Topic: Do you have any Good strategy to improved martin fail system Playing Dice Game? (Read 1815 times)

Even martingale itself is not strategy or technique all these are luck and tricks which work for different play differently. Dice and other similar games are based on luck by playing random bets or figure. When you have to win you by yourself choose right things. Your luck is most important and central thing to make you loss or profit.

"know when to stop and go home"
make me wonder how to control this? i'm still playing dice sometimes but if playing can't understand myself to keep
betting even i already won some keeping myself trying to make some big amount, greedy and not able to be contented
with some winnings. all methods make same results, more on losing.

Actually, I find Poker to be even harder to profit from, because it incorporates luck+some skill in the winning equation.
Also I don't see people who are master of Poker theory and very skilled, theoretical players to dominate every poker room.

With Dice there is only one strategy worth mentioning, it is called - "know when to stop and go home".
Because anything - martingale, paroli, mixed pattern betting is not gonna win you more than flat betting!

Looking back at my strategy, although it does seem interesting, I would strongly advice not to use that strategy.

I may have won some bitcoins with this, but I certainly lost a lot. As actmyname already said, the best strategy of them all is not to gamble.

Gambling, not even once.

Yea gamblers fallacy is strong in some ^^ . Its better to take up skill based games like poker. Ok yes some luck is required but its better then blind pickings. Or one could try betting which is also better than blind pickings.

Well, i always reset after 9 losses on martingale since i've had some ridiculous large streaks in the past. And i do some bigger bets in between when i have that 'gut'  feeling to make up for the streaks that got reset.

But like i always say: Every strategy works, untill it doesn't.

well i think i figure out a strategy you have play with like 0.1 btc and you can get like 0.01 daily but im still not sure and also checking it i hope it will work for me

Of course, there is a chance that you'll lose 0.1 BTC. As far as I know, there is no real strategy to win for 100%. It is always a risk, no matter what strategy you are using.

The best strategy on my opinion as well!. Don't gamble even if you can afford to lose it, because even you can afford it, it still feels bad losing.

i think script will not work on dice game.. it is random program and design to profit for the owner of site.. you know what i mean. so that it is impossible. all you need is just luck

Interesting strategy. But I won't risk my 0.1 BTC in dice. That amount is already a lot for me.
You may have a chance to double it but same equal chance of losing it all either.
Thanks though. Maybe I'll try this with low amount only.

maybe it was a good strategy but even if you bet in 95% chance you can have two lose and you will lose your 0.1 btc so it is not a good strategy.
better if you just bet all what you have in just one bet than leave it will be less stressed and if you win just stop one bet per day can make you have a great profit in a week with less risk.

got my attention back here it was a good advise the last one, don't gamble. i wish gamblers can take this word from you.
but yes you are right win or lose make a big bet and go out immediately will help you win if luck is on your way.

Gambler's fallacy. Doesn't matter whether your bet is 0.00001 or 0.1, the odds are the same of losing. "Prebets" are absolutely worthless statistically.

Best strategy if you're gambling: bet all your bankroll on whatever payout you want, but do it once and leave afterwards.

The more you bet, the more you lose [statistically]. Hence, you go all-in with what you're willing to lose. As you bet, the house edge clips winnings from you until you go broke.

Best strategy: don't gamble

where did you play that game? only 7 losses how long did you play i think 17-20 loss is the worst and keep doubling your bet would burned everything sing martin fails.

You may be lucky so you haven't seen continuous loses more than 7 but surely if you use this method of longer run surely you will get much bigger continuous loses. I saw around 20+ continuous loses while playing dice. Tough to guess the outcome in a dice game.

timing and analyze plus luck maybe that's what you need to win in a dice site, i can't see any possible ways its a system that so hard to
defeat, i think  if that system detect that you are using the martingales it will not allowed you to win more but making a huge numbers
of loss will kill all of your money.

I don't know.

Maybe instead of doubling your bankroll you just try to recover your losses and don't have neither profit or loss if you don't win the first roll? So would take more losing rolls for you to lose all your bankroll

Well,i've been into gambling for sometime (mostly dice) and i have tried a lot of bots,a lot of systems,a lot of different strategies.
As i noticed,martingale on provably fair site wont work actually,even when u have insane balance cause soon or later you will loose all.
I got 25 losses in a row playing 49,5% chance,it happened to me few times during my gambling career.

Looking for some new technique and strategies for dice game can just waste of time. It all depend on luck to have winning streak on dice game otherwise nothing could be helpful without pretty good bankroll. Some players have very attractive profile on dice sites and winning again and again with normal 2x payout.

in my experience your success in martingale method is only depending on size of your bankroll and obviously the size of the bet you are starting with.

you can also find out about the highest losing streak record (which i think it is about 25-30 reds in a row on 2x) so that you can make decisions.

but in the end there is no guarantee that you don't see a 31 red in a row or more.

Well I always use Martingale system when playing on dice, and so far I have never encountered a 10 straight lose (the longest losing streak I have is 7). Most of the time it is a fail, but if you have a beefy bankroll, it is totally worth it and may help you get some nice profits.

just for sharing i went to 17 loses playing dice with yobit keep doubling the amount of my bet thinking that because i have good initial capital martin fail would not eat me up, but 17 straight lose make me stop and surrender before it burned everything in my wallet.

In the post you say: "Its bet on a series of 12 total possible red/losses at 2.00X" Actually to expect 12 reds in a row betting with 50% winning chance is not enough. Many times I've had more that 12 losses in a row, my "all time high" so far 16.

sure betting? wow is thats an strategy too or you have fixed bet? i think theres no surebet if theres no fixing that happenings, for OP martin fails always win you in the short time so better be wiser and stay away every time you already have the chance.

SO this is like all about luck mate, sorry, but i am doing the sure bets in sports betting, arb betting. hehe.. 
-cheers-

good point so that's why i first bet 30% in the first try if wins i will quit right away and if lose i will only stake 50 % not going all in
so being not that greedy will still the best strategy to do. quit until you are still ahead don't let your greediness to eat you up.

The best strategy to win with Martingale is to stop playing as soon as possible.  The longer you play the more likely you will hit a loosing streak, and completely loose your bankroll.  The key is to not be greedy and get out while you are ahead.  If you make your bet your first roll, then quit right away.  As soon as you make a win, quit.  That is the only strategy I can think of.

just to give some update i did some working for a short term dice game, try betting 30% of your actual capital in the first bet if wins quit, if lose try 10% if lose quit if win double, don't allow your capital to totally burned out just spend 50% then comeback another day, not recommending i just sharing be at least wins 30%  and quit.

Sorry mate if i will say this, but unfortunately, no strategies work, it only works in short term, but in long term, HE affects you and you will lose it all, i think better to set a goal that is 10% of your bankroll only, and stop after that. Then try to multiply it in poker or sports betting.

Any kiddie here offering strategies for such thing is just something it will not work in the long run and even in the short run(maybe in short run if you are lucky but not because of the strategy). When playing dice like OP is asking to beat the house in a game of chance this is totally impossible because every casino has a house edge and no matter how small it is in the long run it will make itself present and make you lose money. Best thing to do if you have money to burn playing dice is playing sportsbook and trying martingale there, chances are higher to win there rather than here but martingale has not been proved as a winning strategy so far and is considered as a failed one by many here.

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you can't really change anything about martingale strategy in dice games. it is as good as it gets. you can change your multiplier and play around with the minimum amount of bet but in the end it will lead to a big losing streak that empty your pocket so make your pocket bankroll bigger.

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Is this the only site that let you bet on the house? This is a good idea and I'm pretty sure this site will get popular for it's unique way of betting. I will try this out and will see how things goes.

You should know by now that there is no strategy to beat the house edge. The longer you play the more the chances are to bust since you are always playing against the odds.

i think being familiar with the rotation of results can make your martin fails work while using the system keep checking your bet and count the numbers of losses that you get and wait until that rotation show up again, it will works with some luck mate. and stop if you already earn at least 20% of your actual capital.

You coul martingale and instead of doubling up you could make the same bet again to try break even and that way if you lose you still get another try to break even.

I came up with a strategy which has proved to be very successful for both myself and a number of people who have commented on the forum.

Here is the OP Thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14464197

Enjoy.

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For example
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not much but hey small satoshis add up aswell

try it out you cant risk anything, you can also stop your investment at any time

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Good Luck

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There is no strategy that can make you win with gambling unless you're too good in numbers and have a fair idea of the hash to crack the number that is expected in the next bet. I do believe that some are very good in gambling and it's not just their luck that makes them win while their knowledge too but they won't share their strategy.

i think if you limite you bet you can make a good profit because the max bet is limited by the house so you should limited more to make some profit and to stop when you are having many lost

Whatever strategy we come up with it won't make us profit, just bet and pray lol. i have tried many strategy the end result is loss.

Honestly there is not the best technique and all gambling site are base onluck but i can give a suggestion the best that you can do is to be patience dont be greedy and be satisfied what you had., ,because if you are greedy instead you already made a profit because of greediness you will still play it and gamble it to make more profit but end up losing..

I think you will hear a lot of crazy things from us here, everyone have some different strategy, and everyone have some different opinion. Truth is that every strategy works sometimes, and sometimes not. Its up to you to catch that moment and put higher bets. When its not the moments and you are losing, run away and come again tomorrow.
Dice is the game that require progressive playing, doubling or tripling you bet every time you lose. That is martingale but you don't need to rise every next bet, rise when you think its you turn to win. Simply speaking try to chase higher odds, like x5 x7 and double or triple every 3 - 5 bet. Or even higher odds with doubling on 10 bet.
Mixing your playing and strategies is the best plan in gambling, so try to be unpredictable as much as you can.

I think you already know what is the answer since you stated that in a long term it will only land on a same result and that is loss. So even lots of tricks and tweaks are being apply to martinfail system still no assurance it can take you for some earnings.

Tweaks, designs, tricks etc. even for a short term playing is all luck based. If others got a effective strategy* for a short term, they got their earnings thru luck and not on that strategy.

I try to chance my winning chance by adjust it into low so it will become high multiplier prize.
Just experience that why just loss at the front and win big at the end... and it's proven great since I'm experience profit using the method

I recently adjusted my strategy to the following:

 - Bet 0.00001 BTC on a 95% chance roll.
 - When I lose that roll, I increase the bet to 0.1 BTC.
 - After the win, immediately go back to 0.00001 BTC.

Won 0.2 BTC yesterday with this, but lost 0.1 BTC today with the same strategy. There is always a chance of losing it, so it's definitely something to be careful about.

I still use martingale on Rollin, what I do is depositing 3 mBTC and martingaling it at 150%, starting from 2 satoshis. So far I have not busted my bankroll. Every time I double my investment, I withdraw it to my personal address.

During the time I have used my strategy, I have got around 2 mBTC per day. Of course I am not getting rich, but considering I let the bot do the hard work, I cannot complain. If once I bust my bankroll, I will simply start from scratch either with what is left or with a new deposit (in case the first one is too low to start a new session).

The trick, IMO, is not getting greedy and keeping the initial bet amount low (well, I also keep it low because I do not have much BTC, taking into account that I could face a bad luck streak).

There is no good dice strategy because if there wass, people would have already bankrupted all the casinos. If you want todice do it for fun not to make money

I use martingale but if I lose I male the same bet again to break even then carry on by doing that same bet if I win I keep going if I lose again I might bet lower next time of its 2 loses in a row then build up back to is and sometimes roll 2 wine in a row of the same bet. I fins it give you more savenet space.

i have done with all strategy because it all doesn't working well for me and for me luck is more important because in gambling if you have no luck any strategy will not working especially for dice game because to start these game lucky is very necessary

I think thats impossible to beat house edge in dice. The best way just don't gambling for long run, just bet for short run, and im prefer do reverse martin on higher chance (say 80%), with after lose 250% and after win -20%

Yes, strategy in dice is not possible to obtain, because of the house edge. It's all luck, as the numbers are against you. The maths do not allow it in the long run, you can read about it here

Like safari88 said, he received much better results with sports betting as there is no house edge. To use strategy, you'll have to play a game with no house edge such as poker or sports betting. Try looking into these two gamemodes.

will try this out mate just got busted again from primedice i already win but i forget how to control myself already have atleast .01 from .004 initial capital but for being such a greedy guy i lost it all try 4.95 winning chance and 5 percent when loss and 5 percent when wins 80 rolls, stop after 3 attempt to avoid losing guys,. it works but may mistake again for not controlling myself. thank you from your insight guys.

As all says, there is no working strategy on dice games but you can try what i am using if you like, 47% win chance and double on loss, you can try with base bet 1/15000 of your bankroll hehe

honestly I have done a lot of strategy on the game of dice, but the result is always bad. so I leave the game, and switched to sports betting, and I get much better results.

there is no strategy with 100% of winning chance in gambling there is always a risk of fail because of the calculation made by the house there is imposible that you will made a profit from the site.
if you want to try many strategies to make sure of it but as i said anyway the house always win so it will be a wast of time you need luck after all.

I used to never do in gambling Dice Games. Normally when I do a game technique that I use is "% Chance to win" I usually replace "% Chance to win" with my desire. I always replace it. The numbers that I often use is 45-87%. With the addition of a point behind as an example of 45.74546%, 76.4736%, etc.

Hi guys as i continue my journey to seek more ways to win with the house playing dice game, I'm just curious maybe you have a good techniques using this old method as we all know that in a long term run it will only results into a big loss, I personally experience it so seeking for more insight maybe you guys add some more or some tweaks and work for you, I hope you can share it here guys. thanks in advance.