Topic: Duelbits limit my betting limits (Becausue I consistenly winning) (Read 618 times)

At physical casinos before they ban you they try to offer you all kind of benefits like free drinks, free food or even a free room to try to make you stay and lose all of that money to them, however if they see you keep winning then regardless of whether you are a professional gambler or just someone that is very lucky they are going to eventually deny you entry to the casino, so I think it makes sense that online casinos also do something similar to this.

That can be a great reason for them to limit your account, and being seen as if you can abuse their system is an inflatable option to ban them, Duelbits is a casino that has gained a very good reputation due to its acts that are totally transparent. , each casino has its own rules and one as a player must understand that this type of casino has a very high security, and it cannot be seen as casinos that can be violated or that their security is deficient, these things go much further. If a player always has his game under the level and he is increasing it, there is no reason for duelbits to limit him.



Things like that always happen in physical casinos, it seems strange to me that Duelbits wants to do that, are you completely sure that it is happening for that reason? I find it a bit out of the ordinary, Duelbits has been in the forum for quite some time, and it is a casino that has achieved a lot in a short time, but I really do not see it in it, on the contrary, a casino when it sees that its players they are outstanding what they do is encourage you to continue like this, just as they do at stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos that are very good, with a high reputation and among them is also Duelbits, in fact I have seen in Dulebits official forum thread when they post the big wins and when they pay it out.

For a business like this then lucky guys would be always be having that kind of treatment on which it do really acts out that you are some sort of a wanted person where you should really be not able to enter to casino premises just because they do know that you are the ones who could rip off some income into their casino and this is just on the same concept when you are dealing on online casino which it isnt really that surprising.
It would be normal that they would really be putting up some limitations because you are winning up too much.Therefore, as a gambler and being that lucky then there's nothing you can do but to make
some jump off into different casinos.

It is not as impossible as you think, casinos are businesses and if you are a gambler which is reducing their profits then they are not going to like you, it is that simple, this is more notorious at physical casinos in which if you are playing blackjack or another game and you are winning too much you could be denied entry to the casino ever again, at Las Vegas they even take a picture of you and keep your profile in a book as if you were a criminal and you are subsequently banned from all Las Vegas casinos.

This looks quite impossible for me. Duelbits is not a beginner for gambling casinos, it has already a strong and reputable foundation so most likely, the funds here are definitely huge that mostly high rollers have trusted. Maybe if they have seen some red flags on you, so you are currently investigated. Otherwise, not to offend, maybe you are some kind of spreading fake news since only you knows the side of your story.

Gambling or betting platforms are businesses which they would really be eyeing into those bettors who do constantly win or does have high winning chances or statistics which we know that it wont really be that

good for the business which it would really be just common sense that they would be limiting out you withdrawal or winning or something in related just for you not to have that full extent
on what you are tending to bet.

There are lots of platforms which we could choose from if ever we've been limited out by the current platform that we are using.
Cant really deny that there are people or gamblers who are really good at betting specially on sports.

You do not necessarily have to do something like that, as that would be considered to be a form of cheating, there are people out there which are so good at sport betting that they can in fact beat the casino at their own game, but if you do this consistently then it is obvious that casinos are not going to be happy about this and they will limit your account, so as you have said the only solution for the OP is to to open an account at another trusted casino and move on.

Sometimes sports bet predictions are leaked and with proper source you will get to know who's going to win. Maybe they found you suspicious as you are always winning on sports so they limited your sports bets. However your bets are fair and it does not involve any cheating but the information may come from outside. Maybe they are not sure why you are always winning on sports so they just put your sports bets on the limit.
The best you can do is wd all your money from their and try another trusted site.

You're a great gambler, can you teach me even a little tip on how to win at the sportsbook friend? Besides that, I can't imagine that the gambling platform limits you in betting, do you mean that at first, you could bet a lot of money in the sportsbook? then when the house edge saw that you often win, they limited your bet to 70$.

Does that mean you win every day at the sportsbook? As a gambler, I don't even know how to play that and I don't know what that game is like, I just often play dice games and so on.

the beta traders themselves monitor the high stakes accounts and bet and sometimes sell them.they see from the ip address.they see from the ip address. if you beat the limit with several accounts, there may be a value bet

Accounts limit are pretty normal to every casino esp. if you reached that limit due to regularly betting. But this is only a timely limit, a monthly  or weekly, depends. I don't think there's something you can do but to ask their support to increase your  account's limit in any way they approve like depositing xxxx amount or what if possible.

This is the reason why many got banned because they are trying to bypass the terms and conditions of the site, and guess what if they caught they will create scam accusation here as if they are the real victim well in fact, they did something wrong in the first place.

Duelbits is very reputable site, I agree on the suggestion that you should keep on playing until your limit gone, you can communicate as well with the team but I'm sure Duelbits will bring back your higher limit once they saw nothing irregularities with your account, just enjoy playing small money for now.

This could be, and probably the most possible reason why they grant the OP's account a lower bet limits on their sportsbooks.
If they suspect anything from this account, it's just normal to do it. And once everything is cleared out, they could just lift the bet limit (if the user is not cheating), or probably penalized the account if he was proven to be fraudulent.

Well, I don't have a beta account, but there are colleagues with over 100 accounts and they rotate them to avoid the limit

^I can't imagine now how you can handle those 10 accounts and also how you can deposit them all or just abuse the bonus if that is your purpose.
Creating a bunch of multiple accounts was depend on the ToS of the gambling casino, we should read it first if the casino allows users more than one account. There is no point in making a lot of accounts if you are looking to have fun and probably duelbits are very strict on this and to reach out to their support is the best thing to do.

mainly because of limit. bet365 now they were condemned again in spain because of player limit. but they are very cheeky

People do make couple or lots of accounts, due to these possible reasons;

1. Abusing bonuses
2. Do love to create new when 1 account does have bust all of its balance
3. Forget password/access

This is why its important on reading up Terms and conditions for that you would be at least aware
on the things that you would gonna do.

I don't play at bet365 now, but I'm talking about colleagues.by law they cannot limit the number of accounts from one IP. quite a few people take them as a bonus

Why there’s a need to have a lot of account? Is that allowed on that site or just doing this and trying to avoid the terms and conditions? Well, being restricted tells a lot with your gambling activities. Duelbits usually do this to new gamblers who already won a lot with their bets or doing this with a possible fraud account, to know the exact details better to ask the support and a possible reason to removed the lower limit.

it is difficult to determine the reason for the limit. for example in my country bet365 is mainly used.people there have at least 10 accounts and, for example, after some questionable match, some get a limit, others don't. for example, if someone plays the bet in 5 accounts, in 2 there is a limit, the others don't.

I don't think that there has something to do with your winnings on why they're limiting your bets. There have been issues in the past that players do get it normally because it's what the sportsbook is implementing. Welp, if they've seen and proven you cheat against their system then that's still good of them that they've just limited your bets and didn't implemented a whole ban hammer to your account. But if it's not the case, then there's something that they're adjusting through their players and that's including the betting limits.

Cheating in sportsbook ... Mmm for what I know its really hard if not impossible. It would be interesting (as I said before) understand what kind of game/sports/competition he was playing.... And if he has completed KYC.. OP Is online but seems has no interest to discuss about this issue...

However there are a lot of gambling sites he can find easilu a new solution....

This is one hilarious post now. You really think that casino like Duelbit would not take care of player like in nicest way possible? However if you are cheating the system then you would be taken down for sure. All I am seeing here is your account is still on and you can still play there. It might be case that you have won lot and Duelbit yet to get back it’s “house edge” % to stay alive ahead of casino wide losses. Most of the time this automatic but in your account it might be possibility that you have interfaced rather than played the casino honestly.

Hmm, well that is true. OP did not provide us with any proof or much details of whats really going on. Most of the complainers here are rule breakers who disregard the terms of service of the online gambling casino they play at and then complain when they get punished. Thats true.

However we also know that casinos do not care about rule breakers as long as the casino makes a profit. Once the casino starts losing money, rule breaker or not, they will find a way to stop the person from taking their money, no matter how unjustified their methods are. So I would not judge too hastily.

Well it has been decided mate that he will be limited and I have seen this same case in other sportsbook about a friend of mine and yes till now he still plays in that gambling site but of course with limit and continues to dominate that site but of course with a  little profit each time.
and I believe that if you are a good gambler and knows about the game and the bets then limit wont bother you at all because you can still make money out of it.

If he has been limited, why do you think that is? They are not going to remove the limit just for asking for it. Limiting players who are perceived to be winners is a way of protecting the casino's finances, in the same way that there are betting limits on casino games to avoid breaking the bank.

This is curious, and we could get into an argument about whether it is morally reprehensible. I am not surprised by the measure taken in France:


Letting one player bet high limits because he loses and another player bet high limits because he wins is not clear.

There's no exemption when it comes to this and not only limited on Duelbits but also in other platforms as well specially if they do saw a particular player or bettor who do constantly win or simply being profitable.

We know that they are running a business and seeing someone who do make out wins even though not in a row but still ending up on considerable profits.

If you are been limited on the site then you could just simply find out other platforms which wont really be giving out those limitations but i do still highly doubt on that.

I recommend to OP that he continue playing with Duelbits and just asked to get the limit removed, if he is really good in sportsbook betting there are other sites as reputable as Duelbits try Stake or other sites that will not kick you out and accuse you of cheating whenever you are winning a big amount, Duelbits may have good reason to limit you based on their rules but they cannot limit you for a long time, they are giving a reason for a client to move out.

Limiting the maximum bet doesn’t affect the reputation of the site if they done this the right way, and the site have to inform the player for the reason of limiting their bets. For the situation of OP, I think he’s still a new player in Duelbits and the site sees that he won consecutively which trigger the alarm and the site enable the limit for him. I think it can still be remove once the sight sees no irregularities with your account.

Op did not provide us with enough data for his claim and if they impose it's because it's their house and their rules if you're winning a huge amount they have to protect the house without harming your account, as we've seen in the scam section, players are getting ban or kick out because they won a big amount of money, which is Duelbits will likely do so they opted to limit your bet, and besides all the other casinos are also doing that, its not something new, but questionable.

Good on you for being such a good gambler! You must be really good at predicting outcomes if they panicked and put a limit on your betting. Although it seems unfair, and most righteously so, it is a normal phenomenon in the gambling world. In real life, what happens when you sit at for example, a blackjack table and win too often? The casino gets suspicious and kicks you out. Especially if you are winning too much money.

Don't let it get you down, its just the way these things are.

Which casino site limits the bets of its users obviously it will put a bad value on the site itself, I haven't found a really effective trick to profit from casinos and gambling let alone beat the way their game machines work and I always lose, but strangely I'm happy with games at the casino even though i know no casino site wants to lose so in any way the casino site will always seek profit from gamblers

it makes sense. because it would be strange if the Casino limited their members because they often win.
there must be something wrong with the OP's account, or the documents used, and it was detected by the casino.
maybe I'm wrong. but the value is not commensurate with the reputation of a casino like Duelbit. since the shared screenshot is also not full, we don't know how the casino applies all of that to him.

Having a limit to sports gambling is normal because upon playing they need to make a settlement with the bets I experience this in another platform where they are having a withdrawal limit or make a game wage for a while to settle all of the bets of their player it been a while I've seen this kind of issue but it is okay you don't need to get bothered but in some point for sure there's a chance that you might skip one good bet to make a good profit, the ideal is to make bet if you think that's a good game so you can just small bet to the games you doubt too.

https://www.strafe.com/esports-betting/reviews/stake/
From that, I think you need to try some gambling sites that do not limit the number of bets, as for an example like what I read, it is in the link I mentioned above.

The OP is not completely providing the full detail of his case. Casino will not limit user easily by just winning to often. Based on the last reply of there support, They are suspecting that OP is doing something shady that result for most of his bet to frequently. The support do note that they limit the account as safety precaution in case OP is doing something wrong. The security team of the Casino might still investigating OP that’s why he still can bet but lower bet limit.

This kind of case is very peculiar because it’s very rare to see a player that win most of the time.  He can still bet so I believe it’s still reasonable.

I can feel you with this sentiment mate , because it felt frustrating and also being denied when you constantly winning with the amount of bets then all of a sudden will be limited while we knew that in gambling it is rare case to continuously win against the house.
but this is the truth mate and that is gambling is a business , either in favor of players or of owners? yet there are some changes to favor one and that is for the benefits of the team and the owner.

That's correct: OP make sure you don't create another accounts on the same platform, that's usually against the rules and you'll give them ammo to flag you as cheater.


Indeed, however an ongoing investigation can be a good official reason for the limiting. But with no word on that it's a bit odd imho. I didn't know though that this is a common (and legal) practice.
I do find it odd that OP haven't received (or posted) and answer to "why limit". I feel that an official answer to that would have been normal / more professional.


Some awareness never hurts. And I guess that if OP would be indeed so much understanding he would not complain. I understand your point about spam though.

This isn't surprising or anything. Sportsbooks hate consistent winners which is why they limit/restrict them asap in order to help their business stay afloat which makes sense if you think about from a financial perspective.

This sort of stuff happens all the time in the sports betting world which is something you just get used to over time op.

This is just my guess, saw from his previous post as well as the thread that he made besides this one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61057123, it seems that he bets on table tennis, maybe if he bets on other types of sports the limit will not occur.
As far as I know Duelbits does not require KYC unless there is something suspicious.
Like your suggestion if it doesn't make him comfortable the best way is to bet on other sportsbook,

Since you clearly mentioned about Understanding them and had been cleared by many gamblers including me that this is  normal in sports betting? I think there is nothing to further the discussion and we can move on?
with all those maybe closing this thread will save the spam to come , But your point of making this thread is better for the benefits of many gamblers specially those new in sports betting , so there will never any issue in the future about this instance .

Have you checked if you are the only one going through that in the casino. You may as well confirm from the other players to know before you accuse them of limiting your account.

It sounds different, because for mere amounts Duelbits one among the trusted list won't ruin it's reputation. As majority of the users mentioned it is all about the sports betting limit in accordance to the account in which different factors were taken into calculation for the maximum and minimum to be spent on sports events. Here his winning history too gets added and it is common thing with every platform. Op seems to be new and he's in his winning streak which makes his go for a bigger bet and unable to do it.

IMO sportsbooks and other gambling platforms typically limit your bet amount in an event of a win streak. They should be able to tell you this if you inquired as to why you can only bet certain amounts on certain events/games. They'd be more than willing to give you a reason for the decreased betting limits, and usually they'd go on for 'account verification' as a reason (based on my experience with Nitrogen). They'd usually return that to your normal limits once the 'verification' is concluded, or when they recovered from the losses they incurred from your win streak.

Happens even on land-based casinos. I guess it's time to change platform. Hopefully you don't create another account to bypass their limitations.

"win the system" really sounds shady but I doubt he's doing anything that's against their TOS. Duelbits couldn't provide evidence to substantiate the just limitation of his account or else his account should have been banned by now.

Here's a good example of how OP is "gaming the system" https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-tennis-is-the-best-sport-gambling-my-strategy-of-winning-5415726

They said on chat "certain events". All sportsbook?
IExactly, can you share if It possible in which type of events you get this restriction?
Why not just playing in other betting sites?
Last question, your account has completed KYC?

Based on the conversation it's for the time being only you may want to go back a few weeks and ask the support to lift the limit but hey Duelbits seems to be your lucky spot in gambling, sports betting is not a guarantee that you'll always win even in sports betting, all the other casinos also have a betting limit, you're not being picked because you are so good or maybe you are   but just the same keep on playing there, as it brings you a lot of money from your bets.

I personally suggest you don't just conclude they limited your betting amount on the account that you win alot, first contact their customer care, maybe there is another reason other than you win alot.

But also, if this is something you don't like or feel comfortable about, there are still several other highly reputable casinos available to try out, just go ahead and continue your winnings in another casino if duelbits thinks you've been winning too much on their casino... It's as simple as that.

^ Every betting site has its own limits and I think that is natural that there is an amount limit.
We know how reputable Duelbits is and I think in a few bucks of dollars they will destroy it easily, I think they will not.
However, if OP can provide further evidence against this to stand that Duelbits putting a low limit on his own account and different from others it should be a red flag to them but I think this is not true.

He doesn't say he registered and started to play there yesterday, in this post. Casinos/sportsbooks don't flag an account after only one day and few bets, otherwise they will need to flag anybody who have just a bit of luck. So I don't think so, he's certainly there since several months or weeks at least, if not they have detected something suspicious. Maybe his fingerprint is blacklisted or weird.

This could be the precautionary measure of Duelbits since the account is still new and winning that much easily can be a more suspicious transaction. For sure Duelbits have their own rules with regards to this one, though it’s also good to inform the gambler the reason why they are limiting the bet amount to avoid any issues like this, OP should also communicate with them.

judging by his previous post, he started playing here yesterday. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61052266 among other things, it's his thread in scam accusation where he complained about the problem with Bitstarz casino.
personally, now I'm a little suspicious of the complete legality of his participation in these casinos. I don't think $300 or $500 is worth the reputation risk for casinos like Duelbits or even Bitstarz.

If you are really a player that can predict with some sort of accuracy what is going to happen and you win often thanks to that ability then I have my doubts that this is the very first time that you have become limited by a casino, so while I can understand that you are not happy about something like this you better prepare yourself because this is something that is going to keep happening to you, because it is obvious casinos do not like players that can beat them over and over again.

It's their business rules.

Even you disagree with the rules, you're freely to not register while you're not agreeing with the term and conditions. However, your betting limit will increase depends on the account it self.

Like (Wagering and etc). New account with a small waggering is always have a small limit.

I would like to understand the following:

- Can you post your history of wins and losses?

- How long ago did you create an account?

- How long ago did you start winning constantly?

- what was the minimum and maximum amount you were betting?

- do you use other casinos to place bets using the same strategy or do you only use Duelbits? If you use other casinos to place bets, could you tell us which casinos you use?

Betting should be open to all way of bet,why you strictly on the 300$.We should bet with minimum of 100$,we can easily earn of 10$.I had think ,you concentrate on the 30$ profit from the 300 dollars.But you may lose 300 dollars,if you had a bad luck.So make some less amount of dollars as the first investments for bets.Once you learn the game fully,you can increase the bet amount.

And who gives them the right to limit it

I am glad for you that you are lucky in betting, apparently you had several wins one after the other, I read somewhere that Duelbits lowered the limit on betting to a player after he won four times in a row, and in general the betting company has the right to limit the maximum bet amount without explanation.

France's gambling regulator L'autorité nationale des jeux (ANJ) has warned operators against limiting players' stakes or refusing their bets entirely. ;)ANJ concluded that operators cannot refuse bets from a player, unless the operator has a legitimate reason as designated under article L. 121-11 of the French Code of Consumption. This means that an operator could argue that it has a legitimate reason not to accept a sports bet from a patron.
Legally defined legitimate reasons include refusing to allow a minor, someone who has self-excluded or an excessive bettor to gamble.

If article L. 121-11 is violated, operators can be fined up to €1,500, which could be increased to €3,000 if the violations are repeated.

In addition, offenders could receive two years in prison and a fine of €300,000.

Betting limits are literally normal on most casinos because their built casino is to get profit from gamblers are losing, if there's a lucky gamblers that consistently winning, they wouldn't get profit if the winners exceed from the losers.

If you don't want to get betting limits, I think you need to play in fiat casino e.g. Bet365 or physical casinos especially on Las Vegas.

In this matter I don't see Duelbits is wrong, so I don't completely sure what's the point you're trying to say here.

Are they considering something that they have data with? Like a calculation or computation with the amount of bet in dollars divided by total bets? Or something like that to see some factor or parameter for checking if it's somewhat unusual or abnormal in a standard setting? Or is it just a random thing they have to experience once in a while when losing?

This just proving if they're correct for limiting your account, figured out how to win the system seems like you're trying to say if you've exploited their system. Considering if you're just betting on sports bookies and doesn't doing anything harm to the casino, have you tried to play on the other bookies? I don't think there's a huge difference between Duelbits and the other sites since you're only need to guess which fighter/club will win.

How sure are you that you're not even been suspected for cheating or the likes, I don't think ordinarily they can limit your betting stake just like that except you also fail to realise some of their terms and conditions that may gives you room to increase your amount for betting, it maybe a kyc required procedures, i will advise you check deeply to understand the main reason that led to this restriction, come to think of it, they want everyone to play big and same way they can't stop you from claiming your winning, just check to be reassured the major reason.

Now Duelbits may have a function with their account system, where each account level has a set limit with each level higher having higher limits, or accounts under review have limits. Afaik sportsbooks themselves have a limit of bets for each match, so they may have applied it on each account instead of each match. And it is as you said, they limit it because casinos don't really want to go out of business due to a few bets, especially if it was from someone who has spent a low amount to their site. They're still a business after all.

Betting limits is normal.

It's happening for all-sport bet player, did you know "Stake" is also have a betting limit amount for each account. I don't really know the criteria to increase your betting limit, however it's happening on every casino.

Sportbets player always have a betting limit, especially for new account the limit is small.

This issue is not new and it’s happening on other trusted casino on user that win most of the time on sports betting. They are telling the truth that you are not profitable and casino is not in the business to give consistent profit to all players. You can still bet with limited funds meaning they still want you to play on there casino.

It’s either you will change your casino or accept that current betting limit. There security tram saw something on your betting pattern that alert them to limit you for now.

I just make research and know which players is more likely to win and see things that other don't see.
This why  they had to make adjustment in order not to lose. I understand them.

And what's their official stance? Did they accused you of cheating of some sort? Or are you under some investigation?
I mean I doubt they said "we'll limit your account because you're winning too much".

I don't take any side, but this is missing from your story/image and imho it's relevant.

I have been winning a lot in sportbook lately and they limit my bets for 70$ max on sport booking.  Only because I figured out how to win the system.
This is ridiculous. Bellow 300$ for bet I don't open my pc.

The team see that I can predict these things and beat them and change the maximum amount I can bet.



https://prnt.sc/jCMQwDn5lMQi



This is funny because I can still bet thousands of dollars on blackjack bets. Only sportsbook my account has been review by their team  because I win a lot. Is not profitable  for the casino to have me there.