Topic: dump the Trump? (Read 337 times)

I guess he is trying very hard to ignore that there are already two cases in which he has been declared guilty - including a civil trial for rape. With a jury and without a jury.

This is not rumours, nor any of the other cases presented which do have enough evidence to be considered for trial. See the difference: Trump did not present any evidence of his claims and thus his claims were not admitted.

That doesn't sound like you are interested in hearing any evidence, it sounds like you've already decided to vote for Trump regardless of what the evidence is.

The court is still trying to gather evidence whether the charges against him is true or not.
We don't have to easily agree to rumors because someone is accused of something and we started admitting that the person actually did such thing. We need to think very well and know that there is no way Trump would have the faculty to reap someone when he has the money and wealth to go for anyone he wants to go for without stress. The charges against home is a plot to drive him away from become the next American president.

dumBAss, you have provided exactly what I would expect: an answer that proves your ignorance and confirms that you just repeat things you have no clue about.

- Trump printed money like crazy.
- The other "half or the world" is even worse you stupid. They are either in full recession of in hyperinflation. Nearly all developed economies are struggling to get out of the inflation - seriously dumBAss what kind of shit do you read or listen too? You really do not know any of this? What kind of Tex-Mex peyote have you been using during the last two years??

do you actually have a clue of what Trump really did???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/14/trump-legacy-national-debt-increasee/

I'm too busy for more than a chuckle. You ask a question, and supply the answer, yourself.

Your self-supplied answer is >>> Trump. MAGA worked so extremely well that it has taken "Bidenomics" all this time to destroy some of it. You say "half of the world has higher inflation than the US" but you don't talk about the other half of the world. And you don't seem to realize that if Trump had taken office in 2020, he would have seen to it that the world didn't have much inflation at all, at the same time he was growing MAGA.

This means that world leaders would have been happy, and Putin never would have had any reason or desire to overrun Ukraine.

Now, I realize that you are simply somebody who has goals and desires like everybody else. But sometimes (a lot of the time?) you just can't seem to think past your nose. Would you ever be able to make it out of a wet paper bag?

Ok, so inflation is due to "Bidenomics". They perhaps you can tell me why half of the world has higher inflation than the US while the US is actually managing to grow salaries while controlling the inflation. I can already tell you are re-parroting something you have heard in your local MAGA shithole while not understanding a word of it.

dumBAss, look out of Texas, there is a whole wide world out there.

Correct! This isn't news. It's been happening for a long time.

I actually thought this was an actual news story until I read that.

When you look back over the last 100 years, you can see that often ideas and platforms supported by either Democrats or Republicans switched hands. Sometimes Reps promoted something that a decade later the Dems started promoting, and vice versa. But an almost completely new thing is happening now. Reps are promoting things the Dems promoted some years back. But Dems are promoting the destruction of America.

Here's evidence for the Rep part. It makes you want to support Trump rather than Biden, no matter which side you are on... Dem or Rep.


Teamsters Union Makes First Major GOP Donation Since 2004 Following Trump Meeting

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/teamsters-union-makes-first-major-gop-donation-2004-following-trump-meeting
Weeks after a meeting between former President Donald Trump and Teamsters Union leaders, including President Sean O'Brien and Secretary-Treasurer Fred Zuckerman, along with the union's executive board at their Washington, DC headquarters, America's most powerful labor union has made the first major donation to Republicans in two decades. This move has sparked huge concern that unions are losing faith in President Biden, lauded as the most pro-union president ever.

According to Axios, the Teamsters' political committee donated $45,000, the maximum amount permitted, to the Republican National Committee. This was the first 'big' donation the union has made to the RNC since 2004.

This comes after Trump attended a meeting with the heads of Teamsters last month. After the meeting, Trump told reporters: "We had a very strong meeting with the Teamsters." He added there was a very strong possibility that he would get their endorsement.

"Usually, a Republican wouldn't get that endorsement," Trump continued, adding he was in a greater position than other Republicans and that the union "never had ... a better four years than they had during the Trump administration."

Before January, Teamsters in Dec. 2023 donated $135,000 to the Democratic National Committee. The DNC also received $15,000 from the union in March 2023.

Teamsters represent about 1.3 million UPS and other transportation workers. Despite many other unions having already endorsed Biden, Teamsters has yet to endorse a candidate in the 2024 presidential race.

Trump's and Biden's campaigns are locked in a fight to win over blue-collar workers in crucial swing states ahead of the November elections. Biden has frequently touted his strong ties with labor unions. However, the president's failed economic policies, known as 'Bidenomics,' have crushed the working class under the weight of inflation.
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So, on one side he is pissed off because he has been - at least in you view = targeted, and on the other side he is going to target all those politicians and... do what? Either you are assuming Trump will be a fascist himself and use the means of the Government to target his rivals financially, legally or otherwise or you are ok with the "right kind of fascism" and the right kind of "targeting".

do you think that with Trump there will not be life long Republicans and companies getting a chunk of your taxes? do you think that the life long democrats are going to "evaporate"?

BTW, there were covid shutdowns under Trump, Nancy is no longer in politics after some bastard violently attacked his very old husband and if you speak of targeting, why don't you check what happened to the lives of many whose only fault was to be there when he lost the elections?

Trump in, yes. But you said a big thing there, "... gut liberal money... ."

When banks deposit promissory notes like they were checks or cash, and then make borrowers pay back the loans anyway, banks are enriched a full 100% for doing absolutely nothing... and then more when you consider the interest on the loans. And this includes government loans that they make to government to send to Ukraine, etc.

Now, who cares if the banks are enriched? Nobody until they start spending their money. Then we get inflation, like what is happening now.

If you look for it, you will find that Ukraine government bank accounts are getting money from somewhere, even though the US and Nato aren't funding them. Where is this money coming from? It's coming from the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank, and similar major banks, that have been sucking up the FREE 100% promissory note money that they have created out of thin air.


The point is that this is legal. It has been placed into the laws more than a hundred years ago. Does Trump even realize it?

The way to end the trouble is to shut the Fed down -- AFTER -- making them pay back the national debt to us. They owe us the national debt. We don't owe it to them. And as long as Trump doesn't have this in mind as part of his plan, he is just mediocre.

Btw, since the income tax is the measure used to determine if the government can borrow more, we wouldn't have any more IRS tax if the Fed were gone. And we don't need it. The US Treasury can print as much money as they need to promote their programs, all without taxation.

Because even in that statement, he is vowing to break the NATO pact. NATO is in the best interests of the US regardless how much much money certain countries pony up.

Of course when you combine that statement with numerous others, and his opposition to funding Ukraine, and his assistance with attacking Ukraine when he tried to extort them into starting an investigation into Biden, and his obvious fealty to Putin, and his ties to Russia before he was president, and Russia's assistance in helping Trump win.... etc. etc. etc.

All of this context makes it clear he will do Putin's bidding, and breaking up NATO has been the primary military objective for Russia in the post-WWII period. Without NATO, all EU countries are essentially defenseless against the Russian military.

But hey, maybe you Bitcoin will go up (or maybe it will fall by 80% like it was priced when Trump was president), so I guess that's worth risking your country getting treated like Ukraine has been treated, right?

Let's start with the fact that he isn't going to do it. What he said is that hje's against the US helping countries that don't invest in the military as much as they agreed to when they joined NATO, and why would I be scared?



It's far from it's ATH and the facts are that Biden's administration managed to delay ETFs as much as they could, but eventually lost mainly because the SEC lost in court and later was destroyed by Republicans in Congress. Warren was trying to spread lies and was called out, because lies are easy to disprove if there's someone willing to do it and luckily we had such people.

I think after what we've seen the last few years in politics, we need someone who is genuinely pissed off and wants revenge on those who have targeted him in this fascist attack against him.  Nobody could possibly know who is evil and trying to destroy democracy by shutting down political foes.  I want to see Trump get into Washington and absolutely gut liberal money wasting programs along with getting out all these lifelong politicians like Joe Biden, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi.  The three of them together are older than the United States for god's sake.  Get them out of politics and anyone else who has supported this travesty at the border, shutdowns over covid, or allowing woke nonsense in our schools.  Trump is perfect.

MAGA will die once Trump loses this November and half of Trump's voters will go back to voting Democrat or not voting like they used to, and half of them will join Nicky Haley's Republican party out of sheer zombie partisanship.

 

Trump is just beginning, and is just THE beginning of Making America Great Again. Trump's plans for removing corruption in America are something that God has been formulating into the mix for a long time. Now He is even using worldly people to help with it.


ROCKSTAR RECEPTION Steve Bannon declares MAGA could 'rule for 50 years' in fiery CPAC opener

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https://www.the-sun.com/news/10461743/steve-bannon-cpac-donald-trump-washington-dc/
DONALD Trump's former White House Chief of Staff Steve Bannon has declared "MAGA could rule for 50 years" at a fiery event on day one of this year's Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, DC.

The 70-year-old former Hollywood scriptwriter-turned-political spin doctor was given a rockstar's reception as he entered the room packed with supporters - some of whom had traveled from as far away as Romania.

VIDEO
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To be fair. If we are talking about BADecker, he has already kidn of shown his support or pointing out how the BRICS could use their alledged United currency in order to dethrone the United States Dollar off its status of reserve currency of the world (International commerce), so I am not sure whether he is actually as pro-dollsr as you assume. He is certainly pro-Bitcoin though.
You can think whatever you want about other people and their believes, there is nothing wrong with it, but in my opinion, the most dangerous trait of people who identify themselves as Republicans, MAGAs or against liberals, is who they indeed claim to be all in for the defense of the freedom of their nation and the people around the world as a whole, while at the same time they turn away their eyes to the blatant human rights violations going on in China and Russia. 
It is the kind of hypocrisy which sadly helps civilizations to give birth to the worst regimes in the history of humanity, those who only look at the façade of pro-freedom and alledged progress which is promised by demagogs will always end up serving ad useful idiots for the dictators of tomorrow.

Yes and no, a president making a statement about bitcoin could potentially increase or decrease confidence in the system, as you may think that a pro-bitcoin president would be more keen on passing legislation that would be beneficial for liquidity, easier investment (e.g. ETFs),...

However dumBAss is a mess of a thinker, he is pro bitcoin but also pro-dollar... as he is pro-liberty, but ok with Putler and the CCP, pro-US but would rather have the Republic of Texas independent, pro-US economy but happy to let China eat up the world...

Countless personalities and massive walltexting is what matters.

No, I actually said above that I don't think presidents have anything to do with Bitcoin prices.

Well, of course it isn't surprising that you don't understand. But didn't you talk about Bitcoin and Biden in your post? My post was simply showing that if you want to credit the Bitcoin upward move to Biden, it's because Biden has destroyed the value of the USD through the inflation he has caused. In other words, the effect of the value of the dollar going down is finally being seen in Bitcoin.

You might review statistics where Biden says inflation is a small amount. But all you have to do is go to Walmart and other stores where prices of tons of things have risen 50% or more during Biden's administration.

To say it again in a different way, the price of Bitcoin hasn't gone up. Rather, the value of the dollar has gone down. And it is surprising that 'they' (whoever they are) could contain Bitcoin for this long before its value arose like the value of store products... simply because the value of the Biden dollar went down.

Hope that's not too difficult for you to understand.

I can't for the life of me figure out what this has to do with my post. Can you explain?

As usual, you have it backwards.

How many people in the US have heard or not heard of Bitcoin? Of those who have heard, how many people use it... or other cryptocurrencies. I'm sure it's a significant number. But it isn't ANYWHERE NEAR the whole adult population.

On the other side of things, how many adults in the US use the Federal Reserve fiat note? Like almost 100%. And even those who don't use it have heard of it.

But did you notice that the value of the USDollar has gone way down with regard to what it can buy in the store? This happened under Biden's crazy rule. Trump was making America great again, which included bolstering the USD regarding its use for buying products at the store.

As usual, you are having a difficult time seeing past the end of your nose.



EDIT: Just think. If they somehow assassinate Trump, Tucker might be the natural choice. Lol.

So if Bitcoin goes up while Biden is president, then it's Trump's fault, but when it went down during Trump's presidency, it was Biden's fault. Sure.

Of course given Bitcoin's market volatility, the reality is that no president will make any difference in the price whatsoever, but that won't very good partisan politics I guess.

Bitcoin's all-time high's existed when it was $64,000 or $65,000.

Bitcoin has come back lately, not because of Biden, but because people are expecting a Trump win, and they are preparing for it. Notice that when Tucker Carlson announced and aired his Putin video - a Trump-style free enterprise interview video - that's when Bitcoin jumped $10,000 in two weeks - from the $42-thousands to the $52-thousands.

Bitcoin has leveled off because the big Bitcoin controllers are watching how the public is reacting to Trump-style freedom. So far, more and more people are siding with Trump, even though the Deep State monkeys are doing their utmost this side of assassinating him to stop him.

As usual, we are seeing right through your propaganda.

If Trump pulls the US out of NATO, which he has promised to do, then you won't be sitting comfortably in the EU anymore, and it won't matter how much your Bitcoin is worth .

Also, Bitcoin is bouncing off it's all-time highs under Biden, so I really can't imagine why you'd be against Biden if all you care about in the world is your Bitcoin price going up...

I'm not in the US so I'm looking at how all of it goes sitting comfortably in the EU.

To those of you who say Trump is the worst candidate, would you rather have Biden? I'm not a Trump lover, but from a bitcoiner's perspective Biden has been the worst. He gave free reign to attack bitcoin because he doesn't understand it and his friend Elizabeth Warren is working hard to tell lies about bitcoin like the one about it being used to finance Islamic terrorism.

I'd support either Rob Kennedy, or Vivek, but if it came down to Trump vs Biden, I'd vote for Trump. I don't agree with him on a few things, for instance I think that the US should continue to support Ukraine, but I'd hate myself if I helped Biden win. I'd vote for Trump, or not at all.

Some will, and as long as Trump can milk at least some part of the base - he will continue to pretend that he's running for president and the Republican establishment will have no choice but to pretend that they support him because they think they can't win without that part of the base. Trump running as independent would be their worst nightmare, and you know he'd do it just to spite everyone.


There have been many chances to draw all sorts of lines... never happened, won't happen now.

Whoever's on the lead, if it's still a geriatric one then we all know that the US citizens that are mostly comprised of working adults are definitely going to get the short end of the stick again, look at the average age of tenured senators and congressmen, they're too old to be deciding for the fate of the country, they're just beefing up their retirement money and benefits before their terms all end. People need to vote for someone that will be able to relate to the more general population.

It is not a secret that since Trump was first indicted, his apparent popularity has just increased among Republicans with each indictment and each trial. I would say those indictments actually helped him much to trash De Santis and getting him out of the race.
Though, regardless of the increase of popularity he has managed to materialize, I have heard some people talking about some poll where Trump support from Republicans would drop to 20% if he is indeed found to be guilty of a criminal accusation. I have not read the poll myself, so I am skeptical about it, since Trump continues to have pretty much a lot of influence over the uneducated Republican voter who does not seem to even care about reading the indictments or the search warrants used to recover those secret documents held in Mar a Lago.

Is there a chance a guilty declaration is where an important percentage of the Republican base draws the line?

Better for everyone except Trump.

Yes, I have no doubt that all this makes the bases cheer with excitement (not all the base, some will not vote for a convict) and yes normally it would be beneficial for the campaign. The point is that one thing is to love the guy and the other thing is to pay the bill for his crazyness.

Let me put it this way: I am ok with free icecream, and would eat and give superlikes, instagramit and cheer... if it costs a couple hundred bucks... I may want to check the quality, have just one scoop please and certainly try to give it up, particularly if there is a guy next door selling milkshakes at 50 cents.#

Sure "bases" want Trump, but are they going to have to pay Trump-mistake sized prices?

Oh... this came yesterday:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/19/politics/republicans-retiring-house/index.html

Populists exist everywhere. Bernie Sanders is a populist and got quite close to getting a nomination in 2016. But Trump has the advantage of Republicans deliberately dumbing down their base with FUD since 1980s at least.


There are primary elections where voters can pick from more than just two candidates. The actual presidential election in November is more similar to the second round of multi-candidate elections in other countries, when none of the candidates get 50%+ in the first round. And it's not like populists can't win in those multi-party elections...

Having said that, the electoral college bullshit is bullshit, and it should not exist in the 21st century. But that's a whole other story.


US is not in the business of improving lives in other countries so I don't think it would work that way regardless of who's the president. Obama bombed the shit out of other countries despite being reasonably "competent, decisive, and humble".

Ideally the US should focus in improving lives of people in the US (not vacuous MAGA nonsense but actual tangible stuff), and other countries should focus on improving themselves, but that requires actual effort so... unlikely.

U.S politics kinda confuse me I am not gonna lie. It is like common knowledge now that Trump is probably one of the worst candidates for president out there yet a lot still support him. Is there really no other candidate that can hold up republicans’ belief, ideologies, and values other than Trump himself?

none from the candidates running seem to be the best pick. I have heard Americans advocates for just voting for the lesser evil which in the previous election happened to be Biden. Now, lots of people despise Biden for his decisions. I come from a country with a different process of nominating presidency candidates. The presidential candidates are not limited to two only allowing for more options. I can not possibly imagine having to pick only between two people. It is not like you can not vote because if you don’t, the worse candidate may win.

US is a very powerful country, home to a lot of powerful people and should be treated as such. US has such great influences around the world that a development in the US can for sure improve the lives in different countries as well. Can you imagine the USA led by a competent, decisive, and humble leader?

Better for whom?

If anything, all these lawsuits make Trump a martyr for the "republican base", whatever that is these days. This is a very simple and easy to understand narrative - "swamp is attacking our hero".

And the "base" had a chance to choose less stupid candidates in the primaries but didn't.

I don't think the Republican voting base's love for Trump is rooted in anything rational.

If Trump dropped out of the race (for whatever reason), then 50% of Republican voters wouldn't even show up to vote, leading to massive landslides by the other side.

And Bannon was pardoned by Trump for ripping off his own voters. I'm not sure they care about money.

So yes, Trump has a huge support from the Republican bases, although you could argue that some may decide not to vote for a now convicted rapist according to some pols. But what is the problem now? The cost is becoming unbearable. Trump is certainly not going to self-finance anything related to his political career (he may not have it!), so every trial, like the one for raping and then besmirching the victim (85 million), the "little problem" in Newyork (385 million) and what ever is to come have to come from the donors and will not go to the campaign.

Would it not be better to "dump the Trump", let him pay (or not pay) for his own mistakes and support a candidate - possibly with a similar agenda but less stupid and less crazy - that is clean and can dedicate the funds to the campaign??