Topic: Economic situation declining and famous celebs not paying workers (Read 816 times)

I agree, I found it nice to see little youtubers gain national coverage because they were more "like us" and more "real", but after a while I noticed with disappointment that a lot of them became typical celebrities ...

Well probably it is our attitude not to save money due to small salary pay so with that we will just need to get along with it and survive for that day. Due to this pandemic many had been suffering and I was grateful that I was a frontliner because I still have my job and being paid due relatively it is that small but it is alright as long as I can fed my self and my family. In this tragic times hopefully that economics will be able to recover as soon as possible and all the people will be free from suffering due to the illness with vaccine be truly discovered and available to all.

Yeah but the celebrities are bringing nothing to the table. When everyone had his basic needs fullfiled it was cool to watch celebrities on instagram how they live, eat and sleep. In times of crisis like we have now where people don't even can feed their family we should start thinking what justification is there for celebs? Do we really need them?

My answer is definitely no. Just look at Ellen Degeneres, who was supposed to be a that super nice person helping people in need. Now it comes out she is actually a very mean person and treats her own employees very badly.

We should stop empowering all these celebrities. The only power they have, is the one we give them.

I do not dispute that employers should help. All reasonable assistance that business can provide is not to inflate prices for products and other goods, but also to continue to pay at least some acceptable salary for the period of downtime (and this is done by many).
And that's why I don't like all the shouts of the level "YOU HAVE to HELP YOU HAVE MONEY RRRRR" because the money is there but if you spend it all here and now - instead of reverse recovery, we will get thousands (if not tens or hundreds of thousands) of ruined people from the SME sector. In the current case, a perfectly acceptable compromise between these points has been implemented and if you start spending more, the consequences will be much more depressing. Inflation, do you remember about it?

It isn’t easy for everybody. Especially the workers. And even celebrities. The economy is unfair to everyone, including those celebrities and companies. It’s very easy to criticize others on what they haven’t done right, especially when we have never been in their shoes. In the middle of this pandemic, I criticized some companies on why they don’t even pay their salaries or pay half salary. But when I imagined myself in their shoes, I saw another angle of things. They have been hit hard too. And yes, some companies and celebrities were out of the line.

I agree with you on people getting educated on starting their brands and acquiring skills. But it isn’t that easy. Many of those workers are in serious need of food. It’s not easy for a hungry person to start a business.

We are all hit by the pandemic. Some are just more hit than the other.

People who saved when they had lot to spend is having their living without much difficulty. One who hasn't saved, but led a happy life out of the earnings without making any saving is suffering much. In my country government paid every family $15, and the lockdown is still continuing. When government itself doesn't have responsibility, these celebrities will also do the same as there is none to rise voice for the suffering humanity.

Talking about empathy is very easy but in reality nonsense. Many people have large disposable income and savings nowadays, but they prefer to save as much of their money as possible on the grounds of precaution rather than creating a labor-intensive humanitarian project that can create income for others. The thinking of people who have disposable income is stacking more and more not spending it or investing to drive an economy that is slowing and stopping.

A common man when facing a crisis usually makes the mistake of surviving and hoping conditions will improve. So to maintain their business usually they will drain their savings, if the savings are gone they will find a loan, and finally when they can't survive and cannot pay their employees anymore. In fact, if the common man has a mature calculation and the ability to read circumstance, then the decision to stop employees and give severance is the most appropriate step so that each individual can get ready for the worst and the relationship will remain good instead of ending with a demonstration.

You are very insensitive I can tell you that. You are saying that the workers should not be working if they are not being paid, right but how do you expect the workers to find a new job especially in current times? You must pay the workers if you have not given them notice prior and actually there are some legal documentation I believe regarding this which states that you must inform the workers in 2 months or some given period in advance before you remove them from their jobs.

What hurts more is that when we as common man cannot think of positively for the workers then how can we expect big celebs who are always mean and self centered to be caring towards the workers. People who have never seen tough times don't understand the pain of others  and that is the reason why we have so many mean people around us.

I think this only happens in some companies ,those who has demonic bosses  in which they are not treating employees as human instead they are machinery that needs to make their company growing and this is the sad reality mate.
i hate to see people are crying for food when they have some  amount  to claim for their works.
But lets admit that the government now cannot focus in these cases thats why these people are taking advantage of the situation.lets see what happens when  everything comes back to normal,I'm sure those countries that has Leader that loves masses?they will back turn to these employer with hammer hands.
remember that even there are trillions of money being collected from taxes the infrastructures ,and all the calamity assistance,and in this case employers have obligation to Their employee to at least help out in small ways.
because more than everything this is the time that government and companies to stay together and  help each other.
this cannot be done by government  itself,they must help in small things  that they can.

imho if anyone should help people then its the state - because it receives trillions of taxes from both companies and ordinary people. If the state does not do this, then do not throw all the blame on the business. Many employers pay their employees salaries either on vacation or continue to work by organizing a remote workflow.
I understand this desire to blame on the business, "take and share», etc but it will not work in this way

The situation is really a mess as everyone is feeling the effects of the lock down and forced quarantine and many small companies are feeling the stress financially but comparing Kylie Jenner who made millions ripping off others ideas is a bad example as they are coming from a family who are really famous for being famous. Not heard about other big time celebrities having problems financially who really had any output.

If there is no business then no matter how big the company is, will refuse to pay you because its business and they will be stupid from money point of view.And why people are still working if there is no pay for longer time just stop doing any works in all of a sudden then only the management will hear your voices.

Actually that's true someone who has beauty (well, that's required to be a celebrity) might not have the right brain to operate a business or invest the money properly to entertain lifetime profits.

Now that you said, I can also recall a lot of actors who just vanished from the industry and never came into news after that and now are living the life of a common man, that's because they spent like idiots and never card too much.

Anyways coming back to the topic, I believe celebrity who deny payments should be shamed in public like maybe trend a hashtag or something and make them pay their workers.

While I agree that they could have restricted the virus to a large factor and their carelessness led to the virus being spread everywhere which has caused the massacre that everyone is facing now, but that said I would not accuse them directly because even for them the virus must have been new and they don't know how it is going to spread and what they can do to stop the spreading of the virus.

As far as lock downs are concerned I think everyone is happy with lock down as long as they have enough money to survive and if the government cannot provide enough money/food to their people then they shouldn't implement the lock down.

It is so selfish to think about how these celebs don't care about the life of their workers while they only have to think about their own. It was very unfortunate to see how these people working hard for their employer but in return, they only have got this. Supposedly we are helping each other but somehow we can't push these celebrities to feel how hard to be of not being paid.

A big shame for them. This could really affect their reputation. But I was hoping he could realize it before its going late.

It's so very sad for all workers that really affected of this crisis mostly the people in silver lining that the salary is so small and because of this pandemic and crisis it will double the stress for them. Hopefully this companies or big names in their economy will give them consideration what this people feelings and needs.

Sometimes when people get rich all of a sudden, they lose their common sense. Just look at the case of Jack Whittaker, who won the then largest jackpot ever in the history of Powerball in 2002 ($314.9 million). After they become rich, several members of his family died from drug overdose and other unnatural deaths. Whittaker himself was involved in several criminal cases including DUI. He died last month, at the age of 72. I am not just taling about lottery jackpot winners. Look at the celebrities such as Chyna (wrestler), Amy Winehouse, Prince and Whitney Houston.

Celebrity and entertainment do not know how to manage their money, always looks like they will be on the top and never try to make passive income when their popularity have gone, I know with many celebrity does not exist again have begin with zero after lost all popularity and they left by fans and their family.

This is a sad and bad news most specially for the part of the workers that are working for the celebrities. It is hard breaking to know that after working for them and become a part of the success they have not just in their career but also with their businesses that have also been affected by the pandemic, they will just turn their back and not pay their workers just because they are also affected. Yes it is understandable indeed that their sources of income are affected but imagine the gap of income that a celebrity earn from their careers and businesses compared to what their workers can earn. Even though celebrities are affected, for sure they do still have a lots of money being stored on their banks and pockets.

A little amount of help would do for those who need because the most affected people are those who belongs to the lower classes up to the middle classes. They were the ones who needs money the most so may the celebrities at least have some mercy to provide their needs while they still have no work because of the pandemic. It will not be a lot of loss in their part because they can still earn a lots of money when everything is okay. Let them just treat it as a good deed or social help and responsibility to their workers to help them at times they need them the most since they are the ones who have the capacity to help the needy.

   It's true, economic impact can be worse than a virus. When you have a virus you get sick, your body struggle with it, but
without money entire families will not have for food, for other basic things. I would rather get sick than to not have money
to provide food for my family, that would be painful life to live!
   

I also understand that all parties are affected by this corona virus, including celebrities and big companies. But that does not mean
for that reason they do not perform their obligation to pay workers. Celebrity and big companies should realize that the impact of
workers is much greater, if these workers are not paid then there is a possibility that they and their family cannot eat.

Honestly, it saddens me to know that even the celebrities are cold hearted when it comes to their workers. Well, I do understand that their businesses are also affected amid with the existence of the covid-19 pandemic that is why they are keeping on hold their funds since there is still no source of income that is potential to give them earnings. But they were already that rich to provide their needs on daily life basis compared to those workers that are directly affected because of their temporary loss of jobs since business establishments are temporarily close in part of the community quarantine to at least stop the potential spread of virus on work places.

But may at least those celebrities give even a little part of their earnings to those who deserve and need it because seriously, those people who are their workers are somewhat part of their big break since they were the ones behind their success. Celebrities must help those people and just treat it as their responsibility to their people even at this time of pandemic because honestly, they can easily earn those money back and more than enough of what they would give to their people once their businesses came back to operation. It is just awful that this scenario is existing even at times like this that many are needy and those that have more than enough are just calmly sitting on their moneys while others are seeking ways to live and survive this pandemic.

I'm also very sorry for these people. Honest and responsible employers certainly need to take care of their employees. People did the right thing to start "attacking" them on social networks. If they value their reputation as famous personalities and global brands, they will be obliged to pay what they owe.

People are not ready to go for this lockdown, they can't do it. This is why I am not happy with China, their government that refused to reveal this situation on time, and they didn't even take action by stopping air travels to other countries as a way to stop the virus from going into other countries.

If they did the things they are supposed to do, we wouldn't be here today worrying about how to go on lockdown and all these worries we are having right now. It is just not easy, some companies won't have money to pay their workers because there is no income coming in. But, I think they should still find a way to settle those people for the work they have done before now.

Even with the thing they just need, that is just fine. With a helping hand they would be able to secure their lives in this pandemic, help is what they need but the thing is that even though there are hands that are willing to help, those hands are not enough. They really have it rough. We can't really remove poverty in this world.

That is common in every private business and not only in celebrities.The first reason for what a private company works is to maximize their profit and they do not really care about workers that much.That is why sindicates were created to stop the tyranny of the owners versus their workers.I think everyone who does this should be punished by law and we should enforce this otherwise this will never change.

It is awful and absurd for the part of those people who have been working for celebrities that have not received any help or support from their bosses at this time of pandemic just because their businesses are temporarily close. May they at least give some concern or at least give a handful of their stored wealth to help those people that have been working for them and have been one of the keys behind their success. That would be just a small percentage of their wealth that they can surely regain once this pandemic is over and once their businesses have reopened once again. May they at least give a hand for those who are needy because seriously, this quarantine due to pandemic is unfavorable for the poor people because indeed they are safe inside their house but there are also other things that they need to survive. May the celebrities just treat the help they would give as a good deed or social responsibility for they can still have more than enough of money right beside them.

A little support for those workers would do since they were seriously affected for being temporarily jobless because of the pandemic.

I feel that because I have that experience before. That is a pain for me at that time, but I cannot do anything. Some of them can back to the old job during the other search for the new job because they cannot continue to work in the old company. The company will substitute with other peoples if they think that we cannot work better, and that is easy for the company to search for new workers. If the old workers can still give their best to the company, they will still work for that company.

Life is really unfair to those who are under those successful and rich people because they can't buy everything they need and ever wanted, that is why they work hard to reach their goals and become successful in life. But in the middle of a pandemic, the poor people become poorer that a lot of people have lost most of their jobs and gives them a huge problem with how they would live and feed their families every day.

Well said!..

On this pandemic situation we are in, its understandable that there would be changes since it would be mainly affecting all sorts of business and industries throughout the globe and losing

profits or revenue is part of it which do even cause total bankruptcy and closure of such business.Lets talk about wage or workers salary.Its just really part of the responsibility as an owner to pay

up its workers hard work.Its just inhuman if you do just call it quits or would tend to pay it out.

There was a similar case I heard in gambling section where the casinos were not paying their workers while some casinos were paying so this is happening everywhere but it feels worst when rich and royal people do this. Maybe in future there should be a bond/clause where the labour must be paid if there is a pandemic situation like this and the worker has no option to earn.

There are some basketball players who paid their workers and donated for the relief funds while there are people by kylie Jenner who just cannot pay their owner workers. This is the time when we get to know our real heroes and selfish people are also spotted.

I know that. It is just that even though these companies are affected, those people above have their complete meals, have their own house for them to be safe from the virus, have their family secured even weeks and weeks of quarantine or lockdowns while those poor workers can't do that. Life is unfair but I hope they should really consider paying them even half since they really needed it.

Although as easy as it sounds there are more workers than boss and the brutal reality is that if you don't stick to your job now you might face much more troubles and the company owners know this and they are taking advantage of such times because they know if even they pay half the salary they can retain their workers or even get new ones.

That is the reason why jobs are always considered to be temporary because as long as you are useful to them they will allow and once they find a cheaper or better substitute you are out without a mistake being made. I personally feel that people should not leave their jobs during these times, no matter what!

Yes that is a real shame and even if they are affected by the situation they should understand that they can easily manage the situation and not paying their workers is going to do a lot more harm than good. I mean it takes only a small initiative and people may boycott their brands and certainly the celebs can come back to their feet in no time.

It makes me feel so bad when people are saying this "I will die of hunger before I die of the virus" because this is so true and rich celebs sitting in their house eating chicken cannot imagine the situation and I actually wish people boycott their brands and raise their voice against such arrogant celebs because they are celeb as long as common people make them feel so.

most celebrities that i know dont have a profesion but till the date they joined hollywood or showbizness they start to earn and save up eventually they invest and own a business . they also have a savings in the bank so its impossible that they cant pay   . they can sell thier stuffs too that they dont use alot or already excess like jewelries  , cars , gadgets  .  there so many ways and they cant do alibi's with that  .  paying little by litte is also alright than no payments at all  but as long as they pay on the exact given date

From what I have seen, the level of greed is proportional to net worth. In most cases, middle-class individuals are more generous when compared to all those HNW and UHNW individuals. You can check various crowdfunding campaigns and it can be seen that almost all the contributions come from those who belong to the middle-class. The uber-rich very rarely take part in charity.

Anyway, that's their choice. If someone doesn't want to help others, then we can't intervene. It's his personal liberty. But here, it's different. The uber rich are refusing to pay salaries to their employees. This is plain despicable behaviour, and these people needs to be shamed for that.

The economic situation will soon recover, and many countries will pass the worst situation because of the pandemic. People will search for new jobs offline or online because they need to have money to buy their daily needs. The government's help is not enough if the private business is not trying to do its best to reopen the new jobs for the people. If some workers don't get payment from their bosses, they don't need to come back to the old bosses, but they can search for another boss who can give them the new jobs.

I kinda annoyed about this complain. To be honest, it's not logical because most people that always complain was those who's earning minimum wage and if ever they get virus on there job, they don't money for there hospital bills and they just made there lives more miserable. The government are giving support to all people which is sufficient if they will just used it wisely. I'm not against the minimum wager because I belong with them. I just don't want the way they think, they are risking there live for bit of money. The virus is not forever.

This pandemic really show us the importance of savings. I hope that everyone is safe.

You're right, mate. They have to have a talk first that things are not going well because of the pandemic and their business might not be able to pay them like before. I'm sure their employees will understand the cut in salary because they are well aware of the situation. The most important thing is that they paid their employees. But this is most likely applicable to small businesses.

For those big names, on the other hand, owned by celebrities and not paying up, I don't think their employees deserve that. They should give them their salary because their the ones behind the production of the products that made them rich. Besides, probably that's not the only source of income they have. They're rich because of their profession and not their business alone so they can afford to pay their employees which are in big need in this trying time.

Yes, it may sound true but there are things that could be  done to this like helping  each other like cutting salary into which the owner can afford to give. If the owner really does not want to do give the salary to their employee then better to hold first their service render. It is also hard to pay them when the owner has no income at all and no funds to pay for it.

The problem is that business owner had prolong the agony on no income and paying salary to their employee. This has been a problem and thisn is why many business now were being temporarily closed because they could not affrod to give salary without imcome anymore. The Pandemic has been long enough like 3 months and this will force business owners to stop first the operation.

Well not really like that but there are other options like cutting the numbers of workforce due to pandemic lesser income and few workforce needed. Also the company could close temporarily and can get back when things go back to normal.

Today, even though it has its own brands, marketing will also be difficult. The economy has worsened and many work rights have been dismissed sooner. So consumers will be reduced and their branded goods will not be sold easily. The capital needed is also quite a lot. Lack of skills makes small workers lose the opportunity to look for income in other occupations. What they hope for is assistance from the government as well as solutions for their survival.

That is the problem, if you are actually not making money, that doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither.

If you are a business or a celeb or basically anyone who are paying someone, just because you are not making profit doesn't mean you do not have to pay neither. By that logic when pandemic is not around, like lets say before pandemic started, any company who doesn't make a profit didn't have to pay neither. That is not what happened back in the day, so why should it happen now just because pandemic?

If you can't pay to people you should not be a business or a celeb that hires workers at all, you have to pay not only when you earn but when you do not earn as well, that is what hiring people entails when you hire them. It is not whenever you want to or whenever you can pay, it means every day.

Quarantine is indeed a lot that refuses because according to them it is not according to what was promised before they were treated like animals in brackets alone by being given potluck so many refused and rebels I think this also happened in my area.
Not all people are dependent on the Bank even now aid is always through an account so I think this way the government is less effective for the poor but it will be difficult for them to weigh food aid directly to their people.

Lol this has been the same comments that people are making in my country where I live. They are all saying that due to the quarantine that they are not going to die because of virus, it’s the hunger that’s going to kill them lol. That’s why a lot of them have strongly opposed the quarantine and are saying that they want to continue going for their jobs and prefer to main a social distance (which I know for sure that they wouldn’t).

But let’s be sincere here, this quarantine will not favour the poor in every society. Even if the government decides to pay money into all accounts, some of these people don’t have bank accounts, and government can’t feed everybody.

celebrities who don't pay their employees' salaries like taking advantage of this moment, they are really embarrassing.  I'm sure their income is not at all impacted heavily..

the medical impact that will be borne by sufferers of corona which makes the economy worse..  medical workers continue to suggest that we stay at home as long as the vaccine has not been found even though the death rate due to corona is only 0.1%.  the medical workers have worked very hard even willing to not meet their families for months, we all just need to work together to break the chain of distribution of COVID-19 by following the rules of "new normal" even though it is very uncomfortable..

People do that for certain reasons which is mostly for selfish gain and for political gains and appointment in the future. People have donated to government in this covid-19 hard time and leaving out people and workers that are suppose to be paid just for the sake of making themselves relevant in the government of the day. Covid-19 pandemic has exposed the ills of the people of the world.

It is a sad truth revealed that many celebrities have left those people behind their success which are their workers when the crisis brought by pandemic arise. Yes, we are all aware that we are all seriously affected by this pandemic most specially because there is less job opportunities to be found because business establishments are temporarily to permanent closure because of this. But for those people working for the celebrities, it is really a sad moment that you were there at times they needed you and you were one of the keys behind their success but when time you needed them the most, they have turned their backs and left you hanging.

Famous brand celebrities have tons of money with them and that's for sure. May they at least give a small percentage of those money for the needy people at this time because surely when this crisis end, they can regain more than enough of what they have given to their people. May at least be their social responsibility and appreciation to help their workers at times like this because they need it the most to survive this pandemic.

If those famous celebs do that, I am sure that it doesn't take too long to see their popularity will reduce than before because people see that they don't pay their workers, and they don't have a responsibility for what happened with their workers. At least, they can show their humanity at this moment, so people will think that the celebs are not just popular, but the celebs are also generous, and they feel about their worker's live.

That can help them to gain more popularity in public, and they can also get more fans that will love them, not just as a celeb, but also a public figure that really care about other people's lives. I hope they will realize their mistake, and they will take care of their workers.

I hate seeing famous celebs and big companies who refuse to pay workers because they are affected by COVID-19. Even though they don't want to
his income is reduced, so small workers like us become victims. Payments that workers should receive, are used to cover their losses due to COVID-19.
After being exposed to the public they start making payments for fear that the image looks bad, really embarrassing people like this.

Therefore there is the term consolidated bottom of the pyramid. The middle and lower classes must consolidate so that it does not only become a market for the upper classes. The aim is that the economy does not move vertically upward but drips downward. The middle and lower classes must reverse the situation so that the economy rotates horizontally at the bottom of the pyramid so that the welfare of the middle and lower classes can increase. The bottom of the pyramid should not only be a market but must produce what is consumed alone.

Aside from that this is really not the best time to create their own business, resources are high in value and at the same time they would worry about the logistics and marketing basically everything on what they need to do in order to make a sale. I know you think that they will already have the support in the community as people will be helping them by supporting their product but without really a sponsor or a company willing to help them succeed in their new business I doubt that they'll be reaching the goal they will be expecting.

People buy famous brands for two reasons - they trust in brand's quality, because they can't verify the quality on their own, or they buy a brand because it's a status symbol on its own. There are already countless smaller brands and no-named manufacturers, but I'm pretty sure that they pay even less than these big brands, which is why poor people will keep sticking to their jobs there.

Bitcoin solves absolutely nothing here, since there's no monetary problem here, and if a company tried to only accept Bitcoin, they would sink in their first month - that's how low the adoption is right now.

The difference is, when you are making 20-100k per year (and even less in other nations) you can't really save too much money aside, you end up spending almost all of it just to live, sure you may put in a bit of it but not a whole lot and that is why you can't survive for too long. On the other hand celebs make millions of dollars every single year, they are super rich and if they put in half of their income for just ONE year, that would be enough to cover like 10 salary for their workers for a whole year.

Obviously they can't always do that but all they have to do is put 10% of their income aside and they would be able to pay their workers even if they do not work for years. Which is the difference, poor people can't afford to lose any income, rich people can end up not working for years.

The extent the impact of the Coronavirus had on finances cannot be overemphasized and not only on celebrities or individuals but also on companies. Even in my country of residence residence there are several companies that have stop paying salaries, others have done salary cut while several others have laid off staff.

Calling out these celebrities won't make much difference because they themselves are mostly hit because quite a number of them are only relevant because of their constant inflows from various movies, shows or concerts which is no longer possible now and they still need to ensure they maintain their prior status.

Everyone who is rich or wealthy need to have it in their mind that they're experiencing all the luxury just because of some poor people. Maybe they could've got talents and innovative mind, but to make money out of it can't be done all alone. Here the employees play the role, and from my personal understanding wealthy people too are suffering out of the economic situation. They aren't suffering without food as the poor, it is the government's responsibility to support the poor claiming from the business owners who aren't providing the salaries.

Bosses are firing their workers due to financial problem that they are experiencing during this pandemic, that is because they aren't allowed to operate and as they are paying their worker's wages the business have no profit to make it become stable. The reason why most of the businesses are closed it is because of the economic crisis that a country is experiencing. You can't pay your employee if they don't go to work, that's the reality of life. Celebrities are not that rich enough to pay all of those worker's salary even if they don't do their work, but they can give help or financial support amidst this pandemic.


But what is the sense of contracts if the business is closed? For sure if they still come after the contract then the business will soon become bankrupt.

it is just a word that has not been confirmed so that humanity has a life goal that can be achieved. life is like a spinning wheel friend we are not always in the top position there is a time we will also be in the bottom position. Those words are a spirit for us to spirit in reaching the corner of life. if we are just lazing we are just that position...?

They have number one to look after just like everyone else. It is poor business sense to let productive contractors wither but the companies know many of them will be back as they don't have any better options, that's if the companies that employ them survive. Everyone has taken a massive hit from the top to the bottom.

This is just sad. My grandmother usually tell me that rich people would be richer and poor people would be poorer, I never thought that I would be even seeing that happening in this world. They are trampling down these people since they have the power to do so.

Even if we support small businesses, how about those workers that have it rough too. Those people that can't just do their own thing since their career is always below someone.

Some of the people are being generous and helping their servants and maids. But at the same time, I have come across instances where people behave like animals. My cousin told me about one such occasion from Delhi. Where he lives, there is a poor laborer who use to wash cars and other personal vehicles, in exchange for INR 500 per month (around $6). My cousin's neighbor refused to pay even this meager amount, saying that because of lockdown the vehicle wasn't driven and therefore it wasn't dirty. Remember that this guy is working in a MNC, earning around $4,000 per month. The vehicle was being cleaned everyday, but the worker never received his payment. These people don't have any compassion or any moral values. I just hope that such people would get Coronavirus and die like dogs.

workers starting up their brand is not going to solve the problem. The truth is that there is no flow of money due to the pandemic. If you start your own business but customers are not coming to buy, it is the same. The only part of workforce that is enjoying now are those working with the government because the government cannot afford not to pay them. Many private organization are self centered and will not want to pay workers during the crisis because they are not making money like before. Except some multinational company that have existed for decades.

In this case these people aren't their employees. They're the employees of a company in a far off land contracted to work for them. If there's no income there's no reason to contract them and the company probably agreed to it as they're not going to be getting the most generous of terms.

It's not right but it's effectively the same everywhere you go, albeit with less dire consequences.

We can't run away from the truth that there are firms and companies that do not give a shit on those at the bottom of the living triangle. The world we are living in containing 7 billion people and it is hard for everyone to become a good person. I mean, bad guys are always there and they will try to take all the money to advantage themselves.

However, there are still good people around who willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of humankind. Many organizations, both profit and non-profit, are trying as best as they can to stop this pandemic as well as helping other people. They spend their time and their life in order to bring more benefits to those who can stand this pandemic, in both health and economy. And I always believe that goodness will defeat the evil

Some say that this pandemic shows the best in people but I would say that is shows the worse.
One of examples are these workers but they are not the only ones. Many employess are in very bad situation because they employers don't want to give up their standard and way of life and share bad times with their workers. And really bad situation is not yet here.
This just shows how selfish and self centered people are and they think only on themselves.

Poor workers.

They can't just do their jobs in this pandemic but that doesn't mean that they should not be paying their workers since it is their way of helping people in this hard times. Also, as far as I know he donated millions to fight covid19, but she can't pay her workers?

Brands would be brands. As celebs continue to buy and use it, fans and other people would do the same.

This virus has much worse economic impact rather than medical

If they can learn for a new thing, especially learning about bitcoin and they have skills, yes, they can start their own brands, offering their services to people, and receive payments in bitcoin. But we know that only a few people are willing to learn about something new, and many of them depend on offline jobs. So that will difficult for them to start their own brands or business.

It is not happening in the entertainment industry, but it's happening in other industries. Many companies, big or small companies, can't pay their workers. It's the effect of Covid-19 that is happening in many industries. It will be different from the companies that are getting funds from the state because they get some allocation of the funds used to pay the employees. The private companies will have this problem, and if they don't have strong funds or have a lot of money, those companies will not survive, and the companies will bankrupt.

Even with a liberal legislation, I really doubt these companies can get away from a situation like this... In my country (which is quite liberal in terms of labor and economics in general), the state would intervene very quickly and even withdraw their bank accounts if they did something like this. Plus they have a lot to lose in terms of public image, so I really doubt these companies will do such a thing.

I would never buy Adidas,H&M or Nike.Overpriced products(because of the famous brand),which production is outsourced in third world countries,so the production costs are as low as possible,while the profits are going in the company located in the US.
Unfortunately,this is how capitalism works.I assume that most of those companies that refuse to pay their employees have enough capital reserves to pay them,but the pretty liberal labor legislation,combined with weak and non-existent unions are allowing those companies to do whatever they want and treat their employees like slaves.

One thing that worsened in the past few months during the pandemic is the violation of human rights. A lot of daily wage earners and people who are dependent on their micro-businesses such as vendors lost their livelihood. As usual, no wage no food on the table.

While they were not allowed to go out from their homes to look for food, they also haven't received any assistance. This is killing them softly.

The economy is unfair during better days. Everything worsens during pandemic days. The leaders up there are oblivious to most of what these people are going through because they don't have an inkling as to their real day-to-day life.

Hence, it is utter hypocrisy or even an absolute myth to say that we are all prone to COVID-19 infection, that COVID-19 does not discriminate people according to economic status, that we are going through all this as one, and so on and so forth.

i guess it depends on the celebrity. for those that understand the plight of their employees during this pandemic, whether they have contract or not, they will help their employees if they are humane enough to consider the situation. they have the money and giving a small portion of it to the persons doing the hard work should not make them poor. unless the celebrity is also having financial difficulties..

That's kind of.. odd? I mean, do they have a reason big enough to decline to pay their workers? Plus, wasn't there a contract of sorts between those famous celebs and the workers to prevent this kind of thing? Or are those things just verbal agreements? Plus god these celebs earn more each week than their workers earn for each month. What's the problem with paying them? They're basically living off of huge villas, not to mention the multiple houses they probably own, and yet they can't even pay their workers for what they deserve?

Well, fame supersedes skill most of the time after all. If you were to ask to choose about a quality product that isn't famous and a bad product but was endorsed by literally every famous person out there, most would choose the latter instead of the former no? Still, some people acknowledge skill but would take quite a bit of time, making the idea itself hard to implement since time is one of the things that most people don't have right now.

I think that the payment for celebs are so high moreover they can earn those payments commonly from not only live jobs but also advertisement and others. And they have had much money before this pandemic. Don't they save the money?? At elast, paying the employees are not as high as their payment rates. But well, every celeb probably has different characteristics or also earning. Some of them probably are usual to live in a high lifestyle but no earning coming up again to them.
Yeah, lifestyle, probably becomes also the factor why they want to stay in a high styel but in fact they still have owe to pay for their employers. It is so sad to know the facts.

You know, this is also what happen in my country. Many people are jobless during this pandemic, decreased income because they cannot work outside. They have no earning. Some only have money for eating and they got it from the kind people who gave them for food. And very sadly, there was a mother who was died because of hunger in my country, it was so sad.

Consumers want brands primarily. If they want a non branded item they have a million choices anyway.

I think it would be very cool if developing world workers came up with a world beating brand off their own back but you need a mountain of marketing and finance.

No idea what the finances of the companies contracting these factories are like but many will have their own staff and own problems too. In the UK plenty of big operations are on their way out. People in far off lands not directly employed by them will be way down the list.

Same goes for Every other countries that suffer from pandemic, Some even experiencing economy recession right now



Depends on which case are we discussing about. If the workers were working for X days before the brand/company cease their operation then they should be paid for the X days that they havent received any payment for their job.


Totally disagree on the compensation part. I tend to look for a neutral option and in this case, it would be like this

Lets set an example, if you were a worker that work for $5 a day and receive your payment monthly then you should receive your rights as stated

If you work for 20 days before the company cease their operation then you should be receiving $5*20 = $100 for your work despite the fact that you would only receive your payment monthly.

The company you worked for will be suffering from the decrease of their revenue but they got no obligation to give you anything beyond what you should be receiving which is $100


Think of this like some sort of pyramid. Those who suffer would be the bottom layer of the pyramid and there are alot. The minority on the upper layer wont really suffer that much damage however once the bottom layer suffered alot as the foundation of the pyramid then the upper layer will feel some sort of effect as well

Think of this analogy as a country, those who suffer would be the lower class but with their large number then the whole country will be surely affected by it

As far as I know, the economic condition of bangladesh is not so well at this moment. In this pandemic situation, some private schools are selling to pay the fees of teachers. Garments are in big risk where it is the most important sector in GDP of Bangladesh.

Workers creating their own Brand? How is that going to work...? The whole thing about a Brand is the celebrities endorsing it and their millions of followers wanting to buy their products. 

In any way, the best way to deal with things like this ...is to expose them and I think the way you are doing this.. is already a step in the right direction. Name and shame these celebrities with facts in the public and they will quickly make apologies and also pay what is due.    (It is all about the image and the money for them)

It's been always between the rich and the poor, let the reality be real.

The people who runs the most of the economy will suffer once a chaos is developing. Those who are in the engine of the train will suffer when there is a problem, and those who eats on the cabin will feel comfort until the situation threatens them enough. It is easier for a boss to fire his workers during this time, they can just made a reason because of the pandemic. Paying the workers, including a situational circumstance like this will depend on the contract signed by them especially if they are working with celebrity. Don't hate anyone, let us be equal here, take a look on the contracts.

No wonder it's neither their mistake nor the mistake of people who work for them. If industries, businesses and celebs keep paying their workers in full wages then how do you think they could keep up their own lifestyle.

What I mean by lifestyle here?

Well those celebs might have gotten huge homes, cars, bank loans and they need to pay EMI as well. Their accounts manager surely had calculated these EMI's based on their current payscales. Now, here is the twist! They are not working, they are not singing, nor they acting so the money flow has stopped for them as well. If they keep paying EMI's as well as the wages to workers then soon they will drain their bank accounts and I don't think it's good idea.

Paying them with cut off wages is still win-win situation for both of them. Since, those workers might not be working due to lockdown's and corona outbreak threats. So it's still good idea to keep it that way. This way both of them can be happy.

Same formula applies to people working in other sectors.

Labour is not valued in most developing countries and some with large populations, people are expected to feel fortunate to have a source of income at all and as such would accept any payment they're giving. I see such situations in my country, the minimum wage is set really low even though it was just recently increased, and doesn't qualify as a minimum living wage, some establishments however still pay much lower and such offers are still accepted.

Most of these workers function in niche areas and lack the necessary idea, knowledge and capital to venture out on their own. Not everyone has the option of turning to educated wealthy neighbors to assist them. They could of course pitch their ideas to investors, but such opportunities are limited.

In this economic situation, employees of private establishments are definitely going to face more trouble getting paid for their services, that's if they do not get laid off. In the government establishments, workers are still paid salaries even when the nation was locked down indefinitely; at least if they weren't paid then, the salaries were queued up as salaries owed, but those working for private owned firms are not so lucky, you do not get paid if you do not work and most of this establishments just recently reopened, so they are still struggling to generate income from their business, it's not the fault of the employers nor the workers.
The personal assets of the employer is not important, this are individuals that own numerous businesses, and workers receive their salary on what the particular company they work for makes, if the company is not generating any income atm, paying workers becomes an issue, the owner can't deep hands into his own private pockets or sell properties to pay up.

This is that time of the century I would say where all the established companies, big brands, celebrities who are public figure because of the people's love and support have made them. They should not forget that it is that love and so much passionate support from the people only they are today celebrities or big companies and when they are multi-millionaires or rich they can easily afford to give the wages to their workers. This is also the humanity part which they should be showing towards their workers.

It's always been those people at the bottom who will suffer the most during a crisis or economic decline. It's one of the major problems brought by the pandemic since millions of people are suffering from no income and some even lost their job during the lockdown. But I don't think companies should get charged for not paying their workers since they were forced to stop the operation and there's no job done during the lockdown so they are not obliged to pay them for the days they didn't work. Also, the fact that during those days, they have no revenue. However, I also get the point of the workers that they are only depending on their income and nobody wants this pandemic. Companies should have just sent help or compensation for their workers since they have funds like this for emergencies.


They are small workers, they can hardly find the money for their food so how come they can start their own brand?  Let's say even if they start their own brand, they can't easily make that business big compare to the company where they are working. It will be hard for them to export their products so they can only sell their products locally. But my concern is, would there be enough customers that will use bitcoin as payment.

To these "bosses" the workers are nothing more than tools that you use and throw away when they are no longer needed. The only way they can fight is by refusing to work for those people who are known as dishonest and exposing them in the Internet and the media. They more proof they're able to gather the better because for those people (celebrities and brands) the only thing that matters is the public image. Damage that and you'll have them on their knees.

I do think most of the people out there are aware of the fact that many big celebrity bands and companies due to Quarantine Declined the payment to the people working for them in small underdeveloped countries like Bangladesh.
People started commenting on the posts of these brands and celebs *pay up* , the comments were soon turned off on their Instagram handle.
I do not know if this topic has already been started but I did think it would help to spread the word.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/06/05/869486297/for-bangladeshs-struggling-garment-workers-hunger-is-a-bigger-worry-than-pandemi

A sad statement by a worker mentioned:
*I will die of hunger before I die of the virus*

Some brands agreed to pay up after the people were enraged and in distress , it's a small price to pay when these people are not even making 100$ a month and they are selling the product they make 10 times the profit sometimes.

__________________________________________________________ Around £2.4 billion was withheld from the workers of small factories.

Even celebs like Kylie Jenner who makes more than what these workers combined would make in a lifetime ignored the plea of the workers asking them to pay them so that they don't die of hunger.

All of this shows the effects of quarantine , the declining economic situation have sure effected the small companies, minority workers paid not even what we would call a reasonable payment.

All of it have affected the small workers and companies more , problem is most of their companies are even eligible for the government grants !!

Human rights workers contacted these companies and talked with them too , good news is some companies did agree to pay up and at the same time they distributed masks for the workers and improved the health conditions.

This is how unfair the economy is , this is what we mean when we say the poor is getting poorer and the rich is getting Richer .

I do think these companies and celebs should not only pay up they should also face charges for doing this .

[ This is how strong the company label is , it might have been made in a small slum area but when it goes to big countries and companies its sold off for 10-20 times their normal value ]

What if these people , these small workers start their own brands and directly receive payments in Bitcoins ?  What matters is skills , the price will be cheaper for the person buying it and these people will even make more.
[ Payments options can be varied , they can accept wide variety of payments and maybe educated people living near them can help them with investments , even if they start selling their products locally it would be a great deal ! ]

This is why educating people about their options are important, I do think we should spread the word , support the small markets , this pandemic has shown how pity some of these big companies are .