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PlayCryptour
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Do this
May 13, 2015, 02:31:54 AM
#32
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 06:40:51 PM
Quote from: PlayCryptour on May 08, 2015, 06:12:09 PM
Anyway we can guarantee safety of our bet?

i.e. if we win the bet, we would be getting the payout.

Absolutely.

Right. I am sorry. Got confused there. Thought you want us to place bet on your behalf.
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 12, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
#31
Bobs Legend https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744639 $30.42 @ 3.4
Amenable https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739851 $18.25 3.55
Thatcherite https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739859 $18.25 6.2 4.34
Windforpower https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739855 $18.25 @ 4.1
Gingili https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744647 $30.42 @ 2.30 1.70
Ice Slice https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739859 $30.42 @3.15
Sharp Rise https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744651 $30.42 @ 1.15 1.01
Multi Grain https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739863 $18.25 @ 4.25
Carrington https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739887 $30.42 @ 2.04
Samsonite https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739867 $12.17 @ 8.41
Champagne Ransom https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739871 $18.25 @ 5.94
Jimbill https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744594 $18.25 @ 4.71
Notnowsam https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744598 $18.25 @ 7.08
Fine View https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739891 $12.17 8.70
Western Reserve https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739891 $30.42 @1.57
Moidore https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744606 $12.17 @ 9.36
Verygoodverygood https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118744610 $30.42 @ 2.54
Regal Parade https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739899 $18.25 @ 3.80
High Secret https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118739903 $18.25 @ 3.50


Bank after today: $3141.14
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 11, 2015, 08:56:11 AM
#30
Do NOT bet on a site that is a normal sportsbook.

All these bets are LAY bets which can only be done on Betfair and betting-exchangers!

If you can't read four sentences in the first post, please don't even follow this topic, you will lose all your money.
gurbar_nakub
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Re: Do this
May 11, 2015, 06:37:51 AM
#29
Quote from: FromRussia on May 11, 2015, 05:37:54 AM
Copacobana Wolv $31.43 @ 2.44
Perennial Muss $18.86 @ 3.55
Magic Circle Donc $18.86 @ 5.50
Easton Angel Muss $31.43 @ 3.00
Titus Bolt Muss Muss $18.86 @ 4.1
Druids Ridge Donc $31.43 @ 2.68
Mustaaqeem Donc $31.43 @ 1.80
Shared Equity Donc $18.86 @ 4.70
King Torus Donc $18.86 @ 6.60
Rio Falls Wolv $31.43 @ 2.76
Genres Wind $31.43 @ 1.86
Quick Defence Wind $31.43 @ 2.68
Shifting Power Wind $31.43 @ 2.08
Voice Control Wind $18.86 @ 4.40

Note: while this is free, bet on your own risk.

There will be maybe more added during the day (in this post).

i see copacobana in directbet, let me try your tips.
first maybe you need to link everything here to bitcoin , so do this prediction , you need to link into bitcoin sportsbook gambling sites.
MrQuickie
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Re: Do this
May 11, 2015, 06:07:50 AM
#28
Is there any bitcoin site for your tips to bet? I want to try following your tips
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 11, 2015, 05:37:54 AM
#27
Copacobana Wolv $31.43 @ 2.44
Perennial Muss $18.86 @ 3.55
Magic Circle Donc $18.86 @ 5.50
Easton Angel Muss $31.43 @ 3.00 2.60
Titus Bolt Muss $18.86 @ 4.1
Druids Ridge Donc $31.43 @ 2.68
Mustaaqeem Donc $31.43 @ 1.80
Shared Equity Donc $18.86 @ 4.70
King Torus Donc $18.86 @ 6.60
Rio Falls Wolv $31.43 @ 2.76
Genres Wind $31.43 @ 1.86 1.58
Quick Defence Wind $31.43 @ 2.68
Shifting Power Wind $31.43 @ 2.08 1.60
Voice Control Wind $18.86 @ 4.40
The Bank Manager Towc $18.86 @ 4.60
Go Dan Go Muss  $31.43 @ 3.45 2.72
Mulaaseq Donc $31.43 @ 3.45
Subcontinent Wind $18.86 @ 3.95 2.72
Clon Brulee Wind $18.86 @ 6.40
Snappy Guest Wind $18.86 @ 4.50
Conflicting Advice Wind $18.86 @ 5.60
Shadow Rock Wind $18.86 @ 5.30
Divine Spear Towc $18.86 @ 3.62 2.93


Note: while this is free, bet on your own risk.


Bank after today: $3041.5
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 10, 2015, 07:23:51 AM
#26
Ryeolliean  Plum $30.00 @ 2.66
Quebec Ludl $30 @ 2.16
Kalimantan Ludl $18 @ 4.70
Lord Grantham Ludl $18 @ 4.60
Howaboutnow Ludl $12 @ 7.80
Charming Lad Plum $30 @ 3.35
Red Anchor Plum $18 @ 7.00
The Cat´s Away Plum $18 @ 3.85
Mr Lando Ludl $30 @ 2.88
Vikekhal Plum $30 @ 2.54
Promanco Ludl $18 @ 4.20
Ballykan Ludl $30 @ 3.00
Ballinure Plum $18 @ 4.10
Rather Be Ludl $30 @ 2.00

Note: while this is free, bet on your own risk.


Bank after today: $3142.5
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 09:58:26 PM
#25
Instead of $1000, I will start with $3000 bank. Everything starts today.

Quote from: Gronthaing on May 08, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
why you posted this on bitcoin forum if the site you saying to be from is not accepting bitcoin as payment method? 1 more thing, you will ask for paid picks for the horse that will lose, i dont think it is worth it. It is too easy to know if the horse really cant win in a race

Why you posted in a topic in which you're not interested in?

This is a bitcoin forum man. Dont forget about that. Any gambling that isnt bitcoin related shouldnt be here

Betfair accepts neteller. Neteller now accepts bitcoin deposits. It doesn't look like it's very complicated. And he's offering picks you can use in any site that accepts lay bets. Betfair may be the most well known. But maybe there are others where you can do the same.

Thank you very much.
bitbaby
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 09:47:49 PM
#24
Quote from: Wendigo on May 08, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Betfair is the biggest and the best betting exchange in the world. No bitcoin sportsbook or exchange can come close. You could use Neteller to transfer your bitcoins into fiat currency on Betfair.

That seems to be the only option for now because I don't think there is any Bitcoin accepting websites that take Lay bets on Horse-Racing but it would be a pain in the ass doing deposits/withdrawals using Neteller for people who don't use it as one would have to rely on a middle-man for the conversion if they don't have a Neteller account. (which I don't)

If someone knows any such website which accept BTC and take Lay-bets on Horse-racing, please post it. I don't bet on Horses too much but would give this a shot as OP seems really confident.
Gronthaing
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
#23
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
why you posted this on bitcoin forum if the site you saying to be from is not accepting bitcoin as payment method? 1 more thing, you will ask for paid picks for the horse that will lose, i dont think it is worth it. It is too easy to know if the horse really cant win in a race

Why you posted in a topic in which you're not interested in?

This is a bitcoin forum man. Dont forget about that. Any gambling that isnt bitcoin related shouldnt be here

Betfair accepts neteller. Neteller now accepts bitcoin deposits. It doesn't look like it's very complicated. And he's offering picks you can use in any site that accepts lay bets. Betfair may be the most well known. But maybe there are others where you can do the same.
xKomatsu
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
#22
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
why you posted this on bitcoin forum if the site you saying to be from is not accepting bitcoin as payment method? 1 more thing, you will ask for paid picks for the horse that will lose, i dont think it is worth it. It is too easy to know if the horse really cant win in a race

Why you posted in a topic in which you're not interested in?

This is a bitcoin forum man. Dont forget about that. Any gambling that isnt bitcoin related shouldnt be here
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 06:40:51 PM
#21
Quote from: PlayCryptour on May 08, 2015, 06:12:09 PM
Anyway we can guarantee safety of our bet?

i.e. if we win the bet, we would be getting the payout.

Absolutely.
PlayCryptour
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 06:12:09 PM
#20
Anyway we can guarantee safety of our bet?

i.e. if we win the bet, we would be getting the payout.
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
#19
Quote from: xKomatsu on May 08, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
why you posted this on bitcoin forum if the site you saying to be from is not accepting bitcoin as payment method? 1 more thing, you will ask for paid picks for the horse that will lose, i dont think it is worth it. It is too easy to know if the horse really cant win in a race

Why you posted in a topic in which you're not interested in?
xKomatsu
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 05:50:32 PM
#18
why you posted this on bitcoin forum if the site you saying to be from is not accepting bitcoin as payment method? 1 more thing, you will ask for paid picks for the horse that will lose, i dont think it is worth it. It is too easy to know if the horse really cant win in a race
deluxeCITY
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 05:36:43 PM
#17
Interesting and something I will keep my eye on, never heard of lay betting but I will follow you for awhile and while doing so I will do some searching online to see what I have been missing out on lol I like different and this is exactly that and you are offering your service for free to begin with so I will see you tomorrow  Smiley
SyGambler
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 05:29:35 PM
#16
I really don't know anything about horse racing
but I think betting on a horse that will not win will be with terrible odds

I will follow for some times
if I find the odds worth the try then I will for sure do some bets

Good luck with your bets
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
#15
Quote from: Wendigo on May 08, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Sorry me to, I would like if there would be a betting exchanger with horse racing that accept bitcoin. Maybe there is...

Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Directbet has horse racing section

http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Horse%20Racing


I quote me man! take a look at that site! Wink

You don't understand. This can not be done on Directbet because we need 'lay', not simple 'bet'.

You need to point out to the newbies here in the thread what exactly the liability is because they would lose all their coins inadvertently with 1 lost event.

Sure, however I will keep this simple until it's free.
Wendigo
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
#14
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Sorry me to, I would like if there would be a betting exchanger with horse racing that accept bitcoin. Maybe there is...

Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Directbet has horse racing section

http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Horse%20Racing


I quote me man! take a look at that site! Wink

You don't understand. This can not be done on Directbet because we need 'lay', not simple 'bet'.

You need to point out to the newbies here in the thread what exactly the liability is because they would lose all their coins inadvertently with 1 lost event.
Wendigo
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
#13
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Betfair is the biggest and the best betting exchange in the world. No bitcoin sportsbook or exchange can come close. You could use Neteller to transfer your bitcoins into fiat currency on Betfair.
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:44:29 PM
#12
Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Sorry me to, I would like if there would be a betting exchanger with horse racing that accept bitcoin. Maybe there is...

Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Directbet has horse racing section

http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Horse%20Racing


I quote me man! take a look at that site! Wink

You don't understand. This can not be done on Directbet because we need 'lay', not simple 'bet'.
cryptworld
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
#11
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Sorry me to, I would like if there would be a betting exchanger with horse racing that accept bitcoin. Maybe there is...

Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Directbet has horse racing section

http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Horse%20Racing


I quote me man! take a look at that site! Wink
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
#10
Quote from: amiryaqot on May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink

Sorry me to, I would like if there would be a betting exchanger with horse racing that accept bitcoin. Maybe there is...
amiryaqot
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
#9
on betfair no option to put bet using bitcoin as payment method Sad that is bad news for me because i love to bet only with bitcoin and their verification system sucks me Shocked i hate these kind of betting site where i have to put my documents for playing Wink
trafficolaa
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:06:55 PM
#8
that is really interesting to bet on lay horse so i am familiar with that betting style, thanks for sharing this method with us and i would to hear from you about your picks on lay horse, hope will get some money by betting there Grin
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 02:04:46 PM
#7
Quote from: twister on May 08, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?

Actually he'll be telling exactly that, that which horse will not win, this is why it is called a lay bet. So the real question should be, what if your prediction is wrong and the horse you chose to lose, ends up winning the race? Do we get our bet money back?

Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?

If the horse loses the race, you WIN, if the horse wins the race, you lost. Please read everything carefully again.

I mentioned how much I have as a bank because I will do this regularly and send tips/keep statistics every day.
Sorry I did understood that but what I meant was:What if I loose my bet, will you refund it?Twister above said the same.
For now, I'm doing this for free. When I start to charge for the tips, if there will be more bad tips then good tips, you will get a full refund.


Quote from: cryptworld on May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
Directbet has horse racing section
Please note that this is not the same as a regular betting. It is a 'lay', not a bet. If Directbet is a sportsbook, not a betting exchanger (with back-lay system), please remove the link. Thanks.
cryptworld
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
#6
Directbet has horse racing section

http://www.directbet.eu/Events.cshtml?EventType=Horse%20Racing
yakuza699
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:55:43 PM
#5
Quote from: FromRussia on May 08, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?

If the horse loses the race, you WIN, if the horse wins the race, you lost. Please read everything carefully again.

I mentioned how much I have as a bank because I will do this regularly and send tips/keep statistics every day.
Sorry I did understood that but what I meant was:What if I loose my bet, will you refund it?Twister above said the same.
twister
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
#4
Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?

Actually he'll be telling exactly that, that which horse will not win, this is why it is called a lay bet. So the real question should be, what if your prediction is wrong and the horse you chose to lose, ends up winning the race? Do we get our bet money back?
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
#3
Quote from: yakuza699 on May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?

If the horse loses the race, you WIN, if the horse wins the race, you lost. Please read everything carefully again.

I mentioned how much I have as a bank because I will do this regularly and send tips/keep statistics every day.
yakuza699
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:48:35 PM
#2
And what if the horse loses the race?Will you refund my bet?If so may you please move some BTC to an escrow?Also why you mentioned how much you have as a bank?
FromRussia
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Re: Do this
May 08, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
#1
Stats

Bank: $3141.14
Started with: $3000 (on 10-May-2015)


Bets won: 39  Bets lost: 16

Day 1: +$142.5
Day 2: - $101.0
Day 3: +$99.64

What is this?

I provide a horse, you make a bet on Betfair that it will not win the race.

What is a lay bet

You basically bet that the horse will NOT win the race.
If the horse does not win, you won the bet and the profit is the stake you entered.
If the horse does win, you lost the bet and lost stake*(odds-1).

Quote from: FromRussia on May 11, 2015, 08:56:11 AM
Do NOT bet on a site that is a normal sportsbook.

All these bets are LAY bets which can only be done on Betfair and betting-exchangers!

If you can't read four sentences in the first post, please don't even follow this topic, you will lose all your money.

Where can this be done

I do this on Betfair. Unfortunately they do not accept Bitcoin directly, however if there is a betting exchanger (not a classic sportsbook!) which accepts btc directly, you can do the same there.

Note:
There's a solution if you want to use Bitcoin to deposit on Betfair.
You can deposit the btc to Neteller and then deposit from Neteller to Betfair.

How to place a lay bet

1st step: https://i.imgur.com/P0blUlj.png
2nd step: https://i.imgur.com/TxIiqRT.png

Now please note this:

Betfair is much more complex then a regular betting service, the amount of money
you enter as a stake is very important, it also depends on the odds and your bankroll.

I will start this as a free service for a time (that is why it's explained 'in short' right now), after which, I will charge a monthly fee for the bets,
and of course, each of you who is interested will get a step by step explanation and a detailed staking plan will be provided. However until then, feel free to ask any questions in this topic.

Where I get the horses for the picks?

In Russia.
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