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PayPal和Western Union必须承认数字加密货币是一个迫在眉睫的威胁。问题是无任他们是否是抵制还是拥抱数字加密货币，几年后，他们良好的商誉将成为历史。
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PayPal和Western Union必须承认数字加密货币是一个迫在眉睫的威胁。问题是无任他们是否是抵制还是拥抱数字加密货币，几年后，他们良好的商誉将成为历史。
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两个星期前，Western Union获得专利——替代性价值交换系统和方式。简单来说，该系统可让一家公司使用和接受替代货币。专利申请始于2009年，那时替代货币包括以货易货卡，纸黄金，还有各种网络虚拟货币，比如第二人生和魔兽世界。我们应该了解的是，Western Union对比特币不仅仅是感兴趣，而是对这一块虚拟商品市场份额志在必得。
但，不幸的是，该专利有如下几个细节可能和比特币本身特征重叠。
1.货币的买家和卖家可以公告他们达的成交价格和数量意向。
2.系统的发明人将充当交易所身份，用于促进替代货币的交易。
3.替代货币交易所将充当元社区身份，一个社区由多个小社区组成，社区的共同特点是，他们都使用替代货币。
4.使用者可以使用替代货币钱包，用于存储和转让替代货币。
这还不是全部，在去年三月，eBay提出了另一个用于比特币交易的专利。根据CEO John Donahoe的言论，这一专利可能是用于存储各种数字货币的钱包。
这看起来更像一个多币种钱包，将允许用户使用PayPal账户存放和使用比特币。这一工具肯定会引起对比特币的广为关注。
但是现在实一点，大额转账交易公司无时无刻不想将比特币掐死在萌牙阶段。对比特币的拥抱还远远谈不上宽容。值得怀疑的是，PayPal是否真的乐意将比特币无限止地和他们自己的货币进行兑换。特别的，Western Union只不过想阻止客户知道现行的货币交易手续费是非常昂贵的。
防范电子加密货币基金会的Reed Jessen从一个律师的角度写了一篇论述详细的文章，发表在Coindesk上。还没有失去一切，他总结到。比如，Western Union拥有专利，允许人们对数字货币交易进行评价，以供参与交易的公司有第三方评价参考。
但所有这些专利可能在比特币面前都显得无意义。其中一个主要原因是，比特币是去中心化的，它的用户和爱好者有充分的理由保持这种去中心化。就像因特网，各色各样的专利，最终伤害了互联网的发展。和3D打印的专利不一样，在数字加密货币里，解决问题并不存在唯一的方法。这种混杂了各种技术的方式是不可能被专利化的。
PayPal和Western Union必须承认数字加密货币是一个迫在眉睫的威胁。问题是无任他们是否是抵制还是拥抱数字加密货币，几年后，他们良好的商誉将成为历史。
转自：比特人
但，不幸的是，该专利有如下几个细节可能和比特币本身特征重叠。
1.货币的买家和卖家可以公告他们达的成交价格和数量意向。
2.系统的发明人将充当交易所身份，用于促进替代货币的交易。
3.替代货币交易所将充当元社区身份，一个社区由多个小社区组成，社区的共同特点是，他们都使用替代货币。
4.使用者可以使用替代货币钱包，用于存储和转让替代货币。
这还不是全部，在去年三月，eBay提出了另一个用于比特币交易的专利。根据CEO John Donahoe的言论，这一专利可能是用于存储各种数字货币的钱包。
这看起来更像一个多币种钱包，将允许用户使用PayPal账户存放和使用比特币。这一工具肯定会引起对比特币的广为关注。
但是现在实一点，大额转账交易公司无时无刻不想将比特币掐死在萌牙阶段。对比特币的拥抱还远远谈不上宽容。值得怀疑的是，PayPal是否真的乐意将比特币无限止地和他们自己的货币进行兑换。特别的，Western Union只不过想阻止客户知道现行的货币交易手续费是非常昂贵的。
防范电子加密货币基金会的Reed Jessen从一个律师的角度写了一篇论述详细的文章，发表在Coindesk上。还没有失去一切，他总结到。比如，Western Union拥有专利，允许人们对数字货币交易进行评价，以供参与交易的公司有第三方评价参考。
但所有这些专利可能在比特币面前都显得无意义。其中一个主要原因是，比特币是去中心化的，它的用户和爱好者有充分的理由保持这种去中心化。就像因特网，各色各样的专利，最终伤害了互联网的发展。和3D打印的专利不一样，在数字加密货币里，解决问题并不存在唯一的方法。这种混杂了各种技术的方式是不可能被专利化的。
PayPal和Western Union必须承认数字加密货币是一个迫在眉睫的威胁。问题是无任他们是否是抵制还是拥抱数字加密货币，几年后，他们良好的商誉将成为历史。
转自：比特人
基本没威胁
BTC世界里面都是匿名的 要起诉估计也找不到对象
BTC世界里面都是匿名的 要起诉估计也找不到对象
他们是在研发如何使用BTC呢，还是在研发一个替代BTC的系统呢 
确实有点耸人听闻，但觉得可能性不大
专利申请有啥用？
难道他们去起诉中本聪？哈哈
难道他们去起诉中本聪？哈哈
楼主你搞啥 不知道这里是中文板块吗 你贴了说明你应该看的懂吧 既然看的懂 给我们翻译一下吧
比特币还有很长的一段路要走
不如中国的利空呢
没什么能威胁到比特币。
比特币的对手仍然是货币。
请谁帮忙翻译一下。
谁来翻译呢
请谁帮忙翻译一下。
近几个月来，不乏惊人的标题，内容详细说明了一些主流金融和科技巨头如eBay ， IBM和摩根大通，可能正通过战略专利申请，寻求进入或影响比特币领域。
最新加入专利申请队伍的是科罗拉多州的汇款巨头西联汇款，它在4月1日获得专利，专利报告提出对该公司授予比特币产业的一个重要方面 – 另类货币（alternative currencies）兑换的专利。
尽管是耸人听闻的头条新闻，但是，仍然不清楚比特币有哪些潜在影响，如果有的话，这样的专利将会对比特币的企业提供类似服务或产品的能力。
现在的问题是，比特币信徒们该是多么担心这些高调的专利申请？
评论：战略专利申请，寻求进入或影响比特币领域。信徒们担心也没有，谁又能高屋建瓴地看清华尔街的战略布局？
Do Patent Filings from eBay and Western Union Pose a Threat to Bitcoin?
In recent months, there has been no shortage of potentially alarming headlines detailing how mainstream financial and tech giants such as eBay, IBM and JPMorgan may be looking to enter or impact the bitcoin space with strategic patent filings.
The most recent company to enter these ranks was Colorado-based remittance giant Western Union, which received a patent on 1st April that reports have suggested would give the company a claim to a key aspect of the bitcoin industry – the exchange of alternative currencies.
Despite the sensational headlines, however, it has remained unclear as to what potential effect, if any, such a patent would have on the ability of bitcoin businesses to provide similar services or offerings.
The question remained, how worried should bitcoiners be about these high-profile patent filings?
Community concern
One patent analyst and bitcoin enthusiast believes the threat of such actions is not only real, but that it’s one that the bitcoin industry needs to actively defend against.
To this end, Reed Jessen, founder of the Cryptocurrency Defense Foundation(CDF), is seeking to protect the bitcoin space from such intrusion through the strategic filing of patents.
“Our goal will be to protect the fledgling cryptocurrencies of the world from the repressive pressures of the patent system and allow them to compete based on the merits of their use, not on government-granted monopolies,” said Jessen in the CDF’s launch statement.
The service would be offered royalty-free to companies that agree not to assert their patents against others in the industry.
More broadly, the CDF would seek to build a patent portfolio to promote and defend the community’s interests and business ambitions, especially given that its research suggests 65 patents related to cryptography have been filed by companies such as QUALCOMM and Visa.
With this in mind, CoinDesk asked Jessen to analyze three recent digital currency related patents – filed by eBay, Gemalto and Western Union – to illustrate their potential impact on the bitcoin space.
Though he notes his assessments represent his opinion and not any legal judgement or advice, Jessen provides a look at how the claims – both those pending and those approved – could impact digital currency businesses.
Western Union
In Jessen’s view, the Western Union patent does give the company exclusive rights to an exchange that allows users to trade digital currency for fiat currency, though the actual system to which Western Union is entitled these rights is far more narrow.
For example, the system protected by Western Union’s patent would provide users with a list of people looking to sell fiat for digital currency and allow these individuals to select the person with whom they would like to trade.
Western Union’s patent also notably calls for an “assessor” that would analyze the offer and score them based on their value. The assessor would then award both individuals proposed trade scores, and both parties would decide whether to execute the trade based on such information.
Jessen concluded that due to these specifications, any effect on the bitcoin space as a result of the patent is likely to be limited, explaining:
“This patent only grants Western Union the right to stop someone from using the ‘assessor’ functionality for 20 years, not the right to exclude people from using exchanges to trade money. If your exchange does not have an ‘assessor’, it does not apply to you.”
Western Union provided comment on its filing to CoinDesk, though the statement did not provide clarity as to its goal for the patent:
“Western Union generally does not comment on specific intellectual property assets. That said, we have, and will continue to explore opportunities that build on our experience and expertise in the various facets of the money transfer market.”
eBay
Unlike Western Union’s filing, which was recently granted, eBay’s patent for a “System and method for managing transactions in a digital marketplace” is currently pending approval. However, it has grabbed headlines due to eBay’s past statementsabout its active interest in the digital currency space.
This patent, filed in December 2011, describes a system that determines whether a customer is buying unique digital goods and makes adjustments to avoid this overlap.
According to Jessen, the process would work like this:
“If you are attempting to buy the album ‘Abbey Road’ by the Beatles on iTunes (or some other music service), but have previously purchased ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’, this program will identify that you already own the song and instead sell you ‘Abbey Road’ minus ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’ at a reduced costs.”
Bitcoin, however, could still be affected by the system, he said:
“This patent relates to cryptocurrencies only tangentially in that [it describes] doing this process with a privately issued currency like airline miles or bitcoin.”
Gemalto
Of the three patents, the implications of software developer Gemalto‘s pending patent application for a “Transaction method between two entities providing anonymity revocation for tree-based schemes without trusted party” may be perhaps the most related to digital currency.
Filed in April 2008, Jessen described the patent application as “very closely related to the concept of the block chain”. He noted it uses public key encryption, but adds additional anonymity features.
Overall, Jessen suggests the patent could have implications for alternate uses of the block chain, saying:
“They are proposing a cryptocurrency scheme without the need for access to the Internet.”
As with eBay’s filing, however, the patent has not been approve and may never be granted.
Business idea illustration via Shutterstock
本文固定链接: 三个硬币 | http://www.3-coin.com/2014-05-19/1764/
最新加入专利申请队伍的是科罗拉多州的汇款巨头西联汇款，它在4月1日获得专利，专利报告提出对该公司授予比特币产业的一个重要方面 – 另类货币（alternative currencies）兑换的专利。
尽管是耸人听闻的头条新闻，但是，仍然不清楚比特币有哪些潜在影响，如果有的话，这样的专利将会对比特币的企业提供类似服务或产品的能力。
现在的问题是，比特币信徒们该是多么担心这些高调的专利申请？
评论：战略专利申请，寻求进入或影响比特币领域。信徒们担心也没有，谁又能高屋建瓴地看清华尔街的战略布局？
Do Patent Filings from eBay and Western Union Pose a Threat to Bitcoin?
In recent months, there has been no shortage of potentially alarming headlines detailing how mainstream financial and tech giants such as eBay, IBM and JPMorgan may be looking to enter or impact the bitcoin space with strategic patent filings.
The most recent company to enter these ranks was Colorado-based remittance giant Western Union, which received a patent on 1st April that reports have suggested would give the company a claim to a key aspect of the bitcoin industry – the exchange of alternative currencies.
Despite the sensational headlines, however, it has remained unclear as to what potential effect, if any, such a patent would have on the ability of bitcoin businesses to provide similar services or offerings.
The question remained, how worried should bitcoiners be about these high-profile patent filings?
Community concern
One patent analyst and bitcoin enthusiast believes the threat of such actions is not only real, but that it’s one that the bitcoin industry needs to actively defend against.
To this end, Reed Jessen, founder of the Cryptocurrency Defense Foundation(CDF), is seeking to protect the bitcoin space from such intrusion through the strategic filing of patents.
“Our goal will be to protect the fledgling cryptocurrencies of the world from the repressive pressures of the patent system and allow them to compete based on the merits of their use, not on government-granted monopolies,” said Jessen in the CDF’s launch statement.
The service would be offered royalty-free to companies that agree not to assert their patents against others in the industry.
More broadly, the CDF would seek to build a patent portfolio to promote and defend the community’s interests and business ambitions, especially given that its research suggests 65 patents related to cryptography have been filed by companies such as QUALCOMM and Visa.
With this in mind, CoinDesk asked Jessen to analyze three recent digital currency related patents – filed by eBay, Gemalto and Western Union – to illustrate their potential impact on the bitcoin space.
Though he notes his assessments represent his opinion and not any legal judgement or advice, Jessen provides a look at how the claims – both those pending and those approved – could impact digital currency businesses.
Western Union
In Jessen’s view, the Western Union patent does give the company exclusive rights to an exchange that allows users to trade digital currency for fiat currency, though the actual system to which Western Union is entitled these rights is far more narrow.
For example, the system protected by Western Union’s patent would provide users with a list of people looking to sell fiat for digital currency and allow these individuals to select the person with whom they would like to trade.
Western Union’s patent also notably calls for an “assessor” that would analyze the offer and score them based on their value. The assessor would then award both individuals proposed trade scores, and both parties would decide whether to execute the trade based on such information.
Jessen concluded that due to these specifications, any effect on the bitcoin space as a result of the patent is likely to be limited, explaining:
“This patent only grants Western Union the right to stop someone from using the ‘assessor’ functionality for 20 years, not the right to exclude people from using exchanges to trade money. If your exchange does not have an ‘assessor’, it does not apply to you.”
Western Union provided comment on its filing to CoinDesk, though the statement did not provide clarity as to its goal for the patent:
“Western Union generally does not comment on specific intellectual property assets. That said, we have, and will continue to explore opportunities that build on our experience and expertise in the various facets of the money transfer market.”
eBay
Unlike Western Union’s filing, which was recently granted, eBay’s patent for a “System and method for managing transactions in a digital marketplace” is currently pending approval. However, it has grabbed headlines due to eBay’s past statementsabout its active interest in the digital currency space.
This patent, filed in December 2011, describes a system that determines whether a customer is buying unique digital goods and makes adjustments to avoid this overlap.
According to Jessen, the process would work like this:
“If you are attempting to buy the album ‘Abbey Road’ by the Beatles on iTunes (or some other music service), but have previously purchased ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’, this program will identify that you already own the song and instead sell you ‘Abbey Road’ minus ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’ at a reduced costs.”
Bitcoin, however, could still be affected by the system, he said:
“This patent relates to cryptocurrencies only tangentially in that [it describes] doing this process with a privately issued currency like airline miles or bitcoin.”
Gemalto
Of the three patents, the implications of software developer Gemalto‘s pending patent application for a “Transaction method between two entities providing anonymity revocation for tree-based schemes without trusted party” may be perhaps the most related to digital currency.
Filed in April 2008, Jessen described the patent application as “very closely related to the concept of the block chain”. He noted it uses public key encryption, but adds additional anonymity features.
Overall, Jessen suggests the patent could have implications for alternate uses of the block chain, saying:
“They are proposing a cryptocurrency scheme without the need for access to the Internet.”
As with eBay’s filing, however, the patent has not been approve and may never be granted.
Business idea illustration via Shutterstock
本文固定链接: 三个硬币 | http://www.3-coin.com/2014-05-19/1764/
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