Topic: Do you think players can play properly against a recovered Covid-19 opponent? (Read 431 times)

It will definitely affect the performance of players, if you have to fight an opposing team that has just recovered from COVID-19.
Fear of contracting must exist, even though the opposing team has tested before the match and declared 100% clean. But it still makes
worry and less comfortable when competing. Therefore, it is regularly conducted tests on all players to ensure that no one is infected.
However like i say before, it is not eliminate 100% worry feeling.

Its part of human behavior when it comes to this matter but they should think of that players wont be released nor allowed to play when theyre still unfit or isnt fully cured yet and the association would make it sure
because this wont only affect the patient itself but also they do risk all of the people inside the stadium or with co-players in the venue or even from the staff or whatsoever.Its just dumb if they would let out
without verifying anything.This issue  does particularly in psychological aspect.

That's outright stupid. Most of us are regularly suffering from a cold, often a few times a year. And this disease is basically the same type of infection as Covid-19. So how do you feel when you engage in social interaction with people who recovered from this illness or another similar virus infection, that is, influenza, or common flu? And what about yourself?

The sleep of reason produces monsters

This is only for some people but in the fact that previous infected people would always still have the chance on getting infected once again and only a few which are really immune to this disease and not all would really have that kind of type when it comes to immunity.Going back into the topic if players would really bother out into their minds on playing against a prev. covid victim then it will depend
on someones emotional and psychological thing yet if we do talk about fully recovered which means its totally zero unless if he do go along with other infected person then possibility of getting infected is there but overall this wont really be an issue.

Yes, I think players that are Covid-19 free will have will this kind of mentality when they are up against a person that has recovered from the virus. Of course, they won't admit it, but we all know that humans is fearful of something they know that it can hurt them. So most probably, if we are going to bet, we should factor this somewhat as it can really affect them psychologically, just saying.

OP, you have a big point there.

Even all those players who recovered from Covid-19 undergo the best of the best checking and now cleared to play, there's still on other player's mindset that they are still against an infected one. That's truly not an act of discrimination but a normal approach as everyone is doing their best not to be got caught by the virus. We can't truly understand these player's feelings as we aren't in their situation.

I'm with the idea that players who got recovered just less than a month, shouldn't be allowed to play, at least just for safety. There are numerous cases now that the virus got reactivated to those supposed to be recovered people. The reason vaccine is a must to totally kill any trace of the virus on the body.

Regarding coronavirus, there is no exact evidence that people who have been ill with them develop immunity.
Yes, they have antibodies that help fight the virus. But it is also known about cases of REPEATED virus infection, which casts doubt on the issue of immunity.

The main thing is that after a person has recovered, the virus in him dies, which means that he can safely contact with other people.

You have a point, in games like poker and roulette where everyone's sitting close to each other, it's hard to move them far apart without making the game inconvenient to play by forcing them to move forward to use their cards and chips. Slot players are easy to separate, just vacate every other slot machine. Though unfortunately gamblers are even ignoring that: https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/casinos-put-safety-first-but-many-guests-ignore-protocols-2051583/

In as much nobody insult anyone with covid-19 there will be no stigmatization which will turn to affect their performance during their play. But, in absence of this stigmatization from co-players or fans; there won't be anything that will act as depression on the players and they will play decently.
I don't expect someone who has been declared free from coronavirus to be thinking under wise which will affect his play on the pitch. I don't think those without the covid-19 will play better than those who contacted it but declared free.

Well, perhaps I will disagree with this.
There's no clear evidence that the COVID-19 patient who recovered from the virus will not be reinfected again. But you are right, once you have been infected and recovered there were have antibodies to the virus but it does not mean you are protected from the virus, other's can't be able to neutralize that antibodies to their blood that can create immunity.

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Indeed, a recovered patient will still have fear to be infected again in a casino that has a possibility of mass gathering. But the COVID-19 protocols and guidelines that have properly implemented in every casino will greatly help them.

The presence or absence of Covid-19, players in a match will not always have the mood, fitness, enthusiasm, performance or whatever it will be the same every time the match and therefore also at least our predictions will not always be right either. So I personally have believed for a long time about the factors of players that will not always be the same in every game and with the existence of Covid-19 indeed, this will greatly affect because there are even other factors that make players unable to play well consistently is about the absence spectator, it is also a factor for players to be difficult to be consistent in the match and no wonder too, at least there are also a number of different teams playing or their performance is declining playing in this Covid-19 situation.

Everyone will take it differently. It depends if the players in question have insecurity issues because if someone who was sick, gets cured and tested fit to play, I don't see why anyone should worry about the sickness that's already gone?  That's why I said it depends on the individual. Some people take their safety very seriously but I don't really see why this should be a problem.  I believe there were measures set aside before the resumption of the league to ensure the safety of each and every player.

There should also protocol on this, they cannot just accept newly recovered COVID players, there should be timeline because I read in one finding that there are patients that tested positive again after a few weeks, the finding is those are dead COVID virus but we never know if it can infect again, a whole month or 6 weeks with a lot of retests is a good parameter if a player can come back.

Fight against covid are one of the hardest things you could do in your life and it is more risker and all or nothing wage between the life and death and salute to all of the covid survive I help you make a faster recovery. Back to the main topic, I think it depends if they can back to real life because even they are still fully recovered they still are prone on covid and one of the best ways for the meantime is to take rest and enjoy life. You already face the hardest game of your life. It's better to enjoy their life first before wasting to play gambling.

Still, there is a chance that they will play gambling for a while if they want to find out still they have the enjoyment they want to fulfill their satisfaction to play gambling.

Let's say they play gambling after they recovery still there is an impact on them? I think yes. These are the possible things that happen to them while too much exposure to gambling if they are not fully prepared.

• Headache

of course most of them cannot go to the gambling casino and play because most of those are close and now they use online gambling and if you are still experiencing not feeling well there is a chance it will cause a headache.

• Hard on breathing

of course you are coming from the covid and one of the targets of it is the lungs, if you are just playing gambling all day there is a chance you do not have good air circulation.



After the player or the covid survivor experience that nightmare I think they will focus on investment in their health first it is nothing all of your investment if you are already sick or dead. One of the best thing today is being healthy against this virus and just focus later in gambling.[/list]

It can't be denied that players are more concerned with their health, from the back of their minds doubts will circulates thinking the of the possibilities that virus can still spread even doctors already assures that players are already being cured.


Not all players are willing to playback, some are still concerned with all the possibilities this high risk pandemic virus changes everything and without the vaccines it will take time.

I think some players will be agitated with other cleared players no matter what. Fear of covid is really strong and this pandemic gives traumatic experienced to some who have been experienced this. In my opinion, they should not let those players play for the meantime, we all knew that there are reports that some recovered from covid19 still has chance to get infected, however there is a saying that once you have done or surpass covid, antibodies and your body got immune from it. Thats why those reports of second experience is relatively shocking to hear.

Yes it will have a factor if the said infected player will play since I'm sure their opponent will avoid them and afraid to get infected, but for sure there are counteraction will be made for health and safety purposes since im sure the commissioner doesn't want to suspend back the game and safety protocols will be applied.

Yes of course, it's only natural that some players doesn't want to play against a recovered player its in our nature to discriminate especially when a harmful virus is infecting and killing millions.
I guess this will make it hard to predict and bet because we will not see 100% of each individual player gameplays.

A person who has recovered after Covid 19 may have antibodies in his blood but not a virus.

I can understand your concern only in situations where inaccurate tests for Covid conducted by the players did not detect the virus, although in fact it is there. Only in this case I see a problem.
But if we consider an ideal situation where all tests are 100% accurate, then I see no reason for any concern on the part of the team that did not have the virus.

How can people without a virus infect anyone? Or they are still infected and the tests fails, then this is not their problem, but the problem of the doctors.
Or one of them managed to get infected right before the game. I do not see other ways.

I don't know if they still let those players play even though they are fully recovered now. If this will turned bad, the game will be postponed again and will be suspended for another month because they need to check everyone whether they are asymptomatic or not. especially for the NBA games which will resume in the few weeks. I think they won't let those players play because of the risk it might bring to the others and to the association. imagine if someone gets infected by the other recovered player after a few games, I think that would automatically suspended the game again.

Fear of getting infected has done more damage than the actual infections around the world which is going to replicate on the playground as well if someone had corona virus but completely recovered from it still distract the concentration of every players.

I played Basketball specially here in my community game that we really enjoy and also betting to make the game more enjoyable and thrilling.

But Playing with a COVID19 infected person?

Sorry i am not that choosy person but i rather stay away from playing,either  
He will not play or i will go home.

There are many factors why i don't wanna do this but the main reason is i Have my Mother in House and she's Senior citizen in which the most vulnerable in this virus.

The infected person needs to isolate themselves first before they can allow them to play with their teams.
It still too risky for them if they back to play with the teams even if they recover the virus.
We don't know if after they played again, the virus won't attack them again or not because that will depend on how good they can keep healthy.
I am sure that the doctor in the stadium will check all of the teams, including the staff. If they found that some people get infected, they will quarantine that person and not let the game start before the doctor can classify that the situation is safe for every people.

Yes, it could unfortunately affect our betting bro but these players in the NBA or other sports played in developed countries i think they are well informed on the properties of the virus. Information will play a vital role here so that players will have a peace of mind playing against a person who have recovered from COVID-19.

In that case, I know for sure the team will make sure that the recovered covid player is 100% covid free before he/she will play in actual sports. We can't avoid criticisms but with of course the assurance of the team that the person was already negative from the virus, then the game will still procceed and players will have to be open minded about it. I believe there are health protocols for some recovered patients before allowing them to go back from their usual life. As long as the player was tested again before the game will start, there will be no problem at all.

People are always afraid of new and unknown so we have the same situation with this virus too.
 Because of fear people sometimes don't think rationaly.
I think they can play but they have to free their minds and they shouldn't worry for no reason.
However, this is very interesting moment in predictions for matches and its use in gambling, very inovative approach I.must say.

I'm pretty sure they can still play and focus, though the anxiety of doing so would be exceedingly high that it might affect their performance. Contact sports would be a lot different considering that you are literally taking all the hits and quite possibly taking some bodily fluids from your opponents or teammates, so a thorough testing on the players is really a necessity on those conditions. As for casinos, as I've mentioned a lot of times, strict health protocols should be implemented in order for the casino to not be a petri dish of the virus and an outbreak within the facility isn't going to happen.

A lot of ironing out on the current guidelines and protocol must be done to ensure that the resumption of gambling and sports events would not result to another outbreak of the virus.

In what I'm seeing, a person whose infected by the COVID19 will have his own antibodies that will protect him to get reinfected again but still it doesn't mean that he will not get affected again.

There are some cases that an infected person who got recovered got infected again and this can happen too in casinos. It would be better if an infected gambler will not be allowed to enter. Regarding to the question, well I think they will still as long as they know that they are equipped with things that will prevent them from getting infected like masks, alcohol. It would be better though if every spot of the player will be covered with even just a plastic cover just to prevent the transmission and for additional safety too.

You hope to use this for match predictions and betting? Interesting...
Well, it depends on how aware they are about disease spreading in leagues, and how close they are to the leagues.
It could affect their performances and how they play. But I guess if players are too focus on the games, they will often forget that fellow players they are in close contact with were infected... unless they have mastered and learned to avoid or be careful with such players.

As far as I know, before they can say that you fully recovered from the virus, they will repeatedly test you to make sure that you are already negative from the virus. So I think it's already fine and safe playing with other players. But of course, since they just recovered from the virus, they also need to take enough rest to make sure their body can handle playing, so it depends on when did they recover.

I think instead of worrying about playing with recovered patients, the organizers should worry to keep everyone in the event safe to prevent reinfection or new more cases.

According to this article, there is no evidence that those who recovered from this Covid-19 diseases are able to infect other people.

But when we are in a pandemic right now, panic and fear are still there even if the person that you are talking to or having a physical contact with was infected and already recovered from the virus. Maybe, you will think that they can infect you because the rate of transmission of this corona virus is extremely higher and faster than you can imagine.

These people are really unlucky and further studies should be made towards this Covid-19.

That's the reason why, for me, it is still not safe to play sports even if you are competing with someone that recovered from this virus because you don't know if the virus is still there or he is an asymptomatic. That's very risky so as soon as possible, still practice social distancing and postponed those sport activities that requires physical contact between players.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/05/22/861061727/south-korean-study-shows-no-evidence-recovered-covid-patients-can-infect-others

What is happening to this world? Do you think that white boxer will be able to fight against black boxer without calling him a racist every time he hits a black guy?  
This headline reminds me on early 80's, people didn't want to talk with people who have AIDS, we all know why, but do you see a point here? We are falling apart, sinking deeper than ever. Apparently covid situation will have far greater consequences than anyone could imagine.
Fear and misunderstanding, fear distorts perceptions and perceptions affect attitudes and behaviors, misunderstanding arise from ignorance and that breeds fear! Fear will remain the greatest enemy of peace! -Lester B. Parson!


And the ones who survived virus have no fear to get infected again. The ones who didn't will be afraid to not get infected! Psychology says that it can be the opposite from what you say, I would bet on the ones who survived!

Depend upon the players on how they are looking about the matter,There are players that has small amount of afraid in Covid so they will basically play at all time.

But those who are taking this matter seriously?i believe they will Pass in this games and will make themselves safer and covid free.

But i believe that the game administration?they will make sure that all players and staffs are safe.

The virus behaves differently in different persons and football players are not super human they simply are a bit more fit physically than other persons.I would bet on the team which has no Covid players as the team with recovered ones can be an easy target as the players of this team will not be equally fit as the other team players which are covid free.

It depends on his natural fitness. Some players can get back to their highest fitness level in a relatively short time, but some players need more fitness training. It also depends on their symptom, whether it's no symptom, mild, or severe.

In the case of mere influenza, a player can get back in training after five-day rest at home.* So it's safe to dismiss any performance issue if the players got no symptom or mild.


*based on Football Manager

Most likely to happen is that those newly recovered players will not be engaged in playing or going out in public so the chance of playing against a recovered Covid 19 patient is too low to happen. Though, if it happens, I think to gamble with them is like playing normally with other people as the virus could already be sanitized. But for the side of the recovered COVID 19 patient, it's quite awkward as they need to strictly implement a distance and avoid too much interaction with other people.

If I'm in their shoes, not to discriminate the person, but I rather stop playing for 100 percent assurance that I will not get the virus.

I don't think players who had corona virus will pass the fitness level to play on such sports and if they do means they are completely okay now and no need to afraid of getting infection while playing with them.But it may affect other players performance if they are infected and recovered in recent days because we all knows how soon this covid 19 can spread so those players have to quarantine themselves before making into any public place contact to make sure other people feel better while being with them.

Isn't the reinfection stemming from them being infected by someone with Covid? Doesn't that mean that recovered patients can be seen as patients that are cleared of infection? After all, having the name "recovered" means that the Covid-19 should be removed completely from the system. Just based from this, you can safely assume I suppose that there isn't any risk at all in playing with people that have recovered from the Covid-19. This is assuming that the said recovered person has completely "recovered".

Source? Just looked up a bit and from what I could gather, it was basically the same as what the article @TimeTeller quoted that there has been no evidence as of yet, on both sides that is. No evidence of recovered person developing antibodies, and no evidence of a recovered person being reinfected once again.

When some recovers from a disease their body creates antibodies to make them immune from that particular strain, like a particular strain of flu. So people who recovered from coronavirus have antibodies protecting them from SARS-CoV-2 so they cannot get infected by that particular strain again. Still, they should practice social distancing to avoid carrying the virus and infecting another person with it.

If the player is a logical-type of person which more thinks rationally than emotionally then I might say that having a direct contact with a fully recovered covid 19 patient/opponent won't bother him at all.

Well, I don't blame those who want to play safe either since we don't yet have a strong defense against it but still hoping they can fix their mindset. The simple act of staying away from a recovered patient can leave a stigma. It is somehow considered a form of discrimination  (though not intentional) because it makes him feel that he is all alone. Let the compassion in our hearts win above all .

It has been noticed that a virus-free patient who has fully recovered and already been discharged may actually test positive in the next several days. While we can dismiss this as a case of a virus residue being detected, we cannot discount the fact that the understanding of this virus has not yet reached a level which we could be very confident about.

So, I guess, it will probably affect how other players would interact with another player who had once been infected with the virus.

The recovered Covid-19 player can back infected from other people who are a carrier or asymptomatic. But they can prevent that by always take care of their health, and even if they make physical contact with another player who is a carrier.

For a recovered Covid-19 player, they shouldn't play for some time until they can fully recover from Covid-19 because we don't know if they can get infected or not in the next games. I think the sporting event staff already think about that, and if somehow, they get this, they will know what they need to do. And if necessary, perhaps, they will cancel the game for a while until everything is clear.

 
its recovered and virus free so why worry ? you know that worrying will only affect your gameplay , im sure they dont want to loose  . its actually thier advantage and not a disadvantage because thier oponnent were still weak and traumatize from the recent covid virus that hit on their body  but they cant play in a poor condition either because their managers wont allow it  . the match are still going to be tough  so we must bet properly and research both teams  strength and weakneses  .

It was what I'm saying before. There is a chance that a recovered patient can get infected again. That's the reason the management of any sporting event should be careful in assessing the players that was once became infected until a player has been cleared for a long time.

The time period of recovery is important because as I've seen with the news, the medical personnel's always look to that factor. Just a disclaimer, I'm not a medical expert or practitioner and what I have said is based from the news that I've seen with an interview coming from a medical personnel.

Based from this article, there is probability that a recovered covid patient can still be reinfected.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/no-evidence-that-recovered-covid-19-patients-cannot-be-reinfected-who/

So for those managing sports events, they should weigh their decisions when it comes to healthy protocols.
Because a lot are showing asymptomatic cases, one wouldn't know their status if they will not undergo the testing.
In this regard, it is better to subject all the involved persons to testing before they can proceed the event.

Depends how long the player has been recovered. If the player just recovered recently, there will be a huge factor to worry because some cases in different countries from those recovered patients, after wards they've seen to become infected again.

Sports association or management should have implement a rule that a complete recovery within a range of time before allowing a player to play.

First of all, this is not about discrimination. This is about players feeling. The sports covered here are those with physical contact.

We all know that in some sports leagues, some players are being infected with the pandemic virus.

Now that some sports leagues are bound to resume and others are already resumed, do you think it will play a big role in their performance if somehow a team is against a team with recovered Covid-19 players on it? The mindset is still there that even these former Covid-19 players are now cleared and 100%, the worry is still there.

For me, yes. It can play as a factor in my future betting.