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Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 08:05:21 AM

Quote from: sxemini on September 24, 2021, 07:52:14 AM

you are wrong, but ok i don´t discuss on this forum.

How long your are mining zil? 1 week? 1 month? I mine it for 2 years on 2 addresses with 2.5GH and i know what i say. Zil rewards can go up and down -> factor luck is much bigger -> because the PoW time is shorter.

and sure you make less eth if you mine zilliqa - you loose over 1h daily mining time on eth (24 switches * around 3min - 5min)

but as i said -> senseless to discuss

If you could just read instead of trying to find who is right and wrong you can easily see in the above post,the one before you posted that I have already said it is not much I am mining,one week and I see this happening so far.When I will have more data then maybe I will see that I can come to another conclusion and not this one.

Regarding the switch in time you are completely wrong it is just 1.5 minutes every 2 hours a Zil round in ezil pool where I mine but maybe you mine in a different pool.

Yes i read and i can´t see this statement, i only see that you say wrong things. Zilliqa income has nothing to do with ETH income (different chains so how should eth income effect zil income?). And if you mine both, you lose income on the main coin, this is a fact, because you loose mining time.

Ezil switch every hour as every other Zil pool Roll Eyes

Check the logs. Mining time with switching the DAG´s is also higher than 1.5 minutes

This all have nothing to do with who is right or wrong, but you spreading wrong information without longterm data, that´s it. Newbies read your post and think you are right and do the same.
And by the way, you have not much hashpower, with low hash rates the Zil income fluctuates much more.

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Quote from: batsonxl on September 27, 2021, 05:30:25 AM

I wish some miner dev will do this dual mining like used to be. Remember eth+sia eth blake there was many. It used to mine simultaneously, no need change the dag file.

That will be difficult with ZIL as one ZIL round is only 1.5 minutes and it does not mine all the time,the developers of ZIL also say one of the advantages of ZIL is that is not that hard on energy resources as you only mine 1.5 minutes,but you need to change DAG here.With SIA,DCR and Blake you were mining constantly without changing from one coin to another something which I don't see possible so far with the way ZIL mining works when dual mining it.

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I wish some miner dev will do this dual mining like used to be. Remember eth+sia eth blake there was many. It used to mine simultaneously, no need change the dag file.

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Quote from: keksik on September 26, 2021, 04:13:39 AM

I mine ETC and ZIL in ezil.me and with 640Mhs getting only 10-12ZIL per day(using phoenixminer). these numbers looks to me so low in comparison with some ppl above

thank you

That is extremely low compared to what you need to have,I have a rig which does 200-210 Mhsh in Ethereum Classic + Zilliqa and I make like near 7 Zilliqa per day right now that the difficulty is high.With that hash rate you mention you need to make like at least 20-22 Zilliqa per day,so you are making half of what you should.I don't know but you should check what is wrong,here below is a picture of me with an average of 201 Mhsh during last 24 hours making about 7 Zilliqa in the ezil.me pool and I am also using Phoenix miner in that rig.

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Quote from: cryp24x on September 26, 2021, 04:50:54 AM

Quote from: FP91G on September 24, 2021, 09:11:59 AM

There are 2 opinions, some say that it is beneficial, others say that it is not.
From 1 terahesh in the last month of dual mining, 1200 Zil coins are obtained, or approximately $ 100.
The results of the test of various miners say that if the network has very high commissions from 10 Ethereum coins in a block (and recently there were 100-300 coins each), then it is better to mine only Ethereum. If fees are low, then dual mining is better.

Ethereum Classic is better to mine with Zil.

But the reality now that is happening in the ETH is the fee's was too high if your gonna make a transaction with it.
Actually, I'm not quite familiar with any of the mining site or whatever. But I can't deny that I am a bit curious for what
I'm going to do I mean the first step to mine ZIL, this coin in my sight I think its good to mine it. How to mine this ZIL anyway?

This coin should only be mined in dual mining. To mine this coin, you need to connect to the pool for a few minutes per hour, and the rest of the time you can mine any coin.
In this guide, the most basic mining combinations are written, if you use Windows or another system, then use the search.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210520195911/hiveos.farm/how_to_dual_mine_ZIL_ETH_ERGO_RVN_in_HiveOS/

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Quote from: FP91G on September 24, 2021, 09:11:59 AM

There are 2 opinions, some say that it is beneficial, others say that it is not.
From 1 terahesh in the last month of dual mining, 1200 Zil coins are obtained, or approximately $ 100.
The results of the test of various miners say that if the network has very high commissions from 10 Ethereum coins in a block (and recently there were 100-300 coins each), then it is better to mine only Ethereum. If fees are low, then dual mining is better.

Ethereum Classic is better to mine with Zil.

But the reality now that is happening in the ETH is the fee's was too high if your gonna make a transaction with it.
Actually, I'm not quite familiar with any of the mining site or whatever. But I can't deny that I am a bit curious for what
I'm going to do I mean the first step to mine ZIL, this coin in my sight I think its good to mine it. How to mine this ZIL anyway?

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I mine ETC and ZIL in ezil.me and with 640Mhs getting only 10-12ZIL per day(using phoenixminer). these numbers looks to me so low in comparison with some ppl above

thank you

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Ok, that's wierd, when you mining eth down revenue because difficulty, then it shouldn't be affecting your dual mining profit, Huh

, Secondary coin should be based on their network difficult

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Quote from: santiPOGI on September 24, 2021, 11:19:29 AM

Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 02:08:30 AM

I just wanted to share with you all what I have noticed during the time (which is not much) that I am dual mining Eth+Zil in a pool.What I find it to be advantageous over single mining is that when the daily reward of Ethereum are higher the daily reward of Zilliqa are small but when Ethereum rewards are small which mean less money from such rewards,the rewards in Zilliqa goes extremely high.Let me give an example based on a 285 Mhsh processing power,when I was doing daily an amount of 0.0055-0.0059 Ethereum I was only doing near 8 Zilliqa but when I was doing an amount of Ethereum 0.0046-0.0048 daily due to very high difficulty I was doing like 17 Zilliqa per day and if we see for a month here is about 500 Zilliqa which can make up in the end for the amount reduced from mining Ethereum daily.I would call this an advantage for the situation nowadays.

In accordance with your explanation dude, you are mining in dual ways where there is no loose in both coins, that's what your
trying to emphasize here. Now, I'm just curious about this two coins, may I know what kind of mining you are using it into Ethereum
and Zilliqa? Due to I'm kind a bit interested to mine this two actually, hope you will notice this comment of mine to you.

I have saved this link and am using this instruction.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210520195911/https://hiveos.farm/how_to_dual_mine_ZIL_ETH_ERGO_RVN_in_HiveOS/
It is wrong to say that dual mining does not take profit from the first coin. But to check this in practice, you will have to use 2 identical farms.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 07:23:40 AM

Quote from: skablast on September 24, 2021, 07:08:02 AM

In the last months of so: mining with eth is better when the gas is high so normally when eth increase a lot of decrease a lot

Zilliqa has been up because of the NFTs on the last 15days.

I don't know where you are mining and with what miner , but I mine with LOL double stratum and with 450 MHS I average 18 zil a day in the last month or so and BTW, I am not missing the huge blocks that has been mined

I mine at Ezil.me pool having had a lot of doubts before joining there as a lot of people were saying the rewards will be lower than Ethermine,yet I am happy I made the switch,I mine the same amount of Ethereum daily as in Ethermine plus about 10-12 Zil per day now with about 300 Mhsh of processing power.

According to mining pools monitor on telegram no you make less eth. Enough so that you'd have been better off buying zil with the eth you made.

Given that the bot monitors miners wallets on every major pool I'd suggest following it as you'll be able to clearly see which pools are stealing given that long term there are 10-20% differences between major pools when it should be 1-2%.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 02:08:30 AM

I just wanted to share with you all what I have noticed during the time (which is not much) that I am dual mining Eth+Zil in a pool.What I find it to be advantageous over single mining is that when the daily reward of Ethereum are higher the daily reward of Zilliqa are small but when Ethereum rewards are small which mean less money from such rewards,the rewards in Zilliqa goes extremely high.Let me give an example based on a 285 Mhsh processing power,when I was doing daily an amount of 0.0055-0.0059 Ethereum I was only doing near 8 Zilliqa but when I was doing an amount of Ethereum 0.0046-0.0048 daily due to very high difficulty I was doing like 17 Zilliqa per day and if we see for a month here is about 500 Zilliqa which can make up in the end for the amount reduced from mining Ethereum daily.I would call this an advantage for the situation nowadays.

In accordance with your explanation dude, you are mining in dual ways where there is no loose in both coins, that's what your
trying to emphasize here. Now, I'm just curious about this two coins, may I know what kind of mining you are using it into Ethereum
and Zilliqa? Due to I'm kind a bit interested to mine this two actually, hope you will notice this comment of mine to you.

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There are 2 opinions, some say that it is beneficial, others say that it is not.
From 1 terahesh in the last month of dual mining, 1200 Zil coins are obtained, or approximately $ 100.
The results of the test of various miners say that if the network has very high commissions from 10 Ethereum coins in a block (and recently there were 100-300 coins each), then it is better to mine only Ethereum. If fees are low, then dual mining is better.

Ethereum Classic is better to mine with Zil.

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Quote from: sxemini on September 24, 2021, 07:52:14 AM

you are wrong, but ok i don´t discuss on this forum.

How long your are mining zil? 1 week? 1 month? I mine it for 2 years on 2 addresses with 2.5GH and i know what i say. Zil rewards can go up and down -> factor luck is much bigger -> because the PoW time is shorter.

and sure you make less eth if you mine zilliqa - you loose over 1h daily mining time on eth (24 switches * around 3min - 5min)

but as i said -> senseless to discuss

If you could just read instead of trying to find who is right and wrong you can easily see in the above post,the one before you posted that I have already said it is not much I am mining,one week and I see this happening so far.When I will have more data then maybe I will see that I can come to another conclusion and not this one.

Regarding the switch in time you are completely wrong it is just 1.5 minutes every 2 hours a Zil round in ezil pool where I mine but maybe you mine in a different pool.

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you are wrong, but ok i don´t discuss on this forum.

How long your are mining zil? 1 week? I mine it for 2 years on 2 addresses with 2.5GH and i know what i say. Zil rewards can go up and down -> factor luck is much bigger -> because the PoW time is shorter.

and sure you make less eth if you mine zilliqa - you loose over 1h daily mining time on eth (24 switches * around 3min - 5min)

but as i said -> senseless to discuss

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Quote from: skablast on September 24, 2021, 07:08:02 AM

In the last months of so: mining with eth is better when the gas is high so normally when eth increase a lot of decrease a lot

Zilliqa has been up because of the NFTs on the last 15days.

I don't know where you are mining and with what miner , but I mine with LOL double stratum and with 450 MHS I average 18 zil a day in the last month or so and BTW, I am not missing the huge blocks that has been mined

I mine at Ezil.me pool having had a lot of doubts before joining there as a lot of people were saying the rewards will be lower than Ethermine,yet I am happy I made the switch,I mine the same amount of Ethereum daily as in Ethermine plus about 10-12 Zil per day now with about 300 Mhsh of processing power.

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In the last months of so: mining with eth is better when the gas is high so normally when eth increase a lot of decrease a lot

Zilliqa has been up because of the NFTs on the last 15days.

I don't know where you are mining and with what miner , but I mine with LOL double stratum and with 450 MHS I average 18 zil a day in the last month or so and BTW, I am not missing the huge blocks that has been mined

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Quote from: sxemini on September 24, 2021, 03:54:27 AM

Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 02:08:30 AM

I just wanted to share with you all what I have noticed during the time (which is not much) that I am dual mining Eth+Zil in a pool.What I find it to be advantageous over single mining is that when the daily reward of Ethereum are higher the daily reward of Zilliqa are small but when Ethereum rewards are small which mean less money from such rewards,the rewards in Zilliqa goes extremely high.Let me give an example based on a 285 Mhsh processing power,when I was doing daily an amount of 0.0055-0.0059 Ethereum I was only doing near 8 Zilliqa but when I was doing an amount of Ethereum 0.0046-0.0048 daily due to very high difficulty I was doing like 17 Zilliqa per day and if we see for a month here is about 500 Zilliqa which can make up in the end for the amount reduced from mining Ethereum daily.I would call this an advantage for the situation nowadays.

Sorry but it is not correct. Maybe you think you get more zilliqa when the ETH reward goes down, but Zilliqa rewards depends on the difficulty and network hashrate like ETH.
Zil reward and eth reward are not related to each other.

I mine ZIL since Block 0 and the rewards fluctuate much. Some day i get 100 Zil and the next day i get 50 Zil.

No it is correct,I know the pool says the same thing as you are saying here but from my personal experience by dual mining I see the one I wrote above.When Ethereum rewards are down immediately Zilliqa rewards are with a big upside,maybe is just a coincidence as I haven't mined that much dual mining,only about a week but that is what I see.I think this is the advantage to dual mining compared to single mining,the dual mine can compensate some or in the best case all of your lost money because of rewards going down in the main coin which is always Ethereum most of the time.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 24, 2021, 02:08:30 AM

I just wanted to share with you all what I have noticed during the time (which is not much) that I am dual mining Eth+Zil in a pool.What I find it to be advantageous over single mining is that when the daily reward of Ethereum are higher the daily reward of Zilliqa are small but when Ethereum rewards are small which mean less money from such rewards,the rewards in Zilliqa goes extremely high.Let me give an example based on a 285 Mhsh processing power,when I was doing daily an amount of 0.0055-0.0059 Ethereum I was only doing near 8 Zilliqa but when I was doing an amount of Ethereum 0.0046-0.0048 daily due to very high difficulty I was doing like 17 Zilliqa per day and if we see for a month here is about 500 Zilliqa which can make up in the end for the amount reduced from mining Ethereum daily.I would call this an advantage for the situation nowadays.

Sorry but it is not correct. Maybe you think you get more zilliqa when the ETH reward goes down, but Zilliqa rewards depends on the difficulty and network hashrate like ETH.
Zil reward and eth reward are not related to each other.

I mine ZIL since Block 0 and the rewards fluctuate much. Some day i get 100 Zil and the next day i get 50 Zil.

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I just wanted to share with you all what I have noticed during the time (which is not much) that I am dual mining Eth+Zil in a pool.What I find it to be advantageous over single mining is that when the daily reward of Ethereum are higher the daily reward of Zilliqa are small but when Ethereum rewards are small which mean less money from such rewards,the rewards in Zilliqa goes extremely high.Let me give an example based on a 285 Mhsh processing power,when I was doing daily an amount of 0.0055-0.0059 Ethereum I was only doing near 8 Zilliqa but when I was doing an amount of Ethereum 0.0046-0.0048 daily due to very high difficulty I was doing like 17 Zilliqa per day and if we see for a month here is about 500 Zilliqa which can make up in the end for the amount reduced from mining Ethereum daily.I would call this an advantage for the situation nowadays.

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