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Simulated reality is not entirely fair match, because a program can always be manipulated through code then even if it has provably fair system. How would we detect if some AI's were bugged or just program to lose the match. I prefer real matches, the odds are not that big anyways. Atleast i know in real games my money is safe from exploitation.

I don't understand how they could manipulate the match if the system is provably fair? Huh

Could you explain what you mean?
If they write the hash of the winner and the score of the virtual match on a blockchain or somewhere on their website before opening bets, how they could scam bettors?

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Quote from: Rabi3 on January 15, 2021, 04:53:09 PM

i have never placed bets on them and i don't think i would, it's just pure luck, i don't think i can trust such thing, i think it's similar to any casino game, and i have a bad experience with casinos, i am not lucky at all, when it comes to luck, i am outta there.

They claim that they are working on previous data but I agree that SRL events are really random and stranger things happen as compared to normal events. I rather prefer to bet on real NBA as compared to SRL NBA or basketball. By the way talking about NBA there have been some really rough games and results are so mixed this year that it is hard to predict the winner and almost all the games go till the last quarter where suddenly any team can win.

Is there anyone who can calculate how much is the edge on SRL events because frankly speaking they look more like casino but the house edge from what I have seen looks quite big.

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i have never placed bets on them and i don't think i would, it's just pure luck, i don't think i can trust such thing, i think it's similar to any casino game, and i have a bad experience with casinos, i am not lucky at all, when it comes to luck, i am outta there.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 06, 2021, 07:09:44 AM

Don't get overkill by these SRL games, you're chances to win against computer programs is very slim.

If we are into these games, don't make things to be serious but rather consider this just for fun. It probably the results are already been calculated and manipulated, you can't make yourself confident about your bet as it was possible the computer system catch you and get your money.

I really don't trust SRL events but rather to put them into real games.

Has nobody been able to defeat the computer program before? I assumed if you have the talents/skills you will be able to defeat it. By the way, that will likely involve alot of experience or learning of how the program works in order to come up with strategies to defeat it.

Interesting thought, you're right I think good machine learning programs could maybe defeat them, if there isn't a part of randomness in the process.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 06, 2021, 07:09:44 AM

Don't get overkill by these SRL games, you're chances to win against computer programs is very slim.

If we are into these games, don't make things to be serious but rather consider this just for fun. It probably the results are already been calculated and manipulated, you can't make yourself confident about your bet as it was possible the computer system catch you and get your money.

I really don't trust SRL events but rather to put them into real games.

Has nobody been able to defeat the computer program before? I assumed if you have the talents/skills you will be able to defeat it. By the way, that will likely involve alot of experience or learning of how the program works in order to come up with strategies to defeat it.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 10, 2021, 07:54:35 AM

SRL was introduced during the covd19 from my little knowledge and it's similar to that of virtual soccer with attractive odds, I won few time placing a bet on SRL it's very unpredictable so my favorite bet option was over goals and BTS option if you bet based on the odd and favorite team you are likely going to lose bets. SRL is pure luck

Indeed and there is no stream or anything which you can watch so it does not make sense to bet on these games and you are right during the shutdown covid-19 times last year in March- April these were introduced to make gamblers bet onto something. Only UFC was available to bet during those times so it was nice to see simulated reality based events but then these never lived up to the hype and expectations.

I never made too many bets on these games apart from adding a few of these into my parlay slips to bulk up the odds and my experience hasn't been too good with these events and I would rather suggest avoiding these events since now all the real sports are back.

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I'd just stick to real matches, nothing compares to real matches specially if you also enjoy watching the matches that you placed bet on.

As much as i think, getting into real match for bet seem far better than to come over to a game be control by AI's; were the winning chances are very slim.

And also it looks like were Getting back to traditional Online Gambling where all the games are operated and runs by AI's and this is not a proper way to deal in gambling.

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The genuity of sport games made me be an addict to soccer games but this SRL events game doesn't make me feel they should be trusted like the sport-games.

Meaning have you tried betting in SRL ? I wanna experience this also but just for a common interest and have an experience , But the real game will still my Game to bet permanently like American Football and Basketball and also Boxing.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

I used to bet on such events when lockdown was implemented and there were no sports apart from some table tennis games and some e-soccer leagues which both were terrible so I used to bet on these events on cricket and tennis SRL but frankly speaking these events have no resemblance to original events and anything can happen like Djokovic might be defeated by number 100 ranked player in SRL and there is nothing you can do.

I used to believe that there are certain players who do well against specific players but these SRL does not take into account those things it seems, similarly players who had a terrible IPL are making tons of runs in these SRL matches so no similarity and it feels like a big house edge based casino to bet on these matches.

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Quote from: Igebotz on January 10, 2021, 07:54:35 AM

SRL was introduced during the covd19 from my little knowledge and it's similar to that of virtual soccer with attractive odds, I won few time placing a bet on SRL it's very unpredictable so my favorite bet option was over goals and BTS option if you bet based on the odd and favorite team you are likely going to lose bets. SRL is pure luck

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I'd just stick to real matches, nothing compares to real matches specially if you also enjoy watching the matches that you placed bet on.

As much as i think, getting into real match for bet seem far better than to come over to a game be control by AI's; were the winning chances are very slim. The genuity of sport games made me be an addict to soccer games but this SRL events game doesn't make me feel they should be trusted like the sport-games.

It might be for sure fair since robots won't cheat ofc until and unless programmed to do so but I do think you won't like the idea, the craze of a real football game is something that is unmatched with AI.

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SRL was introduced during the covd19 from my little knowledge and it's similar to that of virtual soccer with attractive odds, I won few time placing a bet on SRL it's very unpredictable so my favorite bet option was over goals and BTS option if you bet based on the odd and favorite team you are likely going to lose bets. SRL is pure luck

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Quote from: XZERO1 on January 10, 2021, 06:40:21 AM

I'd just stick to real matches, nothing compares to real matches specially if you also enjoy watching the matches that you placed bet on.

As much as i think, getting into real match for bet seem far better than to come over to a game be control by AI's; were the winning chances are very slim. The genuity of sport games made me be an addict to soccer games but this SRL events game doesn't make me feel they should be trusted like the sport-games.

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I'd just stick to real matches, nothing compares to real matches specially if you also enjoy watching the matches that you placed bet on.

Also if you are placing bets on simulated reality matches you have to fully trust the platform to not change the results in a way that is most profitable for them, while in the real matches you can juts trust the match results not being tampered with by anyone at least 99% of the time in almost all sports.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 01, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

This is kinda trippy to bet on tbh. There's no guarantee that the simulated game is 100% not rigged on the favor of the lesser-volume bet. You won't know how they are coming up with such moves on the players, the teams, and all of the aspects involved in a game. Personally I think SRL should only exist as a form of entertainment and not something that could be bet on. Think of it as the 'alternate universe' of your favorite sports and your favorite teams, wherein the underdogs become the favorites and vice-versa.

LOL I agree with you. But they could use the blockchain/crypto technology to become "provably fair". They just need to write the hash of the winner and the score of the virtual match somewhere on their website or on the blockchain before opening bets on it.

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Don't get overkill by these SRL games, you're chances to win against computer programs is very slim.

If we are into these games, don't make things to be serious but rather consider this just for fun. It probably the results are already been calculated and manipulated, you can't make yourself confident about your bet as it was possible the computer system catch you and get your money.

I really don't trust SRL events but rather to put them into real games.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

If this is for Fun ? of course i would take my chances and enjoy the process because this is unique and looks like enjoyable .

But for being a gambling ? i know that this wont be beneficial for me to Win or Fight against the computer so I would pass in this matter.

and besides this wasn't available in my country yet , so Let us see if what would be the future of SRL in gambling.

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What could be said about a game that's programmed to game esteem gamblers in the platform, though this is the very first time i have see a game like this. Personally what i do consider before making move to game in any gambling platform is the fairness of the game before my conviction to join, but this game isn't such and won't whatsoever join the game soon till a conviction.

But not everything is provably fair. Okay, there are games like dice and crash or even a provably fair lottery, but how about the real sports events? When you bet on a certain team winning in a match, you'll be able to see the outcome for yourself, but there's no proof that the teams did not agree how they would play and who would win in advance, right? The chance of them entering such an arrangement is low, but nothing can prove that the game was fair. And yet people bet on such events without hesitation.

I also want to comment on the SRL vs Fantasy matter. A simulated game is not played by humans. It's a program written by humans, but then the match is played out automatically (I think it's more or less accurate to say that the bots play it out). Fantasy games, on the other hand, are played out by real humans on their devices AFAIK.

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Quote from: Ucy on January 04, 2021, 03:23:21 AM

Just hearing that for the first time.
Who or what plays the simulated matches/games, Humans, AI or both? Or does everything depend entirely on AI? If it does, I guess I will need to properly understand how the AI make decisions and work in general before placing bet.

humans play the game but they are predetermined becasue they are programming games. When humans play these games they are very low on determining their luck to win the game. Sometimes few months ago i do engaged in the game but wasn't successful in the game and i quitted the games immediately.

Guess it's not like typical soccer/football computer games that do not play properly on their own unless skilled human players play them properly?
So, a "predetermined" simulated game would still play on its own without human player actively involved/playing? If this is the case, i may be correct to say that AI is involved in the game but human player is incharge? The AI acts as an assistant?

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Quote from: bitbollo on January 04, 2021, 10:53:25 AM

it's kind of betting that I am not able to understand. it's sound me more like "toss a coin" or anything that is unpredictable.
I have placed a couple of winning bets on stake.com just for very low odds but each time I play just for wasting some money and not for any real chance of winning or have a real advantage against the bookmaker.

if a toss coin is done on the internet this makes it not far from srl , results arent 100 percent unpredictable .

but a toss coin can also be done offline but not srl betting

nothing harmed on playing small amounts , this gives you courage to try and make your self more familiarize in the game and if you think you are ready and you can win you can now bet in bigger size .

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The machine games are very dangerous, unpredictable sometimes there is not even 3 goal in 10 SRL matches. I usually like to bet over or under 2.5 goals but get busted on a series of losses due to blindly following the odds of SRL events. I don't think, the odds are in our favor because the results are usually predetermined. It is harder to make a prediction on such algorithmic games.

I wouldn't say that it is unfair but I think these games are the most fair unless an internal intervention is done to predetermine games, I do not think that it will be the case because constant losses from players will be unattractive for them which causes them to losses their customer. Wouldn't it be better that the match is harder to predict because that means you are getting entertained. Also, predetermined games are not something new, I remember back then, SRL Horse race games have predetermined outcome changed every week.

I have never bet on SRL Horse race games but the harder predictions make it an unprofitable version of electronic gaming. I don't agree with the connection part of your opinion since there is no need to lose for having fun. The general rule is to stop gambling when fun stops, if the result is manipulated by smart algorithms there is no reason to keep losing. For example, the home team can score 3 goals between the extra time of the first half and the first minute of the second half.

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Quote from: Mahanton on January 03, 2021, 05:03:59 PM

About SRL events then i dont expect that it is possible but in fairness side then that would really be a main issue for most people.They cant tell if the result were rigged or altered.

That would probably an issue in this type of game.
Simulated Reality League (SRL), From the word itself, we can't assure if the result is part of the program or that could be easy to alter once the owner of the site sees that he will lose more than to win.

I don't say also that no one will win but that something it leaves in the minds of every gambler the risk when they put a bet on this. It is really to need some more proof and exposure to gain trust.

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it's kind of betting that I am not able to understand. it's sound me more like "toss a coin" or anything that is unpredictable.
I have placed a couple of winning bets on stake.com just for very low odds but each time I play just for wasting some money and not for any real chance of winning or have a real advantage against the bookmaker.

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If we can see that it is provably fair and our chances to win is like 50/50 then it is worth a try but maybe using a small bet first to check how it works and to check if what is our chances of hitting a winning streak to this kind of game.

But in my case, I prefer betting to real people playing out in the field as the chances to sabotage the outcome of the game is very less compare to what you shared here. But in the other hand, I am willing to try it and see for myself if it is created fairly and we have a fair chance in winning.

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Just hearing that for the first time.
Who or what plays the simulated matches/games, Humans, AI or both? Or does everything depend entirely on AI? If it does, I guess I will need to properly understand how the AI make decisions and work in general before placing bet.

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Quote from: seleme on January 03, 2021, 05:31:25 PM

The machine games are very dangerous, unpredictable sometimes there is not even 3 goal in 10 SRL matches. I usually like to bet over or under 2.5 goals but get busted on a series of losses due to blindly following the odds of SRL events. I don't think, the odds are in our favor because the results are usually predetermined. It is harder to make a prediction on such algorithmic games.

I wouldn't say that it is unfair but I think these games are the most fair unless an internal intervention is done to predetermine games, I do not think that it will be the case because constant losses from players will be unattractive for them which causes them to losses their customer. Wouldn't it be better that the match is harder to predict because that means you are getting entertained. Also, predetermined games are not something new, I remember back then, SRL Horse race games have predetermined outcome changed every week.

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simulated reality , that sounds like a fantasy game like fantasy football ?? but still i dont know the exact definition of both but i guess that it wasnt a real event so im thinking that they arent far from those provably fair casino games we had but the only advantage of them as you said is their odds which is far more better or attractive ,

why not ? if your a fan of better odds you may want to check these games as well and it also enables you to explore and know more games that arent been there before .

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The machine games are very dangerous, unpredictable sometimes there is not even 3 goal in 10 SRL matches. I usually like to bet over or under 2.5 goals but get busted on a series of losses due to blindly following the odds of SRL events. I don't think, the odds are in our favor because the results are usually predetermined. It is harder to make a prediction on such algorithmic games. Sometimes, the final result can be changed by the AI if the betting amount is more than average. It is better to avoid rather than chasing losses, IMHO.

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Quite interesting to me but I keep myself being practical when it comes to gambling and should choose those games that are familiar to me.
I was been following sports particularly basketball, local and national matches. I was familiar with each team that basically gives me some hints on which team I should have to put on and big chances to win either.
That obviously wanted to win and that seems the best thing to do than have to try different.

Betting with unfamiliar game adds risk in activity which is already risky like gambling but if for just trying luck and seeing how the game or betting happen it can be try provided we will not spend too much money. This might be a new type of betting since Real sports may not be a lot now due to Pandemic that is still happening, it can be the new betting in exchange with some sport in the mean time like what is happening in the virtual or mobile games tournament now.

We would need to adopt the changes or this new normal but we know that physical appearances now did really happen inspite of this current condition which signifies that
we would really be going back to normal.

About SRL events then i dont expect that it is possible but in fairness side then that would really be a main issue for most people.They cant tell if the result were rigged or altered.

I didnt even able to try it once and also im not even aware this one do really exist.Majority of people been posting here isnt aware on this one.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on January 03, 2021, 07:46:50 AM

Quite interesting to me but I keep myself being practical when it comes to gambling and should choose those games that are familiar to me.
I was been following sports particularly basketball, local and national matches. I was familiar with each team that basically gives me some hints on which team I should have to put on and big chances to win either.
That obviously wanted to win and that seems the best thing to do than have to try different.

Betting with unfamiliar game adds risk in activity which is already risky like gambling but if for just trying luck and seeing how the game or betting happen it can be try provided we will not spend too much money. This might be a new type of betting since Real sports may not be a lot now due to Pandemic that is still happening, it can be the new betting in exchange with some sport in the mean time like what is happening in the virtual or mobile games tournament now.

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What could be said about a game that's programmed to game esteem gamblers in the platform, though this is the very first time i have see a game like this. Personally what i do consider before making move to game in any gambling platform is the fairness of the game before my conviction to join, but this game isn't such and won't whatsoever join the game soon till a conviction.

This can be said to SRL sites in the past, they thought putting the costumers in a false sense of control will stop their cover from being blown, too bad they didn't checked the fact that people get more and more intelligent.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 03, 2021, 07:09:10 AM

I think the odds are calculated properly here, based on the real chances of the teams to win the game. There's probably a bet margin here, of course, but so it is with any other bet on sports. I won this bet, by the way, so for now I'm pretty happy with it and will probably try betting on SRL again:

Congratulations for your winning. It seems the luck is on your side. It is interesting. I guess you can try to bet on SRL, and I hope you can win more. But do not forget that you should always limit your money to bet, and do not use too big amount if you do not want to see your loss because the bitcoin price now is too expensive to just place the bet.

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What could be said about a game that's programmed to game esteem gamblers in the platform, though this is the very first time i have see a game like this. Personally what i do consider before making move to game in any gambling platform is the fairness of the game before my conviction to join, but this game isn't such and won't whatsoever join the game soon till a conviction.

I am not a fan of this as well , and I don't know how to play it, so I am just reading some insights in here, but yes we should really consider the fairness of the game, since I think this game is new to everyone we should be careful when trying to bet, just bet a small amount so you can be familiarize on it, and then when you think that the fairness of this is best then I think you should go forward.

Quote from: Yamifoud on January 03, 2021, 07:46:50 AM

Quite interesting to me but I keep myself being practical when it comes to gambling and should choose those games that are familiar to me.
I was been following sports particularly basketball, local and national matches. I was familiar with each team that basically gives me some hints on which team I should have to put on and big chances to win either.
That obviously wanted to win and that seems the best thing to do than have to try different.

Yes this is very interesting and quite new for us, this is another way to gamble I think by using real time or real case scenarios.

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Quite interesting to me but I keep myself being practical when it comes to gambling and should choose those games that are familiar to me.
I was been following sports particularly basketball, local and national matches. I was familiar with each team that basically gives me some hints on which team I should have to put on and big chances to win either.
That obviously wanted to win and that seems the best thing to do than have to try different.

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Regarding the trust issues, I hear you and also don't really know how trustworthy these matches are. However, with running the simulation live and with betting happening independent of the simulated game (so I bet on Sporsbet.io and it's very different people running the simulated event, so they wouldn't try to make me lose or something), I think it's worth a shot.

Quote from: bitterguy28 on January 02, 2021, 05:49:07 PM

Not in My Plan betting in Somewhere that i am 100% sure of losing , This Betting is Just Like a Program operated gambling in which every details are Designed to Beat the Bettors/Gamblers and even How Lucky you are in the End it will be the Site will Win.

Good that you try betting but i Guess that experience is enough and not to Extend further activities on this.

Odds are Good But how would You Know the accuracy of the Given Odds?

I think the odds are calculated properly here, based on the real chances of the teams to win the game. There's probably a bet margin here, of course, but so it is with any other bet on sports. I won this bet, by the way, so for now I'm pretty happy with it and will probably try betting on SRL again:

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I've seen these kinds of simulated games but didn't get much attractive. I feel comfortable betting on real matches. Actually, I've doubt its fairness, cause such types of simulated games are programmed by a bot. you know, as like as SRL nowadays another popped up simulated game is horse riding, the games are pre-fixed, to predict the outcome is kinda hilarious.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

This is the first time i read about this. Sounds very interesting and could be a new betting market. Last year I started to watch some marble races which are pretty cool. It's not really a simulation but it's the closest you can get to pure randomness because all the marbles are the same and have to roll down the same track, fully automated. The only difference is color.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

Well ,technology really Changing everything , From Real Human in sports Now there is SRL in which i really don't give importance .

World now is getting Weaker and weaker as People have not engaging physically ,Instead everything wanted to be Automatic or Thru internet.

anyway ,what i wanted to Know is SRL are Fair? I mean not a programs that Already Set in what would be the End . but since this is technology ? i doubt the Sincerity .

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Seems interesting enough, but also isn't it possible to "technically" cheat on it by having your own algorithm calculate the chances or something of that sort? Sure, the majority of the people who would bet don't have that kind of capability, but one or two should bound to pop up every few matches no? The fact that it's logical is kind of a plus though since numbers would speak here for itself without any other type of interference most of the time. That is considering, the logic of the simulation itself is also logical.

I'd like to try it out, but maybe after a few more years/decades maybe? I'd rather wait for technology to improve some more for simulations to be actually much more accurate. I wonder if there's research about a simulated match and a real match comparison and the accuracy of it though, that would make SRL events much more realistic to people who are new to it.

Bad ideas when you try betting with simulated reality or SRL match because they can manipulated with result and never give chance for you to win, ever I try when match left five minute and I choose not goal for the match but always have goal. Just simulated and result depend what want by system and we can't prediction with correct answer, maybe make two or three prediction to know which one choose is correct. Better place bet on real match and never trying on simulated or SRL because you will loss chance to get win.

This is almost like betting in Slot machine ,Yeah there's a chance of Winning but Not more than the chances of Losing.

This is a Programmed game ,Yeah it sounds Cool because they are giving Odds but everything is already Set up .

And the Only Need is a Victim .

We are now Loving Live Casino online because of being Fairness this same as that, The Game will happen live ,and this SRL is the Old fashion Onlie casinos.

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Quote from: Wexnident on January 02, 2021, 11:59:28 PM

Seems interesting enough, but also isn't it possible to "technically" cheat on it by having your own algorithm calculate the chances or something of that sort? Sure, the majority of the people who would bet don't have that kind of capability, but one or two should bound to pop up every few matches no? The fact that it's logical is kind of a plus though since numbers would speak here for itself without any other type of interference most of the time. That is considering, the logic of the simulation itself is also logical.

I'd like to try it out, but maybe after a few more years/decades maybe? I'd rather wait for technology to improve some more for simulations to be actually much more accurate. I wonder if there's research about a simulated match and a real match comparison and the accuracy of it though, that would make SRL events much more realistic to people who are new to it.

Bad ideas when you try betting with simulated reality or SRL match because they can manipulated with result and never give chance for you to win, ever I try when match left five minute and I choose not goal for the match but always have goal. Just simulated and result depend what want by system and we can't prediction with correct answer, maybe make two or three prediction to know which one choose is correct. Better place bet on real match and never trying on simulated or SRL because you will loss chance to get win.

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Seems interesting enough, but also isn't it possible to "technically" cheat on it by having your own algorithm calculate the chances or something of that sort? Sure, the majority of the people who would bet don't have that kind of capability, but one or two should bound to pop up every few matches no? The fact that it's logical is kind of a plus though since numbers would speak here for itself without any other type of interference most of the time. That is considering, the logic of the simulation itself is also logical.

I'd like to try it out, but maybe after a few more years/decades maybe? I'd rather wait for technology to improve some more for simulations to be actually much more accurate. I wonder if there's research about a simulated match and a real match comparison and the accuracy of it though, that would make SRL events much more realistic to people who are new to it.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on January 01, 2021, 10:41:30 AM

Never placed a bet on something like that and wouldn't recommend to do so Roll Eyes

Ask yourself this question: What can I do to be able to beat this market ? Is there even a chance to beat this market, when a machine calculates the outcome and you don't know how this is done ? And if you (or everyone) knew how it is done, where is the point in a bookie offering such bets ?

I am not a fan of Casinos, but you are better off spending your money there, because you will lose less Wink

Very good answer, I supported on you to this thing Sir, you are definitely have a point in this one.
Although, I played gambling here online but I am not greedy just like the other players did in the different
gambling platform.

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Quote from: tabas on January 02, 2021, 03:11:16 PM

I've never known that there's one that has been existing. And that's why I've never bet on it. I'll still stay with the real matches until I've learned and got used to it.

Quote from: dothebeats on January 01, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

This is kinda trippy to bet on tbh. There's no guarantee that the simulated game is 100% not rigged on the favor of the lesser-volume bet.

It's also what I've thought, they could be rigged and hard to trust in hindsight.

Im having the same doubts and hindrances on making bets or in types like this. It is really hard to trust up even though the platform is known or popular

You cant be sure if those bets will really be not rigged.I'd rather prefer on betting on live games than on this simulated one.Im not really that comfortable with this.

I haven't tested out yet ever in my life or experience here on gambling world.Also, I wont be touching my finger this even if I do know it now.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

Not in My Plan betting in Somewhere that i am 100% sure of losing , This Betting is Just Like a Program operated gambling in which every details are Designed to Beat the Bettors/Gamblers and even How Lucky you are in the End it will be the Site will Win.

Good that you try betting but i Guess that experience is enough and not to Extend further activities on this.

Odds are Good But how would You Know the accuracy of the Given Odds?

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I've never known that there's one that has been existing. And that's why I've never bet on it. I'll still stay with the real matches until I've learned and got used to it.

Quote from: dothebeats on January 01, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

This is kinda trippy to bet on tbh. There's no guarantee that the simulated game is 100% not rigged on the favor of the lesser-volume bet.

It's also what I've thought, they could be rigged and hard to trust in hindsight.

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Well even though most crypto gambling sites have outcomes predicted already I wouldn't bet on such new kind of gambling where there is no safe way to bet yet or rather their reliability and reputation has not been proven, betting on such games won't guarantee you that you are betting a fair game or a game that is not fix or broken when they are favoring someone on the opposite side of the bet. Maybe if they have increased their reputation and proven their fairness that is the time when I will consider betting in this kind of simulated matches.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I didn't even know this was a thing. It would be hard for a casino to not choose the outcome that would benefit them the most. They could use service fees instead of typical gambling book odds in order to remove the temptation to game the system, but who's to say insiders aren't placing bets for a guaranteed profit at the expense of their real users? Even if they had good intentions, I think situations could arise in the future that would tempt them to get easy profits if their system enabled them to do so. It would be hard to encourage users to spend money on a system that could so easily be taken advantage of.

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SRL matches gained some popularity when the most football leagues suspended their championships. gamblers just hadn't any matches to bet. but when the championships resumed the popularity of SRL went down.

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This means the teams winning will be associated with the program along with the data and statistics thats been feed to the system. This is same as going for a random selection of odds in a real match. This is something a new form of access to sports betting, and here it'll succeed only if the reason and detailing is done to conclude the winner as a particular team.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on January 01, 2021, 10:41:30 AM

Never placed a bet on something like that and wouldn't recommend to do so Roll Eyes

Ask yourself this question: What can I do to be able to beat this market ? Is there even a chance to beat this market, when a machine calculates the outcome and you don't know how this is done ? And if you (or everyone) knew how it is done, where is the point in a bookie offering such bets ?

I am not a fan of Casinos, but you are better off spending your money there, because you will lose less Wink

In terms of losing money, I think what really matters is how much a person spends on certain activities rather than what one actually does. So it can be betting on sports, SRL, playing slots or crash. I don't spend much money on gambling, but I'm okay spending a bit and sometimes losing a bit.

For those asking about how this works: Game devs are putting lots of data about the real teams into their program and then run a simulation at a scheduled time (I believe it's even possible to watch them online on a website like this). They offer odds to the bookies, which then allow to bet on the outcomes of such events. Sportsbet.io offers betting on some SRL games, that's where I placed my bet. In terms of it being provably fair, I actually had the same question, but I think they are not (and I'm not sure it's even possible to make them so). Then again, I don't think they are a scam.

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Never bet on this match with simulated reality matches because I think this website procedure and you will not win anymore, many people not see when getting live match and seeing have any match but now see above with simulated reality matches. Your bet is nothing how ever choose favorite club because this running by them and not playing well like real match and we can watch which one team win. I know many people not really when betting because they think is real match.

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I never bet on what you did, so I don't know if that bet is popular now or people search for the other bet or are playing their favourite gambling games. I would not say that game are pure or real matches because I don't know much about them. If you are interested in that game, you can play that game, but you should be careful to play on that game. You need to search for more information about the game, and if that match is not real, you better to leave the game as soon as possible because you will not have a bigger chance to win.

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I have already heard of this and that there are also available odds offered for betting. But I have never spent a minute on getting to know it more. As it is, it does not really attract me. I honestly don't know how to weigh on the available odds and on what bases would I be doing it. I mean, these are simulations. In other words, programmed, right? Is fairness in simulated games guaranteed?

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I used to see these simulated reality games being offered a lot of times when there's less games to bet on but I never give in to them. The way I view these matches is like similar to virtual horse racing the experience isn't the same.

Quote from: Saint-loup on January 01, 2021, 12:21:20 PM

How does it work? Is there a score? Is there some goals?

To make it simple it's like sports betting but with bots on both sides. I'm not sure if you're able to watch but I know you can follow it once the game starts there's a live score you can track.

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This is kinda trippy to bet on tbh. There's no guarantee that the simulated game is 100% not rigged on the favor of the lesser-volume bet. You won't know how they are coming up with such moves on the players, the teams, and all of the aspects involved in a game. Personally I think SRL should only exist as a form of entertainment and not something that could be bet on. Think of it as the 'alternate universe' of your favorite sports and your favorite teams, wherein the underdogs become the favorites and vice-versa.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

Thank you for this thread I didn't know this kind of bets.
How does it work? Is there a score? Is there some goals?
Matches are performed independently from the bookmaker?

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I have seen such bet option earlier but have never tried because I don't know how this works actually? Can you put some light? Nevertheless, placing bet on IPL matches are uncertain most of the times as any team may win; no sure bet is there in fact; then how would I bet on match which outcome even doesn't depend on the team effort? I guess it's very risky to place bet on such matches and I will never consider betting on such matches.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 01, 2021, 08:44:01 AM

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

That's interesting! How the winner of such a game is decided? Is it by the algorithm of the casino or something else? Are they Provably fair?

I would still doubt that these matches a more "pure" than the actual playground but we need to understand how the match winner is decided! Can you suggest a website where I can fetch more info of such games?

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Never placed a bet on something like that and wouldn't recommend to do so Roll Eyes

Ask yourself this question: What can I do to be able to beat this market ? Is there even a chance to beat this market, when a machine calculates the outcome and you don't know how this is done ? And if you (or everyone) knew how it is done, where is the point in a bookie offering such bets ?

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I've known about simulated reality matches for a while now, but they weren't of interest to me until I once noticed that the odds can be more attractive there than on the real match. So I've placed my first SRL bet today just to have a start:

I think such events gained some popularity when the real matches barely occurred, but are they popular nowadays? Have you ever placed a bet on one? Would you consider them more "pure" than the real matches since they account for many factors and then let the program to its thing rather than rely on real people playing in out in the field?

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