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Quote from: dothebeats on October 16, 2021, 05:46:50 AM

Schiff may still be a shill for gold and that wouldn’t change any time soon. He’s so deep into his angst against bitcoin and convinced that it will do nothing for the world and its value will always be nonexistent. As for Roubini, he might be the next Jamie Dimon praising bitcoin one day and cursing it the next. I’m still not convinced that his stance on bitcoin and crypto in general has changed.

Yes, I think I heard of this man and his opinions on Bitcoin were published before by the mainstream media maybe in a desperate attempt to find anything that is faulty with the rising coin back then. Now, that Bitcoin is getting accepted by more and more people and institutions, this man changed the tune from being somehow negative to really positive. Anyway, for me, he does not have any influence at all and should be dismiss as just unnecessary figure in the world of cryptocurrency. We don't a man named as Nouriel Roubini...who sounds like a magician to me than an economist.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 16, 2021, 04:28:02 AM

https://twitter.com/psychedelicbart/status/1447882354576568322

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8 years and 985.61x later,
@nouriel finally capitualted...

I cannot believe it. Nouriel Roubini, one of Bitcoin’s most commited CRITICS has changed his stance against Bitcoin, and has embraced it and has recognized its merits. Will Peter Schiff be next? I believe one of his feet has entered the door. His son owns Bitcoin. Cool

Who's Doctor Roubini is? even if he change his stand for sure it will not create any impact and we don't know his intention on why his decision change. Maybe he has an agenda about flipping back so best not to talk his name since for sure he want free marketing only and became famous on this industry. There are so many clowns already pop up here so I guess we don't new one since they will just create commotion on this space.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 16, 2021, 05:46:50 AM

Schiff may still be a shill for gold and that wouldn’t change any time soon. He’s so deep into his angst against bitcoin and convinced that it will do nothing for the world and its value will always be nonexistent.

It seems to me that many anti bitcoin personalities openly criticize it for the publicity it gives, a lot of people would have never heard about Peter Schiff or the guy in the op if they have not been openly critical about Bitcoin, we saw how Elon Musk dominated crypto news for months due to his critical view of Bitcoin and how Michael Saylor has become renowned for his purchases and positive view.

Most people do things for their personal interest, so I do not much value expert advice or opinion especially if it cannot be verified.

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Schiff has already recognize his defeat against BTC many times before. The strongest and most stupidest one was when he thought Bitcoin was to blame that he didn't back up his wallet, lol. When you get some boomers out here who got zero idea how Bitcoin truly works but still talk crap about it, you know they're gonna fail at some point.

The more BTC grows, the more of these critics will turn from BTC critique to BTC investment. But at the same time, expect new critiques to appear every time Bitcoin surprises the world again.

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Who would forget Dr. Doom? he was voted drama queen of 2018 for his bearish and anti-bitcoin sentiments?

https://twitter.com/spiroseliot/status/1077636512341204994

What made him change his mind? Probably it was a "if you can't beat them, join them attitude".

The last hint though that he maybe softening his stance is this statement from him November 2020.

Nouriel Roubini Admits Bitcoin May Be a Store of Value, Sees Big Revolution in Central Bank Digital Currencies

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t may be a partial store of value because, unlike thousands of other what I call shitcoins, it cannot be so easily debased because there is at least an algorithm that decides how much the supply of bitcoin raises over time.

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It seems to me that Nouriel Roubini is something like an attention whore.
He is desperate for people's attention and tries to stay in the spotlight by making various statements.
I guess that he was a big time BTC FUD guy mostly due to the "China is controlling Bitcoin" type of FUD.
Now,it is clear that China isn't controlling Bitcoin,so suddenly BTC became cool in the eyes of some anti-Bitcoiners.Who's next?Maybe Warren Buffet?

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Quote from: kryptqnick on October 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM

So he's not trustworthy, and he changes his words from time to time to catch the hype, IMO.

I thought everyone had heard of Dr.Doom, because they call him like that since he almost always predicts that something bad will happen - and when he does, they say he's a very smart and intelligent man who understands how the world works better than others. I had a chance to watch a few of his interviews (albeit unrelated to Bitcoin), and I have to admit I wasn’t left under any particular impression.

What I have noticed is that he lives very luxuriously at the expense of what he says, which means that he sells his visions of the doomsday of the economy very lucratively, and bad news seems to sell much better than good news.

If it took a man 10+ years to realize that Bitcoin has value, then he is a really great expert.

AFAIK,Roubini is a die hard fiat money fan and he wants the central banks to keep printing money to pump the demand in the economy.Also,according to him,the governments should spend more,in order to pump the economy.
Typical economy theory created by John Maynard Keynes.Nothing original and nothing groundbreaking.
The previous 2007-2010 global financial crisis was pretty easy to predict.You didn't have to be a genius, in order to see the Wall Street madness and the US Real Estate market insanity back then.

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Quote from: michellee on October 16, 2021, 08:30:08 AM

I am curious what makes him change his mind to believe in bitcoin now.

It’s hard to say whether he changed his mind, or just someone took his statement out of context - but I think more and more of those experts who were previously negative or extremely negative about Bitcoin just don’t want to stay in the group of those who will remain in the minority. If you have been expressing your opinion about something for years, and the facts constantly refute you in what you say - then either you are not intelligent enough to understand, or someone is paying you not to deviate from your views.

Some just need more time to believe, and time has shown that Bitcoin is no Ponzi scheme and a passing trick intended to enrich an individual or a group. Of course, there are those who will continue to say that the whole thing will collapse and that Bitcoin has no value, but maybe in 10 years, they will admit that they were wrong.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 16, 2021, 05:46:50 AM

Schiff may still be a shill for gold

schiff is not a shill for gold.

he wants people to buy it.
translation
he wants to sell his gold and exit gold.

a true hoarder doesnt want people trying to buy it off them. a true hoarder would tell people to go away and stop asking.

remember when boilerroom stock/shares(pump n dump) guy comes around offering you 'deals' on shares.. its because they already bought in and are now looking for buyers so they can sell/exit out

yes schiff will over promise and over commit on something he is ready to escape. thats how things work.
you see it with all these pre-mined crapcoins and altnets. they want others to join in. so that the promoters can exit-out with profit

and yes schiff has targetted the bitcoin market. where he wants them to sell coins for gold(aka give him btc).
and yes schiffs accepts bitcoin via bitpay (pretends he converts to dollars(pfft))

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I am curious what makes him change his mind to believe in bitcoin now. Is that because bitcoin shows power by lift the price from a lower price to a high price and he just realizes that? Where did he found his belief in bitcoin?

I think that will happen to many people out there who do not believe in bitcoin, especially after seeing how bitcoin performs. I hope that many more will believe in bitcoin and will become bitcoiner soon.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on October 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM

So he's not trustworthy, and he changes his words from time to time to catch the hype, IMO.

I thought everyone had heard of Dr.Doom, because they call him like that since he almost always predicts that something bad will happen - and when he does, they say he's a very smart and intelligent man who understands how the world works better than others. I had a chance to watch a few of his interviews (albeit unrelated to Bitcoin), and I have to admit I wasn’t left under any particular impression.

What I have noticed is that he lives very luxuriously at the expense of what he says, which means that he sells his visions of the doomsday of the economy very lucratively, and bad news seems to sell much better than good news.

If it took a man 10+ years to realize that Bitcoin has value, then he is a really great expert.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 16, 2021, 05:57:27 AM

While this sounds like him being bullish on the surface, I wouldn't make conclusions immediately with not enough context. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Nouriel Roubini would suddenly be like "yes, I said that, BUT.. *insert bitcoin fud here*"

Quote from: kryptqnick on October 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM

To be honest, I haven't heard of this guy before, but I can see that he's a serious economist with top-level education,

You're probably not following this space closely enough. Tongue

(which is totally fine btw). He's been a big critic in like 2017.

You’re right, I may be putting it out of context. Although, the person who tweeted that is currently there in that Bitcoin Conference in Dubai where Doctor Doom Roubini gave that talk. I’ll post Roubini’s response if he tweets an explanation.

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While this sounds like him being bullish on the surface, I wouldn't make conclusions immediately with not enough context. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Nouriel Roubini would suddenly be like "yes, I said that, BUT.. *insert bitcoin fud here*"

Quote from: kryptqnick on October 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM

To be honest, I haven't heard of this guy before, but I can see that he's a serious economist with top-level education,

You're probably not following this space closely enough. Tongue

(which is totally fine btw). He's been a big critic in like 2017.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on October 16, 2021, 04:42:04 AM

Bitcoin isn't a hedge against inflation that called it a bubble. So he's not trustworthy, and he changes his words from time to time to catch the hype, IMO.

A hedge against inflation or not, I don't know. It is personal view but the point is

Bitcoin value increases over years.
If you look at the lowest price of Bitcoin over years, it is very impressively growth.

The bullish case for Bitcoin is a very informative article. Newbies who only participate in the crypto market should read it.

The Purchasing power of the US. dollar is a case study but it also represents the fact about fiat, generally. They are all hyper inflated and have values drop over time.

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Schiff may still be a shill for gold and that wouldn’t change any time soon. He’s so deep into his angst against bitcoin and convinced that it will do nothing for the world and its value will always be nonexistent. As for Roubini, he might be the next Jamie Dimon praising bitcoin one day and cursing it the next. I’m still not convinced that his stance on bitcoin and crypto in general has changed.

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To be honest, I haven't heard of this guy before, but I can see that he's a serious economist with top-level education, and his opinion is highly valued in the US. It's nice that he perhaps changed his mind (although I'm now surprised I don't see news about it), but what if he didn't? While looking up info about him, I saw this Forbes article from almost a year ago where he said Bitcoin can be a store of value and is not like shitcoins. He said it when the price was on the rise, and then in February 2021 he said Bitcoin isn't a hedge against inflation that called it a bubble. So he's not trustworthy, and he changes his words from time to time to catch the hype, IMO.

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https://twitter.com/psychedelicbart/status/1447882354576568322

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8 years and 985.61x later,
@nouriel finally capitualted...

I cannot believe it. Nouriel Roubini, one of Bitcoin’s most commited CRITICS has changed his stance against Bitcoin, and has embraced it and has recognized its merits. Will Peter Schiff be next? I believe one of his feet has entered the door. His son owns Bitcoin. Cool

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