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legendary
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February 02, 2017, 10:24:17 PM
DRUGS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
               POVERTY IS^
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no, you know what was the problem? the problem is the people who uses itself. because of curiousity. people tend to try the taking of illegal drugs. thats why we cant say that poverty is the problem because proverty will not lead us to using illegal drugs. hence if you are poor you cant afford to use the drugs. maybe you will be a criminal if you used it. if you commit drugs when you are in the effect of illegal drugs you are a criminal.
the problem is the people who uses itself. because of curiousity..SO WHY DO YOU TRY ANYTHING?  curiosity Wink..

Most poor end up on the street then the street makes you do street stuff..

Mum can i have a playstation NO i cannot afford it ..oh mum..I cannot afford it i said get out or your staying in..

Now off you go on the street next thing billy from around the corner has stole some of his dads booze and fags ?..
Do you want some of this ..Well yes i will have ago..Standing there smoking and drinking like your father in the pub..And your only 11..
Then next Christmas mum can i have a playstation i said no get out..
Next thing you know bob from over the road has got a spliff..do you want ago Hmmm yer go on..Then before you know you have snorted coke drink
smoke weed and party..
Then your hooked after doing the same thing over and over again..

Now imagine a poor country some parents boot the children out on the street when they are 8 years old..POOR CHILDREN then sniff glue..


 
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 10:06:18 PM
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February 02, 2017, 10:03:27 PM
DRUGS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
               POVERTY IS^
Roll Eyes^

no, you know what was the problem? the problem is the people who uses itself. because of curiousity. people tend to try the taking of illegal drugs. thats why we cant say that poverty is the problem because proverty will not lead us to using illegal drugs. hence if you are poor you cant afford to use the drugs. maybe you will be a criminal if you used it. if you commit drugs when you are in the effect of illegal drugs you are a criminal.
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February 02, 2017, 09:06:58 PM
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.
Just look too the disadvantage of it.How you know that drug users will come out?And if that happens drug users use drugs in public and children will see it and if you have children you can explain to them what they doing?And how do you know that government can monitor them?And the government want their country called as drugs users sanctuary.I didn't know why you promoting drugs to legalize.

Legalizing drugs is not the same as promoting them. If you want people to stay away from drugs, then you need to introduce better awareness. Identifying the drug users is one of the most important steps in this. And drug usage has declined in all the countries, where drugs were legalized.

but legalizing drugs will be sure to be the head news not only here in the philippines but i think also in some part of the world. we all know that illegal drugs will not lead us to good but instead illegal drugs will just lead us to do bad things or worst doing crimes. so if illegal drugs will be legalized here in our country maybe some addicts from other country will go here in do the said activity.
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February 02, 2017, 05:51:01 PM
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
DRUGS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
               POVERTY IS^
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legendary
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February 02, 2017, 05:16:27 PM
Popcorn,

I will return to this topic later in more indepth review, but for now, I have to say, that your view is full of personal bias, that completely disregard human lives. Sorry.

Indeed I see nothing wrong with substances themselves, but alot of wrong with human nature.

Like in Mexico or Afghanistan, whole industry headed by local warlords grew around drug making and distribution in Phillipines, creating parallel society, that distrups and debilitates state as a whole. That IS a problem.

Official figures state, that 1000 people per month die of injuries in this drug war. Not of usage itself mind you. In a ongoing street war for "territory".

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/12/asia/philippines-death-toll-drug-war/
You will kill more and more and more because it will never stop..POVERTY..Makes people become addicts..Escape to somewhere else..

If your government makes them legal and buys this drug and sells it to the people the government makes the profits..
Also they could sell it much cheaper so no need to steal for it because it cost so much cheaper..

Big Pharma Now Kills More People Than Illegal Drugs - Your News Wire
yournewswire.com › News
4 Sep 2016 - Big Pharma Now Kills More People Than Illegal Drugs ... an average of 23,000 deaths relating to prescription pharmaceutical drugs per year in the USA.

Do you see people killing or breaking in somebodies home for a box of co codimol?..LEGAL DRUGS Wink..

Alcohol do you see people getting stuck up for a bottle of beer?..MORE DIE WITH ALCOHOL ..Legal high drink gets you stoned Wink..

Now from police corruption to now inviting the army on the streets you will now have ARMY CORRUPTION Wink..

Your in poverty people will do anything for money even selling drugs..Even your army general has a price..WHY?..Because your poor..

You will never win the drug war not ever..SO CARRY ON KILLING ..And it will get worse and worse and worse..
To much money in drugs and the fact your country is poor you got no chance to win the war on drugs..

And even the rich like a little go at drugs now and then..So the fight against drugs is a waste of money..

If someone chooses to take drugs it's his choice..But if it affects everyone else around him that's not right..
Now what is the main problem with drugs?..GETTING THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE DRUGS..So they do crime to buy it..
Then the turf wars and innocent people can get caught up in it..

So Chemist shops could sell it legal..make profits back to the government..No money wasted on jails for drugs..
And loads of money needed for police..
Then build a place they can take these drugs..

Now if weed would of been made legal in the first place you might of not seen an explosion in hard cheaper drugs..

YOU WILL NEVER WIN THE DRUG WAR NOT EVER..Unless you stick a guard outside every ones home in your country..
Total lock down..BUT how will you pay for this?..I got a suggestion DRUGS Cheesy Cheesy..A joke by the way..
legendary
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February 02, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
I dont know what do you find amazing about killing people.

He will dont do it, because he is killing the people who use drugs,
but i think that he must do something about the people who fill this country with drugs and not again the people who use it.
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February 02, 2017, 03:43:24 PM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it

I think, what is the most powerful is our politicians, we know that some politicians are the one who protected the drug lords. We must push through those who are involve in drugs, we must not protect those who committed crimes, and who are those drug addicts too.
That is the reason why Philippines is one of the most corrupt country in the world, it is a shame but this is the truth. We have a good leader that wanted to have a good nation but what other politicians do is to move him down, I can't really think that there are people who wanted to be rich in the illegal aspect thinking that we are going to die someday and we cannot bring our money after death.

Yes, I agree, we are always the focus of the drug crimes but not focusing on the people who protect the crime, there have been many campaigns about the dangers of drugs but that's not enough, there must be a perfect measures, we will not be able to kill a drug without killing people who protect drug crimes. I read the article about drugs in the Philippines, drug crimes in the Philippines has indeed could not be controlled, if it continues to be left, Philippines will be worse by these circumstances. in this case the intervention of powerful people, they could protect drug crimes. not only in the Philippines, the other countries have the same problems and They also could not kill the drug. so there has to be a bold move by the Government to destroy the drugs.
Drug does not need to fight in such methods. It is a social disease. If unemployment in the country and the people have nothing to earn money they turn to drugs. I think you need to start with combating unemployment.
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February 02, 2017, 09:30:50 AM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it

I think, what is the most powerful is our politicians, we know that some politicians are the one who protected the drug lords. We must push through those who are involve in drugs, we must not protect those who committed crimes, and who are those drug addicts too.
That is the reason why Philippines is one of the most corrupt country in the world, it is a shame but this is the truth. We have a good leader that wanted to have a good nation but what other politicians do is to move him down, I can't really think that there are people who wanted to be rich in the illegal aspect thinking that we are going to die someday and we cannot bring our money after death.

Yes, I agree, we are always the focus of the drug crimes but not focusing on the people who protect the crime, there have been many campaigns about the dangers of drugs but that's not enough, there must be a perfect measures, we will not be able to kill a drug without killing people who protect drug crimes. I read the article about drugs in the Philippines, drug crimes in the Philippines has indeed could not be controlled, if it continues to be left, Philippines will be worse by these circumstances. in this case the intervention of powerful people, they could protect drug crimes. not only in the Philippines, the other countries have the same problems and They also could not kill the drug. so there has to be a bold move by the Government to destroy the drugs.
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February 02, 2017, 08:49:54 AM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it

I think, what is the most powerful is our politicians, we know that some politicians are the one who protected the drug lords. We must push through those who are involve in drugs, we must not protect those who committed crimes, and who are those drug addicts too.
That is the reason why Philippines is one of the most corrupt country in the world, it is a shame but this is the truth. We have a good leader that wanted to have a good nation but what other politicians do is to move him down, I can't really think that there are people who wanted to be rich in the illegal aspect thinking that we are going to die someday and we cannot bring our money after death.
There can not be such so bad people was a good leader. This is nonsense! The leader of the Philippines comes from the Philippines. He is part of the people. What he's trying to find a way out of difficult situation is good, but the methods...
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February 02, 2017, 08:00:34 AM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it

I think, what is the most powerful is our politicians, we know that some politicians are the one who protected the drug lords. We must push through those who are involve in drugs, we must not protect those who committed crimes, and who are those drug addicts too.
That is the reason why Philippines is one of the most corrupt country in the world, it is a shame but this is the truth. We have a good leader that wanted to have a good nation but what other politicians do is to move him down, I can't really think that there are people who wanted to be rich in the illegal aspect thinking that we are going to die someday and we cannot bring our money after death.
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February 02, 2017, 07:22:15 AM
Just saying those words, we cannot eliminate those drug users, but we must eliminate those drug dealers to avoid drug users to buy. If there are no supply of drugs, then all of the drug users will have no drug supplies. All of us know why we are hate drugs, but the mind set of drug users is only they want happiness, and to relieve pain, but they abuse themselves, and they overuse the drugs.

This will never work. Drug addicts can't live without the supply of drugs. They will become violent, if they don't get the supplies. If they could be identified, we could treat them with less harmful drugs such as methadone. Else, they will start preparing drugs on their own. In Russia, when they made it hard for the drug addicts to get heroin, the addicts started to manufacture Krokodil from codeine pills. And Krokodil is much more harmful than heroin.
Methadone is also not the way out. I believe that all drug addicts should be forcibly treated for drug addiction. However, they should not just located in the clinic, and forced to work and earn for treatment themselves.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
Just saying those words, we cannot eliminate those drug users, but we must eliminate those drug dealers to avoid drug users to buy. If there are no supply of drugs, then all of the drug users will have no drug supplies. All of us know why we are hate drugs, but the mind set of drug users is only they want happiness, and to relieve pain, but they abuse themselves, and they overuse the drugs.

This will never work. Drug addicts can't live without the supply of drugs. They will become violent, if they don't get the supplies. If they could be identified, we could treat them with less harmful drugs such as methadone. Else, they will start preparing drugs on their own. In Russia, when they made it hard for the drug addicts to get heroin, the addicts started to manufacture Krokodil from codeine pills. And Krokodil is much more harmful than heroin.
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February 01, 2017, 08:29:01 PM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it

I think, what is the most powerful is our politicians, we know that some politicians are the one who protected the drug lords. We must push through those who are involve in drugs, we must not protect those who committed crimes, and who are those drug addicts too.
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February 01, 2017, 01:03:01 PM


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.


Lol. Maybe before but now are different stories. I bet you remembered to what to the father of kerwin an convicted druglord. As you can see there were no trial for him to justify himself. Public attorney's office right now are doing pretty much good work anyways.

 or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.  Again, this was on the past administrations. If you know a rich person who's in prison right now that is living like a king inside the prison then you should name it
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February 01, 2017, 11:15:51 AM

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Legalizing drugs is not the same as promoting them. If you want people to stay away from drugs, then you need to introduce better awareness. Identifying the drug users is one of the most important steps in this. And drug usage has declined in all the countries, where drugs were legalized.


Some people may disagree with me, but I have a different attitude about the legalization of drugs. In countries which have already implemented the decriminalization the results were not encouraging enough. The use of drugs was not an intrusive behavior so the users were increased, which resulted in more deaths. Some Scandinavian countries, had implemented practices to decriminalize the drugs. So the drugs were possible to administer under prescription. After two years and because the results of this effort have increased twice the drug users, these countries were forced to withdraw their programs.


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February 01, 2017, 05:25:32 AM
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.
Just look too the disadvantage of it.How you know that drug users will come out?And if that happens drug users use drugs in public and children will see it and if you have children you can explain to them what they doing?And how do you know that government can monitor them?And the government want their country called as drugs users sanctuary.I didn't know why you promoting drugs to legalize.

Legalizing drugs is not the same as promoting them. If you want people to stay away from drugs, then you need to introduce better awareness. Identifying the drug users is one of the most important steps in this. And drug usage has declined in all the countries, where drugs were legalized.
Identifying the drug users?  Huh  Okay after that if we identified the drug users what next? And how you know if they cooperate? if they know that drugs is legal now.You didn't know what is the effect of drugs on our life.You want to know why I hate drugs?

Just saying those words, we cannot eliminate those drug users, but we must eliminate those drug dealers to avoid drug users to buy. If there are no supply of drugs, then all of the drug users will have no drug supplies. All of us know why we are hate drugs, but the mind set of drug users is only they want happiness, and to relieve pain, but they abuse themselves, and they overuse the drugs.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 05:11:32 AM
Identifying the drug users?  Huh  Okay after that if we identified the drug users what next? And how you know if they cooperate? if they know that drugs is legal now.You didn't know what is the effect of drugs on our life.You want to know why I hate drugs?

Once they are identified, then they should be shown various documentary films showing medial conditions resulting from the usage of hard drugs. Also, they should be encouraged to participate in the drug-substitution therapy. Hard drugs can be replaced with the soft drugs. For example, heroin can be replaced with methadone.
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 02:52:23 AM
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.
Just look too the disadvantage of it.How you know that drug users will come out?And if that happens drug users use drugs in public and children will see it and if you have children you can explain to them what they doing?And how do you know that government can monitor them?And the government want their country called as drugs users sanctuary.I didn't know why you promoting drugs to legalize.

Legalizing drugs is not the same as promoting them. If you want people to stay away from drugs, then you need to introduce better awareness. Identifying the drug users is one of the most important steps in this. And drug usage has declined in all the countries, where drugs were legalized.
Identifying the drug users?  Huh  Okay after that if we identified the drug users what next? And how you know if they cooperate? if they know that drugs is legal now.You didn't know what is the effect of drugs on our life.You want to know why I hate drugs?
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