Topic: Ebola has reached America (Read 4067 times)

I believe this is going to be a reality and is a major concern of all governments throughout the world.
matter of time before" ebola "is carried to every corner of the world”?

Most democrats are openly in support of depopulation

Abortion, gay marriage, birth control, all great means of population control.

I know Bill Gates is a big fan of depopulation... I guess he has a sweet smile on his face.

Fox’s Ebola coverage is ‘a level of ignorance we should not allow'

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/pbs-science-reporter-foxs-ebola-coverage-is-a-level-of-ignorance-we-should-not-allow/

Miles O’Brien, the science correspondent for PBS Newshour, lamented on Sunday that he was embarrassed at some of the coverage of Ebola on Fox News that had a “racial component,” and seemed intended to scare viewers.

On the Sunday edition of CNN’s Reliable Sources, host Brian Stelter looked back at the last week’s coverage of Ebola on Fox News. In one case, Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck seemed almost disappointed when an expert downplayed the threat of the disease in the United States.

“We’ve heard the words ‘Ebola in America,’ a lot the past few days,” Stelter noted. “It’s technically true. There is a case of Ebola here in America. But to say Ebola is here, doesn’t that sort of inflame people’s fears?”

“It borders on irresponsibility when people get on television and start talking that way when they should know better,” O’Brien explained. “They should do their homework and they should report in a responsible manner.”

“Unfortunately, it’s a very competitive business, the business we’re in, and there is a perception that by hyping up this threat, you draw people’s attention,” he added. “That’s a shame to even say that and I get embarrassed for our brethren in journalism.”

Stelter also pointed to Fox News host Andrea Tantaros, who had warned viewers that West Africans might come to the U.S. infected with Ebola, and then go to a “witch doctor” instead of the hospital.

“We could digress into what motivated that and perhaps the racial component of all this, the arrogance, the first world versus third world statements and implications of just that,” O’Brien remarked. “It’s offensive on several levels and it reflects, frankly, a level of ignorance which we should not allow in our media and in our discourse.”

Don't worry, Obama will deport it for not having a permit

Soon enough people will be carrying chlorine sprays 

This ridicoulus low price was debated in other subforums here and is not related to ebola. Big trades are going on. Someone told us about maybe early adopters dumping some of their stocks.. Just look in the main subforums not in the "Other" one.

America needs to stop it right now....because it can reproduced and then it will be too late to stop

Do you have a source on this? I know you can catch the virus while it is still in the incubation period (21 days) and I don't think there are that many instances of this kind of bodily fluid swaps to cause it to spread

Only if person developed symptoms of the desease. Don't forget that saliva and perspiration also contain antibodies which are capable to neutralize the virus particles. If there are no symptoms then there is not enough virus titres in the fluids to get infection. But the blood and semen, on the other hand, have very high titres of virus even if there are no symptoms developed yet.

You can dispute facts with logic and other facts. Dismissing them offhand shows that you are not aware of the facts.

Is the CDC doing any titer testing for Ebola?

People's blog posts are always a credible source of news and facts.   

#Ebola: 47 questions and answers that will set your hair on fire

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/ebolagate-47-questions-and-answers/

+1. Good news for legit cell phone owners. 

Just don't use a stolen cell phone.

So let me get this straight in my mind... The CDC Director says that a travel ban would have made Ebola worse. So he is saying by banning air travel from Ebolaville to the USA would cause more Ebola in the USA. That is some pretty fucked up logic!

CDC director: Travel ban could make Ebola outbreak worse

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219786-cdc-director-travel-ban-could-make-ebola-outbreak-worse

Hi this is American Airlines we jsut wanted to inform you that you were on flight #XXX and that you sat next to Us Ebola patient #1. If you have any questions or concerns please contact our customer service line at 1-800-XXX-XXXX.

Thank you again for flying on American Airlines.

Is spit ending up on a cell phone really that unrealistic of a scenario? Or sweat in the middle of Africa for the matter? It doesn't take much.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/man-gets-ebola-cell-phone-he-stole-ebola-patient-242189

This is possible however in order for this to happen the cell phone would have needed to have blood, spit (not 100% sure on this), snot, tears, sweat (probably most likely) or something similar from the infected person, then the other person would need to get this bodily fluid into their own body (maybe by rubbing their eye). I would say that this would be very unusual and would not be unsafe to use the same cell phone as someone who is infected

"Whatever may be done to guard against interruptions of supply and to develop domestic alternatives, the U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. That fact gives the U.S. enhanced interest in the political, economic, and social stability of the supplying countries. Wherever a lessening of population pressures through reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States." - Henry Kissinger

http://www.whale.to/v/memorandum.html

“War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. “We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine”.
Award winning scientist, Dr. Eric Pianka University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert, showed solutions for reducing the world’s population to an audience on population control

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/hodgesdepopulationagenda08aug14.shtml

Ebola causes 100% depletion of vitamin C in the body, causing collapse of blood vessels causing you to bleed out. Liposomal Vitamin C will prevent death from ebola. There are a ton of videos on YouTube showing how to make your own for cheap compared to buying it from a manufacturer.

Thank Henry Kissinger for being, in part, responsible for this weaponized version of ebola.

http://www.deliberation.info/ebola-natural-disease-kissinger-solution/

So we have reaction of bitcoin markets to presence of ebola is USA or something? Because this ridiculously low price of bitcoin right now cannot be explained in normal way...

There was a documented case of transmission via a person stealing an infected person's cell phone.

All you need to do if swap bodily fluids, it does not need to be as much as you would get from sex or a blood transfusion. It can be as little as a little bit of blood, vomit or feces

Infected person is relatively safe while no symptoms have been developed. However, infection through blood transfusion or sexual intercourse is still possible.

I have also heard mortality rates all over the board from 50% - 90%.  The World Health Organization (WHO) now lists on their FAQs a death rate near 90%.  Possibly because those people whom become infected reside in countries with substandard health care facilities.

Source (FAQ #1)
www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/faq-ebola/en/

Also, it appears a second US case (Dallas again) is now possible.  
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/

A couple things wrong with that quote...first of all the original mortality rates were around 90% for the first outbreaks they saw of ebola. The current strain has a lethality rate of about 70%. It has mutated since then and become less lethal, but unfortunately it has also become more infectious. This time there are many more cases of persons infected by objects touched by the infected, which was previously less common. Even in a modern healthcare system this could be a huge issue. Remember the black plague? That only killed about half the people infected with it. This current strain kills 70% of the infected.

Ebola is a hemorrhagic fever. It kills about half of those who contract it. It sometimes, though not always, leads to uncontrollable bleeding. But it's difficult to contract. The only way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with the bodily fluids — vomit, sweat, blood, feces, urine or saliva — of someone who has Ebola and has begun showing symptoms.

Modern public-health systems can manage diseases that travel through bodily fluids. The techniques are laborious, but known. You isolate those who have contracted the disease, or might have contracted it. You find out who's been near them. You screen them for the disease. You isolate anyone who shows symptoms. You do this until the disease is stamped out. It works. And modern public-health systems know how to do it.

Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/163957-2014-10-01-don-39-t-panic-over-ebola-in-america.htm .

I think you are exactly right. Often the infection comes from caring for a sick family member. He apparently started showing symptoms 4 days after arriving from Africa (Liberia I think). Four days later he was diagnosed. That means that people who were in contact with him after he was sick but before he was quarantined will need to be isolated and tested.
In Africa many people don't trust hospitals or doctors and prefer to go to traditional healers. They have nothing to offer people and when they go home, they get sicker and infect more people. In the west I doubt this would happen. if anything we put too much faith in medicine and what it can do.

Just to point out how culturally different it is in Africa, I heard a radio song to help prevent the spread of Ebola. Since new cases are transmitted from eating bush meat, the refrain goes: "Ebola; If you find a dead monkey don't eat it, Ebola."
Now if you have to tell people not to eat a dead monkey they find... You have a real disease problem.

How did he get the disease? Sharing fluids with a sick person? Something about this doesn't make sense. If you can't get this from someone who isn't showing symptoms, there must be a lot of people sharing body fluids with Ebola patients in Africa.

Na, Ebola is not contagious enough to overwhelm the health care system here, like it did in Africa. It's bad for the guy who is infected though. 

lol

Don't worry about Ebola spreading in Dallas. The Cowboys have shown us that people in Dallas can't catch anything.

lol no need to panic, the Ebola scare-mongering has been hugely overplayed by the media.

At least the drug corps can make a shitload of money selling Ebola 'vaccines.'

In case you are worried or interested about the matter, the science community of Reddit is doing an ama in whick many interesting questions are answered http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/2hy3r9/science_ama_series_ask_your_questions_about_ebola/ the situation doesn't look so bad.

Where can I find my closest FEMA camp so I can get the best cot before everyone else is rounded up?

Perhaps now would be a reasonable time to begin restricting reentry from high-risk regions, thus discouraging travel. This man probably traveled to Liberia to visit a "sick" relative and was then allowed to board a flight to the US.

PANIC EVERYONE PANIC NOW!

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!

Now.. Lets go back to our BTC..

unreal it depends on what will happen this month

if it's not spreading then it will be alright

Is it possible this could spread faster within America than within Africa?  I think most people in Africa are subsistence agriculturalists or urban dwellers who don't really commute long distances.

The thing about America is people are so afraid of losing their jobs that they don't even take sick days when they need them.  There could also be more personal contact in American culture than African culture (such as shaking hands with strangers).  Then public gatherings like sport arenas where you can have large groups of people in close proximity with each other.

Crucial test to see if the US disease control system works I suppose. If there are more than 2-3 other related cases found in the next 2 weeks, it's likely to escape control. At this point though, it's still likely that this particular case can be contained.

But if one guy can fly back from West Africa with Ebola with nothing stopping him, so can others, meaning many more such cases are likely. Time to implement quarantine measures of some sort. If you are arriving in a Western country and have been in an Ebola-affected country in the last month, you should be held in quarantine pending results of an Ebola test.

This is very unfortunate I hope they cure this disease quickly and not alot of people are affected. And the people affected I hope they get a cure.

I live in Houston.

I think that it will spread. Fast.

ETA:

Ebola in Texas
Stock Market ATH
US Bombing in Syria, Russia threatens to push back
ISIS potential terrorist attack

Gee I wonder which is the one that will send is overboard..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/30/a-dallas-hospital-is-evaluating-a-patient-for-possible-ebola/

when is the time to panic?