does an Android phone wallet exist without the Google Services Framework?

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Quote from: jackg on July 25, 2019, 03:11:05 PM

The huawei L00 (if that's what you're referring to) doesn't really have any experience lost.

Play services aren't disabled as much as I'd like. You can't access the play store by normal methods but that's never an issue as you can use the online one, or pull apks from amazon instead... Although Google still has background management apps running which is annoying.

I don't have the device, so i certainly didn't know how much experience/convenience is lost.

Quote from: jackg on July 25, 2019, 03:11:05 PM

I doubt the open source android is without Google trackers? Maybe oxygen has less if that's publicly released.

I never verify it, but LineageOS doesn't include GApps (not even Google Play Service or Google Package Installer) by default & have good standing among users who cares about privacy.

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Quote from: Dancing_Coin on July 25, 2019, 06:10:05 AM

To avoid Google services try any Chinese gadget (L00 version) and app store
None of Google services are working there due to prohibition

You only switch with whom you're willing to share your personal data/information at cost of convenience provided by google, which is big loss.
The only valid option is use open source ROM/Android distribution without any google application or other intrusive application, such as LineageOS.

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Quote from: harizen on July 12, 2019, 04:20:18 PM

Quote from: alpha_m00 on July 12, 2019, 03:58:06 PM

Thank you the responses

. It looks like both Electrum & Samourai do not require GSF. Great suggestions that I will try out.

Once disabled, you won't be able to update any apps via Playstore obviously. You won't now have a preview of others app as well if a new and updated version has arrived. To solve this, you must be updated and you need an .apk file of the latest version to overwrite the previous one. Sounds hassle indeed.

You can use alternative stores to tackle this problem. Like f-droid, Aurora store, etc.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

The huawei L00 (if that's what you're referring to) doesn't really have any experience lost.

Play services aren't disabled as much as I'd like. You can't access the play store by normal methods but that's never an issue as you can use the online one, or pull apks from amazon instead... Although Google still has background management apps running which is annoying.

I doubt the open source android is without Google trackers? Maybe oxygen has less if that's publicly released.

On jellybean you could virtually disable everything (other than system ui and the homescreen and a couple of other vital apps needed).

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To avoid Google services try any Chinese gadget (L00 version) and app store
None of Google services are working there due to prohibition

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Electrum for android is pretty safe. It's the safest version of electrum imo as it never listed warning messages like the desktop version did.

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I can confirm electrum works.
I once used electrum on an offline android phone as a cold wallet and it signs and transfers QR code properly.
And my old phone was flashed a modified LineageOS without gsf.

BTW: Using electrum may not be secure now as most noobs can't use it in a safe way. It is not electrum's fault though.

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Quote from: alpha_m00 on July 12, 2019, 03:58:06 PM

Thank you the responses

. It looks like both Electrum & Samourai do not require GSF. Great suggestions that I will try out.

Google related services and frameworks only apply to pre-installed apps (installed apps that you will see upon opening a brand new phone for the first time), Google apps (GAPPS) and to some number of apps (not literally all apps in Google play). Like for example, most of the online games, it needs Google Play Services. The framework also covers most of the Android service components of the device.

Since your concern is about an app, you can test any app if they will work without the framework or Google Play Services. Just disable all the Google related services at the Settings > Apps (vary per Phone but easy to locate) since you can't remove or uninstall it unrooted then just install your preferred app.

Once disabled, you won't be able to update any apps via Playstore obviously. You won't now have a preview of others app as well if a new and updated version has arrived. To solve this, you must be updated and you need an .apk file of the latest version to overwrite the previous one. Sounds hassle indeed.

Concern about privacy? Or worried that Google might collect data?

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Thank you the responses

. It looks like both Electrum & Samourai do not require GSF. Great suggestions that I will try out.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

I don't know if electrum requires it?
I had to uninstall Google play services because it was too big for my old phone to handle and I think I ran electrum on it (not sure if it's still the same though).

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I can't seem to find an Android phone wallet that does not require the use of Google Services Framework. I figured this would be the correct place to ask. Please help

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