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Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 23, 2019, 01:01:30 PM

Most of the hacking and security related PDF sold is outdated and no longer relevant, it is public knowledge mixed with common sense or some combination of other junk. Only material that is not available for free after googling is some anarchist literature that might be hard to find in real world libraries.

This reminded me of the war between NSA and the cypherpunk John Gilmore over the writings of William Friedman, the father of American cryptography: NSA wanted to ban all Friedman's work, while Gilmore did his best to reveal these papers; in the end, the outcome was a trial in a Court of Law and Gilmore almost faced 10 years of prison. I will write soon a topic about this, as the subject is very interesting.

Fortunately, now the information is available on Internet, although some times it has to be searched deep inside the Deep Web.

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Quote from: eddie13 on December 19, 2019, 01:22:56 AM

Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 19, 2019, 01:15:00 AM

What makes news source reputable? Even largest news agencies and sites post a sensationalist bullshit written by someone who is not an expert on the subject. Ask me. I have been 15+ years in internet underground. I seen everything. Warez FTP sites with TBs of scene releases. Botnet IRC control channels with tens of thousands of active clients. Most famous clearnet hacking forums as well as forums in .onion Marketplaces in Tor and their administrative panels or databases with sales and messages. Also 95% of murderers on those marketplaces were fakes, who will ask for money and not deliver. There was one exception who used escrow and was verified as legit. But it was one legit from hundreds of scammers.

But I never seen neither Marianas web, red rooms, .closed domains or something other.

Do tell more..

The only things I have ever found interesting on the darknet was reading alphabay forums and some interesting sources of reading material like .pdf rare books..
No other .onion forums/chans I have ever found were worth a shit for anything..

Most of the hacking and security related PDF sold is outdated and no longer relevant, it is public knowledge mixed with common sense or some combination of other junk. Only material that is not available for free after googling is some anarchist literature that might be hard to find in real world libraries.

It is myth that deep web contains unseen treasures and mind blowing stuff. Only thing deep web is good for is censorship resistance and anonymity. It is like normal internet was in early days.

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Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 19, 2019, 01:15:00 AM

What makes news source reputable? Even largest news agencies and sites post a sensationalist bullshit written by someone who is not an expert on the subject. Ask me. I have been 15+ years in internet underground. I seen everything. Warez FTP sites with TBs of scene releases. Botnet IRC control channels with tens of thousands of active clients. Most famous clearnet hacking forums as well as forums in .onion Marketplaces in Tor and their administrative panels or databases with sales and messages. Also 95% of murderers on those marketplaces were fakes, who will ask for money and not deliver. There was one exception who used escrow and was verified as legit. But it was one legit from hundreds of scammers.

But I never seen neither Marianas web, red rooms, .closed domains or something other.

Do tell more..

The only things I have ever found interesting on the darknet was reading alphabay forums and some interesting sources of reading material like .pdf rare books..
No other .onion forums/chans I have ever found were worth a shit for anything..

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Quote from: BADecker on December 17, 2019, 08:30:04 PM

That's the Marianas Trench, not the Mariana Web. Cool

Actually, it is Mariana Web

Mariana Trench is the name of the deepest location on Earth, located in the Pacific Ocean.
Mariana Web is a name invented on the Internet, representing a deep level of Deep Web (maybe the deepest, although it is not certain it exists; But this is the difference between Mariana Trench and Web).

Quote from: CristianOff on December 17, 2019, 06:46:00 PM

I finished my sendable merits but this ^^^
This is gold.

Hehe, no worries, thanks for the sincere appreciation

The subject is very interesting for me as well, although I can't say that I really believe in Mariana Web's existence...

Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 17, 2019, 03:48:03 PM

It is hoax to make fun of newbies. Mariana web does not exist. Various closed forums on Tor hidden services and boards on Frost client running on top of Freenet is as deep as it goes.

To clarify more the Red rooms does not exist. There is no real life streaming of torture or murders on deep web.

Most likely, Mariana Web doesn't exist... However, about the existence of red rooms... I tend to believe there are some, from time to time. I remember I saw on a reputable site an article about some real red rooms. I can't remember well, unfortunately, otherwise I would have posted the link here. And, after all, if you can hire rackets on Deep Web (I remember such ads of murderers were posted also on Silk Road; I hope I'm not mistaken here), there are chance of real red rooms as well. About snuff movies I can't say anything...but who knows?!

What makes news source reputable? Even largest news agencies and sites post a sensationalist bullshit written by someone who is not an expert on the subject. Ask me. I have been 15+ years in internet underground. I seen everything. Warez FTP sites with TBs of scene releases. Botnet IRC control channels with tens of thousands of active clients. Most famous clearnet hacking forums as well as forums in .onion Marketplaces in Tor and their administrative panels or databases with sales and messages. Also 95% of murderers on those marketplaces were fakes, who will ask for money and not deliver. There was one exception who used escrow and was verified as legit. But it was one legit from hundreds of scammers.

But I never seen neither Marianas web, red rooms, .closed domains or something other.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 17, 2019, 08:30:04 PM

That's the Marianas Trench, not the Mariana Web. Cool

Actually, it is Mariana Web

Mariana Trench is the name of the deepest location on Earth, located in the Pacific Ocean.
Mariana Web is a name invented on the Internet, representing a deep level of Deep Web (maybe the deepest, although it is not certain it exists; But this is the difference between Mariana Trench and Web).

Quote from: CristianOff on December 17, 2019, 06:46:00 PM

I finished my sendable merits but this ^^^
This is gold.

Hehe, no worries, thanks for the sincere appreciation

The subject is very interesting for me as well, although I can't say that I really believe in Mariana Web's existence...

Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 17, 2019, 03:48:03 PM

It is hoax to make fun of newbies. Mariana web does not exist. Various closed forums on Tor hidden services and boards on Frost client running on top of Freenet is as deep as it goes.

To clarify more the Red rooms does not exist. There is no real life streaming of torture or murders on deep web.

Most likely, Mariana Web doesn't exist... However, about the existence of red rooms... I tend to believe there are some, from time to time. I remember I saw on a reputable site an article about some real red rooms. I can't remember well, unfortunately, otherwise I would have posted the link here. And, after all, if you can hire rackets on Deep Web (I remember such ads of murderers were posted also on Silk Road; I hope I'm not mistaken here), there are chance of real red rooms as well. About snuff movies I can't say anything...but who knows?!

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That's the Marianas Trench, not the Mariana Web. Cool

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I think that pic is basically a 4chan joke meme, but their are some interesting things on the darknet..
Subscribing and merited..

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Quote from: MysteryMiner on December 17, 2019, 03:48:03 PM

It is hoax to make fun of newbies. Mariana web does not exist. Various closed forums on Tor hidden services and boards on Frost client running on top of Freenet is as deep as it goes.

To clarify more the Red rooms does not exist. There is no real life streaming of torture or murders on deep web. There is some occasional streaming of murders on Facebook live or Periscope but I will not call Facebook a darknet. The darknet also is not multi million industry of child porn sale. Most child porn are available to everyone for free on Freenet. Some retards try to resell freely available child porn on Tor services or record themselves fuking own kids.

Do not listen to government or feminturd bullshit.

I finished my sendable merits but this ^^^
This is gold. As a person involved in Ethical Hacking & Cybersecurity, I get to know so many individuals involved in digital
forensics on deep web, yet it is not as bad as people think (keep in mind bad stuff still happens there) .

On the Freenet it's much more difficult to find illicit activities, this because there is no server side processing or databases. You may still find CP on Freenet as my friend above said,
however the community is likely to complain and maybe all links leading there will be obfuscated.

If you want to learn more about freenet listen to Aaron Jone's speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu9gM3_gIfM&list=PLaVOO-BHQYREFho-Vak2NeBOuaLB153e_&index=10

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It is hoax to make fun of newbies. Mariana web does not exist. Various closed forums on Tor hidden services and boards on Frost client running on top of Freenet is as deep as it goes.

To clarify more the Red rooms does not exist. There is no real life streaming of torture or murders on deep web. There is some occasional streaming of murders on Facebook live or Periscope but I will not call Facebook a darknet. The darknet also is not multi million industry of child porn sale. Most child porn are available to everyone for free on Freenet. Some retards try to resell freely available child porn on Tor services or record themselves fuking own kids.

Do not listen to government or feminturd bullshit.

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It probably exists, the network is so wide that the possibilities of any number of websites that we believe are unreal are extensive. In fact, I think the best way to check it is for someone to access DW and check it for themselves.

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I don't know how many of you heard about the deep web levels, but I'm sure that at least some of them know what I'm talking about.
It is about this picture, which I used to think it is a joke, but after a while I asked myself "what if?".

What if Mariana Web really exists?

And also, what could possibly mean "Polymeric falcighol derivation"? All I could find about this term is stated here, but the information is still low.

I realize that if Mariana Web (or the deeper levels, as on some sites appear also more levels under Mariana Web) really exist, nobody with access there would like to offer the information regarding how to access it on the surface web. However, I'm curious what other members from this forum think about this subject, as I observed it wasn't discussed before

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