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Quote from: popcorn1 on September 02, 2015, 03:11:25 PM

BLAH BLAH BLAH..

the word SATAN means...The original Hebrew term satan is a noun from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose"

the word DEVIL means...devil' is a translation of the Greek word 'diabolos', meaning a liar, an enemy

www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0602devilandsatan.html this is the good read

A good read..
some of you religious freaks need to look at some history Wink

oh and yes i hate islam its a load of shit like all religions..but islam is the worst of the lot in the 21st century..
christians where just as bad 200 years ago..
but the jews are crafty they get everyone else to fight and sit back and watch..clever really Grin

so you got the CRAFTY JEW the BED SHEET MUSLIMS the HAPPY CLAPPY CHRISTIANS..
and the WEIRD SATAN WORSHIP NUTTER CRANK POTS..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw

enlighten yourself the power of Buddhism

Just remember. Buddhism wasn't around until long after Jesus destroyed the devil by His crucifixion and resurrection. We have freedom to do all kinds of things the ancient peoples before Jesus just couldn't do because they were being oppressed by the devil. Since Jesus we only have man oppressing man.

The Buddha was only using his freedom to think in new ways that people didn't have freedom to do before Jesus. So, it was Jesus Who made it even possible that there could even be a Buddha. The Buddha misses the whole point of salvation by Jesus, even though he might be correct in many other things.

Buddha is for this short life of maybe a hundred years or so. Jesus and the Bible have greatness beyond the Buddha, greatness that extends to Heavenly joy forever.

Just remember. Buddhism wasn't around until long after Jesus destroyed the devil by His crucifixion and

NO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HISTORY Cheesy

so how did jesus do this ...YOU REMEMBER THIS....Buddhism was here 2400 years ago...
Jesus was suppose to have been here 2000 years ago..
So Buddhism is 400 years older than jesus ...so explain your knowledge its all wrong Wink

plus where does it say jesus destroyed the devil with his crucifix in what bible..
that was Dracula .. peter Cushing .. Cheesy

watch if you don.t believe me

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBRe2XMljg

Sorry, I was thinking of Islam.

However, The roots of Christianity go back to the creation. The expression of those roots go back to the time of Abraham. These are before Buddhism.

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I noticed, by his redundant arguments and fanatic-like line of senseless arguments, that BADecker is just playing around.
Grin

If he would really be like that, he wouldn't be here on the web. Instead would be in a cave writing at some papyrus and doing target practice to the next adulterer stoning.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 02, 2015, 05:28:37 PM

Quote from: popcorn1 on September 02, 2015, 03:11:25 PM

BLAH BLAH BLAH..

the word SATAN means...The original Hebrew term satan is a noun from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose"

the word DEVIL means...devil' is a translation of the Greek word 'diabolos', meaning a liar, an enemy

www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0602devilandsatan.html this is the good read

A good read..
some of you religious freaks need to look at some history Wink

oh and yes i hate islam its a load of shit like all religions..but islam is the worst of the lot in the 21st century..
christians where just as bad 200 years ago..
but the jews are crafty they get everyone else to fight and sit back and watch..clever really Grin

so you got the CRAFTY JEW the BED SHEET MUSLIMS the HAPPY CLAPPY CHRISTIANS..
and the WEIRD SATAN WORSHIP NUTTER CRANK POTS..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw

enlighten yourself the power of Buddhism

Just remember. Buddhism wasn't around until long after Jesus destroyed the devil by His crucifixion and resurrection. We have freedom to do all kinds of things the ancient peoples before Jesus just couldn't do because they were being oppressed by the devil. Since Jesus we only have man oppressing man.

The Buddha was only using his freedom to think in new ways that people didn't have freedom to do before Jesus. So, it was Jesus Who made it even possible that there could even be a Buddha. The Buddha misses the whole point of salvation by Jesus, even though he might be correct in many other things.

Buddha is for this short life of maybe a hundred years or so. Jesus and the Bible have greatness beyond the Buddha, greatness that extends to Heavenly joy forever.

Just remember. Buddhism wasn't around until long after Jesus destroyed the devil by His crucifixion and

NO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HISTORY Cheesy

so how did jesus do this ...YOU REMEMBER THIS....Buddhism was here 2400 years ago...
Jesus was suppose to have been here 2000 years ago..
So Buddhism is 400 years older than jesus ...so explain your knowledge its all wrong Wink

plus where does it say jesus destroyed the devil with his crucifix in what bible..
that was Dracula .. peter Cushing .. Cheesy

watch if you don.t believe me

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gBRe2XMljg

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Quote from: popcorn1 on September 02, 2015, 03:11:25 PM

BLAH BLAH BLAH..

the word SATAN means...The original Hebrew term satan is a noun from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose"

the word DEVIL means...devil' is a translation of the Greek word 'diabolos', meaning a liar, an enemy

www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0602devilandsatan.html this is the good read

A good read..
some of you religious freaks need to look at some history Wink

oh and yes i hate islam its a load of shit like all religions..but islam is the worst of the lot in the 21st century..
christians where just as bad 200 years ago..
but the jews are crafty they get everyone else to fight and sit back and watch..clever really Grin

so you got the CRAFTY JEW the BED SHEET MUSLIMS the HAPPY CLAPPY CHRISTIANS..
and the WEIRD SATAN WORSHIP NUTTER CRANK POTS..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw

enlighten yourself the power of Buddhism

Just remember. Buddhism wasn't around until long after Jesus destroyed the devil by His crucifixion and resurrection. We have freedom to do all kinds of things the ancient peoples before Jesus just couldn't do because they were being oppressed by the devil. Since Jesus we only have man oppressing man.

The Buddha was only using his freedom to think in new ways that people didn't have freedom to do before Jesus. So, it was Jesus Who made it even possible that there could even be a Buddha. The Buddha misses the whole point of salvation by Jesus, even though he might be correct in many other things.

Buddha is for this short life of maybe a hundred years or so. Jesus and the Bible have greatness beyond the Buddha, greatness that extends to Heavenly joy forever.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH..

the word SATAN means...The original Hebrew term satan is a noun from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose"

the word DEVIL means...devil' is a translation of the Greek word 'diabolos', meaning a liar, an enemy

www.christadelphians.com/biblebasics/0602devilandsatan.html this is the good read

A good read..
some of you religious freaks need to look at some history Wink

oh and yes i hate islam its a load of shit like all religions..but islam is the worst of the lot in the 21st century..
christians where just as bad 200 years ago..
but the jews are crafty they get everyone else to fight and sit back and watch..clever really Grin

so you got the CRAFTY JEW the BED SHEET MUSLIMS the HAPPY CLAPPY CHRISTIANS..
and the WEIRD SATAN WORSHIP NUTTER CRANK POTS..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw

enlighten yourself the power of Buddhism

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This video was a really interesting watch, about a Muslim man who looked to find out who Jesus was in the Quran and became a Christian because he says the Quran told him to. Changing Tracks: Mario Joseph, Muslim Imam convert

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 11:08:47 PM

So you do think that if somehow we make Muslims believe their religion is peaceful, they will become peaceful?
I hardly believe that... or did I misunderstand what you said?
Religious folks are the "old time" politicians, btw.

Apparently you misunderstood.

What I said was this.

I would like to hear one or several of the Muslims posting simply say. "Yes, I have been lying about the nature of Islam in order to protect Islam and further it's interests, as is allowed by the Koran."

I am indicating such a position is, at least, honest.

Yes, that would be good. I wouldn't make it so blunt as to say "lying." After all, when a person (Muslim) finds out tht all the peace in his religion was a lie, he is going to be completely discombobulated. I would simply like to see some of them humbly admit to how mistaken they were.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 11:08:47 PM

So you do think that if somehow we make Muslims believe their religion is peaceful, they will become peaceful?
I hardly believe that... or did I misunderstand what you said?
Religious folks are the "old time" politicians, btw.

Apparently you misunderstood.

What I said was this.

I would like to hear one or several of the Muslims posting simply say. "Yes, I have been lying about the nature of Islam in order to protect Islam and further it's interests, as is allowed by the Koran."

I am indicating such a position is, at least, honest.

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So you do think that if somehow we make Muslims believe their religion is peaceful, they will become peaceful?
I hardly believe that... or did I misunderstand what you said?
Religious folks are the "old time" politicians, btw.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 07:33:10 PM

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and so on, and so on... can you please cut the Taqqyia? Muhammad himself would resemble more of an....

Not just cutting out the Taqqyia, but stating that one was engaged in it would be worthy of respect.

We have enough liars with our politicians and truly don't need it from religious believers.

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Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

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Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

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Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

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Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

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Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"

and so on, and so on... can you please cut the Taqqyia? Muhammad himself would resemble more of an ISIS leader than anything else.
Besides, the people from Central and South Americas, except for Brazil and Argentina are mostly descendants of natives.

We're no aliens, we are exactly like the rest of the primates, except that we seam to have some sort of intelligence that sometimes made us stupid.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 05:04:19 PM

Quote from: Wapinter on September 01, 2015, 04:56:43 PM

And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches

What does Islam teaches?
Killing people? Harass women? Harass "non-believers"?
The problem is that is actually wrote in the Islamic doctrine. Isn't the "sinner Muslims", it's the doctrine.

Add to the problem, the major one, both Christians and Muslims likes to teach, despite they are but utterly ignorants!
Most of those Indians were killed in "Christian Reeducation Centers", ruled by Methodists and that existed up to early 80's of the XX Century.

Communists and Religious folks sense of happiness: either you're "happy" or you're dead.

No islam do not teach that, those who teach that are sick people who do not understand the word and take advantages on their behalf, beucase they are angry whit the sociaty.

Indians were not only killed, but people of the entire continet even down to chile and argentina there were genocide.

Besides most angels talked in the bible are referals to aliens who came to earth, manipulated a species to give them a jump start.

We are hybrids, half terrestrians half aliens, and our gods are aliens.

There is one supreme creator, and that is the energy that is all around us, we will never see him but we can feel this energy .

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Quote from: Wapinter on September 01, 2015, 04:56:43 PM

And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches

What does Islam teaches?
Killing people? Harass women? Harass "non-believers"?
The problem is that is actually wrote in the Islamic doctrine. Isn't the "sinner Muslims", it's the doctrine.

Add to the problem, the major one, both Christians and Muslims likes to teach, despite they are but utterly ignorants!
Most of those Indians were killed in "Christian Reeducation Centers", ruled by Methodists and that existed up to early 80's of the XX Century.

Communists and Religious folks sense of happiness: either you're "happy" or you're dead.

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jesus aproved this.

Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth.

Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted.

And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches

I certainly don't.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 01, 2015, 08:45:14 AM

Quote from: Sweminer777 on September 01, 2015, 06:33:06 AM

jesus aproved this.

Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth.

Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted.

And don't confuse sinning Muslims with what Islam teaches

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The is no life afterwards. That falls to the afterlife's paradox! If such thing would exist you would go to an extremely crowded place; the sum of all people that already existed, and sharing your space with ancient people that would make you miss your worse neighbor.

Wars and competition happens because some people wants the same thing at the same time, this will unavoidably make the winning part happy and the loosing part sad. They're mutually exclusive (or a paradox), and there's no way to turn this around, not even with your Prozac's paradise.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 04:22:49 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 01, 2015, 03:02:19 PM

He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin...

It's really working out, isn't it? Roll Eyes

When you die from this life, it's afterwards.

Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 04:22:49 PM

And what would be "eternal peace and no sadness"? Wars are made by man, doesn't occur because God or Satan made it, and some events makes some sad and others happy at the very same time.
So that world without sadness would be what? A place where all games will end up in a draw?

Think of the paradoxes that makes yours and everybody's religions pure non-sense.

Add to this: "what is a sin"? How many wars did occur because some masturbates? Yet accordingly to your "unaware of what legitimacy means" religion, it's "a sin"

All sin will be gone. So there will be no more wars, and no more hate, and no more violence, no more lust, etc.

Someone losing a game should not result in sadness. There wouldn't be a feeling of needing to "beat" someone (like being happy at the other person losing), versus just winning or losing and having fun playing.

It's hard to believe people have such a hard time imagining people being happy forever.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 01, 2015, 03:02:19 PM

He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin...

It's really working out, isn't it? Roll Eyes

And what would be "eternal peace and no sadness"? Wars are made by man, doesn't occur because God or Satan made it, and some events makes some sad and others happy at the very same time.
So that world without sadness would be what? A place where all games will end up in a draw?

Think of the paradoxes that makes yours and everybody's religions pure non-sense.

Add to this: "what is a sin"? How many wars did occur because some masturbates? Yet accordingly to your "unaware of what legitimacy means" religion, it's "a sin"

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It's interesting to see that even in a time when mythology is understood for what it is, there are still people who believe in myth. I have traveled a lot and met with people all over the world. Everywhere I have been people laugh at the mythology of other people but are completely oblivious to the same absurdities in their own religion. For example, I met a Lacandon Mayan man in the jungles of Mexico/Guatemala who thought it foolish to believe that a God lived in the clouds. He knew that clouds could not hold up any weight and so it did not make sense. However, he also knew that the world rested on the back of a turtle floating in a giant ocean. Duh, that's obvious. lol.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 02:42:30 PM

So? At the end, what wrong did Satan? Riot against the "Eternal Dictator" you call God? "He knew"?! If "he knew" would prevent it before. And where does free will and foreknowledge fit within Noah story?
In movies God would be Senator Palpatine and Satan Luke Skywalker.

We would need a Satan's Bible to know where he stands.

He rebelled against God, and sinned. He also got humans to sin, and continued to try to get humans to sin more and more. He was prideful, and wanted to be like God. To have peace, and never have sadness again, we need to get rid of sin, and Satan wanted everyone to sin. Satan got other angels to fall like him, and the angels had children with human women, and taught humans things that led to sin. The angels (called Watchers in the book of Enoch), taught humans how to make better swords, and mirrors and makeup (which can lead to pride or shame, more sin), etc. There's already a Satanists bible, but Satan is the father of lies, so it's going to be nothing more than trying to make himself look good.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 9 But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world.

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So? At the end, what wrong did Satan? Riot against the "Eternal Dictator" you call God? "He knew"?! If "he knew" would prevent it before. And where does free will and foreknowledge fit within Noah story?
In movies God would be Senator Palpatine and Satan Luke Skywalker.

We would need a Satan's Bible to know where he stands.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 01, 2015, 12:42:37 PM

Quote from: Sweminer777 on September 01, 2015, 06:33:06 AM

jesus aproved this.

The Catholic conquest of the new world exterminated around 400 million natives, and forcibly converted the remainder of the population to Christianity. Many of the genocide perpetrators of that time are being revered as "Saints" now.
...

None of my Indian friends would agree with your views on this subject.

Personally, I have difficulty considering Pizzaro as on a "Catholic Conquest."

Cortez, perhaps in part.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 10:32:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 01, 2015, 06:18:39 AM

We have barely gotten to the point where we can clearly talk about the 3 scientific laws that prove that God exists. Questions about Satan will need to be answered from personal belief.

Satan is the fallen angel who plays the largest part in corrupting the perfect earth, the perfect people. "Fallen" means that he has turned himself to be against God. While "angel" may mean space alien, it means a whole lot more than we think about when we say "space alien."

Satan is not myth, although proving that he exists might be more difficult even than proving God exists.

Satan is the proof God doesn't exist. The "fallen angel" almost took down the "almighty" if weren't for God's army of angels. How pathetic can this be?!
So the "almighty", isn't "almighty" at all and needs an army to protect his ass.
God also can't foresee, so isn't omniscient, because he keeps regretting something and didn't saw Satan's rebellion coming. Cheesy

God knew it all was coming. My thoughts on this are, He wanted everyone to have free will (as it's a gift). If you asked anyone to take away their will completely, I think they'd say they wouldn't give away their free will for anything. But He knew that giving free will would result in some angels falling and sin in mankind. But He had a plan with Jesus. The fallen angel didn't almost take down anything. In the book of Job it's quite clear satan has to ask for permission to do things.

Quote from: RodeoX on September 01, 2015, 11:15:30 AM

Is belief in Satan polytheism? He is a super natural being and seems to be about as strong as any God. How is it monotheism if one believes in a sort of evil God?
Just wondering, I dunno Huh

Satan isn't a god, even though he would very much like to be worshiped as one. He still answers to God, and will die one day.

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Quote from: Sweminer777 on September 01, 2015, 06:33:06 AM

jesus aproved this.

The Catholic conquest of the new world exterminated around 400 million natives, and forcibly converted the remainder of the population to Christianity. Many of the genocide perpetrators of that time are being revered as "Saints" now.

But Islam is no different. Islamists have conducted similar genocidal campaigns in Arabia, Afghanistan, India, Indonesia.etc. And imagine what would have happened if they had discovered the Americas instead of the Catholics.

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Is belief in Satan polytheism? He is a super natural being and seems to be about as strong as any God. How is it monotheism if one believes in a sort of evil God?
Just wondering, I dunno Huh

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Quote from: BADecker on September 01, 2015, 06:18:39 AM

We have barely gotten to the point where we can clearly talk about the 3 scientific laws that prove that God exists. Questions about Satan will need to be answered from personal belief.

Satan is the fallen angel who plays the largest part in corrupting the perfect earth, the perfect people. "Fallen" means that he has turned himself to be against God. While "angel" may mean space alien, it means a whole lot more than we think about when we say "space alien."

Satan is not myth, although proving that he exists might be more difficult even than proving God exists.

Satan is the proof God doesn't exist. The "fallen angel" almost took down the "almighty" if weren't for God's army of angels. How pathetic can this be?!
So the "almighty", isn't "almighty" at all and needs an army to protect his ass.
God also can't foresee, so isn't omniscient, because he keeps regretting something and didn't saw Satan's rebellion coming. Cheesy

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Quote from: pehchan on September 01, 2015, 06:42:59 AM

In my childhood, I don't even know what is religion & what I am belongs to.
I had every religion friends with me. Some are my best friends. Education explained me the region thing.
In my childhood whenever there some bomb blasts or some bad thing happens, then my guardians used to say some bad people doing this.
I still don't want to categorize my friends in religion thing, But politics plays vital role to categorize them.
We can't blame religion for some lame people.
The only people do bad to humans or anything, is who don't believe in god or human being.

That's actually quite interesting.

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Quote from: Sweminer777 on September 01, 2015, 06:33:06 AM

jesus aproved this.

Since when? Thou shalt not murder was a commandment. Loving our neighbors as ourselves came right out of Jesus's mouth.

Don't confuse sinning Christians with what Jesus wanted.

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In my childhood, I don't even know what is religion & what I am belongs to.
I had every religion friends with me. Some are my best friends. Education explained me the region thing.
In my childhood whenever there some bomb blasts or some bad thing happens, then my guardians used to say some bad people doing this.
I still don't want to categorize my friends in religion thing, But politics plays vital role to categorize them.
We can't blame religion for some lame people.
The only people do bad to humans or anything, is who don't believe in god or human being.

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jesus aproved this.

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Quote from: tyrexs on July 15, 2015, 01:43:36 PM

"if you ask i hate isis? i will answer yes" for islam absolutely not, i know a little about islam even islam not my religion

I only wish if there were more people like you.Hate the wrong deeds and acts irrespective of who commits it.Do not hate the doer

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 12:26:31 AM

Yes, but then "who is Satan"? What does it represent?
Just a mythological figure you're teach to irrationally fear and hate. So whatever someone claims to be satanist you're meant to have an irrational hate towards it.
In many ways it's like an "ancient Hitler", except for the part that Hitler did actually existed.

If we pick the Old Testament God vs Christian Devil, God killed way more people, caused way more havoc, and yet you are meant to hate Satan. Pavlovian to its best!

We have barely gotten to the point where we can clearly talk about the 3 scientific laws that prove that God exists. Questions about Satan will need to be answered from personal belief.

Satan is the fallen angel who plays the largest part in corrupting the perfect earth, the perfect people. "Fallen" means that he has turned himself to be against God. While "angel" may mean space alien, it means a whole lot more than we think about when we say "space alien."

Satan is not myth, although proving that he exists might be more difficult even than proving God exists.

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no more than i would hate a cockroach. keep your mud hut religion in the third world where it belongs.

I agree! Islam=Satanic

This is correct.

A religion that makes itself out to simply be expressing ways to live this life, might not be wrong at all. But any religion that expresses a way to Heaven other than through faith in Jesus and the sacrifice He made, is from Satan. And all the more, if like Islam, it has violence directives to conquer the world for itself.

I want to ask sir there is any proof that islam is satanic?
make me sure

The red part, above.

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Yes, but then "who is Satan"? What does it represent?
Just a mythological figure you're teach to irrationally fear and hate. So whatever someone claims to be satanist you're meant to have an irrational hate towards it.
In many ways it's like an "ancient Hitler", except for the part that Hitler did actually existed.

If we pick the Old Testament God vs Christian Devil, God killed way more people, caused way more havoc, and yet you are meant to hate Satan. Pavlovian to its best!

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Quote from: BCEmporium on September 01, 2015, 12:03:47 AM

You should ask first "what is satanic?", because it means... nothing.
Barbaric, yes it is, one of the roughest but not the only one, "Satanic" is just a label to call the opponents, but is pretty much undefined.

Nothing? why do you mean satanic is nothing?
Satanism is a broad term referring to a group of ideological and philosophical beliefs. Satanism includes symbolic association with, or admiration for, Satan, whom Satanists see as an inspiring and liberating figure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

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You should ask first "what is satanic?", because it means... nothing.
Barbaric, yes it is, one of the roughest but not the only one, "Satanic" is just a label to call the opponents, but is pretty much undefined.

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no more than i would hate a cockroach. keep your mud hut religion in the third world where it belongs.

I agree! Islam=Satanic

This is correct.

A religion that makes itself out to simply be expressing ways to live this life, might not be wrong at all. But any religion that expresses a way to Heaven other than through faith in Jesus and the sacrifice He made, is from Satan. And all the more, if like Islam, it has violence directives to conquer the world for itself.

I want to ask sir there is any proof that islam is satanic?
make me sure

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Quote from: saddampbuh on July 15, 2015, 12:47:08 PM

no more than i would hate a cockroach. keep your mud hut religion in the third world where it belongs.

I agree! Islam=Satanic

This is correct.

A religion that makes itself out to simply be expressing ways to live this life, might not be wrong at all. But any religion that expresses a way to Heaven other than through faith in Jesus and the sacrifice He made, is from Satan. And all the more, if like Islam, it has violence directives to conquer the world for itself.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on July 15, 2015, 12:47:08 PM

no more than i would hate a cockroach. keep your mud hut religion in the third world where it belongs.

I agree! Islam=Satanic

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 31, 2015, 03:49:47 PM

Bah. That old book has been changed around more times than you can count in an hour or two.

True. And each time it was a sin. For that matter the Bible is not even from Christianity. It was put together as a collection under Roman rule and is an official government document. We have lost most of the original Christian gospels when the Bible was made. Only books that fit with Roman sensibilities and law were allowed. These official books have also changed greatly from their original iterations.
Take for example the Sumerian story of Gilgamesh. God destroyed the world in a flood, one guy made an ark and filled it with animals to repopulate the planet. Sound familiar? It's the story that Noah and the ark is derived from. In other cases widely read Christian books were banned. The "Gospel according to Mary" was one such book. The Romans were completely against the idea of a women's role in religion. There must be priests and the priests must be men. It's the Roman way! They can't have a book in the Bible with lines like "But if the Savior made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Savior knows her very well."

P.S. If Lot can screw his daughters to increase the population then I should be able to repopulate the Earth with my sister. (This would be creepier if I had a sister Cheesy

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One is inclined to answer with a quote from Shakespeare.

But they are all too nasty.

lol...YET the Bard is quoted too, chapter and verse.

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1 Corinthians 11:6 - from http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/11258/what-happened-to-the-the-practice-of-women-covering-their-heads:

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The way I accept this unchanging rule, while opposing the enforcement of the cultural rule, only relevant in the Middle East, is this way. First, Paul in referring to nature is simply pointing out what most people realize. In general men look silly with long hair (with some exceptions) and in general women look beautiful with long, flowing, gorgeous hair (with some exceptions). Nobody would ever be able to deny this, just looked at models in magazines. Why is this the case? Paul argues it is a natural symbol that shows a woman under the headship of the man. In a man's case his headship is not in this world but invisible, so when praying to God the open air is a better symbol. Not that a woman does not ultimately have Christ as her head as well but that she came from the man, i.e. wo-man, as symbols of societies organization from the original template of Adam and Eve.

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The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

The problem is with the translations. The question is, if you were one of the people speaking the original language that Paul said this in, and if you were one who was actually hearing him speak it, and if you were one of those who listened to his explanations of what he meant - which explanations are not in the bible, BTW - what did he really say.

The translations are words that come down to us by the translators. Yes, most of the time they do their best. But their understanding of what was said is a hand-me-down understanding.

From BibleGateway https://www.biblegateway.com:

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1 Corinthians 11:6-9 The Message (MSG)

3-9 In a marriage relationship, there is authority from Christ to husband, and from husband to wife. The authority of Christ is the authority of God. Any man who speaks with God or about God in a way that shows a lack of respect for the authority of Christ, dishonors Christ. In the same way, a wife who speaks with God in a way that shows a lack of respect for the authority of her husband, dishonors her husband. Worse, she dishonors herself—an ugly sight, like a woman with her head shaved. This is basically the origin of these customs we have of women wearing head coverings in worship, while men take their hats off. By these symbolic acts, men and women, who far too often butt heads with each other, submit their “heads” to the Head: God.

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6 For if a woman will not wear [a head] covering, then she should cut off her hair too; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her head shorn or shaven, let her cover [her head].

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1 Corinthians 11:6Modern English Version (MEV)

6 For if the woman is not covered, let her also cut off her hair. But if it is a shame for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved, let her be covered.

Again, St. Paul was writing to the Corinthian people. Their customs are not like that of America. The customs were like that of today's Middle East. In the case of hair, it is the customs that make the validity. God is not making another commandment for people. The whole new testament was about upholding and fulfilling the commandments, not making new ones.

The big point in all of this is, get yourself out of guilt and feelings of guilt. If it is wrong in your eyes to do something, don't do it. If it is right to do something else, do it. Don't feel guilty. Rather, live for peace and tranquility among the people you live among.

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 31, 2015, 03:49:47 PM

Bah. That old book has been changed around more times than you can count in an hour or two.

True. And each time it was a sin. For that matter the Bible is not even from Christianity. It was put together as a collection under Roman rule and is an official government document. We have lost most of the original Christian gospels when the Bible was made. Only books that fit with Roman sensibilities and law were allowed. These official books have also changed greatly from their original iterations.
Take for example the Sumerian story of Gilgamesh. God destroyed the world in a flood, one guy made an ark and filled it with animals to repopulate the planet. Sound familiar? It's the story that Noah and the ark is derived from. In other cases widely read Christian books were banned. The "Gospel according to Mary" was one such book. The Romans were completely against the idea of a women's role in religion. There must be priests and the priests must be men. It's the Roman way! They can't have a book in the Bible with lines like "But if the Savior made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Savior knows her very well."

P.S. If Lot can screw his daughters to increase the population then I should be able to repopulate the Earth with my sister. (This would be creepier if I had a sister Cheesy

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Quote from: RodeoX on August 31, 2015, 02:45:38 PM

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The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. ....

Scenario. The politicians of Earth finally did it, and the nukes went flying. One hit the wrong stuff, and the resulting radiation half life on Earth is sixty years.

The only survivors were 24 people who got off in a spaceship just in time. Then there was a disease that killed off everyone on that ship except you and your sister.

As far as you know, only you two are alive.

Does the race die out because you follow The Book, or do you "just make up some words that justify it?"

Although this is a made up scenario, you can see clearly that it overrides rules made up and put down in an old book and alleged to be "The Word of God."

FAR MORE COMPLEX QUESTION. One of the two left living wants to, the other absolutely refuses.

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Quote from: RodeoX on August 31, 2015, 02:45:38 PM

The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

Then you didn't get through Revelation.

Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book

Why would He put it in if they couldn't?

I'm confused. That passage specifically says that you can not change any part of the Bible. If you add or subtract any part then God will punish you. Which is my point. It is clearly a sin for a Christian woman to leave her head uncovered. If you see one, then you should hold her down and cut off her hair. That's God's rule, not mine.

Bah. That old book has been changed around more times than you can count in an hour or two.

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Quote from: RodeoX on August 31, 2015, 02:45:38 PM

The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

Then you didn't get through Revelation.

Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book

Why would He put it in if they couldn't?

I'm confused. That passage specifically says that you can not change any part of the Bible. If you add or subtract any part then God will punish you. Which is my point. It is clearly a sin for a Christian woman to leave her head uncovered. If you see one, then you should hold her down and cut off her hair. That's God's rule, not mine.

Judgement comes at the end of your life, and the coming of Jesus. Not before.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on August 31, 2015, 02:56:07 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on August 31, 2015, 02:45:38 PM

The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

Then you didn't get through Revelation.

Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book

Why would He put it in if they couldn't?

I'm confused. That passage specifically says that you can not change any part of the Bible. If you add or subtract any part then God will punish you. Which is my point. It is clearly a sin for a Christian woman to leave her head uncovered. If you see one, then you should hold her down and cut off her hair. That's God's rule, not mine.

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Quote from: BADecker on August 31, 2015, 02:28:44 PM

1 Corinthians 11:6 - from http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/11258/what-happened-to-the-the-practice-of-women-covering-their-heads:

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The way I accept this unchanging rule, while opposing the enforcement of the cultural rule, only relevant in the Middle East, is this way. First, Paul in referring to nature is simply pointing out what most people realize. In general men look silly with long hair (with some exceptions) and in general women look beautiful with long, flowing, gorgeous hair (with some exceptions). Nobody would ever be able to deny this, just looked at models in magazines. Why is this the case? Paul argues it is a natural symbol that shows a woman under the headship of the man. In a man's case his headship is not in this world but invisible, so when praying to God the open air is a better symbol. Not that a woman does not ultimately have Christ as her head as well but that she came from the man, i.e. wo-man, as symbols of societies organization from the original template of Adam and Eve.

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The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

Then you didn't get through Revelation.

Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book

Why would He put it in if they couldn't?

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1 Corinthians 11:6 - from http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/11258/what-happened-to-the-the-practice-of-women-covering-their-heads:

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The way I accept this unchanging rule, while opposing the enforcement of the cultural rule, only relevant in the Middle East, is this way. First, Paul in referring to nature is simply pointing out what most people realize. In general men look silly with long hair (with some exceptions) and in general women look beautiful with long, flowing, gorgeous hair (with some exceptions). Nobody would ever be able to deny this, just looked at models in magazines. Why is this the case? Paul argues it is a natural symbol that shows a woman under the headship of the man. In a man's case his headship is not in this world but invisible, so when praying to God the open air is a better symbol. Not that a woman does not ultimately have Christ as her head as well but that she came from the man, i.e. wo-man, as symbols of societies organization from the original template of Adam and Eve.

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The problem is that puts some guys opinion superior to Gods infallible word. It makes me wonder what other things I could change. Could I have sex with my sister? Why not, Couldn't I just come up with some words that justify it. That is what has happened for many rules found in the Bible, like the one we are discussing.
I don't recall any passage in the Bible that allows any person to change the word of God. There is no ambiguity in the passage, women MUST cover their heads.

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Quote from: RodeoX on August 31, 2015, 02:07:28 PM

Depends on who you ask. Christians are absolutely forbidden from eating shellfish. But most Christians don't even know that. Christian women are REQUIRED to cover their heads also. But again, since most Christians don't know this and we have little cultural connection with the writers of the bible it is ignored. (Spoiler Alert Most Christians are going straight to hell, lol)
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The only way to be saved is through Jesus Christ, not works.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

The bible doesn't talk about burning in hell forever and ever like most think:

THE BIBLICAL TRUTH ABOUT HELL

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

I dont hate religion, no matter what your religion or whether you have no religion. I just hate the person who committed the crime.

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after reading some comments , i see some of you dont know much about islam , they think its a killing religion , but anyways i believe people who hate islam are just so confused , im not telling you to be a muslim or anything but hey! give it a chance and read my friend .... (dont get angry)

Islam = 1 god (have no son , no wife , no mother .... think about it)

Islam = Dont kill Noone! (its in quran, not internet or media...) but Only if they wanted to kill you (and thats your right) .

Islam = Peace , Love , ..... read and you will see your it self. (Dont read on websites that hate islam .... )

I love islam and i love your religion ....

I am confused Huh

Why do some Muslim women wear burqas or head gear, are they required to do so?

Depends on who you ask. Christians are absolutely forbidden from eating shellfish. But most Christians don't even know that. Christian women are REQUIRED to cover their heads also. But again, since most Christians don't know this and we have little cultural connection with the writers of the bible it is ignored. (Spoiler Alert Most Christians are going straight to hell, lol)

Most Muslims would say that you must dress modestly. What does that mean? Depends on who you ask again. A conservative Muslim might say that you should cover up your body as much as practical. This is not a rule for women, men should also be covered. They should wear long pants, long shirts, and wrap their heads. Another Muslim might say you don't have to cover up except at the mosque, but you should not wear skimpy clothing in public.

1 Corinthians 11:6 King James version
"For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered."

1 Corinthians 11:6 - from http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/11258/what-happened-to-the-the-practice-of-women-covering-their-heads:

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The way I accept this unchanging rule, while opposing the enforcement of the cultural rule, only relevant in the Middle East, is this way. First, Paul in referring to nature is simply pointing out what most people realize. In general men look silly with long hair (with some exceptions) and in general women look beautiful with long, flowing, gorgeous hair (with some exceptions). Nobody would ever be able to deny this, just looked at models in magazines. Why is this the case? Paul argues it is a natural symbol that shows a woman under the headship of the man. In a man's case his headship is not in this world but invisible, so when praying to God the open air is a better symbol. Not that a woman does not ultimately have Christ as her head as well but that she came from the man, i.e. wo-man, as symbols of societies organization from the original template of Adam and Eve.

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Quote from: Bitfundit on August 30, 2015, 09:03:35 PM

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after reading some comments , i see some of you dont know much about islam , they think its a killing religion , but anyways i believe people who hate islam are just so confused , im not telling you to be a muslim or anything but hey! give it a chance and read my friend .... (dont get angry)

Islam = 1 god (have no son , no wife , no mother .... think about it)

Islam = Dont kill Noone! (its in quran, not internet or media...) but Only if they wanted to kill you (and thats your right) .

Islam = Peace , Love , ..... read and you will see your it self. (Dont read on websites that hate islam .... )

I love islam and i love your religion ....

I am confused Huh

Why do some Muslim women wear burqas or head gear, are they required to do so?

Depends on who you ask. Christians are absolutely forbidden from eating shellfish. But most Christians don't even know that. Christian women are REQUIRED to cover their heads also. But again, since most Christians don't know this and we have little cultural connection with the writers of the bible it is ignored. (Spoiler Alert Most Christians are going straight to hell, lol)

Most Muslims would say that you must dress modestly. What does that mean? Depends on who you ask again. A conservative Muslim might say that you should cover up your body as much as practical. This is not a rule for women, men should also be covered. They should wear long pants, long shirts, and wrap their heads. Another Muslim might say you don't have to cover up except at the mosque, but you should not wear skimpy clothing in public.

1 Corinthians 11:6 King James version
"For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered."

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Hate is a retribution of hate... Islam preaches hate, so hardly will ever get any love back.

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after reading some comments , i see some of you dont know much about islam , they think its a killing religion , but anyways i believe people who hate islam are just so confused , im not telling you to be a muslim or anything but hey! give it a chance and read my friend .... (dont get angry)

Islam = 1 god (have no son , no wife , no mother .... think about it)

Islam = Dont kill Noone! (its in quran, not internet or media...) but Only if they wanted to kill you (and thats your right) .

Islam = Peace , Love , ..... read and you will see your it self. (Dont read on websites that hate islam .... )

I love islam and i love your religion ....

I am confused Huh

Why do some Muslim women wear burqas or head gear, are they required to do so?

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Yeah. Just forget it. As long as there are Muslims, people are gonna hate Islam. Many of the haters will be the Muslims themselves.

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Quote from: Santoso on August 29, 2015, 11:54:02 AM

Islam is a peaceful religion. I think those who killed innocent people brutally under the name of Islam is not real Islam.

From the date of its invention, Islam has used genocide and warfare to gain new followers. Very few of the current Muslim-majority nations converted to Islam in a peaceful way. And it is foolish to say that ISIS is not related to Islam. ISIS justifies the killing of Yazidis and other non-Muslims, by quoting the Hadiths and other Islamic religious texts.

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Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 09:09:37 PM

after reading some comments , i see some of you dont know much about islam , they think its a killing religion , but anyways i believe people who hate islam are just so confused , im not telling you to be a muslim or anything but hey! give it a chance and read my friend .... (dont get angry)

Islam = 1 god (have no son , no wife , no mother .... think about it)

Islam = Dont kill Noone! (its in quran, not internet or media...) but Only if they wanted to kill you (and thats your right) .

Islam = Peace , Love , ..... read and you will see your it self. (Dont read on websites that hate islam .... )

I love islam and i love your religion ....

Um, don't some of those that call themselves Islam WANT TO KILL US? Isn't that what this whole thing is about? So why do you come in with all this lovey dovey hold hands and have a big nice prayerfest in the name of Islam?

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There has been more bloodshed and pain caused in the name of Religion over the years than anything else and it's a true blight on humanity. Islam and ISIS are fundamentally linked ( these fools aren't killing in the name of Hinduism or Christianity) therefore Islam needs to take of this, but does Islam really want that? 💀💣💀

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Islam is a peaceful religion. I think those who killed innocent people brutally under the name of Islam is not real Islam. They just wore mask of Islam to make people hate Islam. And it got me cursing them and their acts too.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on July 16, 2015, 12:29:18 AM

Well it's the best interests of all the organized religions to persuade you they are important.
They however don't have your best interests at heart.
Anyway, ignoring a religion isn't ignoring God. They are both different things.

Well we can pray to Him in house instead of in mosque or church, its better than do nothing for Him after what He have given to us. Just let the fanatics do what they want.

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

IS, not ISIS.

IS as in "Islamic State"? correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there other Islamic State that doesn't have any ties to ISIS (or whatever you call it)?

IS for Islamic State (Dawla Islamiya), formerly known as Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (Dawla Islamiya fi Iraqi wa Sham). There is not another Islamic State, because there is not another caliphate. States with major people of Muslims but don't use Islam law (Koran and Hadith) fully, called Darul Islam, not Dawla Islamiya. CMIIW.

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Religion gave humanity the miracle of deliberate-flight-into-that-really-fucking-huge-obvious-building. Twice.
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This is paramount of ignorance! 9/11 was an inside job, it has nothing to do with religion. PERIOD.

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I don't hate hate islam, i just don't like it. It's a threat of the freedom world.

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Quote from: jayce on July 16, 2015, 12:20:27 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on July 15, 2015, 02:42:18 PM

You can easily believe in God and don't have to do anything else. There are no rules or anything to follow. God has never asked for worship.

Believing in God and believing in organized religion are two different things. Religion demands you should worship God, or in other words, it's man demanding you should worship God, as all organized religions are man-made.

I don't get it, you know that God has created you and whole universe, but choose to ignore Him. And I think there is no way to know God other than through religion.

Well it's the best interests of all the organized religions to persuade you they are important.
They however don't have your best interests at heart.
Anyway, ignoring a religion isn't ignoring God. They are both different things.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on July 15, 2015, 02:42:18 PM

You can easily believe in God and don't have to do anything else. There are no rules or anything to follow. God has never asked for worship.

Believing in God and believing in organized religion are two different things. Religion demands you should worship God, or in other words, it's man demanding you should worship God, as all organized religions are man-made.

I don't get it, you know that God has created you and whole universe, but choose to ignore Him. And I think there is no way to know God other than through religion.

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after reading some comments , i see some of you dont know much about islam , they think its a killing religion , but anyways i believe people who hate islam are just so confused , im not telling you to be a muslim or anything but hey! give it a chance and read my friend .... (dont get angry)

Islam = 1 god (have no son , no wife , no mother .... think about it)

Islam = Dont kill Noone! (its in quran, not internet or media...) but Only if they wanted to kill you (and thats your right) .

Islam = Peace , Love , ..... read and you will see your it self. (Dont read on websites that hate islam ....

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I love islam and i love your religion ....

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

IS, not ISIS.

IS as in "Islamic State"? correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there other Islamic State that doesn't have any ties to ISIS (or whatever you call it)?

Right.

If you can't make it all the way to saying "ISLAM," just say "ISIS," like the little kids do. Much easier. And if "ISIS" is too difficult, "IS" will do.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on July 15, 2015, 02:42:18 PM

Quote from: jayce on July 15, 2015, 02:19:52 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

And then how can you know God without religion? It sounds absurd for me. Why do you need to believe in "higher power" without worship it/him?

You can easily believe in God and don't have to do anything else. There are no rules or anything to follow. God has never asked for worship.

Believing in God and believing in organized religion are two different things. Religion demands you should worship God, or in other words, it's man demanding you should worship God, as all organized religions are man-made.

Right.

Even what most people call science is a form of religion. And atheism certainly is religion.

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Quote from: WeR on July 15, 2015, 07:49:52 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on July 15, 2015, 02:55:49 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

IS, not ISIS.

IS as in "Islamic State"? correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there other Islamic State that doesn't have any ties to ISIS (or whatever you call it)?

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 15, 2015, 02:55:49 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

IS, not ISIS.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 15, 2015, 02:55:49 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

Maybe they would like to be called ISIS, but I'm not their friend so I use the term that everyone in the Arabic world uses. I have spent a lot of time there and everyone who opposes them uses this term. In reality they are the same. DAESH is the acronym in Arabic for ISIS. In the Islamic world they only use DAESH because it has a double meaning of sorts. When you pronounce it, it sounds like the word in Arabic meaning "to trample" or crush under foot.
This is offensive to DAESH and in fact using that word is illegal in the Islamic state. By proclamation anyone saying "DAESH" will have their tongue cut out.

ISIS is mostly just an American thing. (and some in the UK). No one in the military or intel community uses it anymore either.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 15, 2015, 03:36:33 PM

Christianity doesn't make people hate others. People hate others because we're sinful. There is nothing in Christianity that would make someone hate someone else. People do that well enough alone.

I think I've already explained the Christianity part, but I have to disagree about the people part. people are born innocent, we became sinful because we hate and religions gives us a reason to.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 03:28:11 PM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 15, 2015, 03:15:03 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

Christianity teaches not to hate others.

1 John 4:20 If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

1 John 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

I never said that Christianity or Islam teaches their believers to hate others. I said they make people hate each other, because of the diversity. of course not all people hate others because of their different religion, but many does.

Christianity doesn't make people hate others. People hate others because we're sinful. There is nothing in Christianity that would make someone hate someone else. People do that well enough alone.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 15, 2015, 03:15:03 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

Christianity teaches not to hate others.

1 John 4:20 If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

1 John 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

I never said that Christianity or Islam teaches their believers to hate others. I said they make people hate each other, because of the diversity. of course not all people hate others because of their different religion, but many does.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

Christianity teaches not to hate others.

1 John 4:20 If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

1 John 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

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Quote from: Beliathon on July 15, 2015, 01:14:03 PM

Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 12:51:37 PM

Most Americans are religious too, and unfortunately we're a very violent culture. It's an ugly combination. I'm truly sorry about the bombings america does, it shames me deeply. If I was in charge we'd dismantle all the bombs.

In light of all this violence, wouldn't you agree that "hate is good it make us feel alive", is a stupid, shitty, childish thing to say? In truth it hurts to hate, just as it hurts to be hated. It feels good to love, just as it feels good to be loved.

Of course, as soon as you dismantled the bombs, violent-prone aggressors would come in and cut your head off, or force you to submit to their relgion.

Seems like I heard you didn't like religion....

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 15, 2015, 01:52:58 PM

I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.

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Quote from: jayce on July 15, 2015, 02:19:52 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

And then how can you know God without religion? It sounds absurd for me. Why do you need to believe in "higher power" without worship it/him?

You can easily believe in God and don't have to do anything else. There are no rules or anything to follow. God has never asked for worship.

Believing in God and believing in organized religion are two different things. Religion demands you should worship God, or in other words, it's man demanding you should worship God, as all organized religions are man-made.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 01:49:06 PM

I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

And then how can you know God without religion? It sounds absurd for me. Why do you need to believe in "higher power" without worship it/him?

I don't hate Islam, just hate all violence by evil human.

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I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil. Wink

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I ~~hate~~ don't like all religions because they make people hates each other. it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

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"if you ask i hate isis? i will answer yes" for islam absolutely not, i know a little about islam even islam not my religion

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Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 12:25:52 PM

Cause hate is good it make us feel alive , smart , different and safe.
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This life is very hard and i understand, but things are about to change dont worry, just believe in god and no matter what "Dont hate"

In one sentence your praising the hate and in the next your telling people don't hate.

Make up your mind. What is it? Good or bad?

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Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 12:51:37 PM

Most Americans are religious too, and unfortunately we're a very violent culture. It's an ugly combination. I'm truly sorry about the bombings america does, it shames me deeply. If I was in charge we'd dismantle all the bombs.

In light of all this violence, wouldn't you agree that "hate is good it make us feel alive", is a stupid, shitty, childish thing to say? In truth it hurts to hate, just as it hurts to be hated. It feels good to love, just as it feels good to be loved.

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Quote from: Beliathon on July 15, 2015, 12:39:15 PM

Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 12:25:52 PM

Cause hate is good it make us feel alive

Doesn't look very alive to me.

Science gave humanity the miracle of flight.

Religion gave humanity the miracle of deliberate-flight-into-that-really-fucking-huge-obvious-building. Twice.

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

A New Yorker

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no more than i would hate a cockroach. keep your mud hut religion in the third world where it belongs.

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Quote from: kayenpal on July 15, 2015, 12:25:52 PM

Cause hate is good it make us feel alive

Doesn't look very alive to me.

Science gave humanity the miracle of flight.

Religion gave humanity the miracle of deliberate-flight-into-that-really-fucking-huge-obvious-building. Twice.

Yours in compassion and solidarity,

A New Yorker

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hi

You hate islam ?

Good hate it as much as possible untill you shit your pants , lets me tell u why :

Cause hate is good it make us feel alive , smart , different and safe., whats there is there noone can change it, we know that but .... all we can do is hate, shit , eat , sex , and bitch about whats wrong and whats right, so we can feel that we are special and different , its not about religions its never was really, its about us Only .... cause if all this was about any religion than i think noone will hate instead everybudy will search everywhere for the truth and will never listen to stupid things like media, you will only use your mind and your heart to reach the truth my brother Wink

Anyways if you are a hater of a religion its not because the religion is bad , its because you are trying to be special and different my brother

, cause you are getting older and your balls started getting some hairs on them i understand that so you must do and hate something to feel older .

This life is very hard and i understand, but things are about to change dont worry, just believe in god and no matter what "Dont hate" Stay clean and give things a chance

thank u.

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