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Topic: Do you believe in the NWO? What economic effect could it have on bitcoin? (Read 1269 times)

legendary
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If bitcoin could seriously help alleviate those issues, I'd be all for that.

Well, Bitcoin could probably not reduce this kind of slavery directly, but could reduce the power of certain groups and forces behind the slavery, mainly banks and investment funds, and it also could help lower the dependency of many third-world companies on external currencies (like the USD).

Most companies depend on financing from sources that have only profit in mind and don't care about ethics (or do so in a "marketable" way, like CSR). Many of the employees - even higher-ranked ones - of these investment companies don't have bad intentions but are caught in the system themselves - they must deliver (profitable) results

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies can deliver a less elitist and more decentralized way of investing. That's possible in the banking system too (there are, in fact, "ethical banks" where customers invest because they know ethics are respected, and even banks with P2P lending) but they are, until now, niche players. And crowdfunding is potentially  easier with cryptos than via fiat-based centralized middlemen like Kickstarter, above all, in third-world countries.

On the other hand, a future "stable" Bitcoin could replace the USD and other currencies viewed as "stable" as the main token for accountability in third-world-countries' companies.
sr. member
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It is not about believing, it is very obvious that an effort is made to create institutions that are above the countries and that are able to even take over the decision process made in the countries the European Union is a clear example of this.
legendary
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I don't think it's as easy as that, although banned user but could have done a lot already, during the bitcoin still many loyal users of course the price will never drop significantly.

As long as the media continues to attack Trump, I will have to think Trump hasn't sold out and is still trying to make the world a better place for everyone.

The media also attacked Obama early in his 1st term, back when Obama tried to pass real reform over financial/banking/credit card industries.

I tend to believe Trump is good for bitcoin and crypto, but we will have to see as Trump has never said anything about bitcoin that I know of.
full member
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Trump is from the NWO, he will ban bitcoin soon or later guys. Bitcoin price will go down huge. Be carefull, start to sell everthing
I don't think it's as easy as that, although banned user but could have done a lot already, during the bitcoin still many loyal users of course the price will never drop significantly.
legendary
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Looks like globalists(nwo) might get their russia vs america war, if they succeed at goading Trump into attacking Assad further.

There could be a significant amount of regime change in Trump's administration with McMaster shuffling the deck of people in power.

McMaster is pushing hard for american soldiers on the ground in Syria to topple Assad.

Things are not looking good.
Pab
legendary
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There is always some NWO,it is enough to look history,before WW1 was NWO,after was new one.After WW2 was next one,together with iron courtine fail there was confusion,what to do.Now we domination of global corporations but that is also going to change.Bitcoin what is bitcoin bitcoin is nothing
hero member
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Yes it seems so, "new world order" will certainly strive to unite the world into 1 currency so that someday they could control the finances and make the other party's chaotic.

I think is very imposible all the world use one curency
you see dollar can't to one curency, all country not use USdollar, if open one curency must create new curency, example in europa create new curency with name euro and all europa country use euro curency, except england still use poundsterling, swiss still use franc swiss and more
hero member
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First of all, i would like to say that NWO probably wants to go for one, digital currency worldwide.
Why is that? Because it is highly possible that the makers of NWO want to make people traceable and "transparent" at any moment, so the i assume they would want us to have the chip under the skin, which would connect with our personal wallet and the shop "bank" account.

No cash, and only one traceable digital currency means the authorities may know when you bought a product,were you bought it and for how much.
full member
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Yes it seems so, "new world order" will certainly strive to unite the world into 1 currency so that someday they could control the finances and make the other party's chaotic.
legendary
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We ourselves - at least, the "global middle and upper class" - participate in this "world government" by legitimating exploitation - yes, it can be called "slavery" - of billions of people, and most of "ourselves" are caught in this system. Part of our "work ethics" - above all our ideal of "self-optimization" - is contributing to it. One enjoyable example of writings about that phenomenon is Byung-chul Han's Fatigue Society.

But Bitcoin is, in my opinion, a tool that could change part of this system. It's only a tool, though, and only in one particular domain - money, so we shouldn't overestimate it.

I feel guilty when I think about the clothes I'm wearing being made in sweatshops, the bottled water I'm drinking being produced by coca cola who is known to resort to assassinations to prevent workers in foreign countries from unionizing and the fact that a lot of the electronics I use were manufactured in china, possibly with slave or child labor. Pet food comes from asia where slave labor is used on ships, sea salt comes from slave labor in south korea. Palm oil, which is used in many supermarket products comes from mass deforestation in indonesia. Almost every product people consume in the west has some terrible exploitive history behind it.

If bitcoin could seriously help alleviate those issues, I'd be all for that.
legendary
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Sometimes, I wonder if a one world government might be like north korea where no one realizes they're oppressed, because the entire world is one gigantic slave labor camp.

If everything people saw and heard under a one world government said slavery was normal & they had nothing else to compare it to, it might be easy to believe.

I think there is some truth on it, only that I don't believe we really have a centralized world government with a pure "top-down" hierarchy like most NWO theorists believe it.

We ourselves - at least, the "global middle and upper class" - participate in this "world government" by legitimating exploitation - yes, it can be called "slavery" - of billions of people, and most of "ourselves" are caught in this system. Part of our "work ethics" - above all our ideal of "self-optimization" - is contributing to it. One enjoyable example of writings about that phenomenon is Byung-chul Han's Fatigue Society.

But Bitcoin is, in my opinion, a tool that could change part of this system. It's only a tool, though, and only in one particular domain - money, so we shouldn't overestimate it.
full member
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I do not think that they somehow bet on bitcoin. They can influence banks and war. They are interested in managing people, cleaning up unnecessary ones and those who are hindering their pilpms. In any case, you can expect anything from them, they do not tell anyone about their plans.
full member
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Yeah right I believe the NWO exists, certainly many groups that want to realize the change the world, they will do everything to achieve a goal. We must be alert to them, they will do war, trickery and intervention.
staff
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Since we agree that the banking system (Morgan's , Rockefeller, Rothchild's and others) is behind the New world order idea and that they control every central bank in the world except the one in Cuba, North Korea, Iran ,we should also agree that they won't simply let "decentralization" take place and they will fight the bitcoin community and the economic effect will remain unknown (depends how power the community is). I don't think the elite created bitcoin though. If It was closed source, maybe but since everything is on public ledger and code is open source, I highly doubt it.
legendary
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I don't think the global elites would profit from something like a "one world government". That would be too transparent.

North korean defectors to south korea or china are essentially slaves, but they don't realize they're slaves.

To them their lifestyle is normal. Everything they see and hear tells them the entire world is like north korea.

It isn't until after they see other people in other countries having freedom, living different lives, that they realize they were oppressed.

Sometimes, I wonder if a one world government might be like north korea where no one realizes they're oppressed, because the entire world is one gigantic slave labor camp.

If everything people saw and heard under a one world government said slavery was normal & they had nothing else to compare it to, it might be easy to believe.
legendary
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I don't think the global elites would profit from something like a "one world government". That would be too transparent. They're far better trying to push their agenda from the shadows, organizing their elitist conferences to coordinate efforts to profit more, etc.

I don't believe in a "one and only" elite, though. I think there are many different groups with different interests (e.g. industrial elite and banking elite) that conspire sometimes to maximize profits.

As to the influence on Bitcoin, I don't believe the theory that Bitcoin was launched from the elites. There was already much prior work and so if it wasn't "Satoshi" it would have been another hacker who invented BTC. And as Bitcoin paved the way for Monero and other privacy-oriented currencies, I don't think also that BTC was launched to tighten surveillance on monetary transfers. So I don't think there are "economic effects" from "NWO" to Bitcoin.
copper member
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Nice article posted in OP. I believe in the NWO. I guess we can say for exemple The Great Europe was a step to their plan.I am not sure what could be the economic effect on bitcoin. We can think on 2 cases.
Who know if Bitcoin is not a step in their agenda ? Did you know in 1996 the NSA(or CIA) was already talking about a cryptocurrency and how to implement it. So if it is something on their plan, It would mean that if It's success Bitcoin will somedays become official, recognized and used as a major currency. Remember the number of Bitcoin is limited Grin
In another case, as we know, one of the goal for the NWO is a total control over the population. And Bitcoin can be a real threat to them, so we can imagine them trying to destroy the reputation of bitcoin using any way they have, medias, press, laws, whatever. Something that will result in a zero value of Bitcoin or something useless if we won't be able to use it
member
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Now there is a lot of false information and if you believe everything, then you can just go crazy. One must always have one's own point of view and compose one picture from several sources of information. World governments have always existed and will continue to exist. Ordinary mortals do not even have the honor to talk with them. Well, what can the forecasts be ... it will be hard for everyone, but we should avoid war, because the war will destroy even those who created it.
hero member
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The shadow government existed long before the established states existed. The one who made a move to create an established society are the shadow government, they looked like heroes working for freedom and democracy but in fact they want to create a free society that they can control. As of this moment when the government and society are established they gain more power and influence over the state as well as in all sectors of society. They hate war since war will destroy their plan of world domination, the kind of war they are good is war on resources such as food and money.
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The New World Order is all about control. Man's insatiable desire to control others beyond their geographical boundaries. Bitcoin is all about decentralisation, equal power and rights to all stakeholders. My concern is that sooner than later, the NWO proponents will find a way to decentralize bitcoin and all related technologies.

If you ask me the reason for them doing this, it boils down to CONTROL
legendary
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Source: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hard-fork.asp

I'm sure many would disagree with the idea everyone will drop core and quickly switch to BU if a hard fork occurs.

That sites like investopedia spread this type of misinformation seems to indicate bias against core/favortism being shown for BU.

Banks & corporations own almost all media and info websites. They probably own investopedia, which could mean they support BU.
hero member
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Us little people would have a hard time confirming these. It helps that there are leaks every now and then but with the culture of fake news these days, it's hard to distinguish which we should believe or not.

With regard to media though, I would still prefer having multiple private news agencies than only have one that is controlled by the state. At least there's a chance that they'd have conflicting interest in some areas that'd tell on each other.
legendary
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The piece below was written in response to the late David Rockefeller's passing & re-posted on anonymous news.

It goes into detail about the "shadow government" of globalist bankers who invest a considerable amount of time and money into influencing world events to suit their own agenda.

Its a good read, I recommend it.   Cool

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David Rockefeller’s Chilling 1991 Speech At A Bilderberg Meeting

With the passing of David Rockefeller, I started to reflect on his views of the world. Time and time again he pushed for a New World Order and a one world government, which would allow the elite and world bankers to hold complete control over the global population. This got me thinking: Do people even understand the gravity of the situation at hand, or what a one world government would mean?

WHAT THE NEW WORLD ORDER WOULD LOOK LIKE

Throughout history, numerous politicians and members of the elite have spoken out about their support for a one world government or a New World Order, and the shadow government that’s pushing for it, but what do all of these terms mean?

The New World Order is the supposed goal of a handful of global elitists who are pushing for a one world government and a heightened national security state. This group, often referred to as the cabal, has been using foreign threats to heighten security, strip us of our rights, and invade other countries. The entire world is practically covered with U.S. military bases, with the exception of Russia and a few other countries.

Those pushing for the New World Order are the same members of the elite class who control the U.S. government, otherwise referred to as the “shadow government.” Numerous politicians have publicly discussed the people who secretly control the U.S. political system, creating laws and bending them.

John F. Hylan, former Mayor of New York City, explained:

The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation . . . The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties . . . [and] control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection. (source)(source)

Senator Daniel K. Inouye, a high ranking Asian-American politician, has also stated: “There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” (source)

Canadian economist Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, who is the University of Ottawa’s Emeritus Professor of Economics, also gave a great speech at the International Conference on the New World Order. You can check that out and read more about it here. Who is this group of elites? Well, Dr. Chossudovsky believes it originates with those who control the U.S., Israel, and other allies, but who is controlling these countries and this massive global agenda?

The shadow government includes billionaire families like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, members of the financial elite like George Soros, and large corporations and big banks. The following video from THRIVE Movement, a documentary created by the heir to Proctor & Gamble, Foster Gamble, perfectly explains how this system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXyJ_3-h-GU

The shadow government can manipulate, or in some cases, create legislation through either close ties to politicians or even organizations like the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC).

ALEC is a conservative group comprised of state legislators and corporate leaders that allows corporations to help write, or in some cases, just hand over legislation that the “official lawmakers” can then take credit for and formally propose. ALEC has been responsible for numerous immoral bills including those that aim to lower minimum wage, suppress voter rights, pro-gun laws, ag-gag (animal cruelty) bills, and more.

Political satirist John Oliver explains this in detail below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMgfBZrrZ8

It’s clear that corporations have a strong hold on government regulations; why else would chemicals be put in our food and the environment? Even the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has strong ties to oil companies, despite the fact that they’re supposedly the government agency that protects the environment (learn more here). Some have even speculated that the Trans-Pacific Partnership was designed to enable a one world economy.

Other countries are publicly recognizing the role the elite plays in the U.S. government. For example, after Bill Clinton accused Poland and Hungary of turning into a “Putin-like” and “authoritarian dictatorship” last year, their governments saw right through it.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

He went on to say that “the mouth is Clinton’s but the voice is of George Soros.”

In order to successfully create a New World Order, some of the tactics this group uses are false flag terrorism and the fear of global threats, which enable them to increase security measures on domestic populations (like Bill C-51) and thereby justify the invasion of other countries (like Iraq and 9/11, for example). You can read more about that in our CE article here.

DAVID ROCKEFELLER’S 1991 SPEECH AT A BILDERBERG GROUP MEETING

Although David Rockefeller just died, it’s inevitable that his family legacy will live on, quite possibly through the implementation of a one world government. As an elitest and a globalist, David was always a strong advocate of a one world government and was proud to support the New World Order.

The transcript from a 1991 Bilderberg group meeting in Baden, Germany, was released, proving how deluded Rockefeller’s views truly were. Bill Clinton also attended this meeting, I’m sure along with many other members of the elite class. Rockefeller stated:

We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march toward a world government. . . . The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries. (source)

This quote is extremely revealing, as it proves that not only has he been striving to create a one world government since well before 1991, but mainstream media (MSM) news outlets were aware of it and chose not to disclose this information to the public. It’s disturbing that MSM turned a blind eye to this; however, it’s not really surprising given the fact that the elite people attending these types of meetings are the very people who fund and control these corporations.

MSM exercises extreme control over the masses, expertly keeping the general population ignorant and oblivious to the events going on all over the world. If you live in the U.S., you probably have no idea what’s going on with Syria or Russia, because the elite loves to keep you in the dark and feed you propaganda and misinformation (you can read more about that in our CE article here).

Despite his wrongdoings, Rockefeller was a proud member of the elite, and he voiced this pride on numerous occasions.

In 1994, Rockefeller was quoted at a U.N. dinner as saying, “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

Could this crisis have been 9/11, an orchestrated and planned demolition by the elite? Or perhaps he’s referring to the current events in Syria? Either way, it’s no secret that the elite use false flag terrorism to manipulate the masses.

David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs: “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

FINAL THOUGHTS

It’s clear that the elite are pushing for a one world government, as it serves their best interests. They would gain further control of the population and make more money in the process. However, the elite has tried to spin this like it would be a good idea for the global society, which is far from reality.

Thankfully, there are other governments that see through their lies, highlighting the corruption that takes place within the U.S. government. The danger doesn’t lie within the idea of a one world government, but rather with the people who would control it.

CE strongly advocates for oneness and breaking down separatism and division, but that is not what this type of New World Order is about. The elite have been working against our best interests for a long time, which David Rockefeller plainly admitted in his 1991 Bilderberg speech.

The type of one world government that Rockefeller proposed would allow the elite to strengthen their leash on the general population and expand their reach. So far, they’ve proven that their goals are to strip us of our money and our rights, poison us through our food and the environment, and brainwash us using MSM and entertainment. Why would we want these people controlling the entire world?

It’s important to reflect on what role you, as a citizen, play in all of this. Are you supporting the organizations that the elite govern? Are you participating in and falling victim to the very systems that keep perpetuating their control over the system? While it may be difficult to admit, this is at least in part a reflection of you, because you are part of the collective; however, the good news is that you can be part of the solution. You vote with your voice and your dollar every single day — make it count!

http://www.anonews.co/david-rockefeller-1991/
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