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December 14, 2024, 03:41:19 AM
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When I see topic like this , I just conclude the OP doesn't know what's education or his seeing university graduate as educators only. Education is very broad concept and the only way to succes, without education no one as ever seen succes ful or will ever see. First education is the transfer of knowledge from one person to another.  Its could be form or inform. Its form when your develop the cognitive through attending school, it's informal when your develop the psycomotive ( learning skills) all of these are education, so tell me how you can be successful without learning from one another.  

I think the OP did injustice to education and he should just change the topic.
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December 10, 2024, 04:11:56 PM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.

Measuring success with how much you have in your account is totally wrong. Success is not about making money alone. Don't be deceived because people are now making money through different means and think that they are successful. Nobody said that making money was only meant for those that went to the university. And mind you the university education is not the only education that one can go through to be considered as educated. Majority of the youths you are referencing went through primary and secondary education. And for someone who has went through secondary education and can read and write, you are considered as educated. Someone who haven't gone through primary or secondary school will find it difficult to cope in whatever he/she is doing. If you say university education is no longer the criteria for success I will agree.

But talking down on education generally is where I will disagree with you. Remember we have formal and informal education and for you to make it in this life, you must either pass through formal or informal education. In the end all are classified as education. For you to learn trade or business from someone that's education taking place. Learning of skills that's still education. Anyhow you see it, we still need education to progress in life.
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December 09, 2024, 06:58:44 PM
#27
Definitely,my opinion on this again be say,who go succeed go succeed,e doesnt matter whether the person been go school or not,as long as he has that brain of doing something productive,there is every tendency say him go do well.
Gone are those days when our fathers been finish school con get get job immediately,and even offer them car,now,things don change hand,you no go ever see any free opportunity like that,na you gat make move,and pave way for yourself.
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November 26, 2024, 03:48:08 PM
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If education is really a criteria why are we still under developed and among the poorest countries in the world, meanwhile we have lots of graduates with first class and higher CGPA, education does not certify anyone to be successful. I  rather be an undergraduate with good finance than a graduate with nothing to show for. In my words, i am not brutally against education but taken it as the ultimate when there are skills, handworks and talents that can be explored into perfect sense to reshape and resize ones finance, instead we prioritize the certificate other than the right thing to do. Get a good education, but do not be dependent on that certificate, many has gotten that paper work before you so putting it ahead always will only cause a tragic ending.
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November 24, 2024, 03:40:06 PM
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These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.

You are explaining from the point of view you can see and understand about education but it may not totally be how you see it that they tend to be all today still. Your education and the certificate given to you which was obtained from school may not give you the job which you fought to go to the school for, but it’ll for sure pave some other ways for you in life general that if you never had the education it’ll be harder for you to understand that or it may even be something you can never attain. No matter how bad the economy of the country is, you need to understand that education cannot be disregarded as a pivotal tool to a more easier and successful life than an uneducated person will achieve without being educated.
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November 24, 2024, 11:21:05 AM
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I believe education is not completely the criteria to success but with the advancement of technology and science, everything now is attached to knowledge. Let's take for instance, most businesses are ran through online and an illiterate will find it hard doing business. Education is also a criteria but not completely the backbone of success.
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November 23, 2024, 01:32:49 PM
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I was unable to get good job in my country but one thing that I do not regret after having a tough time in University is that I went to school. School was hard but if you can remember very well it was also fun. You meet people and also everything is not about school but also there are fun parts.

Also education is not only about getting a good job. Education can help you in knowing what you can do to make a living.

It is always a case that the extra curricula activities during school is the best part of the schooling. While you may have just decided to study at home and register for courses remotely, some people have left gone as far as traveling offshore looking for this same education. It is not just the lectures that matter, what matters most is the people you meet, the network you built and the exposure yu get in the process. It helps you become better placed and better informed in the world.

It depends how someone looks at it. Most successful people have gotten a story to tell from their schooling. Either by meeting with their helpers or friends in which they later built trades and businesses. The advantage of education to one's life is enormous and cannot be overemphasized.
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November 18, 2024, 01:18:36 AM
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I nor sure sey e get anytime wey dem stamp am sey persin gat to enta school to become successful. Na mindset make people begin think dat way because those days na few people go school and gofment jobs plenty die. So, dat time graduates dem dey get jobs already waiting for dem as dem dey graduate come out. Most of those positions too den dey come with official cars. So, anybody wey go school den e mean sey automatically you go get job after school and begin earn.

But dat nor really be wetin success dey about. Nor be about getting jobs. E supposed be about self fulfilment.. Shebi we dey see apprentice businessmen with zero education but dem dey run their businesses well. Na part of wetin success supposed be.
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November 17, 2024, 10:23:29 AM
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Education was a criteria for success before,and that was in the olden days,times when they really valued education.
It was also a time when getting education was very hard,and for anyone who was able to go to school then was employed Immediately by the government.
Nowadays,there are no guarantees that one's you educated,you are going to get a job,the moment you are hard-working,it doesn't mean whether you went to school or not.
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November 14, 2024, 03:28:34 PM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.

I don't think our parents where entirely wrong, in those days after graduation there where lots of companies, industries, factories, multinationals and even the civil service, where you can work and earn a good living for yourself, so education was the bedrock that will enable you ascertain that kind of lifestyle.

But I would like to correct one impression that you are putting out, you said "these days the youth have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in higher institution in order to attain success".  in education there is what we call formal and informal education. In informal education, this is the category where you have artesians, skilled and unskilled professions and their likes, these set of persons don't necessarily need to have a higher education for them to earn a living, they just need to have the skill set of a particular profession they've learnt handy for them to earn a living with it. While the formal education teaches you professionalism as an educated and a career person, this comes with a certain profession like the medical doctor, the lawyer the engineer, an accountant and the rest of it. So far apart that you did not get your hair allocation does not mean you are making to survive of naked in life successfully in whatever career you decided to pursue outside education.
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November 14, 2024, 01:58:36 AM
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Education does not guarantee's success neither does education guarantee's a better life. Success is not about being educated and success doesn't come from academics, there lots of people who are well educated yet not successful neither do they have a good job But however education is important in other not to miss out any opportunity in life . In aspect of a white collar job aside the aspect of  a white collar job to be able to express yourself in any social gathering . However success comes from a good skill and hardwork
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November 13, 2024, 03:18:39 PM
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Education is still the key to success weather you believe it or not. You cannot succeed without knowledge which is gotten through education be it formal and informal education.  If you want to go into business,the first step will be to get the relevant knowledge either through someone who have been in the business for long or through the knowledge of formal education. Both cases are still part of education which shows that education is indispensable for success. If your emphasis is on formal education, then you will be right that it is no longer  criteria even though it can be a big boost.
Yes  what you are saying is right education is still the key to success , one thing that majority fails to understand is that we have different kind of education.formal education and informal education so since the saying goes that education is the key to success ,it was not specify that formal education is the key to success neither was it specify that informal education is the key to success rather it was general so if you done have any of this form of education there is no way you can survive in this world . Even in this forum if you don't have any form of education you can not be here in this forum.
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November 12, 2024, 08:48:41 AM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.


Yes growing up we were made to understand that good education is the key way to success in life. And everyone had one mindset and one goal when it comes to being successful. Which is get good education by going to the university then study and graduate then come out with good grades and then boom there you go.

The truth is, it’s a still works that way but not with the way the system has changed. Now the system has made it look like education is not worth it. But that’s not true. It’s good to get a good education, but must have something to back it up so you don’t get the good education and with your grades you look stup*d and hopeless.

One should learn a skill. If permitted have a stable business before diving in to the university after getting your O level cert.
this way you won’t fall victim of them who with their degree can’t afford a living
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November 11, 2024, 05:06:15 AM
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Education is still the key to success weather you believe it or not. You cannot succeed without knowledge which is gotten through education be it formal and informal education.  If you want to go into business,the first step will be to get the relevant knowledge either through someone who have been in the business for long or through the knowledge of formal education. Both cases are still part of education which shows that education is indispensable for success. If your emphasis is on formal education, then you will be right that it is no longer  criteria even though it can be a big boost.

I think most people narrow down education to only the formal schools of learning which must be established by the westerners or the likes, they do not factor in the fact that it is not only the western education that is formal. There are also religious educations which are acquired formally with curriculum like your western schools. But is it even just the formal education that's the only form of education?

No. Even the informal education like learning self-thought hard and soft skills are also forms of education. It does not stop there, even watching of online videos, chatting with educators and learned friends are also forms of education. Vocational training such as welding, tailoring and other skills are forms of education or better a said, a way of getting educated.
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November 09, 2024, 04:26:37 PM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.


Education can still determine your success. You just find it hard to understand it in the best way; if not, without education, you will not know how to speak different languages and also how to communicate with different investors. Education is never a waste. Moreover, we are not supposed to see the fault of our parents because at their time there were a lot of companies that were looking for educated workers to work with, but due to how many of them were not educated, they lost the opportunity, and they tried their best to see that we didn’t make the same mistakes with them, but at the end of our time almost everyone is corrupt and there are more vacancies in those companies, so we have to find a way to create our own company that will provide us with a good income.
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November 08, 2024, 03:05:35 PM
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School is not the major route to success but the best advise i can give is never to be uneducated at this point where owning a certificate is the most common objective that majority stive to ascertain. If you don't prioritize it as a financial source but at least make sure by every possible means to be a graduate with a pretty good grade.

Nobody knows how the future might play, due to how bad the economy is becoming, nobody knows how lucky you might get with that certificate, i think with the way things are playing already everything moves with connection and lucky enough if you have built that relation during schooling days.

Along the long line of getting the degree, we also get to meet up lots of people that potentially can contribute to our success in the future which is unforeseen at the time, so education is not a waste of time.
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November 08, 2024, 12:43:41 PM
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The likes of the former successful men and women in the early days (before the 15th century that education was introduced to our people) did not archive success via education but rather true hard work. Hard work I mean is specifically on agricultural products. At that time, the richest men and women were farmers.

During the 19th century after education started gaining popularity, that was when some parents started to send some of their lazy (😪🤣) children to go and study and after their study, they immediately got employed. But yet, the strong men where kept to do the hard fram work.

So, what am just trying to say is that, from time immemorial, success was never determined by education. This time around, just work smart and gain the necessary knowledge of being success and you will be successful.
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November 08, 2024, 02:43:58 AM
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OP, u see dis education something, I no dey joke wit am. I'm not employed, neither am I receiving salary from the government, but my dear, the power gotten from education has provided me with the knowledge and skill to survive, relate with people and become useful to my society. What of this forum, am sure you can already see the magnificent work of education all day long.

To measure how important education is, you will notice that even fraudsters, looters, criminals, even business men, wether small scale or big, etc, also needs education to showcase their technical know-how, plan and also execute their plans which gives birth to success.

Just like @Hewlet said, education, be it formal or informal, trains you to be self employed. Be educated and become self reliant and build the much desired success you seek for. And that's just it. Enough of waiting for employment. Sincerely, be it now, tomorrow or even in death, I will still fly the flags of education as a major tool to change, greatness and success.






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November 08, 2024, 01:50:27 AM
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Education is still the key to success weather you believe it or not. You cannot succeed without knowledge which is gotten through education be it formal and informal education.  If you want to go into business,the first step will be to get the relevant knowledge either through someone who have been in the business for long or through the knowledge of formal education. Both cases are still part of education which shows that education is indispensable for success. If your emphasis is on formal education, then you will be right that it is no longer  criteria even though it can be a big boost.
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November 07, 2024, 06:02:11 PM
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I guess we all heard the same stories of how there was less labour force and people are made to start working right after their secondary school days as I was told in those days. After you’ve been employed, you can still continue schooling part time and still getting paid every month. Things have really changed now and I think the government really has a very big role to play in it. The population is increasing which will result to more labour force but as government are not taking advantage of that to even help boost the economy, the common man child looks for other means to make ends meet and see education as not the power to become successful today. Education is important regardless and the benefits are unhindered even in your struggle for other means of survival which didn’t come through your study from school.
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November 07, 2024, 02:22:34 PM
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Why do you guys misplaced this ideas, and who tell you guys that education is a waste of time, or that education have lose it potential of generating future successful individuals.

What I want to know is that:

1: Are you mistaking education to certificate?

2: do you mean the level and kind of courses we read in school is no longer marketable to give success.

What my conclusion is about this is that, education is the most important tool for success, regardless in which Field or career, reason being that, check most of those who are successful in their business, are mostly educated fork's, is either they pursue their course of study and career line, e.g doctor's, engineers and the rest, but we have those who also left their course of study into entrepreneur, and are successful, all through the decipline the get from school and the level of education, this makes the place of education in individual success very important and potient.
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November 07, 2024, 09:30:34 AM
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These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.
Though our government, educational and political system may have failed us over the years when it comes to effective learning in this country, one thing I know for sure is that education can never be over-emphasize, irrespective we have these group of young guys known as the yahoo, who fluent expensive lifestyle at an early stage without a visible source of income, hence, making education to look like a scam, most especially after an individual has graduated from a university and yet has no job or source of income, due to corruption in the system.

However, for the fact that you went to school is never a guarantee for success, because although success could be measured in different ways, such as educational (i.e when you graduate with good grades), spiritual and financial success, of which all these are always a product of hard work, patience and dedication over time.
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November 07, 2024, 04:05:24 AM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.

If you compare life back then with life now it was easy to believe that success could only be achieved through education because every successful person back then passed through school. Work was easy to get and once you are done with school there are lots of job opportunities awaiting, the country and economy was still favorable but now that is not the case, a lot of people have graduated from school for years now and still haven’t gotten a job people are now forced to try out other sources and ever since the advancement of technology more employment opportunities have now presented themselves making it possible for people to work online while some are into physical businesses. People have now turned away from government jobs and even see school as waste of time and resources.

Education have a lot to do in our lives and even with the scarcity of jobs we shouldn’t regard it as scam and we should make sure our children are educated no matter what because it exposes us to and prepare us against diffident situations in life.
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November 07, 2024, 03:26:18 AM
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These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.

the youths have not proven anything. They didn't have a choice and have to resort to whatever available means of making money and hopefully the media platforms and freelancing jobs came up and it helped in a way.

If like say you de talk of the Nigerian schooling system as not being a criteria for success, e for make sense but saying that education is no longer a criteria for success is totally wrong. Be it formal or informal education, they are all recipes for your success in whatever choosen field you're currently in. Even the formal education that we so much criticize still expose us to a lot of the people and network we've built that's still helping us in today's world. Take out formal education and a lot of people would still be in villages doing local farming or fishing on a smaller scale without knowing how far the world has gone in that sector.

Truth be say time don change and for this era, you no need de carry your certificate up and down looking for who will employ you. The educational system wasn't even designed to train you to work for people all the days of your life. If you're able to acquire a knowledge that helps you to become self employed, it even make sense pass working for government  that comes with a small pay with loads of responsibility. In this era, you need education, you need skillset, you need connection and you also need God for you to do well not just for the short term but for a long time.
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November 07, 2024, 02:33:35 AM
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I was unable to get good job in my country but one thing that I do not regret after having a tough time in University is that I went to school. School was hard but if you can remember very well it was also fun. You meet people and also everything is not about school but also there are fun parts.

Also education is not only about getting a good job. Education can help you in knowing what you can do to make a living.
the exposure to people was worth it , but a little disappointing perhaps, as we couldn't achieve what we thought education had in store for us.
The different people I met changed me A lot positively. I mean that was how I even got to know about this forum.
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November 06, 2024, 04:00:39 PM
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Education will still be necessary for growth since it broaden your horizons, seeing different individuals of different qualities will definitely help in growth and that's why a student in Havard have much respect and recognition than other top universities also since they will be among high level individuals including lecturers.

Also, this helps in gaining knowledge, though knowledge is necessarily not gained only through education rather a catalyst for acquiring knowledge and it's important to note that entrepreneurship is the way to actual financial freedom since if you're dependant on salary only, once you retire you're back to trying to find a way to settle and this are and still the issues of many who don't likely planned well in their early days of being an employee.
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November 06, 2024, 03:39:10 PM
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I was unable to get good job in my country but one thing that I do not regret after having a tough time in University is that I went to school. School was hard but if you can remember very well it was also fun. You meet people and also everything is not about school but also there are fun parts.

Also education is not only about getting a good job. Education can help you in knowing what you can do to make a living.

Yeah that's where most folks do get it wrong , they usually have this mindset that once you go to school one will endup getting a good job like is guarantee. The truth is that education is just there to get you in some aspects of Life, though the education system in our country is tough due to low facilities and other stuff.

But the thing is that the knowledge you gain all those while matters alot , without it though most folks here won't be able to pull off those qualities post they are pulling now . So education still play a role in becoming successful still, despite you here some folks got rich without going to higher institutions, but still they still undergoes system of education .
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November 06, 2024, 02:32:15 PM
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I was unable to get good job in my country but one thing that I do not regret after having a tough time in University is that I went to school. School was hard but if you can remember very well it was also fun. You meet people and also everything is not about school but also there are fun parts.

Also education is not only about getting a good job. Education can help you in knowing what you can do to make a living.
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November 06, 2024, 02:24:50 PM
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I can remember while Growing up, Education was the frontier of our entire Goals and aspirations. I was made to think that I could never attain success without a better education. Not just me but also so many kids back then.
My dad used to tell us stories of how companies would line up in university seeking for graduates to come work for them, it wasn't a matter of how good you were butif you completed everything necessary. But these days it's vice versa.
These days the youths have proven that you don't necessarily need to be fully educated in the higher institutions in order to attain success . I guess things change and in the latter years to come , they'll be something quite different.
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