Topic: Effect of amazon fire ? (Read 538 times)

How it would never be a problem if you said that it can cause a faster climate change? The food Web can be affected on this case and also you, you can affect also by this even you are not besides amazon forest, not now but soon I think.

even if the whole amazon forest disappeared/burned down the oxygen supply is never the problem because the oxygen produces by amazon forest barely leaves
the forest because the oxygen is almost up by the species, organism, microbes etc.. that are living there(like I said at the first page of this thread). the main problem
we would have is that the trees in amazon forest absorb Co² in the atmosphere and without the amazon forest the CO² would remain in the atmosphere
and will contribute to a faster climate change.

It not suddenly take affect because we have a supply but of course when the time comes we can feel it by the huge number of oxygen given off by trees that's why the population take a lot of oxygen but we have a limited supply so it can cause from people to die, not immediately but their lives become shorter.

The answer to that question is simple and plain that if the amazon forest get burn then there will be natural catastrophic events all over the globe as these forest are considered the LUNGS of the world and if something happen to the lungs then all system in that case whole ecosystem will started to collapse and when they will reach the threshold then whole planet will go BOOM with different natural disasters.

Thats what will happen if amazon get burn. But thats a big IF so ....

The answer to that question is simple and plain that if the amazon forest get burn then there will be natural catastrophic events all over the globe as these forest are considered the LUNGS of the world and if something happen to the lungs then all system in that case whole ecosystem will started to collapse and when they will reach the threshold then whole planet will go BOOM with different natural disasters.

Thats what will happen if amazon get burn. But thats a big IF so ....

What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

After that incident, there will be another problem for us to face. We as human beings are now prone to another global problem on our planet. consider that we have already achieve the devastating result from our failure to clean our planet to stop global warming, Now the problem is more and more critical because there will be fewer trees to stop the heat from the sun to directly hit our planet. Expect to feel more temperature when you go out of your houses. As I experience it my self, It was already 3 pm when I was walking in our local market but the heat of the sun is like 12 noon. this is the problem we are facing now and it is almost impossible to stop.

Amazon is known as the lungs of earth and definitely if lungs get damage whole body will face threat and the most intimidating part is speed with which it got burn.

Your English and style sure is a good match for Semobo.  So is the style and use of logic.  Same person (or algorithm)?

Anyway, if omnivorous humans required the 'entire planet' to be grazing lands in order to satisfy their needs for meat, then why is the 'entire planet' not currently deforested?

Your English and style sure is a good match for Semobo.  So is the style and use of logic.  Same person (or algorithm)?

Anyway, if omnivorous humans required the 'entire planet' to be grazing lands in order to satisfy their needs for meat, then why is the 'entire planet' not currently deforested?

This fire won't have more impact than people who are eating meat and where we need to deforest the entire planet just for making their meat. Without talking about greenhouse gas.

Effect of amazon fire?

Some people who live above the Arctic Circle, are moving there (the amazon) just to get warm.

 

Fired wood will turn into the coal beds but the rotten wood will not turn into coal bed as far as I know.

https://www.dkfindout.com/us/animals-and-nature/habitats-and-ecosystems/rotting-log/

Which will turn into a place for million tiny organisms and also stops soil erosion.

No they don't, and they are about the only terrestrial environment which does not.  They turn into coal beds and sequester carbon under the surface of the earth for millions of years.

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Rotten bogs may turn into a natural fertilizer in very few days of time.

'Modern' furniture is typically made of plastic.  Hominids have been using trees for furniture since about the time of Homo Habilis at least.  That's a few million years ago for you scientific illiterates.

As for 'useless' furniture, I assume you sit your ass on something while you type nonsense on a keyboard.  Even if it is a chair provided by the government in a public library, it's still made of something.  Making furniture out of wood the old fashioned way provides a lot more jobs than using a robotically controlled extruder.

Indeed, if you want to 'sequester carbon', you want to harvest wood and use it for buildings and furniture because otherwise it lays on the forest floor, rots, and puts CO2 back into the atmosphere.  Actually what you want are peat bogs since just about every other land-based ecosystem (including the Amazon) are basically carbon neutral (which also means their are effectively oxygen neutral).  But this is vastly beyond the intellectual capability of indoctrinated human-hating drones who regurgitate this kind of tripe.

So you are justifying that cutting the trees for our modern and useless furniture which takes years to grow is correct.If the trees die themselves then its the system but when we cut it means it something done for our purpose.

So what?  You get 50 trees where before there was one.  The smaller trees die off as the forest grows.

You probably were conditioned to believe without thinking about it much that only evil humans and their chainsaws and fires ever killed a tree, huh?

It may starts to recreate in weeks but how many years needed for the plant to get grow as a tree,it will take atleast two decades for small trees and few centuries to get into a big tree.

If the forests burnt down, a new one would start forming within days.  Basically, provided that there is water and something resembling soil, all available solar radiation is intercepted by some plant and that process off-gasses oxygen.

"Our House Is on Fire"

It is hard to miss the news reports on the fire in the Amazon rainforest in Brazil. Millions of people are calling for immediate action on social media and, with a limited amount of prior knowledge, there is little surprise that much of what is being reported is inaccurate.

A wide array of celebrities have drawn attention to the problem, mostly through tweets, ranging from superstar sportspeople to famous actors. When asked what Madonna, Christiano Ronaldo, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Emmanuel Macron have in common, you're probably expecting a funny joke. In fact, all of these people have shared pictures about the fires online that were proven to be much older. In the case of the French president, the photograph he posted was taken by a photographer who died in 2003, making it at least 16 years old.

But most people don't care if any of those rare species go extinct because it has virtually no effect on our lives.  Capitalism isn't about conserving the environment, it is about extracting as much as you can to make big profits.

The recent burning of the Amazon might cause a lot of damage to the Amazon, because that is where 20%of the world oxygen is coming from and farming are burning  trees because of farming and the government are not looking into it to prevent it from burning g but I believe with the next step taken by the Brazilian president,is will be resolved soon

And just to add on that, the fact that Amazon is home for a lot of species.
It is a place for animals where they can find food, water and a place to populate their species. If Amazon is destroyed then all those animals will lose their home and probably they are going to die from hunger.

if amazon burns down it's like a big disaster for the earth and its other living things. 20% of the oxygen on earth today comes from Amazon forests. The burning of amazon at this time can not be overcome as a whole, this really makes a concern. I hope this will be resolved quickly.

I don't know bout the oxygen levels but it's definitely a disaster for biodiversity. There could be species that would die before being discovered.

And I'm not talking about this purely from a conservation viewpoint. We could learn a lot from some species that might be discovered, like medicines etc.

I read some articles recently that the whole thing was portrayed per-dramatically and that this year's fires do not deviate significantly from the perennial average (10 years) and that Amazonia produces not 20 but only 6 percent of the earth's oxygen etc.
Of course, it's still a disaster, but not the cataclysm as some try to prove without concrete or true facts.
I don't think that whole Amazon may disappear but it will happen, we will still survive, don't worry
The temperature will probably increase and the sea level will increase, but it will happen anyway and is happening right now.

I find this video quite informative you should watch it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzK3iWAFgI

I'am not saying we should just ignore amazon forest but we need to prevent misinformation to make unnecessary panic.

But we have to save Amazon forest. 20 % means providing oxygen to 1.5 billion population and of earth which is a huge number.

The answer is simple.
As the Amazon forrest is the biggest "Lung" of our planet, if it gets burnt then our planet is going to be inhabitable. There will be less oxygen produced and cosidering the fact that the global population is rising this will have a disastrous impact.

What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest can be attributed to many different factors at local, national, and international levels. The rainforest is seen as a resource for cattle pasture, valuable hardwoods, housing space, farming space (especially for soybeans), road works (such as highways and smaller roads), medicines and human gain. Trees are usually cut down illegally.

A 2004 World Bank paper and a 2009 Greenpeace report found that the cattle sector in the Brazilian Amazon, supported by the international beef and leather trades, was responsible for about 80% of all deforestation in the region,[23][2] or about 14% of the world's total annual deforestation, making it the largest single driver of deforestation in the world.[3] According to a 2006 report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, 70% of formerly forested land in the Amazon, and 91% of land deforested since 1970, is used for livestock pasture.[4][24]

Additional deforestation in the Amazon has resulted from farmers clearing land for small-scale subsistence agriculture[6] or for mechanized cropland. Scientists using NASA satellite data found in 2006 that clearing for mechanized cropland had become a significant force in Brazilian Amazon deforestation. This change in land use may alter the region's climate. Researchers found that in 2004, a peak year of deforestation, more than 20 percent of the Mato Grosso state's forests were converted to cropland.[7] In 2005, soybean prices fell by more than 25 percent and some areas of Mato Grosso showed a decrease in large deforestation events, suggesting that the rise and fall of prices for other crops, beef and timber may also have a significant impact on future land use in the region.[7]

Until 2006, a major driver of forest loss in the Amazon was the cultivation of soy, mainly for export and production of biodiesel and animal feed;[25] as soybean prices have risen, soy farmers pushed northwards into forested areas of the Amazon.[26] However, a private sector agreement referred to as the Soy Moratorium has helped drastically reduce the deforestation linked to soy production in the region. In 2006, a number of major commodity trading companies such as Cargill agreed to not purchase soybeans produced in the Brazilian Amazon in recently deforested areas. Before the moratorium, 30 percent of soy field expansion had occurred through deforestation, contributing to record deforestation rates. After eight years of the moratorium, a 2015 study found that although soy production area had expanded another 1.3 million hectares, only about 1 percent of the new soy expansion had come at the expense of forest. In response to the moratorium, farmers were choosing to plant on already cleared land.[26] The needs of soy farmers have been used to validate some controversial transportation projects that have developed in the Amazon.[11] The first two highways, the Belém-Brasília (1958) and the Cuiaba-Porto Velho (1968), were the only federal highways in the Legal Amazon to be paved and passable year-round before the late 1990s. These two highways are said to be "at the heart of the 'arc of deforestation'", which at present is the focal point area of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon. The Belém-Brasília highway attracted nearly two million settlers in the first twenty years. The success of the Belém-Brasília highway in opening up the forest was reenacted as paved roads continued to be developed, unleashing the irrepressible spread of settlement. The completion of the roads was followed by a wave of resettlement; these settlers had a significant effect on the forest as well.[27]

Research conducted by Leydimere Oliveira, et al. has shown that the more rainforest is logged in the Amazon, the less precipitation reaches the area and so the lower the yield per hectare becomes. Thus for Brazil as a whole, there is no economic gain to be made by logging and selling trees and using the logged land for pastoral purposes.[28]

A September 2016 Amazon Watch report concludes that imports of crude oil by the US are driving rainforest destruction in the Amazon and releasing significant greenhouse gases.[29][30]

The European Union–Mercosur Free Trade Agreement, which would form one of the world's largest free trade areas, has been denounced by environmental activists and indigenous rights campaigners.[31][32] The fear is that the deal could lead to more deforestation of the Amazon rainforest as it expands market access to Brazilian beef.[33]