Topic: Ebang Announces E9++, E10, and E10.1 (Read 14644 times)

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9.0.0.21
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E10.3:

10.0.1.10

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Please submited firwmware ebit e10.3 version 10.0.1.2 link download archive!

first update to E10.1 Firmware version number: Firmware –V9.1.5.8.tar
then
update to E10.1 Firmware version number: Firmware –V9.2.5.9.tar
& Sad

I turn on the device and the green light stays on and can't get the IP
I also tried the ip button but it didn't work and the lamp is still fixed
Fans also rotate at speed but do not connect to the network
please help

Good luck finding someone using it.
Most folks now avoid all Ebang miners like the Plague because they are crap and support from Ebang is non-existent.
Start here in this thread and also here in this thread to get other folks opinions about Ebang and their miners...

Hi  guys,  do you have  the REAL wattage consumption  for  E10.1 (18TH)  with the last firmware ?

http://miner.ebang.com.cn/upload/miner/cms/btc_upgrade_9.2.5.9.tar.gz


Someone has tested  it ?  if  pics or video with wattage meter could be posted would be better !

Thanks!

how u upgrade ur machine  its very unusual i cant find any guide for upgrade in google is their any guide for it.

On the website now is no more E10, but now they have E9.3 (16t) and E9.2(12t) both say they are their (sudo)10nm dw1228 (same used in E10.1) chip and gives 110w/th

They're all over the board with this stuff. What happened to the E10?? The E9++??? Support shows 9.2 firmware, but no 9.3 firmware. 9.3 is listed at $950 and 9.2 is listed at $1150. WHy would you price the higher th unit less??? Does 9.3 even exist?

I just don't really trust them. The power has always been more than advertised and the e10 looks like nowhere near the 90w/th they said. the e9+ consumers more than advertised although not terribly out of range. Support is non-existent, just look at their very first product the E9, those people who bought those totally got screwed, they basically never even supported them even when they were only weeks old.

Why are they making so many different products??? They could barely support it when they had 1 or 2 and I'm just talking firmware updates, hardware support never really seems to have existed. Now they have what...

• e9      -- basically while still less than a year old, they say too old no support not even if you want to buy parts
• e9+    -- seems to have been their most stable product although not without issues... lots of reports of bad boards and near zero support, I've not heard of one story where someone sent their broke machine in under warranty and it was actually fixed
• e9++  -- not sure if these ever existed but they were for sale for a while, I guess
• e10   -- advertised but I think never existed, I think just renamed e10.1
• e10.1  -- power seems to have been way off, based on website news they either didn't deliver alot of them or something went wrong with alot of them, they are offering some rebate to people but it's unclear what it's for
• e10.2  -- never seems to have existed, but was shown in chiense version of website for sale for a while
• e9.3  -- http://miner.ebang.com.cn/goods-9.html
• e9.2  -- http://miner.ebang.com.cn/goods-5.html

What the heck. Are 9.3 and 9.2 just attempts to use their underperforming dw1228 chips they were putting in the e10??

These products once you have them...if you can get them...if you want them... is they are what they are. If they work, great, if not, your SOL.  I've got 3 e9+ , 2 I bought from them directly though a very convoluted process mostly based on prayers and hope....but I did get them and those 2 work perfect since last fall since I got them aside from the 130w/th, another I got off ebay and it worked for a few weeks and 2 boards of the 3 went belly up...but I think whoever had this machine beat the crap out of it, it looked like it mined in an actual dirt mining pit it was so dirty and caked up.

I had high hopes they would have some integrity behind thier company, especially since they seem to have existed making other electronic communication hardware prior to going into the mining business. But...that hope has all been lost.

Hi All,

Today I experimented with different PLL settings on E10, measuring power consumption along the way. My power meter isn't fancy - just a cheap device bought on Ebay. Though, based on my experience in the past, I find it to be quite precise for my use.

So, the device is Ebit E10:
Systems software version: v8.0.0.38
Hardware version: EBAZ5506-02-QB_v1.0
FPGA software version: Fpga v1.0.2

The E10 is set up to work on Kano Pool. The only thing I changed is the PLL. I waited for at least 20 minutes after each PLL change, so that the miner would speed up and reach the expected performance.

The results are:



Notes:
I was unable to set PLL = 700. The value returned back to 680 after a reboot. I didn't try any values above that.
I didn't try any PLL values below 450 (is there a point to check these?!).
PLL = 601 is how it was reported in the Miner UI when I set it to 600. Looks like a rounding issue somewhere in the software.
PLL 500 seems to be LESS efficient than PLL 550 and 600. This is not a measurement error - I rechecked that several times, and always got about the same result.

Hope this helps...

P.S. I also tried the "Systems software version v8.0.0.58", but it doesn't let me set PLL to 680 (looks like 660 is its maximum). Therefore, I made all the tests with v8.0.0.38 and that's the version I'm running on my production machines.

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Yesterday Ebit published an upgrade for E10 containing BOOT5506_0B.bin and top_ctrl16_0B.bit files.


The upgrade procedure involves Ebit's MinerMini utility to upload the new firmware. It also insists to have SW v8.0.0.45 installed prior to the upgrade (included in the package).

I successfully did the upgrade, but didn't notice any significant changes. The only visual change is the hardware version field changed from EBAZ5506-02-QB_v1.0 to EBAZ5506-0b-QB_v1.0.

I stayed with the SW v8.0.0.45 after the upgrade. This version allows PLL to be set up to 680 (inclusive), and seem to work fine so far.

I heard they were selling them in Feb almost twice cheaper than $5800. May be now they can sell it for 15 hundreds lol

Regarding consumption - I'm sorry, let me be more specific
I didn't have opportunity to measure it using some special equipment, but I had power strip designed for max load 2kWt - it was good with 1.8kWt and 1.6kWt loads previously, and it didn't withstand this unit (powered off after ~30min)
So I concluded it's a little bit more that 2kWt (but definitely more than 1.8kWt)


update: 680pll, 19Th, consumption between 2.1 and 2.15kW

So they lied about the power specs?? Are they refunding for the difference vs what was promised?? What makes these worth $5500 for 18th/s vs antminer s9 that is 14th/s at $1400 (less with coupons)?? Idk how they managed to make a 10nm miner (i think thats what i read if not sorry) but uses A LOT more power than a miner that is over a year old and counting. Not only that they set the price super high for some odd reason...seems like they got too greedy.

Wow, so the power consumption is much more than was originally advertised.

I guess we know now why Ebang doesn't want to show the power consumption number at the website anymore. 

what do you need to hear guys as feedback?
about e10.1
1. the software is as crappy as previous e9+. still no root from manufacturer (but it can be hacked)
2. hashrate is as described, power cunsumption is like 2.2-2.4kWt
3. psu is integrated, it works
4. main board is connected directly in the blades - so no more wires except fan wires

but overall - it works

upd - didn't measure power using some special stuff. please check msg below with more info

As far as I know, Ebang has already started shipping the March batch of E10. Probably not all the miners are shipped (yet), but I already see offers from Chinese resellers to ship E10 within 1-3 business days. I didn't see any end-user feedback yet, though.

That's right. Ebang's customer service suck so hard, I can retire my vacuum cleaner.

Wouldn't buy anything from EBang in my life again.

I've seen absolutely no news about the E10 yet, but from what I can tell from their website the first few E10s will come out at the end of this month.

Miner reliability and customer support is something else you missed with the cons of the Ebit miners. This post and the quote within it should be enough to keep you well away from Ebang as a whole. Pricing on these things is a joke, and you're much better off even just getting an S9.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32223485

Is there any real user's feedback ?    Ebang’s Ebit miners are mostly popular in Asian countries, though they are trying to get to a wider market and their latest announcement of a 10 nm ASIC miner – the E10 made some waves.  It is however an expensive device and still hard to get with a minimum purchase quantity of 20 units and all batches already sold through the end of March.

Let me back up a little here. I have the ability to run 20 miners but I dont have 20 miners. I add one or two here and there. As things like noise and heat become an issue. They will be addressed. I have a room in my basement for them. It stays cooler down there all year long and the heat can be evacuated through the window. This is all temporary since I have a 3600Sq/f building being built on the other side of my property. It has its own 200 amp service and 16 foot ceilings to get heat up and out. I just dont want to wait for it to be done to start mining. That's why I threw that sub panel in the basement. I may never have 20 miners down there but it will be easy for me to unscrew it from the wall and move it all out to the building once its done. 

Yes 200 amp service at my house. 20 miners at 1600w is maxed out for me. All my appliances run on gas so all I need electricity for is lights and my fridge and freezer.

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most newer single family homes in the US over 1200sqft are going to have 200amp service which is 48,000 watts, if your running 1600w miners that's about 30 miners, run 20 and you have plenty of power left over for your actual home. 200 amp service entrance is quite common.
YOu can request up to 400amp residential service with no special requirements needed on the homeowners part except of course a 400 amp service entrance. Also, you can have as many meters as you want (pending local codes, some urban municipalities ban this), lots of people have a separate service entrance for their house and say a barn/outbuilding, so you can have 400amps on your house and another 400amp service on your barn, no problem.

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Do you have a normal power source? How can your network support 20 miners at same time?

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Yes this was disappointing. At $4400 each it would take an $88,000 investment to get them. Unless your BTC rich. It’s not gonna happen. I’d like to try one. At 18Th/s you could still roi in 90 days. I’d take that over an S9 at the prices they sell for.

It sucks because I am setup for 20 miners at my house. That’s  all I have power and plugs for. It sucks thinking about them roi in 90 days and the kind of monthly income that would come after that. I would have to borrow the 88k to buy them and then they would all have to work. Too risky. No can do, but dam I dream.

Did you think it was weird that they and Canaan did their events at the same time?  That obviously wasn't an accident, but I can't figure out which one was trying to steal the thunder. My guess is it was ebang messing with Canaan. They just seem way more.... Chinese.

Nope, minimum order quantity 20 units. 

So ebit is not selling small orders?

Haha, that makes sense. If you read your previous msg you can see how it can be misinterpreted

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Its to expensive,  would buy if it was 3000$ each like it should be.

It is GMT+8 so its up for sale now. The MOQ is killer...

86.000 USD invest to unknow company miners that was made for testing purpose? No thanks...

(Btw. stock for this BATCH-0 shows 770pcs, just to note...)

apparently, they are all sold out

Anyone knows
how much delivery cost to Canada (Toronto) would be?
At least approximately for 20 units?

At 1 pm Jan 4th, who knows what time zone. Min 20 units! And delivery is actually March 31st.

FYI to all, there is a flash sale on ebang for E10 delivery around end of Jan for USD4300

You are kidding right?

someone should host a group buy

No. A smaller node usually means less power consumption, but ultimately in the end a better-designed ASIC is what drives power consumption down. The best example of this that I can think of is the Pangolinminer/Whatsminer- it is made on 28nm but squeezed out still more juice out of the aging plaform. Just because the number is smaller does not mean the miner will be more efficient than a miner on a larger node. Also explains why not all 16nm chips are the same- Avalon is less efficient than Bitmain, etc.

so it is 1620 Watts ,  - why so much??  - nearly the same as S9.  But  10nm should be much more efficient as 14nm, shouldn't it ?

Yep, and gone.  Bitmain just trying to control the market again. 

T is Terahash. There's no way it would be simply 90W. W/T is a common way to express miner efficiency nowadays, sometimes preferred over W/GH in the product description for some miners. I still prefer good ol' W/GH over W/TH but that's just me.

What is power consumption??    They say:   " power consumption ratio is 90W/T "

- what does "T" mean?  "per Thash"?    Is it 90W * 18Th = 1620W?     Or just 90 Watt ?

Weren't S9's on sale last night for 2400?

Not sure who should go for this sale? Most of the small miners does not have 86k+$ to invest. I doubt resellers will be able to make huge profits on these also.

hehe, they lowered the price even more. This is second batch as it comes in March.

http://miner.ebang.com.cn/goods-2.html

Flash sale E10 18T 4300$
Minimum order qty 20

 

Not sure that anyone else can deliver 1000 machines today except Ebang.

Yeah, they are going to make people go talk with Bitmain, Canaan, Pangolinminer and Bitfury with that high amount price.

Thanks for the presentation event report.  

I was there at the e10 presentation in HangZhou, China.

The chip was produced by Samsung, the design of it and the PCB by Ebang.

There were 4 teams of non Chinese people at the event, 3 from Russia and 1 from Serbia. Every team was a large account to Ebang.

When they announced pricing, everyone was kind of a stunt. Everyone came optimistic to buy a whole lot, like 1000 machines. On that day they offered e10 for $5500, and no one bought anything.

Next day they lowered the price to $4900, and I still think that no one bought anything.

First batch delivery is set to 20.1.2018

Machine is real, I have seen it working, but just a bit expensive.

Said it once, and I'll say it again.

Their service is the worst, their product is "alright", their prices are now... outrageous....

No matter the mind backflips you have to make to get to "Ok fine, I'll buy one", you really shouldn't. Supporting a manufacturer who treats its customers worse than Bitmain (and that's a low bar) is committing some form of masochism.

FWIW, at one point, their ebit e9 (not the plus) would have been worth the purchase, but the latest models are outrageous at best.

No way I would buy 100 from them. They have shown to a) oversell and then give you the run around about putting it towards new miner when they get some which they can't tell you when,  or refund mabey weeks later b) offer near zero support c) a good percent, ~15%, from what I can tell (from my e9+'s and others) seem to go bad or one of the three boards goes bad d) the sales process is a joke, it's you badgering them via skype for invoices, confirmation of wired money and tracking numbers, they offer nothing up on their own.

c) coupled with b) is atrocious. a) is just criminal. d) is a sign of we have no idea what we're doing, we've never sold anything before

I think you read it wrong.

Pangolinminer sell their WhatsMiner hardware even for small quantity customers.
So you can order only one WhatsMiner M3 with the custom psu if you want to.

Ebang sells their Ebit hardware only for large quantity customers now, minimum order quantity 100 units.

 What the heck is retail-friendly about 100 units? LOL

Scrap'

You might not be spending as much as you think if thats the case.

Pay more and mine today?
You can't buy an E10 yet can you?

I would guess that you won't have an E10 in hand for at least a couple of months.
By that stage my S9's will have been mining already.
Yes you can actually get them from Bitmain I bought a dozen about a week and a half ago and I would say Bitmain will sell another batch of S9 before the E10 is on sale.

I wouldn't buy an A6 at this stage as I would actually need 3 to match the hash power of a pangolin miner and that would be about 3100w power consumption.
AT 2000w the Pangolin is within reason for me with the electricity price I pay but 3100w is too hungry for 10.5TH/s of 3 A6.
That idea may certainly be feasible for someone paying lower electricity cost though.

Certainly agree it has been ultra difficult to get the Pangolin miners.
I have failed with every batch over the last few weeks.
I was very lucky that a colleague of mine managed to get some and sold me some of his order.
Very nice guy.

They usually inform about 24hrs before the product is going online

I can assure you, Bitmain does not allow large customers (at least not from the US) to have access or knowledge of preorders before everyone else. We do a lot of business through Bitmain, but have never been able to get special treatment. If you have info that says otherwise, please let me know - I'd love to get special treatment  

Can you actually get the machine from bitmain, though?  They usually sell out their pre-orders in minutes.  If you've ever wondered why, it's because some people have done enough business with them that they can just make a phone call and pre-order the pre-order, leaving scraps for individual retail buyers. If you wait 3 months for delivery on your miners, it means you've missed out on 3 months of mining.  Pangolin's got a more retail-friendly set up and they release new miners pretty quickly, but you've still only got minutes to get your order in for a machine that's not so great. For that price, why not just find yourself a pair of a6 and not have to wait?

To each their own, but I'd rather pay more and mine today.

I'd love to know if the warranty can be transferred to other people. With a minimum order quantity of 100 units, I'm hoping the answer is yes.

I like the product, BUT
Much to expensive... nethash will explode next year... profits will get much smaller.

Good luck trying to mine 5000+ USD back into your pocket ==> will skip this

But I'm not paying $6,000 for an S9 I'm paying $2,700 from Bitmain.
When you put 13.5 TH/s for $2,700 VS 18 TH/s for $$5,200 it's not a good deal at all.
I can get 2 S9 so 27 TH/s for near the same price so I would say for hashing power the S9 is the most affordable miner for value right now...Or if noise and power consumption aren't an issue Pangolin miner have stock every few days for 11.5 TH/s for $1,188.

Agreed that a price dip in bitcoin would be beneficial for the price of miner's though.

I guess you haven't seen the stats on the 841 or the current prices for S9.

Hop on ebay and tell me if you can find an S9 for less than $6000.  Bitcoin going to $20k caused some serious fomo and there are way more buyeras than sellers right now.  Best thing that could happen would be for bitcoin to fall under 10 and stay there for at least a week or two and get some people out of the market.

These machines are probably the most afffordable miners in the world right now.

There's an old saying: everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.  I'll happily pay $5000 for an 18th e10 while everyone else is paying $6000 for an s9

price is high and availability is unknown right now

To be honest, Ebit pricing is NOT attractive at all. 18TH/s for $5230? Nah... 

Release dates?

The prices are on their website: http://miner.ebang.com.cn/

Of course, It is is not worth for that money. Irrespective of hardware quality, ROI will become a big question. Bitcoin price wont be going up all the time.

They are a private company and they can do whatever they want with their products. Like someone said , a group buy would solve this problem. My only concern is regarding the quality of these products. Do they worth those high prices?

Received reply from Ebit sales team. They need 100 units as minimum order  . We all need to stick together to break this monopoly. There is no fair trade happening with Chinese manufacturers.

i saw that the description was still showing 14nm process as well.... strange to me, are they trying to "trick" their customers or is the description page just not update" interesting to say the least.

I also do agree the price is insane. i guess we will find out more if other companies start putting out new miners. so far Avalon isnt using a new process, the dragonminter looks like a fake. I just dont see how Ebang successfully used 10nm process in miners when intel cant even use the same process in high powered products. this is an interesting article about intel and 10nm: https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Rumor-Intel-Intentionally-Holding-Back-10nm

They have not put up any stock yet, they are not actually sold out. 

The description of the E9++ and E10 both say 10nm, the spec sheet for both miners says Chip Info DW1227 132pcs（14nm LPP process)....

Unless they drop the price or Bitmain raises theirs I dont see why anyone would by these. Why would anyone pay $1500 for 4 more TH, E9++/E10? Getting them a month earlier does not make up the price difference. Unless you are only reselling them to ebay suckers.

Ive been running 2 E9 6.5TH for a while and have not had any issues so I was ready to place a big order for the E9++.  But with the illogical pricing and their non existent customer support I think Im going to pass on Ebit for now.

So i saw that Ebang had their new miners posted to their site (already sold out or maybe havent been up for sale yet), including their E10 which says its based on 10nm tech. I have been reading about new nm tech on here for a while, and it seems there is no way it is possible to have 10nm tech in miners yet because they have only been used in low power tech like cell phone... @notsofuzzy how is it possible that they are ready to sell them in Jan already? im super confused now.

http://miner.ebang.com.cn/goods-2.html

It is my guess that $200/Th is going to become the new norm

what more info is there that you need? Its a crazy overpriced miner that has efficiency rivaled by the avalon 841 at double the price.

does anyone have more info about this miner?

dont see any link in their site.

This is not a game for the average person anymore. With these prices, only companies can buy.

I was also quoted the same prices.

Just when we thought Bitmain were taking advantage of the sitation, Ebang have come in and defined capitalism on steroids.

i am staying away, thought these new companies like Ebit and others will be better. But i guess that among all these thieves Bitmain is a better one

Just had a message from Ivy,

" just now got a news from our management: E9++price is 3680$ per unit. PSU is 100$. E10 price is 4980$ include the PSU. MOQ is 100PCS, delivery time is end of Jan."

So I suppose , if people want to buy then group buy ?

RMB1900 per TH? its around USD288 per TH. whoa

No I just pasted the wrong link, let me fix.

The RMB number is what they quoted at the show.

Maybe you are missing something there? First and third picture are the same? Maybe you have pasted wrong link or something like that...

I have just seen those pricing numbers.. 4043.48 for 14 TH/s and 5198.76 for 18 TH/s , IS THIS FOR REAL?

How long away are we talking about?

I have someone on the ground there who has seen the live demo in person, he is sending me the info live as its happening. They announced production is starting in January. Apparently Samsung was involved in the creation of the chip.

AND it is just a PR pitch.
Maybe - just maybe - they have Engineering samples to tinker with but that is a far cry from anything even close to production status.

Again it MUST be emphasized that 10nm miner chips are a long way off. As said elsewhere, the '10nm' chips used in the latest Galaxy and iPhones are cheaters - only memory cells are 10nm. Toss in that that these nodes are targeting mobile apps - read as low-power - what is possible with a chip pulling under 500mw is a helluva long way from one pulling 10W or more. Just as happened at 16/14nm ya know they are going to pack in as many cores as possible meaning many watts of power per-chip.

Considering this is 10nm the efficiency is pretty underwhelming.

Direct from the trade show.

Ebit E9++

https://i.imgur.com/8ru6tWt.jpg


Ebit E10

https://i.imgur.com/rP4rYEf.jpg


Ebit E10.1

https://i.imgur.com/94ORIYp.jpg


Pricing is RMB1900/TH

which is almost 30% more than bitmains current pricing.