Topic: Elon musk said in 2040 that he will create over 10 million robots (Read 487 times)

Now Elon is saying that the rise of the machines will happen by 2030.


Elon Musk Predicts The Rise Of The Machines By 2030

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https://activistpost.com/2024/12/elon-musk-predicts-the-rise-of-the-machines-by-2030.html
In 2018, several other experts on artificial intelligence and technology said that we are approaching that singularity point; however, they disagreed on the timing. Musk's prediction aligns fairly closely with previously mentioned timelines.

Singularity is the point in time when humans can create an artificial intelligence machine that is smarter. Ray Kurzweil, Google's chief of engineering, says that the singularity will happen in 2045.  Louis Rosenberg claims that we are actually closer than that and that the day will be arriving sometime in 2030. MIT's Patrick Winston would have you believe that it will likely be a little closer to Kurzweil's prediction, though he puts the date at 2040, specifically. –SHTFPlan

Father Of Artificial Intelligence: 'Singularity Is Less Than 30 Years Away'

Back in 2018, Jürgen Schmidhuber, who is the Co-Founder and Chief Scientist at AI company NNAISENSE, the Director of the Swiss AI lab IDSIA, and heralded by some as the "father of artificial intelligence" is confident that the singularity "is just 30 years away. If the trend doesn't break, and there will be rather cheap computational devices that have as many connections as your brain but are much faster," he said. "There is no doubt in my mind that AIs are going to become super smart," Schmidhuber says.

Musk, who is the Tesla and SpaceX CEO, and owner of X, formerly Twitter, made the prediction shortly after his AI company, xAI, officially launched its first image generation model, Aurora, earlier this month, according to a report by RT.

Aurora, an updated version of the first image-generation model that xAI introduced in October, allows users to create photorealistic visuals. Compared to other AI models, Aurora has fewer restrictions and can accurately generate images at almost any prompt, including depictions of famous personalities and copyrighted characters.

"It is increasingly likely that AI will superset the intelligence of any single human by the end of 2025 and maybe all humans by 2027/2028," Musk wrote on Monday, in a post on his social media platform X. According to him, the probability that AI will exceed the intelligence of all humans combined by 2030 "is ~100%."
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I wonder how big of a staff Musk will need to make all these robots, and if it will be supported by taxation. Can't really be any worse than the FED.


Elon Musk: "The Fed Is Absurdly Overstaffed"

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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/elon-musk-fed-absurdly-overstaffed
"The Fed is absurdly overstaffed," Musk wrote on X early Monday morning, responding to Chamath Palihapitiya's post about the Fed's latest interest rate decision (read here).

A recent note from the Mises Institute pointed out that about 23,000 people work at the Federal Reserve Board in Washington and 12 regional reserve banks across the US.

"But there's more to it than that. The financial statements reveal that the Board of Governors expenses and currency costs were $2 billion. If this constitutes salaries, then total salaries and pension costs at the Fed become closer to $7 billion. Dividing this figure by 23,000 people equals around $304,000 per employee," Mises said.

Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have been tasked with streamlining federal operations through the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). The department aims to create a leaner, more efficient government, including $2 trillion in spending cuts. The wish list of potential efficiencies continues to grow - with a 'really bold plan for day one ' ...

Days before the presidential election, Ron Paul asked on X if he could join DOGE in Trump's second term. Musk responded: "Would be great to have Ron Paul as part of the Department of Government Efficiency!"

Last week, Ron Paul wrote on X, "We should wean ourselves off The Fed, like we weaned ourselves off the mainstream media." Musk responded: "Yes!! Ron Paul ftw."

Let's not forget about 400 PhD economists at the Fed failed to forecast the inflationary storm triggered by the rapid expansion of the money supply by trillions—only for them to dismiss it as "transitory." Such a massive misreading underscores the urgent need for restructuring. Errors of this magnitude are unacceptable.

With a workforce of 23,000, the Fed still manages to lose money—upwards of $200 billion.
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the process of everyone becoming robots is coming, we are arriving at a society full of automations and where all we have to do is become maintainers of the latter in order to save ourselves in this society that forces us to have everything automatic and on time at any time

Personally, I wish that there were robots to do everything for me. I could sit back and collect welfare... or travel the world if I wanted... or even work if I wanted. I'd love it.

That is the point now , because it will get to a point where companies will prefer robots than human ,human will be jealous of robots their by fight and making sure they reduce robots,and when robots notice all human will be in trouble,fight will start

Well it may be hard on him as you think but think of what happened in Amazon company Amazon has sack all his workers and bought robots to replace them, people parents where crying betterly ,we should all pray that his money doesn't get to the extent where he can create all human effort as he said.

Yes. Wouldn't it be interesting to see a world of robots working for robots only. People would have to go out and create methods to live, outside of the robots. Maybe some worn or broken robot parts could be retrieved from the junkyards and used by people.

I call it crazy idea cuz replacing humans wit robot it completely make humans less of importance. Having Robots doing all wat human does, den wat will be of humans, companies we rather go for robots Dan humans, cuz robots work for free, faster and more efficient. At dis point I drop a question wat I'll humans do to earn dere daily bread?

Most of them aren't satellites. They are high-flying balloons. Watch the video.

you do realize the bots will obey the manufacturers programming right?

and humans have nothing to do with it, as for example an AI can now program robots on its own.

Robots are programmed by humans and acts exactly as they are commanded so i don't see it as problematic if Elon Musk decides to create 40 million robots, just that it will reduce human jobs and render a lot of people jobless but yet human efforts cannot be useless because human experience will still be needed at some point even though their payment may be reduced since they are combining ideas with robots. Robots cannot disobey humans instructions because if they do, humans will still show them superiority and possibly disable their functions. However, this is just like a kind of wake up call for everyone to strive for self employment and not always depend on being employed before they can earn.

AI systems are only built to emulate human emotion, not have human emotion, so building a robot to have human characteristics is not as bad as it seems. What should be avoided is building robots that actually have human emotion rather than emulating human emotions. If you build something that 1) has thoughts and b) has feelings and c) reproduces then one expects that such a being is literally alive in a way where person-hood rights come into concern.

I agree that in 2040 Musk will be creating 10 million robots annually... its a realistic prediction much unlike many of Musk's predictions. 2027 will be a year in which robots will begin to be seen to be doing basic common chores, though I think 2026 will be the year in which they become sold with price and features having appeal to the general public. Next year robots may be available but not likely at a mix of price, quantities, and features that meets popular demand.

It cannot be denied that emotions are a special element of human beings, but it must also be admitted that emotions are also the cause of unnecessary problems and incidents. Especially at work, ignoring emotions will bring efficiency to work.

Without emotions, the human world would be dull but if we could remove emotions from work, productivity, quality and even fairness would improve.

Why don't you think they are planning to completely eliminate humans and just use robots to do the work because as you said: robots will work more efficiently than humans and bring better productivity. That is what any business wants.

We should not be afraid, we are not going to be replaced by robots and they do not have blood running their veins so we should worry less about the 10 million robots. They will have their duties and the labour force is still very much in need of workers who will fill in workplaces too. Whether at the level of a country or the international civil servants, governments will require people with emotions to occupy positions of different levels.

One thing I know surely is that robots will work more efficiently than the people and they may also work more effortlessly and will require less of time to rest. What I'm still unable to fathom is the occupational safety of workers who will have to work hand in hand with these robots. In the event that these machines face system error, they may not be able to control themselves and could pose a potential threat to other workers.

In the future, all those shitlurmck satellites will turn into space debris that will fly through space and rip to shreds anything that we send up there except for ICBMs which are only there for a short time.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Musk's ideas about robots might be simply there for him to make money somehow. After all, he said that he was placing all those Starlink satellites up there. But what if it is a hoax, sort of?


NASA _ SpaceX _ Starlink Satellites Are Actually Satelloons _ Dr. Lee Merritt & FE Music Guru

humans effort cant be useless even with the 10 million robot that he plans to create because they can never think and function efficiently like we humans do. the most sophisticated robot is still incapacitated in so many areas when compared to human most especially as it relates to execution of task that involves indebt brain work. the robot can only function as efficient as they are being programmed to be and above that, human intelligence will always win over it.

these robots are going to majorly affect workers in field that doesn't require serious brain work and unfortunately they occupy the majority of the workforce. with all the potential advantages that will come with it, the disadvantages is way more than the benefit. when you are combating with AI in the digital space and will have to deal with robots at the physical working environment, slowly but certainly, humans usefulness will start to reduce to nothing and that is a bad thing for humans existence not just in the united state but across the worlds.

Why would there be eventually need to be more than one robot?   A robot mind can do everything at once, much like your mind can control more than one limb at a time.


Molecular robotics will fix issues on the fly, much like our body.   Again, when you break a finger, do you go to the 'person' doctor and get a new one?

Don't you even realize that robots might want to talk to each other cryptographically, especially with numbers, so that they can conquer people more easily?

You should only say this unless you have studied the math on my YouTube and cryptocurrency sites and have concluded that they are not useful for robotics. Have you even seen Musk's Tesla bots? It is a total scam. But most people worship Elon because they love being scammed and looking like morons.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Getting banned as a badge of honor is truly a noble goal. Sign up all over the place so that you can get more badges of honor. Lol.

Meanwhile, Musk will continue to get other kinds of badges of honor, like the ones he will get for making robots... without the math on your Youtube site, btw.

I am so glad that I am fucking banned from Twitter. It is truly a badge of honor. Twitter is a cesspool of stupid ass morons who worship Elon and fall into scams and reject truth.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

P.S. I now know why in the past people got hanged for idolatry. Idolators are super fucking annoying. Elon Musk worshippers are these annoying idolators. We seriously need to consider bringing back capital punishment for idolatry.

If it's work you want to do, simply move 10 bags of sand back and forth 10 times in a day. You don't even have to move them far... only 10 feet or so. Other people would love to travel the world.

I know. World travel can get boring after a few years of it. But I'm sure somebody could figure out something new to do.

In a perfect world, there wouldn't need to be any government. But since the world isn't perfect, the best we are seeing is the Constitution Republic of the USA, with the US government being a Democracy.

 guess there are already more than 10 million robots, I mean the idea that a robot has to look somewhat like a humanoid is not true, a robot can be anything like for example the many millions of robots that assemble cars, parts or control factories, etc.

See, creating robots is not such a big thing, creating robots that can actually have a high degree of independence is still quite a difficult task, so this is about knowing what robots does he speak about.


Careful there, Elon does not say who owns the robots and he is no communist.

Ironically, you are talking about utopian communism there. Because if people have enough money, free time or wealth for them to do whatever they want at the expense of robots, then that could be kind of translated to a classless society, dont you think?
That is the difference between someone how owns the means of production and someone who is forced to sell their workforce? the average worker has limited schedule to do whatever they want and they cannot travel wherever they want, that is reserved for those who are the owners of the factory or the line of production.
Since you are pretty much into whatever Trump says about socialism and communism, I can only assume that utopia would be a nightmare to you, because you would be at the same level of Trump and Elon Musk, meaning you cannot continue to admire them from the bottom.

Robots and intelligent machines are going to be a reality, that is for sure, but they wont be used to decrease the gap of social inequality in the world, that would be going directly against the interest of those who program and manufacture the robots and the artificial intelligence in the first place.

If labor becomes worthless, then machines become more valuable and workers are displaced. 

That's not a joke. With a sufficient amount of programming, robots could go to the 'robot doctor' and get fitted with replacement parts for broken or worn ones. While a robot brain will never experience emotion, or be able to produce art, they can be programmed to look like they are doing these things.

The question is, will some company ever make a 'city' of robots only? Why do this? Just to see if it is possible. Your guess is as good as mine as to what a city of robots would be doing, especially if they weren't doing it for people.

The thing that might happen is, some psychopath might try to take over the world using highly programmed robots. Musk probably isn't like this, but who will be running his things when he is dead and gone? Robots?

Hahaha, I get the joke about self-sufficient robots that can rebuild, reprogram themselves, and do all the jobs, probably crediting human beings in the process. That makes sense to me. Elon Musk's plans to build ten million robots by 2030 don't bother me, but I know these robots can't be compared to human beings.

The fact that robots can't have a will of their own is where his technology flops. If you can't build a robot to make decisions on its own, then there's nothing a human being can build that can be compared to a human being. For instance, imagine changing your travel plans at the last minute – robots can't do that.

Robots are meant to assist human beings in the workplace. A fully automated company with no human interaction doesn't make sense. What's the point of products if not for human beings to buy and use? I'm not worried about robots taking over human beings. Instead, human beings will use robots to be more efficient in their workplace.

As the saying goes, "You shouldn't be scared of AI taking over your job, but be scared of that person who can control AI." We will be able to control these AIs. Let's just watch what Elon Musk builds and hope he doesn't hurt humanity in the process.

If you drive an average car, you are driving something that was partly robot made. Those robots are not humanoid, however.

Robots are helpers for people. They will never take over all the jobs, because people without a job don't make money to buy products. And companies who can't sell their products shut down... and the robots right along with them.

Ideally, robots should take over all the jobs, people should go on welfare for 1,000,000x what welfare recipients get now. Then people could be free to do anything that they want. If they wanted to feel useful, they could make jobs for themselves. Otherwise they could travel the world, all at the expense of the robots... that would work for free, and even rebuild themselves when they broke down.

I wouldn’t doubt Elon, he seems to achieve many of the things he says he will. He’s an incredible mind, one of the most intelligent human beings that ever lived. I don’t think he makes many claims that are unachievable. Ten million might seem like a lot but 2040 is 15 years ago & AI is improving all the time. These robots are incredible, I would probably buy one in the future.

Coming from Elon Musk, it's a dangerous goal he has. This man is attempting to lead the world towards a global centralization around his image. He is selling himself as the Messiah, the savior who is going to solve everyone's problems through technology. But at which cost?

Of course it's great to think on the accessibility robots would bring to us humans. They would do the hardwork, and we would just enjoy the fruits of their labor. However, it's not what life is about. What is the purpose of having a lazy life where AI does all the cognitive and physical tasks you should be doing?

Moreover, such robots aren't meant only to help, but also to destroy, depending how they were programmed. If you think from this point of view, you will see Musk is announcing he is going to build a private army...

Are people paying you to worship Elon? No? You are all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Anything biological can be upgraded to silicon.  If Tony Stark had a turtle, you can bet it's shell would be impenetrable. 

Robots will never think like humans - you are correct.   Humans can concentrate on one thing at a time, while a single robot can replace an entire call center.

Robots can never think like human beings. They cannot develop human feelings and be creative or innovative. They will always perform specific tasks based on how they have been programmed. Humans can never be useless because even these robots need people to operate, maintain, and even repair them. Robots will always malfunction because they are not perfect, but the producer will keep improving them until their errors become minimal. Elon Musk wants to achieve so many things, I like his desperation, but it is getting out of hand.       

Those are contradictions which do not have solutions, so Trump does not even bother to answer questions related to them. Before election day he was asked by a mexican worker about how he was going to plan to replace the fruit collectors (who are mostly illegal immigrants) if they plan to deport all of them back to their home countries. He did not answer the question, he started to talk non-sense and unrelated stuff.
In the end, he does not care about the jobs of those who might get replaced by robots, he is in for billionaires to continue to expand their fortunes, though, one must admit that the plan of an initial massive deportation and replacement by robots seem to be along pretty well and the beginning, but there are not enough people to deport from the United States compared to the number of Units Elon Musk wants to have walking around and working in factories and on the fields.

Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to technological advancements, infact the only thing that will beat my imagination is if a machine can raise the dead, I know that it's impossible. I've seen something similar to what you're saying in one documentary about robots, how it'll do all sorts of jobs for humans, including house chores. I think that when it gets to that age where robots will be doing everything for us, it'll degenerate to a stage where humans will become so lazy and ineffective, I don't think that it'll be in the best interest of human beings.

Computers and every other machineries including robots are supposed to make our jobs easier and more effective, not doing what we're supposed to do for ourselves naturally. Who's to say that some evil geniuses wouldn't alter their programings and they'll become menaces to human beings, we should be careful about what we wish for.

Robots will never go against programming - they'll just be reprogrammed.

How is Trump going to put everyone to work with great wages if eight figures of super efficient workers are added to the economy each year?  Will ge deport 15M illegals a year?

Let's look in to this,if Elon musk creates this robots,not even to create robots he said he will create robots that will hhave all human characteristics so to fixed them in all area of human effort.
That's means human effort will be useless, because their's nothing u can do that robots can do
And a time will come when all this robots will start disobeying their normal instructions.