Electrician claiming can't use 80 amp breaker for multiple outlets

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Quote from: notlist3d on March 22, 2016, 01:13:36 PM

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Please don't argue with an electrician, if you don't have proper information to prove yourself right.
All installations must be done by respecting ANSI or IEC standards.

-Hagss, also an electrician

I already said this above as it does no good. Even when I once got a horrible quote... i took quote and let him go. I was curious if OP went with one he arugued with, it almost sounded like he did.

I'm not sure if I would go with one after a heated argument..... I think going with another would be best thing since cant really take a argument back.

It was not a full blown arguement, you adding insult to injury does not help the situation. Roll Eyes

(not to mention constant repeating of something that has been said)

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Please don't argue with an electrician, if you don't have proper information to prove yourself right.
All installations must be done by respecting ANSI or IEC standards.

-Hagss, also an electrician

I already said this above as it does no good. Even when I once got a horrible quote... i took quote and let him go. I was curious if OP went with one he arugued with, it almost sounded like he did.

I'm not sure if I would go with one after a heated argument..... I think going with another would be best thing since cant really take a argument back.

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Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 22, 2016, 01:46:13 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on March 21, 2016, 02:52:53 AM

Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

80 amps is much power, needs thick wire. Outlets in wall made for less power, thin wire. 80 amp in thin outlet wire make big fire. Best to split in subpanel to send less power through wall to outlets.

Thank you.

We got it figured out, he will be adding a sub panel with a bunch of 20 amp breakers.

I had taken bad advice from someone and only found this guy online, so wasn't sure who knew what.

Did you go with electrician you got in argument with? Not sure that is the best idea.... but wish you best of luck on it.

Was main full on spots? Or wanting to run one big cable and multiple smaller ones? What was reasoning in the end for sub panel.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 21, 2016, 02:52:53 AM

Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

80 amps is much power, needs thick wire. Outlets in wall made for less power, thin wire. 80 amp in thin outlet wire make big fire. Best to split in subpanel to send less power through wall to outlets.

Thank you.

We got it figured out, he will be adding a sub panel with a bunch of 20 amp breakers.

I had taken bad advice from someone and only found this guy online, so wasn't sure who knew what.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 21, 2016, 02:52:53 AM

Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

80 amps is much power, needs thick wire. Outlets in wall made for less power, thin wire. 80 amp in thin outlet wire make big fire. Best to split in subpanel to send less power through wall to outlets.

Hahaha, thanks OgNasty. That made it very very clear.

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Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

80 amps is much power, needs thick wire. Outlets in wall made for less power, thin wire. 80 amp in thin outlet wire make big fire. Best to split in subpanel to send less power through wall to outlets.

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There is no such thing as a standard electrical outlet that will support the wire that MUST be used on an 80-amp circuit, though there might be specialty stuff that can do so - but you can't plug a miner into such specialty outlets.

Subpanal is the SAFE way to split out the capasity of that 80 amp circuit.

I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a NEMA-spec outlet for anything over 50 amps PERIOD (I am very familier with the ones used for older mobile homes, which are no longer acceptable under the NEC for NEW installations but are acceptable in many or most locations for existing mobile home installations and for use with RVs).

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Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

I have a Electrician who claims I can't have multiple outlets to support multiple miners on 80 amps and that I need 15-20 amp breakers for each outlet/miner.

We argued about it for awhile and he basically said he knows best and he is right without any real explanation.

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

He is licensed..

I highly doubt your wiring is up to 80 amp's.... I would guess he checked what gauge wire you had ran in house and based it on that. 80 amp's on a single breaker is a LOT in most houses. If you are in a residential house no one builds 80 amp breakers.

30 amp 240 is a pretty good number and can do multiple lines instead of one big one. But again if your guage wire is not good enough for above 20 amp..... hes saving you from possible electric fire.

You can always get a second opinion after arguing..... i personally would not pick him as your guy. And next time try not to argue or get in a heated match it does no good. I wanted 1 20 or 30 amp 240 watt line ran about 10 feet from breaker..... electrician gave me over a thousand dollar quote for maybe 50-75 dollars in parts. Instead of arguing.... I let him go. I could have called him out on it but what good does it do at the end of the day?

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Quote from: ProfessionalGoogler on March 20, 2016, 03:00:58 PM

I have a Electrician who claims I can't have multiple outlets to support multiple miners on 80 amps and that I need 15-20 amp breakers for each outlet/miner.

We argued about it for awhile and he basically said he knows best and he is right without any real explanation.

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

He is licensed..

Well if you have an 80 amp sub panel

You can add four 20 amp breakers

Or add four 15 amp breakers and one 20 amp breaker.

Now you left out some info which would be is this 80 amp to be all miner and is it a sub panel and is it 120volt or 240 volt.

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its more of the fact of the cable/wire that has be to used for the 80amp breaker. as the amps go up the cable gets thicker. therefore an 80amp breaker wire wouldn't fix in a standard 110/240 plug. you wouldn't be able to split the cables down to make them fit a plug.

your better off following the advice of what he is saying. I run a 20 amp plug/fuse for each miner its a bit overkill as the s7s only run at about 12amps but the extra room lets me plug in fans or switches as needed.

basically you cant do a 1 to many. it has to be a 1 to 1. depending on the miners you might be able to do 1 to 2

1 80amp to many miners on many plugs = no

1 15 amp to 1 plug/miner = yes
or
1 20 amp to 1 plug w/ 2 miners plugged in = yes

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Im guessing it would be a safety issue, but why not give you an explanation? Do you know this electrician? If not find another one Cheesy

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I have a Electrician who claims I can't have multiple outlets to support multiple miners on 80 amps and that I need 15-20 amp breakers for each outlet/miner.

We argued about it for awhile and he basically said he knows best and he is right without any real explanation.

Could anyone explain this to an idiot like me?

He is licensed..

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