Topic: [EDU] Read Before Trading (Read 616 times)
Very usefull information about escrow thanks man.
Of course I find this thread very helpful because it really pointed out some hidden secrets of the possibly illegal dealing that is going here and it help us to know how and why it is necessary to make use of escrow services.
This is a really useful thread for people that don't know about this kind of things. Thanks for it.
Ty , glad you find this useful .
I will update the topic with more informations in couple of minuts , so please if you have any suggestions as I stated above , feel free to say.
This is a really useful thread for people that don't know about this kind of things. Thanks for it.
Of course I find this thread very helpful because it really pointed out some hidden secrets of the possibly illegal dealing that is going here and it help us to know how and why it is necessary to make use of escrow services.
Bringing this topic to the top so some people read it and hopefully you find if useful 
those who have social media accounts like Reddit please sumbit it on the Bitcoin section or something .
those who have social media accounts like Reddit please sumbit it on the Bitcoin section or something .
I just wrote this so you guys take precautions before trading , so you don't cry after getting scammed so here are few things that you should take in consideration [Feel free to give me more so I add them]
Using an Escrow
Using an escrow is definitly the most important thing we should take in consideration on this section , if you ignore this step then you shouldn't go to the Scam accusation when you get scammed .
An escrow is basically a middleman and here is how it works :
Escrow list : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778 (Top five are recommended but others are trusted aswell)
Social Engineering :
You may find some people offering services like refunding Google play in-game purchases or Amazon items that you bought saying that this service is legit .
What does this even means ? It means that you will for example Buy PS4 from Amazon , this refunder guy will call Amazon using some SE techniques something like (Box is empty and that kind of thing) and they will refund you which will leave you with two PS4 .
Well , this kind of services is totally illegal and you should take it seriously (Note that you may get in trouble because of it)
Carding :
Carding is term describing the trafficking of credit card, bank account and other personal information online as well as related fraud services. Carding activities also encompass procurement of details, and money laundering techniques.
If you see cheap Steam wallets , Starbucks gift cards then don't be dumb and you should right away that something phishy is going on unless it's BiPolarBob
or another trusted member on the community
Steam refunds
We can't deny the fact that there is shitload of transactions going on Digital goods section and most of them is for Steam (Dosen't matter if they are gifts , CSGO Keys , Dota 2 or any other game) , so before trading you should consider the following things aswell (seller could do this) :
Steam Refunds
You can request a refund for nearly any purchase on Steam—for any reason. Maybe your PC doesn't meet the hardware requirements; maybe you bought a game by mistake; maybe you played the title for an hour and just didn't like it.
It doesn't matter. Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any reason, if the request is made within fourteen days of purchase, and the title has been played for less than two hours. There are more details below, but even if you fall outside of the refund rules we’ve described, you can ask for a refund anyway and we’ll take a look.
You will be issued a full refund of your purchase within a week of approval. You will receive the refund in Steam Wallet funds or through the same payment method you used to make the purchase. If, for any reason, Steam is unable to issue a refund via your initial payment method, your Steam Wallet will be credited the full amount. (Some payment methods available through Steam in your country may not support refunding a purchase back to the original payment method. Click here for a full list.)
Where Refunds Apply
The Steam refund offer, within two weeks of purchase and with less than two hours of playtime, applies to games and software applications on the Steam store. Here is an overview of how refunds work with other types of purchases.
Refunds on Downloadable Content
(Steam store content usable within another game or software application, "DLC")
DLC purchased from the Steam store is refundable within fourteen days of purchase, and if the underlying title has been played for less than two hours since the DLC was purchased, so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred. Please note that in some cases, Steam will be unable to give refunds for some third party DLC (for example, if the DLC irreversibly levels up a game character). These exceptions will be clearly marked as nonrefundable on the Store page prior to purchase.
Refunds on In-game Purchases
Steam will offer refund for in-game purchases within any Valve-developed games within forty-eight hours of purchase, so long as the in-game item has not been consumed, modified or transferred. Third-party developers will have the option to enable refunds for in-game items on these terms. Steam will tell you at the time of purchase if the game developer has opted to offer refunds on the in-game item you are buying. Otherwise, in-game purchases in non-Valve games are not refundable through Steam.
Refunds on Pre-Purchased Titles
When you pre-purchase a title on Steam (and have paid for the title in advance), you can request a refund at any time prior to release of that title. The standard 14-day/two-hour refund period also applies, starting on the game’s release date.
Steam Wallet Refunds
You may request a refund for Steam Wallet funds within fourteen days of purchase if they were purchased on Steam and if you have not used any of those funds.
Refunds on Bundles
You can receive a full refund for any bundle purchased on the Steam Store, so long as none of the items in the bundle have been transferred, and if the combined usage time for all items in the bundle is less than two hours. If a bundle includes an in-game item or DLC that is not refundable, Steam will tell you if the whole bundle is refundable during check-out.
Purchases Made Outside of Steam
Valve cannot provide refunds for purchases made outside of Steam (for example, CD keys or Steam wallet cards purchased from third parties).
VAC Bans
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.
Movies
We are unable to offer refunds for movies on Steam.
Refunds on Gifts
We are unable to offer refunds for gifts after they have been redeemed by the recipient.
Abuse
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.
How to Request a Refund
You can request a refund or get other assistance with your Steam purchases at help.steampowered.com.
Last updated June 2, 2015
Others
I'am not sure if you guys find this useful but I guess it is , at least just a little bit . So if you think I should add something to this let me know and I will do it .
Using an Escrow
Using an escrow is definitly the most important thing we should take in consideration on this section , if you ignore this step then you shouldn't go to the Scam accusation when you get scammed .
An escrow is basically a middleman and here is how it works :
Escrow list : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-escrows-trade-safely-855778 (Top five are recommended but others are trusted aswell)
Social Engineering :
You may find some people offering services like refunding Google play in-game purchases or Amazon items that you bought saying that this service is legit .
What does this even means ? It means that you will for example Buy PS4 from Amazon , this refunder guy will call Amazon using some SE techniques something like (Box is empty and that kind of thing) and they will refund you which will leave you with two PS4 .
Well , this kind of services is totally illegal and you should take it seriously (Note that you may get in trouble because of it)
Carding :
Carding is term describing the trafficking of credit card, bank account and other personal information online as well as related fraud services. Carding activities also encompass procurement of details, and money laundering techniques.
If you see cheap Steam wallets , Starbucks gift cards then don't be dumb and you should right away that something phishy is going on unless it's BiPolarBob
or another trusted member on the community Steam refunds
We can't deny the fact that there is shitload of transactions going on Digital goods section and most of them is for Steam (Dosen't matter if they are gifts , CSGO Keys , Dota 2 or any other game) , so before trading you should consider the following things aswell (seller could do this) :
Quote
Steam Refunds
You can request a refund for nearly any purchase on Steam—for any reason. Maybe your PC doesn't meet the hardware requirements; maybe you bought a game by mistake; maybe you played the title for an hour and just didn't like it.
It doesn't matter. Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any reason, if the request is made within fourteen days of purchase, and the title has been played for less than two hours. There are more details below, but even if you fall outside of the refund rules we’ve described, you can ask for a refund anyway and we’ll take a look.
You will be issued a full refund of your purchase within a week of approval. You will receive the refund in Steam Wallet funds or through the same payment method you used to make the purchase. If, for any reason, Steam is unable to issue a refund via your initial payment method, your Steam Wallet will be credited the full amount. (Some payment methods available through Steam in your country may not support refunding a purchase back to the original payment method. Click here for a full list.)
Where Refunds Apply
The Steam refund offer, within two weeks of purchase and with less than two hours of playtime, applies to games and software applications on the Steam store. Here is an overview of how refunds work with other types of purchases.
Refunds on Downloadable Content
(Steam store content usable within another game or software application, "DLC")
DLC purchased from the Steam store is refundable within fourteen days of purchase, and if the underlying title has been played for less than two hours since the DLC was purchased, so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred. Please note that in some cases, Steam will be unable to give refunds for some third party DLC (for example, if the DLC irreversibly levels up a game character). These exceptions will be clearly marked as nonrefundable on the Store page prior to purchase.
Refunds on In-game Purchases
Steam will offer refund for in-game purchases within any Valve-developed games within forty-eight hours of purchase, so long as the in-game item has not been consumed, modified or transferred. Third-party developers will have the option to enable refunds for in-game items on these terms. Steam will tell you at the time of purchase if the game developer has opted to offer refunds on the in-game item you are buying. Otherwise, in-game purchases in non-Valve games are not refundable through Steam.
Refunds on Pre-Purchased Titles
When you pre-purchase a title on Steam (and have paid for the title in advance), you can request a refund at any time prior to release of that title. The standard 14-day/two-hour refund period also applies, starting on the game’s release date.
Steam Wallet Refunds
You may request a refund for Steam Wallet funds within fourteen days of purchase if they were purchased on Steam and if you have not used any of those funds.
Refunds on Bundles
You can receive a full refund for any bundle purchased on the Steam Store, so long as none of the items in the bundle have been transferred, and if the combined usage time for all items in the bundle is less than two hours. If a bundle includes an in-game item or DLC that is not refundable, Steam will tell you if the whole bundle is refundable during check-out.
Purchases Made Outside of Steam
Valve cannot provide refunds for purchases made outside of Steam (for example, CD keys or Steam wallet cards purchased from third parties).
VAC Bans
If you have been banned by VAC (the Valve Anti-Cheat system) on a game, you lose the right to refund that game.
Movies
We are unable to offer refunds for movies on Steam.
Refunds on Gifts
We are unable to offer refunds for gifts after they have been redeemed by the recipient.
Abuse
Refunds are designed to remove the risk from purchasing titles on Steam—not as a way to get free games. If it appears to us that you are abusing refunds, we may stop offering them to you. We do not consider it abuse to request a refund on a title that was purchased just before a sale and then immediately rebuying that title for the sale price.
How to Request a Refund
You can request a refund or get other assistance with your Steam purchases at help.steampowered.com.
Last updated June 2, 2015
Others
- Do not use Escrow services websites , you may get scammed .
- Scammer is probably going to try convince you by showing you his trust on LocalBitcoins or other forums/website , don't fall on his trap.
- Even if the user have positive trust , make sure to see how much the value (in USD) of the trade and compare it with your trade with him .
I'am not sure if you guys find this useful but I guess it is , at least just a little bit . So if you think I should add something to this let me know and I will do it .
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