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Topic: Donetsk is under hard bombing. The face of Ethnic Cleansing. (Read 2602 times)

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You'll have to ask Putin. They normally lived in Ukraine until Putin's mercenaries are not staged provocations and not set them against the Ukrainians. Let this situation bother Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgVYFlz-ziU

Ohh, poor maniacs.

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-Mыкoлa, пoйдeм мocкaлeй бить!
-A ecли oни нac?
 -A нac тo зa шo?!

Mercenaries are payd some $ 1500 at Day , i see no such people around.

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Almost all the people there are alcoholics, pensioners and former prisoners.

WOW
This is a reason to kill them all?
You'll have to ask Putin. They normally lived in Ukraine until Putin's mercenaries are not staged provocations and not set them against the Ukrainians. Let this situation bother Putin.
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Almost all the people there are alcoholics, pensioners and former prisoners.

WOW
This is a reason to kill them all?
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Putin should send peace keeping forces to end this massacre once and for all.

That would have been the best solution. But it seems to me that Putin is not much bothered about Donbass. He does not want the Donbass in Russia. The region is dominated by pensioners, with very few young people.
Why Putin Donbass? Almost all the people there are alcoholics, pensioners and former prisoners. Even the war destroyed infrastructure. No, Putin needed a stone around the neck of Ukraine. Not going to work.
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Putin should send peace keeping forces to end this massacre once and for all.

That would have been the best solution. But it seems to me that Putin is not much bothered about Donbass. He does not want the Donbass in Russia. The region is dominated by pensioners, with very few young people.
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Repossession by ethnic Serbs of housing that once belonged to them continued.

On May 13, parliament adopted changes to the act on areas of special state concern
(war-affected areas), under which the government would assume the punitive
mandate of the owner to pay illegal occupants-- predominantly ethnic Croats --
who seek to recover their so-called “unsolicited” investment (e.g. property
improvements made by the occupants). The measure aimed to speed up resolution
of these cases and thus to avoid the auction and sale of these properties to
compensate the illegal occupants. Auctions were frequent in the past because
many owners were unable to pay for the “unsolicited” investment. The law also
allows for state-owned properties to be donated to these illegal occupants of
privately owned property. Recipients of these donations have largely been Croat
settlers from Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo. According to UNHCR, thus
far no property has ever been donated to an ethnic Serb. Of the 19,280 private
properties registered as occupied, 19,267 have been repossessed by their lawful
owners. Private property has not been returned in 13 “unsolicited investment
cases” still pending before the courts.
In September the government for the first time acted under the new law when it
decided to assume the owner’s role in the case of an ethnic Serb property owner,
Milica Miladinovic. However, this owner rejected the settlement, finding it unfair.
In this case, which has been in the public eye for years, the municipal court in
Zlatar ordered an auction to be held in August. However, in September the
government requested that the court become a party in the procedure and assume
the obligation to repay the temporary occupant. The court’s decision was still
pending at the end of the year.

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/186551.pdf

This is state.gov about the issue of property.
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How long are we going to keep this up?

I'll post another lengthy reply when I get on my laptop
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Don't to waste time on Serbian sources

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The plundering of Serb property and random killings of elderly Serb civilians that took place in the immediate aftermath of the offensive
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-croatia-anniversary-serbia-idUSKCN0QA1MS20150805

This is Reuters.

I need time to find the Croatian Side admissions on this argument.

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"Oluja" forced 200,000 Serbs to flee from the advancing Croatian army and for the most part, never to return.
 Several international courts consider this to be ethnic cleansing.
http://www.dw.com/en/anniversary-of-operation-storm-the-crimes-others-committed/a-18624692

This is dw.com

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About what for crimes they are talking? Uhh?

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Putin should send peace keeping forces to end this massacre once and for all.
Putin did not have to! He is the Hitler of our time. Putin himself creates provocations, and then pretend that solves the problem. Russia is the aggressor! On the contrary, we need to send troops to destroy Putin-Hitler.
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Putin should send peace keeping forces to end this massacre once and for all.
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What they have in mind on the last page of this text?

REQUESTING payout of foreign currency and domestic savings
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/courrier_officiel/arrivee/2011/EP-PE_LTA(2011)006906(PAR2)_EN.pdf

Link claims they require 3.5 million DEM from Jugobanka
This is the successor of Jugobanka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBM_Banka

It was never associated with Croatia
It's a Serbian bank

Croatian goverment paid out its own citizens from its own money
Not Serbia

What a pile of bullshit

I'v seen they require compensation for not participating in privatization
They weren't here to be able to purchase stocks so they want compensation?
This document is absurd

Don't to waste time on Serbian sources
There is only 1/10 non chetnik Serbs in Serbia, which are good, awesome people
But chetniks... You have a 10% chance of reading something legitimate.
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What they have in mind on the last page of this text?

REQUESTING payout of foreign currency and domestic savings
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/courrier_officiel/arrivee/2011/EP-PE_LTA(2011)006906(PAR2)_EN.pdf
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Money Restitution for what?

The Money, that this people have in Banks of Croatia.

Dude, Croatia has no domestic banks what the fuck are you talking about.
Only one which was founded in 1991. and 1000000% certain Serbs didn't deposit in a bank with a Croatian prefix in 1991.
Are you talking about Ljubljana bank?

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Money Restitution for what?

The Money, that this people have in Banks of Croatia.
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To date, the government has renovated about 150 thousand housing units destroyed during the war, at the cost of about 17 billion kuna, 2.3 billion euros.

Do You call the Etnic Cleansing as War or what is the point?
The text, have many requests, one of them is Money Restitution.

But You flood this question with other stuff.

Money Restitution for what?

Serbian refugees will not be treated better than any other refugee either Croat, Hungar, Czech, Hebrew, Bosniak or whatever

Do you think people of Vukovar got money restitution?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayciR0OHJC8&t

For me Kosovo is part of Yugoslavia but not of Serbia. I think they could reconcile if the policy did not make enmity between peoples. When the post-war wounds have healed and the communication between neighbors to improve .

If Serbs didn't go bonanza with ethnical cleansing they would most definitely hold Kosovo today

After all their rampage in Croatia, in Bosnia
They start it all over again in Kosovo

Ofcourse the western world reacted and it created an eternal ally in Kosovo
Because of Serbian megalomania that is still active today I will support Kosovo in all its efforts to keep independance since they would not be safe inside the Chetnik led Serbia

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Oh, yeah, sexcam or whatever your name is
What about the resettlement of Croats in Serbia?
An area which wasn't war infected?
1961. 250 000 Croats in Serbia (mostly in Vojvodina)
2017. 50 000 Croats in Serbia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Croats_in_Serbia_during_the_Croatian_War_of_Independence
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/SERBIA945.PDF
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-04-14/news/9904140104_1_bosnian-croatian-serb-orthodox
http://www.csmonitor.com/1992/0720/20031.html

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Milan Pivsic, was murdered for his house.
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"I was given three days to leave my home or I would be killed," Mr. Fumic said. "That is why I decided to leave."
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"We were expelled from here," Marco Fumic, who is half Serb and half Croat, said last week as he watched the contents of his small moldmaking shop being loaded onto a truck
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"There are now only about 150 to 200 Croats. Most of the young people have moved out. Mostly only old people are left," he said. "Between 500 and 600 to 1,000 Serbs have come in."
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"Death to the Ustashi Priest
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"They were throwing bricks into our yard. In the end, I escaped through the garden to the police station.
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"Those people were trying to get us out. They brought a contract and told me to sign.

They even renamed Hrtkovci to Srbislavci
Even today Bunjevci get books on cyrillic and Serbian and are treated as they're not Croats
Croat and Bosniak journalists in Vojvodina get beaten up with no reactions
That's Serbia my friend
You need to switch sides and realize who's the oppressor and who's the one being oppressed
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It reminds me of Russian actions.

WOW, is Kosovo part of Serbia or not, in the mapping of UN?

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/serbia.pdf
For me Kosovo is part of Yugoslavia but not of Serbia. I think they could reconcile if the policy did not make enmity between peoples. When the post-war wounds have healed and the communication between neighbors to improve .
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It reminds me of Russian actions.

WOW, is Kosovo part of Serbia or not, in the mapping of UN?

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/serbia.pdf
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and secondly, you can't know what caused such a reaction

WOW.
I know perfectly What is the origin of such action - the Ethnic Hate.
If You have no idea about - make a trip here.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kosovska+Mitrovica/@42.8778142,20.8202245,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x135345063679ba21:0xc24c0fe075e868e2!8m2!3d42.8913909!4d20.8659995

This?
http://www.dw.com/en/serbia-sends-provocative-train-to-kosovo/a-37133573

I'm really getting tired of Serbs provoking everyone and then pretending to be victims
It reminds me of Russian actions. Probably the Serbs were taught Russian. Perhaps now is not the end of history and in the future this conflict will resume. Russian is always good when there is a war. There is something to write off the responsibility for the devastation. So too do the Serbs.
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I'm really getting tired of Serbs provoking everyone and then pretending to be victims

This is so evident, that You are a cheap clown affected by Ethnic Hate.
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To date, the government has renovated about 150 thousand housing units destroyed during the war, at the cost of about 17 billion kuna, 2.3 billion euros.

Do You call the Etnic Cleansing as War or what is the point?
The text, have many requests, one of them is Money Restitution.

But You flood this question with other stuff.
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and secondly, you can't know what caused such a reaction

WOW.
I know perfectly What is the origin of such action - the Ethnic Hate.
If You have no idea about - make a trip here.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kosovska+Mitrovica/@42.8778142,20.8202245,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x135345063679ba21:0xc24c0fe075e868e2!8m2!3d42.8913909!4d20.8659995

This?
http://www.dw.com/en/serbia-sends-provocative-train-to-kosovo/a-37133573

I'm really getting tired of Serbs provoking everyone and then pretending to be victims
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and secondly, you can't know what caused such a reaction

WOW.
I know perfectly What is the origin of such action - the Ethnic Hate.
If You have no idea about - make a trip here.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kosovska+Mitrovica/@42.8778142,20.8202245,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x135345063679ba21:0xc24c0fe075e868e2!8m2!3d42.8913909!4d20.8659995
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WOW, so much links on Wikipedia and no one about

"USURPATION OF SERBIAN PROPERTY IN THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA 1991-2011"

Are You still claiming, that this problem exist not?

http://regionalhousingprogramme.org/croatia/
http://www.wilcoproject.eu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/WILCO_WP2_Report_05_CR.pdf
http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/UNTC/UNPAN015746.pdf

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In the period from 1991 to 1995, some 250 000 minority Serbs fled Croatia. The authorities have so far registered 133 140 returnees of Serbian ethnicity to and within Croatia, representing around half of those who fled their places of origin.

To date, the government has renovated about 150 thousand housing units destroyed during the war, at the cost of about 17 billion kuna, 2.3 billion euros.
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WOW, so much links on Wikipedia and no one about

"USURPATION OF SERBIAN PROPERTY IN THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA 1991-2011"

Are You still claiming, that this problem exist not?
Civil conflict is not to blame if they are not provoked from outside. I don't know who provoked the confrontation in Yugoslavia. I know who provoked the war in Georgia, in Moldova, in Ukraine. Russian know how to provoke a military confrontation.
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WOW, so much links on Wikipedia and no one about

"USURPATION OF SERBIAN PROPERTY IN THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA 1991-2011"

Are You still claiming, that this problem exist not?
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I have not seen any conflict on ethnic grounds.

I talked with the Serbs, very nice people. The Croats too, I didn't do anything wrong, but mentally I'm closer to the Serbs.

Hi. What is on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-lJy4Js8j4
So what's the big deal? Firstly Muslims are not sacred, and secondly, you can't know what caused such a reaction. Until 1991 Yugoslavia existed peacefully and churches and mosques.
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The sauce of "agressor", pleace, reserve for some ignorant people.



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17748351

You're seriously calling us aggressor because of housing issues proclaimed by Miodrag Lenta?

After

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vukovar_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prijedor_ethnic_cleansing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Višegrad_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foča_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarska_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keraterm_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manjača_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzamnica_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijeljina_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doboj_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvornik_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovas_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škabrnja_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baćin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velika_Kruša_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalj_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdut_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbica_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Široka_Kula_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drenica_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saborsko_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voćin_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahatovići_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruška_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korićani_Cliffs_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuzla_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Bihać
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sarajevo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ćuška_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paklenik_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markale_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stajićevo_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sremska_Mitrovica_prison#Yugoslav_wars_period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilina_Vlas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suva_Reka_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gornje_Obrinje_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begejci_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Račak_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bela_Crkva_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubrava_Prison_bombings_and_executions
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I have not seen any conflict on ethnic grounds.

I talked with the Serbs, very nice people. The Croats too, I didn't do anything wrong, but mentally I'm closer to the Serbs.

Hi. What is on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-lJy4Js8j4
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During the war, both the sides committed atrocities.

Ohhh, the sweet lie they tell themselves to sleep easier

Serbia is the aggressor
Croatia is the defender

Serbs comitted ethnical cleansing on numerous spots
Croats comitted none

Serbs had organized ethnic cleansing actions, these people walk free
Croats had individual crimes comitted, all of them are punished and jailed

The sauce of "agressor", pleace, reserve for some ignorant people.
The list of requests of forcedly replaced Serbs from Croatia i have put for You on link.
Now You call this property steal as not episode of Ethnic cleansing.

Seems, You have nothing to show, how Croatia is dealing with crimes against property of ethnic Serbs of Croatia.


I personally was in Pristina in 1991, when the conflict in Yugoslavia was just beginning. I have not seen any conflict on ethnic grounds. I talked with the Serbs, very nice people. The Croats too, I didn't do anything wrong, but mentally I'm closer to the Serbs.
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During the war, both the sides committed atrocities.

Ohhh, the sweet lie they tell themselves to sleep easier

Serbia is the aggressor
Croatia is the defender

Serbs comitted ethnical cleansing on numerous spots
Croats comitted none

Serbs had organized ethnic cleansing actions, these people walk free
Croats had individual crimes comitted, all of them are punished and jailed

The sauce of "agressor", pleace, reserve for some ignorant people.
The list of requests of forcedly replaced Serbs from Croatia i have put for You on link.
Now You call this property steal as not episode of Ethnic cleansing.

Seems, You have nothing to show, how Croatia is dealing with crimes against property of ethnic Serbs of Croatia.

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Although there's only 30% of Serbs in the town

Fucking maniacs are unable to solve the Etnic Questions until now in Croatia.

I don't know how in Croatia, I have not been there, but in Donetsk, no ethnic cleansing was not there. You're lying. Russia spreading this false information in order to justify their aggressive actions in the Donbas.

Watch 'The Soviet story'
It's the same thing with Russia

Everyone they invade they try to proclaim fascist in order to justify their invasion

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During the war, both the sides committed atrocities.

Ohhh, the sweet lie they tell themselves to sleep easier

Serbia is the aggressor
Croatia is the defender

Serbs comitted ethnical cleansing on numerous spots
Croats comitted none

Serbs had organized ethnic cleansing actions, these people walk free
Croats had individual crimes comitted, all of them are punished and jailed
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Although there's only 30% of Serbs in the town

Fucking maniacs are unable to solve the Etnic Questions until now in Croatia.

I don't know how in Croatia, I have not been there, but in Donetsk, no ethnic cleansing was not there. You're lying. Russia spreading this false information in order to justify their aggressive actions in the Donbas.
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Although there's only 30% of Serbs in the town

Fucking maniacs are unable to solve the Etnic Questions until now in Croatia.


Are you retarded?

There were no war crimes commited on Serbs in Vukovar
Who the fuck would commit them? There were 2000 defenders defending the city against 90 000 Serbs
There was 90 bombs daily fired at the fucking hospital which even healed wounded Serbs!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayciR0OHJC8

I'm not going to spend any time on that .pdf, as I said I never read Serbian sources
I used to
Oh, boy, I used to..

If someone asked me I'd put every single terrorist in jail
Everyone who committed crimes against the population, aggression on Croatia etc.
And those murdered with known murderers would get all of their assets for their families
However, this will not happen, we're a mild nation, we forgive quickly, but we do not forget  Smiley
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about

I'm about the Money of forcedly replaced people (Serbs) from Croatia.
Croatian Banks have steal the Money of this people (Clients of such Banks).

It is time to move on. Serbia and Croatia are separate countries now, and each of them have their own destinations ahead. During the war, both the sides committed atrocities. But it is history now.
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Although there's only 30% of Serbs in the town

Fucking maniacs are unable to solve the Etnic Questions until now in Croatia.
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The case exist, just try to find, what the Croatian Banks are saying about reasons of steal the Money of forcedly expelled people.

Now You have all the info, or You have still no idea, about what i'm talking?
Just find what they admit to do with this Money in the light, that fit to You.

The ugly shit of Ethnic Cleansing page in History of Croatia.

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by .rs I meant Serbian sources

You didn't change anything, it's still written by Miodrag Linta (Member of Nikolićs party in Serbia) who also celebrated Vučićs victory (Kill a 100 people for every Serb..) and he claimed I quote "Croatia should stop arresting Serbs guilty of war crimes"

Now I'm seriously off to bed
And since you made me make one more reply

Sloboda Ukrajini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcpiA87dN8
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REQUESTING payout of foreign currency and domestic savings
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/courrier_officiel/arrivee/2011/EP-PE_LTA(2011)006906(PAR2)_EN.pdf

Show for all us, what croatian side have to say about stolen money of forcedly expelled Serbians from Croatia.
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USURPATION OF SERBIAN PROPERTY IN THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA 1991-2011
AND CROATIAN JUDUCIARY IN THE FUNCTION OF PREVENTING
SUSTAINABLE RETURN OF REFUGED AND EXPELLED SERBS  


http://koalicija.org.rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Report-Usurpation-of-Serbian-property-in-Croatia-1991.-2011..pdf?x43022

It need time to find such things on the WEB.
This text is not enough for You??

Avoid .rs sources

It's a waste of time

As I said previously
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Labrador

There's plenty of data on youtube to find organized fleeing by the Serb leaders when they realized the war in Croatia is lost
They settled these people in Bosnia, what is today Republika Srpska in order to create a Serb dominated territory

During the war 250 000 Croats and 150 000 Bosniaks were forced out and Srebrenica happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

They settled these Serbs here and won the war in Bosnia
In Croatia the territory was liberated
In Bosnia, the agreement gave the Serbs an entity of their own
Republik of Srpska
Which will soon vote secession and follow the Crimean scenario

May I add that every Serb that ever left Croatia by his own will can come back?
And those who were expelled from Republik of Srpska can't?

This is just what I wrote by reading the first few sentences
I'm just gonna tell you now
Save yourself some time and don't read .rs
You'll also save me time because I'll have to reply, I really don't want to
Somehow I feel I have to

Try to win your case without associating with the Serbs, it's not going to go very well
I'm off to bed, see ya tommorow
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USURPATION OF SERBIAN PROPERTY IN THE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA 1991-2011
AND CROATIAN JUDUCIARY IN THE FUNCTION OF PREVENTING
SUSTAINABLE RETURN OF REFUGED AND EXPELLED SERBS  

http://koalicija.org.rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Report-Usurpation-of-Serbian-property-in-Croatia-1991.-2011..pdf?x43022

It need time to find such things on the WEB.
This text is not enough for You??
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I have seen a report on "euronews" about this (footage from Croatia).
This is not so famous story, but this is a true.

It's not easy to find now something on the Web, clearly No one will talking about this issue in Croatia.

I don't see how this is relevant to anything?
I know you don't know anything about this so let me sum it up and I'm off to bed
Ughh, I'm gonna have to write quite a bit now..

It's about the Croatian goverment setting up boards in cyrillic lettering in Vukovar
Although there's only 30% of Serbs in the town, which of whom most participated in the slaugther inside it 25 years ago

Serbs use the latin alphabet as much as the cyrillic one (before the 20th century, everything in Belgrade was in the latin alphabet)
Croatian politicians still decided to use the cyrillic lettering everywhere in Vukovar instead the latin alphabet
The same cyrillic lettering that the Chetniks used while they destroyed Vukovar
To refresh your memory, Vukovar is the city where only on Ovčara Chetniks pushed 200 civilians in a hangar, and beaten them using baseball bats, chains, shovels, spikes they even beaten a handicapped guy with his own crutches (notorious deaths are Jean Michel Nicolier and Siniša Glavašević)
These were not executions
These were mass tortures

Franjo Tuđman later brought abolition (forgivness) to Chetniks in order to peacefully reintegrate
This resulted in women of Vukovar complaining men who raped them walk among them, free. Men who killed, tortured others with a smirk walk free.
This is the city where they chose to put cyrillic boards by force, where all this happened.
City with a 70% Croat majority where more than a 1000 civilians put their lives here on torment from the chetniks.
Not soldiers, civilians.
People who survived the torments of this torture walk among people who tortured them, and Croatian goverment tries to pull this although every Serb on the planet uses the latin alphabet more than the cyrillic alphabet (even in Serbia), and only nationalists refrain from the latin alphabet, they decide to put this in Vukovar, from all places on earth, in Vukovar??
And you expect people who bled here, who lost their loved ones to take it peacefully?
Not to executions. But to torture.



This is Darko Pajičić
He died in a hospital after a Croatian police officer beaten him up after he lit a candle and brought a black flag to cover the board

The officer still works in Croatian forces with no penalty whatsoever
Although Pajičić did nothing to the officer, and the officer murdered him (not with a gun)
This is not the only example

Officers that supported the protestors (Igor Gilja whose dad died in Vukovar) were fired
Later he succumbed to deppresion resulting in burning his house down and ending up in therapy

You want to say more about Croatia being the bad guy?
Do you see what we're doing to our own people just to make the aggresor and the butcher feel okay?
And still today Republic of Srpska wants secession from Bosnia&Herzegovina and to merge with Serbia?
And Serbs today elect Chetniks again
This is their leadership
Serbian prime minister Vučić (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqv9CJbd3U) "For every dead Serb, we'll kill a 100 people"
Serbian president Nikolić (http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/nikolic-i-danas-sanja-o-velikoj-srbiji-vukovar-je-bio-srpski-grad-tamo-se-hrvati-nemaju-sto-vracati/616918.aspx) "I still dream of Great Serbia, Vukovar is a Serbian town, Croats have no business returning there"
Vojislav Šešelj (a party with 22 seats in the parliament, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B6fYWb9aLM) a person who led
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Eagles_(paramilitary) who commited war crimes and is at trial in the Hague tribunal
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Testimony at the International War Crimes Tribunal indicates that the White Eagles were responsible for a number of atrocities during the Croatian and Bosnian wars, including: the Voćin massacre,Višegrad massacre,crimes at Foča, Gacko and others. Various members of the White Eagles were indicted by the Tribunal.[20][21] Mitar Vasiljević received a fifteen-year sentence.Former head, Milan Lukić, received a life sentence for his war crimes which include murdering men, women and children.

It has been also reported that White Eagles managed detention camp in Liješće, near Bosanski Brod.
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about

I'm about the Money of forcedly replaced people (Serbs) from Croatia.
Croatian Banks have steal the Money of this people.

Urghh, the fuck?

Are you sure you didn't replace it with Ljubljana bank?

I have seen a report on "euronews" about this (footage from Croatia).
This is not so famous story, but this is a true.

It's not easy to find now something on the Web, clearly No one will talking about this issue in Croatia.

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I literally have no idea what you're talking about

I'm about the Money of forcedly replaced people (Serbs) from Croatia.
Croatian Banks have steal the Money of this people.

Urghh, the fuck?

Are you sure you didn't replace it with Ljubljana bank?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljubljana_Bank

You do realize in Croatia, there is no such thing as Croatian banks
All banks are foreign owned

So, I seriously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about

I'm about the Money of forcedly replaced people (Serbs) from Croatia.
Croatian Banks have steal the Money of this people (Clients of such Banks).
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Explain, pls the story of how the Croatian Banks have steal the money of Serbian clients.
This will show how the Ethnic Cleansing is working.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about

Is it the time Austro-Hungarian krone (used in Croatia, Bosnia&Herzegovina,Slovenia) was exchanged in a 1:4 ratio for the Serbian Dinar although they were valued the same?
Or was it the time when the kuna from 2nd world war was exchanged for dinar at a bad valuation again?
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Explain, pls the story of how the Croatian Banks have steal the money of Serbian clients.
This will show how the Ethnic Cleansing is working.
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A classic civil war with Ethnic Cleansing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Borovo_Selo

The forced call about "agression" is a cheap trick to hide killings of civilians.

Tell me the story how Croatian Banks have steal the money of Serbs.

Urghhh, you fell for the propaganda eh?

I'm not going to get detailed, I'm just going to copy something from the Battle of Vukovar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar

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On 19 September, a JNA force consisting of at least 100 T-55 and M-84 tanks with armoured personnel carriers and heavy artillery pieces left Belgrade. It crossed into Croatia near the Serbian town of Šid on 20 September. The Croatians were quickly routed and fell back to Vukovar. The JNA's 1st Guards Mechanised Brigade soon reached the Vukovar barracks and lifted the Croatian siege of the facility. They also moved to encircle Vukovar. By 30 September, the town was almost completely surrounded. All roads in and out were blocked, and the only route in was via a farm track through a perilously exposed cornfield.

I really don't want to get detailed, because there's so many examples of bombings from Serbia, mostly Šid, all the weaponary coming from Serbia, and not only weapons but also men, notorious Chetnik volunteers in an aggression not a civil war

Serbian propaganda at the time tried to set it up to look like a civil war, but it was not
Might I remind you about the bombing of a jewish cemetery from KOS (Counter intelligence) in order to make Croatia look fascist in public?
These terrorists prove you should not trust their propaganda  Wink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Labrador

Ohh, yeah, they also sent out pictures of dead Croats as pictures of dead Serbs

Do not trust Serbian propaganda befeore checking facts  Smiley

Why did you post the Battle of Borovo Selo?
You realize although it won't fit in your Russian-Serbian orthodox brotherhood Serbs are still the bad guys here?
Your link says about crimes over the Croatian population, are you so indocrinated?

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Some of the police killed at Borovo Selo were found to have been mutilated, their ears cut, their eyes gouged out and their throats slit. These acts were meant to inflame ethnic hatred.

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Serbian National Assembly member Milan Paroški and Serbian Minister of Diaspora Stanko Cvijan—promoted the creation of Greater Serbia, a state which would unite all Serbs within a single country. They all repeated their speeches, together with an open call for dissenting Croats to be killed, a week later in Jagodnjak, north of Osijek.

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Reihl-Kir and Džaja concluded that a party should be sent to Borovo Selo, and Šoškoćanin agreed to grant the police safe passage under a white flag. However, when the force of between 20 and 30 policemen entered Borovo Selo under the white flag, they were ambushed by paramilitaries and members of a local militia
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A classic civil war with Ethnic Cleansing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Borovo_Selo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flash

The forced call about "agression" is a cheap trick to hide killings of civilians.

Tell me the story how Croatian Banks have steal the money of Serbs.
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When Serbia attacked Croatia 25 years ago,

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The Croatian War of Independence began when Serbs in Croatia, who were opposed to Croatian independence, announced their secession from Croatia following Croatia's declaration of independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars#Croatian_War_of_Independence_.281991.E2.80.9395.29

Dude, eat shit study the own History.

The war started on 17th August 1990
Battle of Pakrac 1st March 1991 (Yugoslav National Army participated)
Bloody Easter 31st March 1991
1st April 1991 SAO Krajina declared secession from Croatia
2nd May Borovo Selo conflicts
12th May SAO Krajina illegal referendum to merge with Serbia
16th May SAO Krajina decleration of merging with Serbia
24th June SAO Krajina leaders sign a merging agreement with Serbs from Bosnia
25th June Slovenia and Croatia declare independance

Please study my history  Smiley
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When Serbia attacked Croatia 25 years ago,

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The Croatian War of Independence began when Serbs in Croatia, who were opposed to Croatian independence, announced their secession from Croatia following Croatia's declaration of independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars#Croatian_War_of_Independence_.281991.E2.80.9395.29

Dude, eat shit study the own History.
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
This is a lie and Putin's propaganda. In Donetsk Ukrainians live and will live there. After their liberation from Russian occupation, they are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine because now you realize what the Russian occupier. As in the Crimea.
Do you have any evidence the people of Donetsk want Russia out?
Or is that your own fantasy?

With 46% of Ukranians and 48% of ethnic Russians, at least 50% of Donetsk wants Russia out  Smiley

I'm not surprised by France and UK supporting Russia

They will always support the stronger side
When Serbia attacked Croatia 25 years ago, they supported Serbia since they had the Yugoslav army
Soon when Croats put up resistance and started liberating their own territory and Serbs started running away from a previously unarmed nation
Westerners soon came to realize Serbs started an aggression, countries had the right to declare independance, that they comitted war crimes etc.
All of this was not important in 1991. even when Vukovar happened
All of this although true never really mattered
It only started being relevant once Croatia built an army
Countries will not support what is just, they will support who's going to win

Ukraine stands on its own with only a hand of help from others mostly from volunteers
And that's it

Russians got there with their Holodomor
Crimea is Ukraine
Ne damo Donbass o7
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
This is a lie and Putin's propaganda. In Donetsk Ukrainians live and will live there. After their liberation from Russian occupation, they are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine because now you realize what the Russian occupier. As in the Crimea.
Do you have any evidence the people of Donetsk want Russia out?
Or is that your own fantasy?
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http://www.feriasalimentarias.com/worldfood-ukraine/

WORLDFOOD UKRAINE 2017
Event Manager de esta feria:
Sasha Reisin
E-mail:
[email protected]
Tel.
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Fax.
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Lunes a Viernes - 10:00 a 17:00 hs. (GMT -03:00, Argentina)

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http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UA.aspx


As far as I know Ukraine filed a protest of this label on the product Coca Cola and this label was removed from products. It's all Putin's cheap PR campaign aimed at the domestic market. In the world it will not work!
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Here's the official map.

"The Autonomous Republic of Crimea" exist not from this event:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_of_the_Republic_of_Crimea

The map for WORLDFOOD UKRAINE 2017 is a perfect proof of it.


http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/serbia.pdf
LOL
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Wallstrasse 65
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NATO respect UN not. LOL

Are You blind on one Eye or what?
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WORLDFOOD UKRAINE 2017
Event Manager de esta feria:
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Fax.
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I have these images can spawn a bunch of on the Internet. It's all nonsense. Borders are only recognized in the UN. No one to sue with some sort of office because of the fake cards will not. Here's the official map.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/ukraine.pdf
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http://www.feriasalimentarias.com/worldfood-ukraine/

WORLDFOOD UKRAINE 2017
Event Manager de esta feria:
Sasha Reisin
E-mail:
[email protected]
Tel.
+54(11) 4555-0195
Fax.
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http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UA.aspx

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France is half Communist country. There are many bought politicians Putin and they could easily arrange such a provocation. You can see that on your screenshot shows a CNN report on this occasion.
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This map was published in Russia!

This is a online Google map, and  Registered in USA private company.
Call for the info at Google USA Customer Service Phone Number : 1-866-246-6453
 
So what this map shows? Crimea is Ukraine. There really is a line of demarcation between mainland Ukraine and Russian occupied territories. I'm sure that soon this border will disappear.
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This map was published in Russia!

This is a online Google map, and  Registered in USA private company.
Call for the info at Google USA Customer Service Phone Number : 1-866-246-6453
 
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This map was published in Russia! The whole world recognizes the annexation. Now, the Russians are creating intolerable conditions of life in Crimea the locals to resettle them all over Russia to then say that the Crimea is populated by Russians.
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The Russian government has given refugee status to close to 1.2 million Ukrainian citizens, and there are another 1.8 million of them working there.  

No such number, they are usually under other sauce as "forcedly replaced" or "forced migrant", they are victims of Ethnic cleansing.
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news/2015/10/151028_russia_ukraine_refugees_report (In Russian)
Here is about 315 cases at the data 2015 year as "refugee status".
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crimea is russia....just saying

NATO lies break promises
Open the world map and see!!! Crimea is Ukraine! The illegal annexation of Crimea is an international crime and I hope that Putin will be punished for such actions. Happy for him in the Hague!
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crimea is russia....just saying

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I wonder what Trump is going to do with this? Huh He should stop this war and overthrow tyranny in Russia and Belarus
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
This is a lie and Putin's propaganda. In Donetsk Ukrainians live and will live there. After their liberation from Russian occupation, they are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine because now you realize what the Russian occupier. As in the Crimea.

If it is all Putin's propaganda, then please tell me why the Donbass residents are seeking refuge in Russia rather than migrating to the cities controlled by the Ukrainian government? The Russian government has given refugee status to close to 1.2 million Ukrainian citizens, and there are another 1.8 million of them working there.  
That's not true. In Russia went only those who have lived there in the relatives. There were of course those who believe in Putin's propaganda, but they came back. I don't understand why you're lying?
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
This is a lie and Putin's propaganda. In Donetsk Ukrainians live and will live there. After their liberation from Russian occupation, they are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine because now you realize what the Russian occupier. As in the Crimea.

If it is all Putin's propaganda, then please tell me why the Donbass residents are seeking refuge in Russia rather than migrating to the cities controlled by the Ukrainian government? The Russian government has given refugee status to close to 1.2 million Ukrainian citizens, and there are another 1.8 million of them working there.  
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I think Putin is responsible for this carnage. He shouldn't take away Crimea and set at variance between two countries  Sad
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Putin should send some kind of peace keeping forces there to stop this massacre.
Putin himself is a terrorist and can't have peacekeepers. He is the aggressor. Ukrainians and Syrian rebels fighting Putin's "peacekeepers". The whole world sees it now but I'm afraid to react. Cowards!

They are not afraid to react its just that Ukraine isn't worth a nuclear war with Russia.
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Putin should send some kind of peace keeping forces there to stop this massacre.
Putin himself is a terrorist and can't have peacekeepers. He is the aggressor. Ukrainians and Syrian rebels fighting Putin's "peacekeepers". The whole world sees it now but I'm afraid to react. Cowards!
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Putin should send some kind of peace keeping forces there to stop this massacre.
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
This is a lie and Putin's propaganda. In Donetsk Ukrainians live and will live there. After their liberation from Russian occupation, they are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine because now you realize what the Russian occupier. As in the Crimea.
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The strategy from the Ukrainian government is very clear. They want to get rid of the natives of Donbass, and replace them with immigrants from Lvov and Ternopol. These bombing campaigns are designated to drive out the natives towards Russia.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfLoJJQP1LA graphic content
http://tass.com/politics/928721

The Jew-Bendera Government of Kiev is acting new killings of civilians in Donbass area of Former Ukraine.

http://www.interfax.ru/world/548279 (In Russian)
"Grad" and "Uragan" are in use for this bombing.
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