Topic: Easy way to accumulate BTC while still Hodling. (Read 535 times)

I am a bit late to the show. I am the CEO of Vertex Capital and Vertex.Market, which is our product.

First of all, everybody who said that trust is the most importnat thing, is in my opinion right. There is no doubt.

How does a platform gain trust? Google Adwords, coinmarketcap banners? No. Its proven that you do not.

The community and its feedback is a huge asset and very important to us.
Bitcointalk is exactly the place where trust can be built and should be built. How can a product become strong and ready to be unleashed to the wider public if it fails within the community?

We are also not here to replace localbitcoins. We couldn't if we wanted to. They are a pillar and an established business. We have signed with big otc dealers that previously used localbitcoins deals to use vertex, but its not a competition.

Main differences:

- Multiple Currencies
- Non listed currency trades possible
- Wallet to Wallet
- Lower fees
- Scam Insurance backed by lloyds of london syndicate (feb 20)
- Loss/theft Insruance backed by Lloyds of london syndicate (feb 20)
- SpaceX Shares (feb 20)
- Aramco Shares (feb 20)
- Various other asset tokenizations coming
- Streamlined process WITH NO CHAT!
- Multilingual (not switched on yet as we are still translating big parts)
- guaranteed 24h response time support

we have a 7 figure marketing budget to be released but we refuse to take big money for marketing, while we are working with the community.
Our main campaigns will start in Feb, after we reached expected 5% of the market cap in OTC retail trading.

and one more thing: I rather give every single user in this forum 10 USD in their wallet than 10 cents to google (if I could). This is why, we also rather want to use budget for referral marketing than direct google marketing.

Wait, what? moving your bitcoins to another wallet using Paypal? When was this started? As far as I know Paypal does not support any cryptocurrency even with giant, bitcoin. And the only thing you could do with paypal here in crypto space is a wallet receiver for your sold crypto in coinbase, so that will be in fiat and has no problem with paypal.

The platform would be helpful if the OP did not played it too safe for himself, everyone is right you don't need to be shy promoting the platform you were involve. However there is already a high competition in DEX, perhaps you have great deal for your potential users.

I've been using PayPal to move my Bitcoins to the other wallet and it all be fine but I'm not sure if we are using other than of Bitcoin. And I don't why it doesn't work with you mate. It may be because of the origin/or the place where you come from.

Back then, accumulating bitcoins while in trading is not hard to do if you have enough money. A lot of platforms that could help us, it all depends on our preferences.

PM me and I will set up your $10 kickback incentive mate.

Vertex charges 1% fees, but you can get that reduced to 0.1% if you stake the native VTEX token. Transaction times can be instant depending if it is a local bank transfer. I have had trades completed in 10 minutes, and other times up to 12 hours depending on how long it takes for the seller to receive the funds etc.

There are offerings from around the world. Where are you located in the world? I can find an offering in your country or region. Local bank transfer are instant, but international bank transfers can take a couple of business days, depending on the provider you are using.

Yes, even I can't see direct bank transfer option available onto the exchange and it might be a disadvantage of using vertex market because most of the traders would prefer direct bank transfer so that they could easily buy back the coins with direct bank transfers if needed and also it does not accumulate any hidden fees.

Vertex allows us to directly buy or sell our coins with variety of buyers/sellers listed there but yet I am not sure about the transaction time as usually P2P exchanges take some time processing the transactions which depends on the availability of the buyer/seller. We traders need fast transactions so that we don't skip any price change to fill our profits.

Lol. So you are just trying to promote your own website/platform. Why don't you just open a thread in announcement section and announce your service? Why are you "pretending" to be a user of vertex and asking about reviews? I am sure you know  everything about the platform and since you are already using it, does our review really matter to you? You are making your platform sound more fishy to be honest.

i'm sure there are many out there who still don't have access or can use paypal because it might be constrained by verification or something, so i'm not sure that the platform will be the first choice or just another alternative by many elements of society, but even so i believe your project will be good if you can do the promotion right

Accumulate of BTC is best idea to store value, but I dont really understand how this platform works,
maybe better is buying every dip at Bitmex?

I don't have a complete idea about the vertex exchange, for bank transfer how long it is going to take in order to receive the payment from the vertex exchange. I think there is no other exchange providing such opportunity to the people who are converting their BTC to their concerned fiat currency. How many countries are they transferring the fiat currency?

I think if you buy and hold BTC then it is definitely the easiest way to get BTC Because it depends entirely on your investment P2P trading platform is good and can easily be traded from your wallet. Now as each exchange side competes in the market Vertex Exchange is very effective in making small investments.

I just checked out the and it’s quite good, though not really what I’m expecting but it’s good. And I have not done any research about it, but you already said that you have been making use of their site and have been able to carry out trades successfully.

So, I don’t really have much to say and I’m also not planning to use it right now because I already have other platforms that I make use of when I want to sell my Bitcoins, even from my cryptocurrency wallet I can easily sell my bitcoins at any time and the money will be in my bank account within few hours. So, I don’t feel like I need another one to add up.

Lol. I wouldn't count on lending as well as i've lost quite some bitcoins when i tried that. But yeah, you can accumulate fiat by holding btc but to accumulate bitcoin? Try holding alts. The thing is, there's no assurance as the chances of you accumulating is the same as your holdings decreasing in value. If you don't want to shell out money, then use your patience in working for it. Join campaigns and services.

No offense OP, but I prefer to use my old exchange than to try a new exchange. By the way, there is no easy way to accumulate bitcoin while still holding except you use that bitcoin to lend it to the traders. You can earn some money from them especially if they still use your money to trade, and you can try at poloniex if you want

Trade over $100 is not easy, but if you have big funds, that would be easy for you to earn additional income for $10, but I won't do that because I prefer to make a small profit, but I can get over and over instead in one-time trade.

It is quite difficult to accumulate BTC due to its high volatility against the dollar, as we have to withdraw part of bitcoins to fiat to pay for our daily needs. It can easily afford rich people with incomes above the average, they can safely invest part of their wages in bitcoin, regardless of the current price.

Looking at their review https://steemit.com/vertex/@mustafacetin/vertex-platform-and-vertex-review I didn't find negatives but all are in good responses and I hope that this is not a paid reviews...

@OP, you'll never have to get shy to tell us about your participation in this platform is legit. You'll no need to hide unless you just played us and tried to fool the community.
The minimum investment is just only $50, and if we are able to gain 3-5% per day...not bad at all, at least you are profiting not losing.

still i cannot see who accumulating is going to happen when you make trades.
You don't know that those trades are going to be profitable on the end. You again risk your money.

It seems like a way to introduce this platform. This is not bad, as long as you don't include the referral link, everything will be fine. Are you the owner of this platform? Or are you their employee? This is not a problem, as long as it's a reputable platform, you'll be fine

Good for you and good luck.

I still prefer the old ones who had already built their trust to a lot of traders.
Yes, because of that I have learned to stay with 1 to 2 exchange only. Trust issues.

Although I would be willing to look at your platform later on. Just to check it out.
There have been a lot of exchange that is being created by now and the world of trading is being filled with scams and negative feedbacks.
I hope your have none of that. 

I was into many investmen or staking sites many of them are legit and paid well with the profits, many of them also scams and experienced a big loss. If i accumulate my results, i think i don't get profits at all or even a loss, it's just a no go. So i prefer doing work on signature also right now rather than investing on sites.

What I can understand from reading this, is that this might be your platform or you are been paid to promote this platform accordingly. Linking our own wallet to any such platform might be riskier any especially if we do not own any prior knowledge about the exchange.

Anyways, I liked the fact that vertex market offers and also it is available in most of the countries but using that exchange without any previous knowledge might be fatal as even few reputable exchanges which used to work appropriately are now tending to scam by unnecessarily banning user accounts so always try to use exchanges which are reputable ones and running since ages if we want to keep our funds safer.

Quite interesting but its a high capitalization for me. The higher you invest or trade the higher the returns. So basically this really needs a quite large fund. I think I'm still into signature campaigns for now. No amount or fund to put in. You just need to be industrious and diligent enough to do the tasks required.

It is important to note that the deposit is used for transaction fees and not to actually trade on the platform. So you can deposit $5-10 if you plan on trading with less than $1000.

If a user wants to sell BTC for fiat via bank transfer they can. The option is available there. There are also many international bank transfer offers available on Vertex.

The problem with Vertex is similar to what other P2P platforms are having. No Bank transfer option by default. For example, In India to sellers, all of the sellers are paying in Revolut or rarely Paypal, Common man will not take both as there will be fees or other hurdles when you take money into these. If there is a support team and also bank transfer as option then we may see some usefulness of Vertex.

There are many P2P trading platforms and make money from trading spreads. As for Vertex, I don't really trust their team. because they don't have a good reputation and when I'm stuck with transactions, I definitely won't be able to support and it might take a long time. I know Huobi OTC, which is the place to sell Bitcoin and P2P coins and extremely low fees. They have a community of over 200k members. So show me the advantages of Vertex and Huobi Global?

That amount for deposit is too big, and I don't feel comfortable since it was not yet known by many. Maybe I would go for it when it has minimum deposit of $1, which I think trusted. We can just easily fall on potential fraud exchanges, be vigilant in handling your btc to avoid losing huge funds. Selection reputable exchanges is the best options to do, for us to increase our btc holdings.

Maybe because they want tohave users directly that why they added this kind of promotions. In adsense they will not know if all of those who see ads will use that exchange samething with other ads. But the problem here is there still no review about exchange and we dont know if its safe to deposit 100$.

You don't need to pretend to be a merchant to promote that site, after I trace your conversation history almost all of them discuss Vertex exchange, You give a $ 10 promotion for every $ 100 trade, why don't you use that money to advertise on google adsense or popular sites like coinmarketcap, I think it's more effective to introduce your exchange to merchants.

There's not much risk in trying out new sites with small money. Maybe their promo of rewarding you for every 100 dollar trade will happen to be profitable.

If you're really trading from your wallet and their fees aren't very high it could be a good alternative to centralised exchanges. I haven't tried them yet but i'm interested.

Competition is good but it needs time to be recognized. Although the site is active in service for quite a while now, it's still new to the vocabulary of others, including me so expect questions and concerns everything about the site.

There is not much discussion on their ANN thread. They really need to work on promoting, advertising and marketing and not just by simply creating a thread by a person who directly involves in the company itself with positive feedback and review. Good reviews must come to the community so at least, maybe others will try the service as long as they see the company putting efforts in marketing.

But are you saying the wallet that you are trading in, is what gives you profit or your trading skill?
Therefore, is it a guarantee that the wallet assures of profit when you use it for trade? I think you have to answer to this angle more because it appears to me that is what you are saying.

I think this is not the easy way to accumulate BTC while still holding cause I'd rather stick to use reputable trading sites. You may have now positive review but how long would it last? It's hard to risk the newly created platform. We can still gain some satoshis by buying or selling it at the right time.

so he is part of vertex.market, ain't no shame on that.

more services like lbc and your vertex will compete in the market but you both are into one crypto industry. it will now just depend on how you market your company now. you started it with a more-like-a-spam thread but i believe you do have an ANN thread here which i once been there before. what is interesting is that vertex allow altcoins to be sold. last time i visited  i saw someone selling chainlink.

Just to remind, PayPal is not crypto-friendly (unless you sell a hardware wallet with cryptocurrency on it and have a proof of shipping it).
It is not friendly towards any sort of digital goods in general (there had been many cases that someone sold eg. World of Warcraft very valuable account via PayPal, and soon lost a chargeback case against the buyer who then got back both money and had ownership of account).

If they can fail, what makes you think your platform can't? At least, on their part, if they fail, WE know we can trust them to make it up to us. I'm not bringing down your platform or anything, but reputation precedes every type of quality you may present to us. And since your pretty much trying to fight over those big companies whom have existed for some time already, Give us something new. Something that would make us switch over to your platform, instead of saying that they would fail and you would not. Empty words tbh. 

I am stating that these big companies like Local Bitcoins and Paxful are indeed large and very powerful, but they are not at a point where they cannot fail. If they were as big as what some people say in this thread, then platforms like Vertex would never get a trade, however there is growing volume and traffic on Vertex.

The P2P market is growing exponentially and if Vertex can capture just a small % of that growth then it is in for some serious volumes.

They can surely fail but that doesn't mean the platforms you mention will impact them. I don't think it's a good goal to aim at any service to fail, mainly so with how more competition between services is actually a great thing for every user. It yields better quality service at a better price point. How can you not like that?

In the end, there is a niche for every service to serve. Those who don't mind KYC verification will stick to LBC, while those who don't want any of that will use a service that doesn't ask for your information. I however have yet to see how long such services can stay operational with more regulatory pressure forcing services to either comply or shut down.

Yes it is a promotion.
Most of the entries here are all the same.
They need to promote something for free, well that is a good idea right? Creating a thread first.
If it clicks then they might do something more in the future.

It is not bad to try something else. The real problem is the competition is growing.
Maybe a better feature could push us more to try it.

Just did a quick read of vertex market reviews and it's actually quite good though I don't want to easily believe in as it's mostly positive. 

Would you elaborate this? Quite confuse tho.

So this is certain promotion right? Well don't feel bad if people will find this site is unreliable since first we don't know if this site is trusted also there's bybit and bitmex which is reliable so why would we trust this platform? Maybe tell the owner to create a name first and do some marketing campaigns here so that he can gather more people and trust so that it will be worthy to go with.

Full disclosure - it's not my platform but I am involved with them directly. All that I have said is real from a trading perspective, but if it helps you make a better decision about the platform, yes I am involved with the platform but I am in no way a decision maker.

It's interesting that he came across this website and hurried up to notify us... after advertising it last year too and discussing on the thread of this service's ICO in ... 2018!

Easy way of accumulation happens with ease while holding. This is quite simple in my opinion, and it can be done ourselves without depending on other third parties. Just keep the assets on a separate wallet, and allocate a small fund separately for trading. Here we can try buying at a low price and sell at higher price and the profit needs to be accumulated to the wallet that's been kept for holding.

High chances. Newbie account + do refer unknown sites/platforms then most likely these sites are being owned by them or they are part of the team.

Thing here is that they do indirectly make a query rather than admitting that its theirs due to the reason that it might get some criticism instead.
I dont know why they do such things.Going back on topic, did he really think he can compete against LBC and Paxful? that would be hard.

So tell me, is this your platform or not?

There is no need to be shy. It's better to disclose that you're working for them instead of making up things.

Hello guys and gals,


I have been looking into strategies and solutions on how to accumulate BTC for the halving and have been using Vertex.Market (https://vertex.market). They are an interesting P2P trading platform like Paxful and LBC, but they have a great feature that allows you to trade from your own wallet and not have to send tokens directly to their platform. I have been doing it for two weeks now and have made gains with PayPal and just bought back into BTC on the platform, taking 3-5% profits per trade. They also have a promotion this month where you earn $10 in BTC for every trade over $100.

Please do your own research on the platform, but let me know what you think in the comments.

BTC TO THE MOON.

Disclaimer: I am affiliated with the platform.