Economic conflicts because nobody don't want to live with less USA vs brics

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Quote from: Fullbear2222 on May 20, 2024, 10:15:29 AM

It's all happens becouse of Biden i don't think trump would ever let brics happening

It is not up to United States' government whether BRICS happens or not. US simply has no say in it...

Don't forget that BRICS started a long time ago in 2009 (US economy fell apart catastrophically on 2008, coincidence?) and has been growing ever since. Even during Trump presidency BRICS had big expansions and made significant moves such as on the agreements signed on 2019 to increase cooperation and deepen relationships. Or the $15 billion dollar that the BRICS Development Bank gave out to the countries struggling with COVID19.

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 15, 2024, 10:07:53 PM

Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 15, 2024, 03:09:11 AM

If you are bigger country like china ....they just nuke you that's it.

As I said your understanding of the world is pretty weird!
Have you ever heard of "mutual destruction"? You think China would just stand idle and watch the nukes come? No, they'll nuke US back and the entire North American continent would cease to exist.

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Look at japan USA nuked japan 2 times and now Japan listen USA before japan stand up against USA

Wrong again.
Japan was already defeated in WW2 and had no hope of changing that. They were already sending negotiators for a peace treaty. In case you don't know Japan is more like a small island without resources and at the time it had no infrastructure left.
Then US regime nuked them to make a point in the new world order at the time (nuked once, two cities) to send a message that you are receiving about 80 years later Cheesy

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Anthony blinken Went in china told to china you need to stop supporting russia.

LOL and he wasn't even received by the Chinese authorities. They even sent him back like a normal visitor not a diplomat Cheesy

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USA don't talk twice you don't listen you get instant punishment.

It is 1945 anymore that after a world war only US is intact and won.
Today things are actually different. Others don't talk twice to US, if the US regime doesn't listen it will be punished severely.

It's all happens becouse of Biden i don't think trump would ever let brics happening

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:15:14 AM

USA start to see brics influence the brics taking usa stake away.
The economic problems we have because now all the countries suddenly want to be wealthy and that their people live good, that's not possible.(We can't have all good life)
And If brics don't stop that joking around then usa might take some serious military actions i think brics must forget about that plan and apoligize and say sorry usa we was just kidding with you.
I want peace i want safe and relaxed world not some fights If USA is leader let it be i can accept that i can find ways how to work together usa even If Im not in USA for example btc ETF from USA that's great thing.
So brics should stop this bs USA got bigger Rockets and that's no joke let's just live with the fact that all can not live life well and let the USA rule and stay prosperous atleast we gona have relxaing and peacful good life.

I think biden are soft on brics but trump will never let happening...trump said he like only one currency and it's DOLLAR THE brics used time to build that biden times but when trump comes everything different.
People need to Understood world is now the way becouse no trump everybody was using time to do things becouse of Biden whos sleeping.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 15, 2024, 03:09:11 AM

If you are bigger country like china ....they just nuke you that's it.

As I said your understanding of the world is pretty weird!
Have you ever heard of "mutual destruction"? You think China would just stand idle and watch the nukes come? No, they'll nuke US back and the entire North American continent would cease to exist.

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Look at japan USA nuked japan 2 times and now Japan listen USA before japan stand up against USA

Wrong again.
Japan was already defeated in WW2 and had no hope of changing that. They were already sending negotiators for a peace treaty. In case you don't know Japan is more like a small island without resources and at the time it had no infrastructure left.
Then US regime nuked them to make a point in the new world order at the time (nuked once, two cities) to send a message that you are receiving about 80 years later Cheesy

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Anthony blinken Went in china told to china you need to stop supporting russia.

LOL and he wasn't even received by the Chinese authorities. They even sent him back like a normal visitor not a diplomat Cheesy

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USA don't talk twice you don't listen you get instant punishment.

It is 1945 anymore that after a world war only US is intact and won.
Today things are actually different. Others don't talk twice to US, if the US regime doesn't listen it will be punished severely.

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

I think that you're just being myopic, what makes you think that USA holds the keys to happiness, that without USA being a dominant force to recon with that the rest of the world will be in chaos, you need to open your eyes to see that the whole world doesn't revolve around USA. People like you will rather remain boxed and not look forward to change, a better word where every country will have true sovereignty without having the fear of the mighty USA. You're country is probably a stooge for the US, and you think that you're living in paradise, maybe one day your country will become wiser and fallout with the US, then I wonder if you're not going to want change.

We are like animals strongest one will eat and survive.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:27:06 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

I think that you're just being myopic, what makes you think that USA holds the keys to happiness, that without USA being a dominant force to recon with that the rest of the world will be in chaos, you need to open your eyes to see that the whole world doesn't revolve around USA. People like you will rather remain boxed and not look forward to change, a better word where every country will have true sovereignty without having the fear of the mighty USA. You're country is probably a stooge for the US, and you think that you're living in paradise, maybe one day your country will become wiser and fallout with the US, then I wonder if you're not going to want change.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:15:14 AM

USA start to see brics influence the brics taking usa stake away.
The economic problems we have because now all the countries suddenly want to be wealthy and that their people live good, that's not possible.(We can't have all good life)

So you mean that developing countries should just stay poor and do not try to do anything that could improve their economy which in turn could improve their citizens’ living conditions? Huh

That is such a selfish thing to say. Should only the wealthy country be wealthy?

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And If brics don't stop that joking around then usa might take some serious military actions i think brics must forget about that plan and apoligize and say sorry usa we was just kidding with you.

First of all USA’s first response to any challenges will not be military action right away. They are not going to dive into war just because of a group of countries. Remember that some of the countries in BRICS have a really strong military power as well.

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Quote from: moneystery on May 14, 2024, 11:45:06 AM

Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:15:14 AM

The economic problems we have because now all the countries suddenly want to be wealthy and that their people live good, that's not possible.(We can't have all good life)

why can't we all have a good life? is it only americans and europeans who deserve a good life, while people in developing countries can't? everyone has the right to a good life and no one can prohibit that. if brics causes economic problems for the us with all its policies that want to protect their country's interests, then this is natural because they also want the countries that are members of the organization to improve economically.

so never blame the brics organization or any country for causing economic problems when they protect their country's economy. because they also want to improve the economy in order to improve the welfare of their citizens like countries in europe or america.

Let me tell you how the people like trump and top wealthy specially finance guys think ....they want to drink wine enjoy the food and nice surroundings and keep making more wealth.
They don't really talk or discuss with you what you want you don't get their point they send military on you or fbi police and If you are bigger country like china ....they just nuke you that's it.
Trump and other guys whos in trump team not going to listen your talking about equality or what is right or wrong they simply shoot you or send nukes
Look at japan USA nuked japan 2 times and now Japan listen USA before japan stand up against USA now they listen , Anthony blinken Went in china told to china you need to stop supporting russia.
Other countries never used used really nukes but USA have used and Will use again If anyone threat the democtatic regime.
Something here you need to Understood the trump not going to negotiate with you about equality and your rights you dont listen he make you listen and it seems people don't Understood this until USA will nuke.
I mean it's smart for russia and china to step back Because USA don't joke around USA have build his reputation with instant moves the USA don't talk twice you don't listen you get instant punishment.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:15:14 AM

The economic problems we have because now all the countries suddenly want to be wealthy and that their people live good, that's not possible.(We can't have all good life)

why can't we all have a good life? is it only americans and europeans who deserve a good life, while people in developing countries can't? everyone has the right to a good life and no one can prohibit that. if brics causes economic problems for the us with all its policies that want to protect their country's interests, then this is natural because they also want the countries that are members of the organization to improve economically.

so never blame the brics organization or any country for causing economic problems when they protect their country's economy. because they also want to improve the economy in order to improve the welfare of their citizens like countries in europe or america.

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BRICS is big on paper, but the USA is powerful in practice. We are yet to see major successes in challenging the political and economic dominance of the US by BRICS. But I don't think that the US is currently interested in direct involvement in military conflicts. They're focusing more on internal politics and also trying to rethink their global approaches, following a series of unsuccessful attempts of military interventions in the past. However, one of the consequences of that is that we no longer live in a unipolar world of one superpower. The global economic and political relations are reshaping, but it's unclear how they will look like in the future.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:27:06 AM

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

You say it like you live alone in this world, where you don't need help from others around you. with you feeling good, are you sure you won't change? I doubt it.
Even though it's none of my business, I don't think it's possible for someone to stay with their situation, even though they've been labeled good, but I'm sure the desire to change is there. unless you're a person who is totally numb and blind.

life will not always be fine my friend, even though we have tried our best, problems will still exist. but just believe that the storm will pass. but it is impossible that there will be no storms in the vast desert.

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

It's not domestic anymore if it also affects other countries, I mean they've got military bases all over the world after all, pretty sure that's not going to be a domestic thing. For me, these corrupt politicians wouldn't really have that power if we the people just stopped them in their tracks early on, we shouldn't have let the capitalists corporations take over the government too, their lobbying for their own benefit has run US into what it is now, so yeah, military spending causing the debt to increase in collosal proportions is definitely just a tip in the iceberg. Some things are going to have to change and those some things are going to be really scary things and everyone who cares has to do it.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:27:06 AM

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

May I ask which country you live in?

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Quote from: Zlantann on May 13, 2024, 01:27:20 PM

Your life might be okay and you are living a good life. But other people in some countries are suffering because of the actions of these world powers. Some nations are under severe sanctions which have made life terrible in such a country. Other nation's resources are been directly and indirectly stolen while the producers are dying of poverty. Some countries are going through wars and internal conflicts orchestrated by some of these nations to enable them to sell arms and steal resources. I am also living a peaceful life in my country but the suffering in Gaza, Libya, Syria and Ukraine breaks my heart. I know that the consequences of fighting the status quo are costly, but the truth remains that the world needs change.

I want to say that everything is learned by comparison. Many people now do not like that the United States and Europe occupy a leading role in maintaining world order. Well, everyone can express their opinion and unite in any unions to achieve their specific goals. But you just need to calculate all the possible consequences arising from this. There is a good saying that says that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Therefore, first of all, you need to understand what the world order will be like if it is dominated, for example, by Russia, China, Iran or North Korea. There are a lot of variations here and most of them will significantly worsen the situation in the world. Therefore, the current US hegemony may then seem to you to be an almost ideal world order.

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Quote from: target on May 13, 2024, 02:59:22 PM

Can't they just agree that they can each own their side of the world? West is for West and East is for East. The problem may just be Brazil since they are in the West while they are a member of BRICS.

What you can do is dig your bunker since they are all building their bunkers already. It's just a shame there has to be war when it could be avoided.

They cannot agree that the East should be for the East and the West should be for the West, because the powerful controlling force wants to control everything and is not satisfied with one aspect of the world. When the East was controlling in the past, it was striving with all force to control the West, and now the controlling West is seeking to control the East.

This is the nature of kings and rulers, ancient and modern. They want to be the greatest power controlling everything. They suffer from megalomania and are not satisfied with ruling a country or a region, but rather dream of ruling the entire world. This has been present since the days of Alexander the Great, who sought to achieve his dream of controlling the world, but he died at an early age.

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Quote from: Zlantann on May 13, 2024, 01:27:20 PM

Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:27:06 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

Your life might be okay and you are living a good life. But other people in some countries are suffering because of the actions of these world powers. Some nations are under severe sanctions which have made life terrible in such a country. Other nation's resources are been directly and indirectly stolen while the producers are dying of poverty. Some countries are going through wars and internal conflicts orchestrated by some of these nations to enable them to sell arms and steal resources. I am also living a peaceful life in my country but the suffering in Gaza, Libya, Syria and Ukraine breaks my heart. I know that the consequences of fighting the status quo are costly, but the truth remains that the world needs change.

Yess,the world needs a Change and that change cannot be favorable for all and sundry.The world takers wake up each and every day to implement and make new innovation which in the same vein doesn't correspond to the livelihood and survival of some individuals.Some of these government regulations can only protect and have effects on only few citizens.

No matter what happens,All citizens have equal rights before the law,and we still have to obey governmental rules and regulations but not to the detriment of yourself largely.How the BRICS take decisions and actions towards finding another path can still be challenging for us.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on May 13, 2024, 02:46:41 PM

You accept that the United States is the world leader and are afraid of world war, but the BRICS countries and other countries do not like this and will not accept that the United States is the sole leader of the world.

We cannot do anything. The leaders and politicians are the ones who do everything and we are forced to just watch. If the BRICS countries refuse to submit to American policy, what can we do? This is a conflict between the superpowers and could lead to a devastating world war, but what can we do?

Can't they just agree that they can each own their side of the world? West is for West and East is for East. The problem may just be Brazil since they are in the West while they are a member of BRICS.

What you can do is dig your bunker since they are all building their bunkers already. It's just a shame there has to be war when it could be avoided.

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You accept that the United States is the world leader and are afraid of world war, but the BRICS countries and other countries do not like this and will not accept that the United States is the sole leader of the world.

We cannot do anything. The leaders and politicians are the ones who do everything and we are forced to just watch. If the BRICS countries refuse to submit to American policy, what can we do? This is a conflict between the superpowers and could lead to a devastating world war, but what can we do?

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:27:06 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

Your life might be okay and you are living a good life. But other people in some countries are suffering because of the actions of these world powers. Some nations are under severe sanctions which have made life terrible in such a country. Other nation's resources are been directly and indirectly stolen while the producers are dying of poverty. Some countries are going through wars and internal conflicts orchestrated by some of these nations to enable them to sell arms and steal resources. I am also living a peaceful life in my country but the suffering in Gaza, Libya, Syria and Ukraine breaks my heart. I know that the consequences of fighting the status quo are costly, but the truth remains that the world needs change.

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Quote from: Mansory22022 on May 13, 2024, 10:15:14 AM

So brics should stop this bs USA got bigger Rockets and that's no joke let's just live with the fact that all can not live life well and let the USA rule and stay prosperous atleast we gona have relxaing and peacful good life.

oh USA is your daddy haha, never mind. Your post is so childish and you definitely lack knowledge either you lack it or you have made this post to get some attraction or to create a cringe post. I should say, whatever your goal was, is achieved, I suggest you to make a social media video and then run a compaign haha. I mean, you really think USA will take military action against BRICS. If they will then they will bear great consequences as big atomic powers have been become a part of BRICS now.

Besides, if they have rockets, what other countries have then. They are also equiped with great technology. The problem is, you are idiotic to think it that way don't mind but you were not able to put this post into right words.

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Quote from: un_rank on May 13, 2024, 10:30:57 AM

There are no BRICS representatives here, you can send your request to any of the countries that make it up and wait for their response.

I will just point out that the world has had several wars in the past 60 or so years with the USA being the world power, many started by them. This defeats the point I like to think you are trying to make of the other countries timidly rolling over for USA in exchange for peace.

- Jay -

I don't know whos the good here or bad but what i know is that peace im not into politics i make my own life my own things but i know changes of power changing might be not good maybe it's better but why gamble let it be how it is USA is boss and i been doing good while USA been in power

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- Jay -

There are no BRICS representatives here, you can send your request to any of the countries that make it up and wait for their response.

I will just point out that the world has had several wars in the past 60 or so years with the USA being the world power, many started by them. This defeats the point I like to think you are trying to make of the other countries timidly rolling over for USA in exchange for peace.

- Jay -

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Quote from: pooya87 on May 13, 2024, 10:21:37 AM

What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

Look i don't take sides i just want my life good and relaxed and having my nice holdays drinks and fun but i know If world regime and power start to change from usa it will be not nice process and it will affect all of us the thing is my life is allready good I don't need to change anything.
And i don't know and i don't care really whos corrupted and who's not all i want is that no changes Because changes Will make things grazy i have allready resources and good life Im not interested about changes.
So Im sure that many people here doing good and not interested changes this way everybody want to live relaxed look at europe also Im sure they want to be in between china USA when things not well.
Easy way will be for china just forget about brics.

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What a weird post!

I just want to remind you that whatever happens to United States and its economy is the result of domestic politics of the corrupt politicians who brought the country to this place. Wasting tens of trillions of dollars on wars and increasing the national debt to $35 trillion is just the tip of the iceberg.

The rest of the stuff you said is too weird to reply to

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USA start to see brics influence the brics taking usa stake away.
The economic problems we have because now all the countries suddenly want to be wealthy and that their people live good, that's not possible.(We can't have all good life)
And If brics don't stop that joking around then usa might take some serious military actions i think brics must forget about that plan and apoligize and say sorry usa we was just kidding with you.
I want peace i want safe and relaxed world not some fights If USA is leader let it be i can accept that i can find ways how to work together usa even If Im not in USA for example btc ETF from USA that's great thing.
So brics should stop this bs USA got bigger Rockets and that's no joke let's just live with the fact that all can not live life well and let the USA rule and stay prosperous atleast we gona have relxaing and peacful good life.

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