Topic: Does anyone in this society still care about the truth? (Read 373 times)

You are right, there are people who are familiar with lie they don't even see it as something bad anymore they lie with every opportunity they see, this set of people started this kind of attitude years back and it has entered there DNA so stopping it will be difficult if not impossible, I have a friend that is so familiar with lying he lie in every situation and don't even see it as a big deal, Because of his lying attitude I don't trust him again and known of his family members believes anything he says anymore even when he says the truth they think his lying and that has really affected his life but still he just can't stop lying.
Lying causes a lot of things damage to us and it can even cause us to lose important things in our life for example if you are known to be a lier no body will like to do business with you or even trade with you, you may even get sacked from your job and because of your constant lying attitude even when you are in a big problem and you call for help no body will take it serious because everyone will believe you are lying, being honest is very important in our life it help us become successful every one will want to do business with you or trade with you, honestly will make a lot of people to trust you.
Lying will bring you more harm than good.

Truth is a very essential value that is needed to strive in our society. Although we might see people in the society derailing or not wanting to speak the truth, stand up for the truth and practicing lies , we see that truth will still stand out no matter how people might try to hide it.
Most people in the society  in all areas of work of life still care about the truth and they speak and stand for the truth no matter what it cost them.

I agree with you, even if we must lie in some situations, we should do so for the better. If lying is the only way to protect ourselves, we can do so; however, we shouldn't lie to harm someone because there are some people who don't care about the area in which they are lying, regardless of whether it will cause harm or not. Kids are the only ones who can always speak the truth these days; no matter how much secret you try to keep with your younger ones, know that the truth has already reached the ears of those who do not deserve to hear it.


In today's society, we all are lying in one way or another. Do you believe that we might throw our votes if individuals in government positions told us the truth right from the start of the election? Not at all, which is why they must use a lot of fake promises in order to get the position they want. In some fields, you have to lie before you can succeed, the world has changed, and now there are more dishonest individuals than honest ones.

When the people in power does not care about the truth and the impact of the absence of truth on the life of the people they are leading, it has become th root cause of societal issues and crisis in families, businesses, education and other public sectors that deal directly with the people. Building a society on lies has a far reaching impact the people and their personal growth
Lies are direct tools for manipulating people that's why the politicians don't stop false stories when looking for people's vote and trust during elections. People should embrace and promote room for critical thinking and exposure to media literacy

There are actually few honest people amongst us, but the dishonest ones are just do much that we cannot feel the impacts these good ones make. Even in the political setting,  I do believe that their are some politicians who sincerely want to deliver to the people all they promised the people, but the channels with which these promises will get to the people are blocked or hijacked by the bad ones. No one now is really interested in the collective welfare of everyone, they are interesting in themselves alone and these is why bad politicians and bad people in authority always have the opportunity to bribe the people and make them suffer afterwards. The society loves lies now, so speaking the truth is now an act only for heroes and courageous people who would expect nothing in return.

No. look at that XRP scam.

In the present in the society, people are so attached to their own interests that they do not know how to give up the minimum. Not only interests, there are too many human they have needs and greed. If someone has more wealth he need more he will not be satisfied. He will try more to get more. No law is possible to improve from this situation. What is needed here is a sense of values ​​and honesty. If people were more focused on their morality instead of being attached to money, then such a chaotic situation would not have been created in the society.

Today, the trend of removing those who are truthful or give priority to truth as liars has started. When everything is filled with such fakes, there is no place for anything good. That is why the influence of lies in the society is increasing. To get out of this situation, we first have to develop the humanity for sacrifice. We have to give up greed and satisfy ourselves with a little.

In today's world, letting out the truth to public consumption as it is can be detrimental to the individual's career in the industry or field. You will be termed unprofessional and unethical with working principle if you endeavour to be honest and truthful about issues and situations to public consumption. People get fear of attack from those in high and mighty places and by that they choose to play in the tune of those who pays the piper. If we're to be frank, the society we live in has been damaged.

Easier said than done indeed. People fear to speak the truth for a lot of reasons. Imagine where you are faced with threat to your family's lives should you want to say the truth on an issue that can bring down a gang of disturbing syndicate in the society. I wonder who will intentionally want to risk the lives of their family members regardless...

Everyone supports honesty and truthfulness in words, but in reality it is not reflected at all. If you are honest and truthful, you will lack enemies. You will have no friends, your neighbors will not like you, your colleagues or classmates will not have a good relationship with you. Because our society is full of lies and dishonesty. If you go to spread the message of honesty and truth among dishonest people, then you are putting yourself in danger. From the point of view of morality, we should stand against these dangers with honesty, but in reality no one will dare to take such a risk. In today's world, if you are dishonest, your risk is low, but if you are honest, you will constantly be discriminated against. Honesty is the most valuable asset, but nowadays finding an honest person is the most difficult task.

this sad reality is what almost everyone that has at one point or the other worked in a public establishment has faced where they try to kill your good morals because most of the organization value being truthful.

i still remember doing my academic industrial attachment with a firm and my boss telling me that if i don't want to tell some lies to the customers that i better not answer any question i am being asked. it is frustrating to note that the truth no longer has value and even when you are being truthful, people already assume that you are lying. if you are one that believes in good moral and you have the means to, starting a business that are oversee can be a way of encouraging such value in your own little circle. just shining your little in your own little corner can at least help to show others that it is possible to do the right things in the means of a perverse world.

Note that all the truth in the forum is found in its pages... even when it is contradictory.

Regardless of what people will take you for,being truthful will not just make you feel good but it will also help you to be different from the people who hate the truth and are against people who are truthful. The world is ready to kill truthful people because of the evils they hide and they become angry when they see anyone speaking out about what they have done but then it is important we also stand out against evil people and be vigilant not to be killed in speaking out against evil. The truth is the greatest weapon against oppressors.

Being truthful comes with suffer and hatred by people, but that doesn't mean that you will be killed because we need truthful and honest people to make the world a better place. It's good that we don't become liars because we are scared of what people would say or do to us. If not we will become cowards. The wicked people hates the truth.

When you speak truth we shut the internet, you fool.
https://x.com/i/status/1873082864620990674
One visit from that Gates snake was enough.



Second that lying illegal Elon came to the US on a J-1 visa, scamming his way around that student visa, violated his terms of work and now implemting credit score algorithms into programs. As he faild to enroll in classes his F-1 visa was out of status, period.
Does some kind of fraud exist he dind not use by now, swindler of the highest caliber.

You are right, sometimes you have to lie to succeed in some things because if you don't it will be difficult to escape the problem, Lying is. It is good because it can also affect some people around you and it will be very difficult for someone to trust you, if we want to lie we should first think about what will happen after we lie because there is some lie that if you do it will affect you or people that are close to you.

If you look at these days people lie to others to achieve their goals including our leaders even if they want to government, they can lie and also swear that will do many things that will people understand and choose and it later affects them because they did not what will happen, to lie is not that bad but that doesn't mean that if we know the truth we should not say, we should know that it also affects people.

There is this popular saying, "only the truth can set you free". But now the truth you told can even cause you your life. We are living in a society now that you dignity, sinserity and truthfulness does not count, cause people worship money more than anything. The masses wouldn't be going through this hash economy if our leader has be telling us the truth because they know that no body can challenge them. Thus, the society value lie more than the truth because of money.

To be sincere with you, truth is always a very essential tools to demonstrate as it's the only thing to save you when there seems to be allegations in any areas of your endeavors, only the politicians who doesn't like truth but in any other sectors like I know only the truth can help you out because there is always a challenging moments at the work place which I know lying can't save you.

You are not giving evidence that people may believe in the truth. You are just trying to make people question their suspicions which is rather dishonest since you yourself do not care at all about the truth. The only thing you want to do is defend the evil people at universities who promote violence against me. This is because you are a liar and a truly evil person. And as a result, when laboratories are ready to make superbacteria that will kill us all, I will do nothing to stop this. I have been the only entity advocating for a protocol to prevent this, but I decided to stop that because I value the life of superbacteria more than the life of humans.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You will have to give an example of those industries and fields you are talking about in which the truth is not welcome, otherwise I am afraid this is rather a wide generalization of whatever society you live in.
Also, keep in mind that many people tend to follow the narrative which is sell to them by the media or even influencers who have jumped on the landscape of politics, what your truth is, may not be truth for others.
In the case of my country, which is a kleptocracy, saying the truth in the wrong contexts could lead to one being throw into jail, but that does not apply to the rest of the countries in this hemisphere.

Though, you do good on worrying about the status of truth and whether it will matter in the incoming AI populated planet, when we won't be able to believe anything we see on screens.

I agree with you op it's true we live in a society where truth is not appreciated. People tend to prefer polished truth, half truth or lies. It is so sad that the more you try to share the truth with people the more it you tend to lose people. Currently professions  makes it a norm to tell lies. You meet someone who will claim to know a skill and after they have finished hyping themselves about their skill they find to difficult to deliver and even if they do the standard falls below average.

No matter where the masses stand as regards the truth for me I will always stand for the truth. I rather say the truth and lose fake friends than stick with people who will choose lies over truth. This has in turn reduced the level of trust people have got each other and everyone is conscious of how the associate with people which is never meant to be so.

1. Politicians
2. Car salesmen
3. Lawyers

Three professions where lying has been elevated to a form of high art.

Sometimes their are some situations we may found ourselves we have no options than to lie, it is normal people would lie to protect themselves but it doesn't make any sense when people sees lies as a normal lifestyle, with such behaviour it means one has been able to build reputation with lies. Lies should never be habit or lifestyle because it has it consequences.  People who take it as a lifestyle may think they are doing the right thing because of the favour that is gained from it. One thing about lie is that it can't be hidden forever , their will be a time that it will be exposed.

Lots of people care about the truth. The truth is that this life will be gone for most people before they reach 100-y-o. The truth is, this world and universe are going down.

The people who go to Bible churches and who are trusting in Jesus know this. They are trusting that Jesus-truth will raise them from the dead at the last day... the Day of Judgment. Any other truth is either not so important, or is total BS.

So, what industry does this fit into? The religious industry. Learning the history of the religious industry shows that this truth is truth.

To extend my post above.

A thought exercise aimed especially at those who claim to be more truthful than all the other liars.

3 newborn babies lives are at risk, to save them you have to be interviewed on the local news station where you must tell a lie to all 3million viewers

do you LIE to 3million people to save 3 lives?

If you think this lie is OK... then before you call other people liars you might want to first seek their circumstance and motivations...

so much for the truth being essential...

It's so terrible to find out in today's world that many people prefer to tell lies more than the truth. People now see lies as a common thing to say for their bad tracks to be covered, for others to think highly of them, and to be liked. Nobody wants to hear or be told the truth again because the truth pierces like an arrow when told about your wrongdoings that should be corrected.

I think it's those who fear rejection or punishment, insecurity, and low self-esteem who are fond of lying. They lie to protect other people's feelings and to avoid conflicts in conversations. That makes it hard not to be told lies by people because they want to appear cool and lovely while they are not.

The truth hurts, but the wise few will still accept the fact.

As for the masses... many people don't like to hear truth because they are emotionally driven + emotionally biased(not logically), they can actually see the truth but their bias wont let them agree with it... I guess those type are also liars.

Dont waste your time trying to educate leftwing idiots, even if you prove the truth to them their habitual emotional behavior will override it.

Instead you can rejoice knowing that in the end... the chickens do come home to roost.

Now as for the people in the thread saying "honesty is required and to be truthful etc"... Sorry but I don't think most of you could even handle/accept the truth... you claim honesty is essential and to be truthful,  but do you know the truth is misogynistic, racist, and the rest of it? Now what? do your emotions & bias kick in and you think "well this part of the truth shouldn't be allowed"... sorry to tell you it doesn't work like that... you are no different to the people you claim are untruthful. you catch my drift...(you do, but wont want to admit it)

With that being said, perhaps now you take back your "honesty is essential"?

Its not a test question, im pointing out that even those who think they are more truthful than the other... eventually fall short to lies & bias themselves, usually when the truth hurts.

An example - if you think everybody is equal then you are either delusional or a liar... its a FACT we are not. does it hurt your little emotions? Awwwww...

Anyway, these type of questions ends up with others getting emotionally butt-hurt, so i wont participate any further.

Most people are incapable of telling the truth because they have little to no light in them.
To speak the truth is to say things exactly as they are. You will need to be able to see clearly to say things exactly as they are. It's OK to say what you know or see without calling it truth.

There are people who deliberately lie or are habitual liars.

We live in a time people claim there aren't any truths. Everything depends on your point of view. What can be the true for you, may not be the true for me. That is moral relativism, fought back by philosophers since the ancient Greece, where adepts of relativism where called sophists, therefore not considered genuine philosophers, who had as main objective the search for the truth.

Relativism has been always present in this world in some proportion, as we can see through history, but I think in the current level it has reached, it's something inedit and unique in history. We live between extremes, and truth isn't in any of those extremes.

Truth requires sensitivity to be reached, and sensitivity is definitely a non present trait in modern society. People are driven by charlatans in every different fields and sectors: media, politics, medicine, education, entrepreneurship and so on...

I'm sure there are few people who still care about the truth right now, but they aren't given voice by the virtual algorithm, neither by the ones in charge of it.

Yes, being truthful can make you feel like the black sheep in an organization. But honesty is essential, even if it means standing out. Everywhere you look, there's corruption, lies, and hate coming from leadership to the common man.

You have the power to choose how you want to conduct yourself. If you have the choice to be nice, be good, and be truthful, then take that choice. Don't follow the crowd just because everyone else is doing it. Stick to your values, even if it means being different.

You might be impacting someone who's watching you, even if you don't know it. So, make the right choice and create a positive rapport. Don't give up on your truthful nature.

Easier said than done. Like you, would you stand up and publicly support the fired policewoman in your country? Or would you choose to stay silent for fear of being implicated and just whine on social media?

Our society has changed and what we should do is adapt so as not to be eliminated or left behind, not try to fight it. I am not saying that we should defend evil and lies, but let's look at the situation and find a suitable solution in each specific case so that it does not affect us. Because we still have relatives, wives and children...so before doing anything we have to consider carefully because not only ourselves but also our relatives will be affected. They are innocent and did nothing wrong, don't let our impulsiveness ruin their lives.

Good to see the police officer only was sacked, not like the staff in oil company. If people want to work in honesty, they should move to first world countries where they have whistleblower protection.

I think the politicians are in danger because with technology, many citizen are now more clever and know if they're just talking shit. In my place, the citizen are keep trying to fight with the politicians, we might see a great evolution in the future.

Don't count me in.

I believe that there are as many truthful people in this world as there are liers, although I can't deny that there are more lies than truth anywhere you go. It is said that truth is bitter and it hurts while lies are sooting to the ear so people tend to believe lies more so that they can feel good but they soon realize that it doesn't last. This is why political leaders are taking advantage of the people that they rule because they know that the masses can't handle the truth about how they embezzle money so it's easier to tell the citizens lies to keep them happy while stealing from them. I have observed that sincere people don't have easy rides when they're in the helm of affairs in their company or country, the wicked and liers will always want to pull them down, it is not easy to stay truthful at everytime but it's the right thing to do.

Priceless virtues like integrity and truth are not cherished in society anymore. People now place more attention on money and materialism. Most people no longer care if your wealth is from lies and other immoral behavior. In some organizations, you might face problems if you are truthful. There are times you will be forced to twist facts because your coworkers might see telling the truth as a betrayal.

A police officer in my country was sacked because she was brave enough to expose some illegal activities going on in the force. Another staff in an oil company was killed because he exposed how the company was stealing from the country. Since society celebrates money more than morals, politicians are having a free day because only few people can challenge them.

But we have to keep embracing and promoting truthfulness, regardless of what it will cost us.

Lying for the good, as they say. Sometimes it really helps.

In many industries and fields, speaking the truth isn't well-received because lies align with the beliefs of the masses and serve the interests of those in power.