Topic: Enjoy being a newbie (Read 875 times)

Like the sayings goes, " a closed mouth is a closed destiny"  people tend to keep quiet over things that they could be able to ask questions about. They just ignore and  keep silent when there is avenue for them to ask. Although there are people like that but not to that extent of being too quiet to not ask questions that would be of great help and benefit to them.

I know of people that were once the quiet type that never talks too much but all of a sudden, I noticed they became talkers and I enquired about the sudden changes and they told me, " if you want to survive, you must open and shine your eyes, also talk our boldly to make sure you are heard" that was were I understood that their narrative changed. I was happy about it because they were too silent to stay with. In all, if you must survive then you will need to be vocal.

I agree because we can often see newbies being extra emotional and sensitive like they are children who expect a lot of care from us and as soon as one of us scolds them a little bit about a mistake, they start crying as to why they were scolded even if they have made a mistake, we should have made them understand with love. Such people need to understand that sometimes it becomes necessary for elders to do that to make the children understand that a certain thing shouldn't be done again because if it's done again, they will be scolded or beaten for it.

Not every single member of this forum may start showing so much love and affection towards newbies that they should never use a single harsh word towards them even if they are making mistakes again and again, so newbies need to understand that they need to learn and improve if they don't want to face such things. If you are a newbie, you stay in the forum for as long as 2 years, and you still remain a newbie while having none of your concepts clear about anything, you can't expect members to entertain basic questions from you because you have had enough time to learn everything.

That doesn't happen all the time. I know some users might be a bit harsh when they see a newbie making a mistake about something which is very obvious or they could easily know about it with a simple search, but most people would still help a newbie even if they are asking repetitive questions.

One more thing, newbies will have to learn to take negative criticism because that will eventually make them stronger. Don't take criticism personally and try to learn from it and you will see yourself growing in the long run.

For now I don't think newbies have anything to enjoy. why I said that is because, as a newbie, I mean original newbie. Not by name, you have to undergo a lot of thrash. a lot of confrontation and harsh response from the so called experts. All of these things happen to you because definitely you must make some mistakes in the forum. And after making mistakes, not all of us have the same mind to tolerate it from people like me that are still in the zero level. Some of them might just utter very detrimental and derogatory statement to the extent that if Care is not taking, the whole of your days can be spoiled because of it.
All of these happened because of you still being in a rank of newbie. But no problem, if we take heart and bear it, there shall be light at the end of the tunnel.

Exactly, not all of us are actually real newbies as seen on the profile. But you can only say what you see and leave what is hidden which is unknown. And again, as you said that if you don't ask you will not be answered, that is a very true talk. Because if you don't talk and say what is in your mind nobody will know what is bothering you. And even if there is someone that is trying to help you, the person will be thinking that you are ok and nothing is wrong with you. But if you ask or complain, then, those that are willing to help will definitely do the necessary. If you ask about what you don't know, next time somebody will come to you and ask you too. And if you are being given the correct answer, then, from that day you have become expert in that aspect.

The bad thing is that you have always the hope to grow and become Legendary or whatever, but it is impossible to go back in time and feel the same sensations you felt when you were a newbie. That's why I agree with the title of this thread: many people focus in growing and don't enjoy the great experience of being a new member.

Not my case fortunately, but growth usually means disappointment and quarrels with other members who don't share your same opinions, or are rude because you simply lack the knowledge they think is the bare minimum to participate in certain topics.

On the other hand, being new and anonymous gives you more freedom to say whatever you think, even if you are wrong and no matter what others answer, because they will forget about you very soon. But when you are known you have to be more cautious, because everything you say could be used against you. And changing your mind is also more difficult, because you have been building and sharing a thread of thought and it would seem incoherent if you one day started saying the contrary of what you had always thought. I believe that rectifying is wise, and I am one of those that if I make a mistake and rectify I don't care much what others say, but I sense that for many, the fear of being incoherent is a burden.

In as much as we advocate that newbies should enjoy their status, also try to rank up. There's another level of enjoyment you will witness immediately you become an established member of this forum. By then your opinion will be held high especially if you are also reputable.

Exactly what I meant above. Anywhere you find yourself, you should endeavour to grow. Growth is another level of enjoyment. Especially when you look back and remember where you started.

I'm also enjoying being a newbie.  Being new to this forum I am very happy and very excited.  I am more curious about it.  Always learning new things.  Everything here is very helpful.

You are absolutely correct mate. It marvels me when newbie creat post anyhow and to an extent of advising people in the forum I keep asking myself who are they actually advising the snr men or their fellow newbie because they don't specify or direct it. though some of them can or may have an idea on Bitcoin or crypto before joining the forum but that doesn't mean they should be advising people in this forum. The best way to improve or grow is to bring down oneself, learn etc and don't try to showcase yourself.

sharing same experience, is not am easy thing being a newbie, just roaming about the forum trying to understand all that is going on  learning from threads and reply to questions by forum members, a newbie is more like a baby expected to grow in to adult.

I appreciate your opinion, and believe me, your opinion is totally realistic. I understand from your angle of reasoning, which is;
Many people are skeptical of sending merits to newbies, they might believe it is an alt account or a part of account farm as you said. But also when the body language of the said newbie is positive, there are good chances of rapid growth.

What I meant by newbie recieving merits with little efforts is that, a newbie discuss something about LN stands a chance of being merited than me discussing same topic. Every newbie account is invariably regarded as a novice account, even if someone behind it is knowledgeable.[/list]

That's why there are many tutorials out there and it's helpful to a newbie to understand that thing and those users who are actually good in crypto even though they are newbie in the forum then they can share thier knowledge to us. But a real newbies which is no knowledge about crypto then we can say that they are need help  by the older member but not totally everytime they need help. But newbies itself must learn by using search button.

The forum is aimed at everyone. Here any user can communicate, receive and share knowledge, regardless of his rank and time spent on the forum. Here, everyone's word has weight if it is said in essence and to the point.

Why are you not satisfied with the tactic of expressing your thoughts the way you think without the need to please high ranks?

That is, you are embarrassed to seem like newbies when you are newbies? What nonsense?

This is highly commendable.

Switch to other threads that can help you as a beginner. What problems?

There are other reasons for plagiarism. One of which is a banal lack of knowledge of the forum rules. And another reason is laziness and inability to generate your own content.


And I would advise beginners to learn to use the search on the forum, so as not to create repeating topics with the same questions over and over again.

Is there anyone who will even love to remain being a newbie, what's the joy in remaining to be a newbie when you have a long way to go and you're also being active on the forum, newbie is the shortest rank and i don't see any pleasure in staying here for so long, if you really know what you're doing, it's not about us learning or listening, it's about paying attention to what we were being told and taking further and necessary actions for their best results.

Of a truth newbies are very much  delicate when it comes to their ranking here but not all newbies are newbie as we think. Most of them are well groomed in the field but for the fact that they are being tagged a newbie by the position of their accounts, that is they are just new by virtue of their account position on the platform but are knowledgeable enough about the system much more than some high rank. Little wonder some newbie accounts here are tagged as a reason of their  performance based on the way they operate on the platform.

Nevertheless, it is good to ask questions because only those who ask questions are liable to get answers to their questions and that gives them more knowledge and insight about what they had asked about but if one decides to go mute and feel they know it all, they would always be a shadow of themselves roaming around and learning through the hard way which likely would cost them time and delay.

Actually, you don't need to stay as newbie to enjoy the forum and if you stay for too long then people might assume that you are dumb to learn things that are too basic. Anyway, not only newbie come here to learn, its for everyone irrespective of the profile ranks and one who got the knowledge will guide you in the right way but never forget this is just a forum and don't expect everything shared here to be a fact especially a random user.

This is what we often encounter in this forum, many beginners push themselves too hard to create topics even though the topic has already been created by someone else, so it gives the impression that they are hunting for merit. This can be seen because they create a topic without doing a cross check first, so it's not just spam happens but also many beginners end up being plagiarized. In fact, beginners should have confidence in the process of increasing their account, because by discussing frequently they will increase their knowledge so that when they make posts it will produce quality, not quantity.

If beginners have patience and follow the process, the results they will get will definitely be much better, in essence nothing is instant.

I think I disagree with this as I believe the opposite is the reality. Newbies are easily viewed from the angle of merit farming even when their intention might just be to contribute to discussion. When they put so much efforts to impress, they might likely be seen as desperate. I have not done a large sample size but doing a little check on the topics that receive merits, you will those from newbies are very small compared to those of older members. This is expected anyways because the quality of the post of the newbies will definitely be lower than those of the experienced guys.
Note: my comment is entirely my opinion, I can be wrong.

This is expected because the forum itself is still strange to them hence they need to put more efforts. Besides, the older guys were also newbies at some point and had gone through the same process. Now they are better informed and already know how to get any information they want.

The truth is Forum is difficult for people who found themselves here without a guardian to give them proper orientation about the forum, rules and everything that has to do with the forum entirely. Most of the newbies are talented and have little idea about cryptocurrency, they also know how to write quality posts and can read to comprehend as well but the problem is no matter how brilliant you are, if you are in a new environment that you have little or no knowledge about, you might feel that strange attitude of confusion and not knowing where to start from. It's normal to have this feeling and you might get over it as time goes on.

Likewise, it's worthy of noting that some newbies are so dumb and they are not in any way ready to learn with the reluctant attitude they exhibit sometime. It's not strange seeing newbies teaching old members about how to succeed in the forum as if it's a career while they are suppose to calm and learn first. I know the forum ain't so easy to navigate but if they can exercise patience and dedicate time for it, then they might find it the as the most amazing place to be.

No matter how weird this might sound, there are alot of things that newbies enjoy which established members may never enjoy.

• A newbie can quote wrongly and can only be corrected.
• A newbie with little efforts will earn merits easily than an established member 
• A newbie has more chances of conducting research as the course of learning

Newbies have alot of freedom to tour and enjoy the forum except the freedom to copy and paste other people's work.

That's a common misconception that newbies have created about themselves while there is no reality in that. As long as a newbie is participating in discussions while truly contributing something in the discussion and is writing constructive posts, they will get the same attention as any other rank members get, but if their participation is writing one liners and posts that make no sense or contribute to the discussion, they are meant to be ignored in that case.

Since most people consider having a lot of Merits being a symbol of constructiveness, you can find a lot of newbies having more Merits than they require to become a Member and that shows that it is not about your rank but it's about how you carry yourself in the forum that determines whether you will get the recognition you deserve or not.

Being Newbie?

Being newbie is kind of an exam like life in this industry.You must work more.You must keep educate yourself on this way because you're on level 0 even you are in mines points but there is always hope for being and better life don't forget it.You must believe yourself more than everyone.There will be always some bad guys to pull you down.A newbie's duty is never giving up.I'm a newbie too. I was newbie on many things that I'm expert now.
These are my motivation sentences and I wanted to share these with you.

Enjoy while reading

 

Are you sure you're a newbie?😅
You're welcome, hope you're ready to follow the rules of this Forum because if you don't, is going to be hard for you to blend in and it might look like you're not welcome in the Forum. The information you have to share can't be taken to account, so just take this Forum serious as you take your account.

OP you have written beautifully well. Most newbies who are genuinely newbies do lack forum confidence. They are eager to leave the newbie rank and so instead of enjoying the ride they will start creating threads advice other newbies. Their topics will be more of quantity and not quality. They will not do their research properly or even cross-check on the forum if that topic has been discussed already. They just go ahead to duplicate the topic and spam the forum. However, I have seen exceptional newbies who are patient and follow their growth on the forum slowly which pays off in the end.

Looking at the way people attack newbies on the forum I don't blame people that try to look more knowledgeable than they're by stealing people's contents to present it as theirs but I'm not encouraging this act though just saying we're putting too much pressure on newbies. Aren't the punishment too harsh and encouraging creating of alts accounts by banned users. We have to let loose a little bit, Your points are perfect and anybody's that follows it will get a happy ending. Newbies should focus on learning first before thinking about earning from their time been spent here but from the beginning majority of people's been introduced here were been told that they can make money and that's why they're always money minded and not get what the forum is about.


If newbies were writing on threads that they understand then we won't be having problem with the nuisance they create on the forum from their spamming but they don't. They actually are guilty of writing more on thread that they don't understand which leads to spam that older users are complaining about. Newbie should enjoy been a newbie and don't put too much pressure on themselves to write very quality. They can write the best way they can but not spam the forum and engage on topic they have understanding on. With time they'll understand the forum properly and can participate on more quality discussion. One way to know a genuine newbie is the way he engage the forum as they don't always start by writing well structured and quality information but just general knowledge.

Well accepted because a newbie focus should be reading well gradually, listening, observing and absorbing before creating out what he or she has learnt to enable him or her to achieve his or goals in accordance.

What I notice in the forum is that newbies do not like to make post in a place that is not well understood by them and sometimes when newbies make a post in the thread that well understood the concept it lead them to write off topic, sometimes what contribute for all this kind of things that in newbies is when they are interested to earn merit so that they can rank up for new positions, anyone that is newbies that the account is not alt account always have off topic or it will create a thread and it will get locked from my understanding, the challenges newbies face in the forum is all this kind of things, so I believe that all this are what leads newbies to problems, secondly when newbies is over interested for making a quality post to rank up it leads them to plagiarism.

Sometimes, the reverse is the case... There's actually alot to be done to keep your fine posting habits - they could all be looking out to your betterment with time...

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you seee, I'm so fucking sick of reading shitty posts in here that sometimes, I'd already have an answer for an overemphasized point without even reading the content.... That's how motivated these merit tyrannies have been overtime..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I agree with you. It all depends on the mindset of each person who joins this forum. If they join this forum just because they want to get BTC or income then they will be discouraged and of course they will not develop because their goal is wrong then their expectations will also be difficult to achieve. That's why it's not uncommon to see lots of beginners popping up but they only stick around for a while because they will easily give up.

But on the other hand, if the aim of joining here is to broaden your horizons, seek knowledge and learn about crypto in more depth, then we will get what we want. Naturally, we will get merit and the account will continue to grow. Looking for information, and liking to discuss, our mindset will change too, of course our posts will also be of higher quality and less chaotic.

I'm newbie, I hope I'm welcome here and I'm ready to learn about the industry and share information here in forum.

Is best to get your account yourself and build it on your own, sometimes I say is just lack of patience and desperation that why the buying of account come to play.
These days I don't really see that local board merit source engaging in helping newbies that much, is like the merit source in the local board don't really have enough merit to help newbies and is a bit difficult to identify the real newbies because these days old members do open a new account and act like newbies.

Most of the people have this idea in the forum that how they want to get knowledge means initially that the main aim of these people is knowledge. But with the passage of time, the interest of these people also ends. To get more knowledge and slowly see the members, more interest is created in money, and we try to find out how to get selected with a good signature and more. Get more weekly payments. And even if it is seen, it is human nature to earn more money, which means he wants me to earn more money to meet his needs.

My opinion is also based on your opinion that, foremost, we should focus on knowledge because the real purpose of this forum is to gather knowledge through discussion among members, and yes, of course, signatures should join after that, but the first priority is knowledge. Give to the knowledge of why it can show you the secret that no one else can give.

So imagine learning BitcoinTalk as your knowledge base, and then you can use that knowledge to earn money. That is, through a signature. Because as much as money can give you knowledge, nothing else can.

Some people will never outgrow their newbie phase, they will either keep posting as newbies or will give up and leave this forum. Not everyone is capable of earning merits as it requires demonstrating Bitcoin knowledge and we all know from our schools that some people just fail no matter what.


Signature campaigns are a reliable source of income and for people from poor countries that is good enough, while advanced opportunities require some investment, set of skills, risk and so on.

To be honest with you newbies don't care to read the rules before posting or doing anything concerning the Forum, to some is like a waste of time to do so, they'll be like "hey, what's the need to go through all of these rules when I know how to post or create topics"?
They make use of what they feel they know and sometimes they don't know when they start going against the rules. It really doesn't help at all rather it kills their ability to do better and some they feel they know it all. It even better to lie low and acquire more knowledge on things you feel you know especially trading and other crypto related things.

I like to take it that you don't like be corrected or see correction as an insult or disrespect because everyone in this particular forum was once a newbie like you and have been here, if am not mistaking this is one of the most influential and creative crypto community that value every of its member as they understand the value and important of have more members here in the community.

The forum is not against newbie, I will give you that from experience as I know this from my own journey here, if nothing then I have been even encourage more during my short stay here. Believe me I was someone who had hate on anything called crypto and especially Bitcoin but this thought was cleared upon my activeness here as I was properly guided to understanding the basic of the importance of Bitcoin and crypto in general.

Moving faster as a beginner will be an advantage for them, but when they move too much and without control, as you said they will only make blunders and make the higher ranking people laugh.
There are a lot of such beginners, but some beginners also have their qualities, they can even surpass high ranks with good basic knowledge. It's best, regardless of rank, knowledge is important, reading from various sources and starting to learn how to think critically and of course participate in discussions well.

Most of the times, these newbies come here and create threads that ask questions that should enlighten them more about the forum and crypto but you find that some don't bother to read! Its as of that thread that they created was for creation purpose alone and as the Op noticed that some create threads and don't follow the discussion in it and this is true because most of them don't really have much to contribute and even when others have helpfully supplied answers there's little to no urge to read further so they can contribute too, simply because probably Mr A posted and his work was merited and theirs wasn't, so it kind of dampens their desire to ask.

Where I come from, there's the saying that someone who asks questions, hardly misses his way but I feel some newbies are afraid to do so because they feel what they want to ask has been treated and prefer instead to not ask so they can be cleared. The essence of coming into the forum, aside from sig campaigns, is to learn about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, how to make good investments and so on but that purpose gets defeated if you choose to treat every potential knowledge given here lightly or turn tail and run once you get "attacked" by higher ranking members.

Newbie is a process where we are truly a beginner in this forum, and indeed why people better buy an account because they feel that being a newbie is difficult, and as usual what they say in their contribution is always in doubt that makes them feel not feeling good to be a newbie.

But for those of us who go through newbie times it is very cool, because indeed the newbie phases are quite difficult for me before the merit system is here, is it now that after there is a merit system it is quite difficult for a newbie, but there is no need to worry that it is now now Many local merit sources can help newbies build their accounts and rise.

That topic also helped me a lot.

At first I wasn't careful enough to pay attention to all the forum rules, sometimes as a beginner I was too lazy to read and understand them. but as time goes by little by little I try to improve it.
I remember my seniors reminding me that what I was doing as a beginner was not good.
Over time I realized that what the seniors said was also good, but at that time I prioritized my ego, even though it was very detrimental to me.
[That's my wrong story]😁

Yes, at first I thought backwards like that, but as time went by, I realized that it was true that Knowledge is more valuable than income alone.

What I have also noticed about being a newbie in this forum and not understanding about coding is the search part. Many newbies don’t know how to search the forum to see for themselves if there’s a thread created about a question they are about to ask. In their willingness to know the answer to their question and inability to use the forum search engine well, they rush into asking those questions. Newbies like this shouldn’t be criticised, it is a gradual process and they will learn with time. The humble and more inquisitive ones are always the ones that enjoy the newbie days more.

there are some members who don't care about their ranking in this forum but they get a lot of merit so they move up the rankings without pressure, I really salute them. for newbie, if your goal in creating an account on this forum is only to get Bitcoin, then you have to throw away that expectation immediately because it's not that easy to get it if your account is still a newbie. just look at what members who can't wait to get ranked are doing, the quality of their posts is really messed up, they're just making their account's reputation bad.

Lovesmafamilis discovered this long ago, in her words she says "They are newbies who pretend to be more intelligent than they are"
This is not good for any newbie, whether in the short or long run

The plagerism aspect could also be because of what is said above. But for newbie dumping their thread, it is something common among newbies including myself when I was a newbie. When conversations spans upto 5 pages, a genuine newbie who doesn't know how to quote will find it difficult to involve in the conversation.

This will either drag unnecessary eyes to the newbie or send them to ignore lists.

Where do you have so much confidence in your conclusions? Look at your registration date and also look at mine. How are you different from me? Could it be that you are misusing the forum? Have you seen the mark on your trust? Do you still consider yourself a beginner? And of course, the conclusion that older members will be unfair to newbies is completely wrong if you genuinely communicate with people on the forum without using multiple accounts, plagiarism, or anything else that the forum frowns on. I was hoping you could show me a newbie who was insulted here for his interest in Bitcoin.

If a user is not too agitated with how he will rank up in the forum, he won't be bothered by the time of being here.
Because reading thread after thread will be very helpful for a crypto user to learn a lot of things.
So ranking up is just a bonus. Also, it may be hard these days to rank up because of the merit system, but if you enjoy being a member here,
the time spent in this forum may be very useful for you because you will get pointers and insights that are not available in other sites.

His opinion may not define his future in the forum, he's actually responding to what he has received in the forum. Yes, it's true, but isn't it enjoyable on the long run? When you look back and remember those days of criticisms from high ranked members you'd laugh about it. The forum is not against such criticism, members can say anything as long as it tallies with the aim of the thread. I'm beginning to see less of those responses. don't know if it's only newbies that get to see them in the forum. Yet saying that knowledge sharing is less, phonakAG, is a wrong statement. It's impossible to see an opinion that gets more than two critic response from top ranked members. Others will still share their opinion with the newbie and encourage him to improve. The issue most time is that newbies try to move faster than they should. Thereby, making blunders that will ignite being mocked by other members. I'd also use this opportunity to say, you should hang on, soon those responses won't be appearing on your screen anymore. The fun part of it, remains that high rank members don't mean to criticize your opinion. The truth is that they use it as a way to laugh and feel a bit happy. As though it's always funny to come across those responses, especially when it's directed to somebody else. No one would be happy to see it directed to them. As a newbie if you have the right response that is reasonably funny, you can send them back to the critic. Don't take them to heart, it's just a forum itch.

There are various kinds of newbies on this forum. And when we visit this board, we can see how many newbie accounts come to say hello, talk about their desire to develop, and so on. develop themselves? Maybe we don't know, maybe they have really learned and gone through the process, it's just that they haven't been able to express it well in this forum.

Or it could be that there are some people who are enthusiastic at the start, then change easily, especially if there is disturbance. Not only that, when they feel complicated with this forum, we can often find newbie accounts that don't develop and are just abandoned. One of the reasons is because they cannot develop. even though their inability to develop is because of how they manage their position in this forum. {Even though there are many ways to stay and develop here. It's even explained in great detail, which should be a good lesson for them, but not all newbies want to go through it. So, consistency in carrying out each process in this forum must be maintained.

Newbies - Read before posting

This topic covers basically everything a newbie should know before joining this community.

First off, learn the ins and outs of this forum before diving in.  The rules are like golden guidelines around here - know them well.  After that, take some time to explore different threads.  When you feel like you have got a handle on things, speak up where you have something to say.  Ask questions too - most folks are usually helpful and  oh and dont just spam post after post.  Better to really think through what you write.  Quality over quantity and all that. If you have a specific question about anything, feel free to ask.

I don't think there is any time duration to this rank, because some people that stumble on this forum from the onset really get confused on what to do. So it now depends how are want to learn here and even be part of the discussion to share your insight and thats what most people fail to learn on time as most people just get the impression that the more you create thread the more you are chanced to grow which to some extent is false.

This is not true, don't make it feels like that when it is not, old members get frowned at newbies stupidity and not the newbies, themselves, if you know what you're doing, you will always have better edge from here henceforth and no one will harrass you for doing the right thing or saying it, but it stinks when you discover that some are taking their personal way of life into this forum and such may not be accepted as long as they are not in line with the forum standard.

How do you become a beginner here properly and correctly?
I'm still messing around with the rules of this forum, and how can I make it better?

Being discouraged and not being respected will of course have a reason for this treatment. But it won't be done completely without reason because you are just a beginner. there are many beginners who also get full appreciation from high ranking members for their good knowledge and not being too hypocritical. Saying this forum is not beginner friendly means you still don't have enough metal to face what's even worse, this is only the beginning friends, you still have a long way to go, because if you take it for granted you give up, that's wrong.

Unfortunately, this forum is not "newbie-friendly".

I am very sorry to say that, but High ranked members usually mock or disrespect if a newbie raises an opinion.
This way new members get discouraged to participate, and of course this means that knowledge sharing might be less as well...

On some occasions, newbies in the forum might have sound knowledge about Bitcoin from personal studies or other forums. But apart from this situation, newbies are meant to behave like children in the forum. They should be free to ask questions, make mistakes and enjoy their childhood. It will be strange to see my children act like adults that is why most newbies are suspected not to be newcomers. If my child starts behaving like an adult, I will be concerned that something is wrong somewhere. My advice to newbies is that they should focus on learning and not try to impress anybody. They need time to understand the forum so that they will know how to present posts. Just like children, they should enjoy this stage because their mistakes and ignorance can be tolerated.

You don't need any further corrections because you can find them in the thread. If you carefully go through the contributions of members in that thread and apply them, your post quality will increase.     

This is your opinion and I respect it, but it's only accurate to an extent. The fact that a person is a newbie on this forum doesn't mean he's a newbie in Bitcoin. There are people who are very good traders and have a lot of knowledge about Bitcoin who are not on the forum. So if we limit the sharing of knowledge through topics to only old members on the forum, I feel like we will be missing out on what that fellow has to offer.

We're all here to learn and what's the point of we can't learn from people with lower ranks than us? A thing I've always liked about this forum is the fact that it has a ranking system but that doesn't affect the flow of knowledge.
It only becomes a problem when a newbie is teaching or trying to educate others on stuff about the forum, like how to use the forum.

Some never had the chance of experiencing what it takes to be a newbie, talking about those ones who buy account, they don't like stress and they feeling getting to the top doesn't need hard work. Newbie is the easiest rank to move out from like you said but being active is another thing to consider, some members find it hard to stay online to leave that rank. Seriously there's nothing to enjoy being a newbie.

For the beginning of Bitcoin forum journey as a new way is not that easy. Don't know what is crypto don't know how to do good quality post don't know how to impress people and don't know how to give a good quality reply post. At the beginning we have to learn a lot do many type of thesis about crypto. Read articles watch post. After that we gain some experience and starting post that is that much not good quality just average. I am a newbie and I don't do good quality post. I face a lot of problem for doing post mainly the grammatical problem I am student of class 11 I do work here beside my study. And I try to improve a lot hopefully soon I will be a good quality poster.

You are very right because most times I feel like creating a post but I will be scared and reluctant because I am an infant I the forum so I rather prefer to read intelligent post from high ranked members and hoping to grow like them soon.

Just like you said that there is no need rushing the process , when I joined the forum , I did not even know where to start , I was committed to reading posts and the styles of writing here , At a point I was discouraged and I even feel like leaving the forum but I realised that patience and perseverance are core factors that can pave a way to success. Currently I love the forum because any day I go through a post I learn a lot about bitcoin and cryptocurrency because the discussion here is  educating .

Initially I have no knowledge about bitcoin and and cryptocurrency but since I join the forum I started getting  ideas and good knowledge about bitcoin and that has actually made me to read constantly on every post that i come across on the forum .

I think even in the forum of BitcoinTalk, a person is here he will definitely learn something even if he is not doing anything but just saw other people talking and their posts and their problem's answers etc. He is getting the right knowledge. Even we have seen just like other platforms or apps like twitter and Facebook, users are using it for a long time and they didn't do anything but just they only see other people posts and tweets etc. through which they are getting information. So, we are also getting information through the BitcoinTalk and sometimes it is very useful even.

Even if a person has low rank like newbie he still can take benefit from BitcoinTalk.

Newbie is not a rank one should stay in for long time, it's the shortest duration of rank on the forum if the newbie is active and knows what he's doing, we were all once a newbie and started like one sometime ago, such had been a ladder for us to where we are now, it may never had been easy in the past but when we give it every necessary efforts demanded, it will be our own pride later to have overcome the challenges of being a newbie.

They lack awareness of the forum rules because they just visited the discussion and thought that they could do better than this post so they copypaste topics coming from outside this forum and think that they will do great and they cannot keep up with the flow of the conversation because they do not have knowledge on things that they posted because it comes from copy-pasting.

This is the fate of newbies who are not aware of the rules and what they should avoid and so many newbies fall into this, these are two kinds of newbies here, the other one is they only care about bounty they disregard that this platform is a discussion forum of everything related to Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency.

Honestly being a newbie isn't fun at all , is like you have this pressure on you to get things right, when you start typing is like you're writing a very strong test, too much tension (so I felt at some point). When you do something in the Forum and you feel you have done something big and expect a recommendation on what you've done, the next thing is like you don't exist, all your efforts would be ignored like you're a ghost.
I think newbies have it hard on the Forum more than any other ranked members, they need to put 99.9% of their time to get a better post that would attract attention, get other members get involved in their post, to also impress high ranked members too.
Some of these "newbies" are not really newbies, they just have the name (newbie) there to cover up and they create a thread that they know have been created and act like they don't know, with those kind of threads showing up every here and there it makes it difficult to even show concern on how to lead the real newbies.
When a newbie create a topic on any board they feel that's just the end, after creating a post they let it be without contributing to their thread, they feel thats how it works (creating a top and let others talk on it). To me, some of those members are the really people to address as newbies of this Forum. And is not only newbies that create topics and run away from it, we have high ranked members doing it, sometimes some forget they created a topic.

What do you think about my topic?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63130976
Where is my mistake?
Please correct.

You may have misunderstood, there is no prohibition here for beginners to create questions on new topics, it's just a shame that many beginners create the same topics that have already been asked by other beginners, thus making these questions over and over again.

And many beginners try to create a topic in the end they make it as good as possible in the end the topic is from copy paste. It would be wise as a beginner before creating a new topic to first check whether the topic they want to ask about already exists or not. And actually making this topic is not very important for beginners because there are so many topics about beginners that have been discussed here, beginners, don't be lazy about reading and searching using the search button that has been provided.

You are right about this because it is assumed that as a newbie, you basically know nothing about how things operate and that's the reason you registered. And even if you knew a thing or two about crytocurrencies and the Blockchain, I feel it won't hurt anyone if you kept your head down and learnt more, thereby adding more knowledge to your store but these days what we see on the forum are newbies who feel they know it all to even give tutorials!
 Everything has a process and time so instead of these noobs to focus on making their first post after registering, the best thing to do is to acclimate with where you are, take time to study the rules and regulations governing the place so you don't get caught on the wrong side of the law.

Ask the first question: where do newbies decide that new topics need to be created? From the very beginning, you can guess that not all people who claim to be new to the forum are real newbies. But yes, someone comes on the advice of friends with stories about how rank is important on the forum in order to earn some money. How do newbies learn about merit? Again, these people do not come for knowledge.

But we are sincerely happy for those people who want to learn about Bitcoin, who do not create thousands of topics from the first days, posing as gurus. And speaking of the joy of newbies—those who discover knowledge about Bitcoin day after day—these are real people with genuine interest who can enjoy (as the OP put it) the fact that they found such a forum.
I would like very mercantile people to understand that knowledge is sometimes worth more than temporary earnings.

Sorry sir, I'm a beginner here, what I want to ask is why beginners don't seem to be able to express their opinions, by creating new topics?
What is meant by discussion forum here?

That is why I always encourage newbies to ask questions whenever they are lost, at first some comments may try to admonish you or try to talk down on your post but at the end you will see the answer you need concerning the question you asked. Nobody is above learning, the good thing about the forum is that, you will see senior members coming to answer questions that has been asked, and they will give appropriate explanation for the knowledge you're seeking for with explicit detailing.

What kind of applause are they expecting? Is it receiving merits? I think that's what most newbies would like to receive to rank up. However, since they created a thread to share, they should not expect merits from it. Otherwise, these forum newbies will only be merit farmers, and none of them would be genuine in their contributions. Isn't it that we are here to learn, especially for newbies? If we can share, feel free—it's something we contribute to the community without expecting a return.

Agueably no doubt about that, one thing you should know is that creating a thread does no mean teaching high ranked members, sometimes might just be a kind of question thread because it not all time you comment on peoples post. Sometimes you create a thread of what you are passing through and need advice. It's only those who feel so porpose that will create a thread of advising people than learning. Truly you are right about many newbie who tend to teach while just coming to this forum newly. What I see is that most of them has experience about crypto currency before coming here so they always think the know everything without knowing that her is the central gravity of crypto currency.

Sometimes newbie always find it difficult to ask we question is because of the attitude of most high ranked members, there are certain high ranked members with less knowledge or lack manner of approach. They tend to ubderate you base on your rank and it makes the newbie less or inferior. But even as that one need to concentrate. Because any public organization you must find these certain people of that inmartured so you just pas by such people and move on otherwise you get yourself into trouble by the use of abusive words. I believe this platform is a place for great learning. I am not excluded in what am saying because am also a newbie so no matter what happens we will still improve. Thanks to all those higher ranked knowledgeable, understandable, interactible and communicable members who have devoted there time to educate us without bullieing us, we are forever grateful.

Firstly when a question is asked and you see many old members actually pointing out to OP that the question has been asked before is because the newbie doesn’t actual use the search button before the thread creation and also the way we communicate will be quite different some use high tone communication but this is a public forum where you need to Strong and don’t take anything personal but just learn.

Regarding different opinions it is because everyone has is own preference and experiences so they will only recommend what they feel or think is the best. It is then time for you to do your own research, do not trust information just because it is coming from a higher ranking member.


I also see it as unnecessary to teach while you should be learning but this is not a rank advice. Someone can join the forum new and would have been a pro outside the forum. Should need arises where he sees to create a thread that would address a problem on the forum and also be beneficial to many then there is no problem in newbie creating the thread. The problem lie on total newbies that probably through reading process they decide to create the thread this are threads that mostly filled with errors and unbaked informations, this is the type of thread creation that is said to be avoided not pros with low ranking accounts due to just registering

Or maybe bitcoin first before any newbie get into considerations.


If they are not in line with the main topic on discussion, or spamming the forum with less quality posts, there are other newbies doing fine and good because they know what they are doing and are not going beyond their boundaries, such shouldn't be treated as attacks, but a way of being corrected.


There's no sentiments in this thing, if you're good then no one will stops you from shining, if you don't have an idea about a particular topic on discussion, feel free to find other threads you could best give your ideal knowledge as contribution.



 

One newbie that gets it. Sadly, I cannot say the same of myself when I was a newbie but I know better now and support the statement. Just like Hugeblack has mentioned knowing who is writing for merits or for knowledge is quite easy to spot and this has nothing to do with the length or brevity of the text.

Lastly, not all newbies on the forum are newbies to bitcoin or crypto currency, blockchain and what have you. these are the exceptions.

It's crucial to begin from the learning aspect than teaching when we are not fully informed about the topic. Focusing on learning is always important here. For the time being read gradually and follow instruction. Good you are doing more of research than teaching at the moment. And when you do, teach, it'll be nice to always understand the topic very well, so that when you follow up the discussion, it'll help you understand better.


It's not easy to adapt to a fresh community or environment. Especially in this forum, it only gets easier if we follow it consistently. Trying to take the whole learning at once would be hectic and enormous. And I can relate with the way the this forum changes our behaviors and contributes to our interactive stamina with other people, especially when discussing about bitcoin. The wealth of knowledge shared in this forum, helps members to at least contribute to any discussion in the real world. It's quite an interesting place to learn and spend our time.

When creating an OP surely that guy have knowledge on it unless or depends on the post like if he is asking question or clarification right? Sometimes Ive also post question topic about something to get ideas on others or I shared something I am interested with. Thats how someone or a newbie create a post, well act naturally and avoid that copy pasta thing which cant help them but also let them be banned.

What will newbies get when they pleased higher ranks?. It would be much better if newbies gain knowledge and that will surely pleased higher ranks since the newbies they taught or guided have learned a lot here in the forum. I am sure you see other threads created by newbies asking questions because asking questions is not wrong and it only means that newbies are will to learn through asking and doing research. Congratulations OP for your new rank.

Life is in phase and whatever you fail to do at a step before climbing to another will hunt you and demand you to fix it with additional stress and time. Just like the OP said, as newbie, enjoy being a newbie. Do the things newbies should be doing, don't rush into faking it just to measure up with members or full members. Don't sleep process, use this period to learn the basics ad it will guide you to stand out as you continue to grow in the forum.

It's just like a little child that is supposed to be learning things from elders trying to prove to his elder that he already knows it, no one will be willing to teach him. A man made this statement and I think it has great application to what you just said here, the man said, never try to speak or show off when your superior is educating you about something, it is a disrespect to him and will hinder him from telling you more. Instead being like you are totally ignorant and he will dish out more information for you".

With the topic title, I burst into laughing cause it sounds very funny. Well the truth is bitter, is never funny to be newbie as one will do most thing a wrong way and most time you will feel as if you are the only one that is a nivince in the forum. Aside the knowledge aspect, the rank at times do make one feel some how inferior to others. That's the feeling a times.
There is nothing bad, being a newbie though

And, talking about ranks, congratulations OP for your new Hero Member rank.

Here happens like with children of many countries nowadays: it seems that they want to grow up very fast, while they don't understand that childhood is typically a beautiful stage of everyone's life that will never repeat. I remember my first steps in crypto in general and in the forum in particular, and although I made many mistakes, that was the time to make them and learn from them.

I wouldn't say that I would like to go back and be a newbie again, because each stage has it's own benefits, but I fondly remember those moments when everything was new. So yes, for those who feel the need to rank up quickly, stop for a moment and enjoy being a newbie!

That's part of the mistake they never thought about before making and never tried to go through the process of becoming more knowledgeable on the forum. Most of them probably want to be seen instantly showing their feet at a much higher level and ignore how they should start, maintain and not think quickly about something they want to achieve. When they have relevant knowledge perhaps the community will try to help each other and if they fail to demonstrate knowledge it will end up with inconsistencies that lead to giving up.

For me enjoying the process must be done slowly because it will be much better for safety. When we know what to do, it will be easy to achieve the targets we want to achieve. Read more and participate in the discussion process because that is how we will develop much more. After that, just learn where we should be so that the community can help us to rise to a much higher rank.

I get it, diving into a forum like Bitcointalk for the first time can feel kinda overwhelming.  When you are just starting out, its all new territory.  But I agree, you gotta embrace the newbie status! Its no shame in asking the basic questions, we have all been there at some point.  Forget tryin' to sound smart by copying long posts - keep it real and ask what you really wanna know and  the learning journey goes smoother when you speak your mind.  We have all been at the start before so there is no judgment here.  Just open yourself up to learning and enjoy the ride. 

Heres to all you newbies out there - You got this!

Why are people even trying to grow their accounts, when they can focus on growing their knowledge instead? I know signature campaigns are nice, but there's MUCH more money to be made if you actually know this industry inside and out.

You are right mate, I know how many days, even got to a month that I kept watching and learning about the activities here before I was able to make threads and even reply topics here it really isn't easy at all as everything will look so scanty in the eyes like it feels like someone who is in another part of the world as it isn't what people outside this forum are thinking that you will be thinking, your approach and lifestyle begins to change as soon as one join this life changing forum.

Your discussion with people changes and tend to even interact more with people here than outside here. It's really a great experience and I'm glad I found this transforming forum and I would really want to thank the people that made this forum a reality and stood strong for many years now though I don't know all of you but as you'll can see your efforts are yielding fruits.

I see it less necessary to create topic thread as a lower rank member, my thoughts should still be based on reading and trying to gain much knowledge.
I won't call it lack of self confidence but I think at this my level of ranking am not even at a very good position to create threads and start teaching because I see very well experienced members which am not yet qualified to teach them because I still have a lot to learn from them. So I do more good than harm of reading, answering and asking questions that Is of utmost interest

No one is asking you to appear better than you are. On the contrary, it is easy to know if a person is participating for the sake of learning and for merit points. Focus on learning, learn daily for an hour (read books or watch YouTube videos), and I am certain that the knowledge that will be You have enough within a month to write high-quality posts without needing to plagiarize.

For a newbie I believe no question is a useless one it all depends on how you asked it, where (the board) and when (prior to the time asked has it been already addressed). These are a lot of factors that's bothering around newbies thread questions. I recall plenty times my threads were batched with different opinions that sucks all because it has been discussed many times why asking again, for the newbie it was just a honest question's waiting to get a an accommodating reply that should be welcoming but no... Old member have to show they are old members 
In the forum the newbie ignorance is what every member of the forum had passed through and we all understands the challenges that tag along that circle and one of those challenges is the fear of not making mistakes wanting to impress the older guys in the forum. What I think is no newbie should be scared of making mistakes for it's from them that we learn faster than when anyone drops a random reply in our thread.

If we must be honest with ourselves, it is not easy being a newbie in a forum like this. You will be overwhelmed by many things such as the rules of the forum and each board, how to post, quote, add image and many things. Even though there have been threads raised to address all these, searching for them and being able to understand what was written in those threads can be challenging especially for those who are not into coding. It is even worse for people who are new to Bitcoin and the blockchain technology.

One thing that is certain is that the process will become easy with time if the determination is there. As a newbie, there is no point rushing the process or struggling to impress people... just be yourself, ask question and commit some time to reading because that is the way to grow here.

The forum is mainly concerned about newbies, and a lot of beginners' questions has been tackled by intelligent and worthy top ranked members. As a newbie it feels good deep down our thoughts to craft a difficult looking thread to please the high ranked members. But, that doesn't make us newbies. Though, silly or repeated questions are not welcomed in the forum. Yet, they're some easy questions we would want to ask as newbies, but because it makes us sound as true novice, we'd want to bypass asking them. As we'd want to show the forum members, we're doing enough research and reading about bitcoin and the forum entirely. And, most times such threads, centering on teaching, may not help us as newbies because what we tend to teach we can't relate or follow up in the discussions.

Such things, has caused many newbies to fall for plagiarism and as well dumping their threads without participating in the discussions happening under the thread. Being a newbie in the forum is almost a one time experience for every member and we must behave as one. Feel free to ask those questions that sounds and looks too simple to you. That's mainly what other members would entertain and send us reasonable advises and responses to. Thereby, gradually helping your learning process in the forum, with lesser stress.

Coining out a thread on what we don't fully understand, just to stand out, and look like a very intelligent newbie may not help our growth in the forum. Because this section is mostly visited by every member to entertain and answer questions from newbies. And because most basic bitcoin knowledge may have skipped our minds we tend to refresh our memories here, by providing those answers to simple questions. Hence, I'd encourage newbies to always come up with those questions, which they think is too basic or simple and need not to be asked. Feel like a newbie as it's a one time experience here, you'd learn faster when you admit and accept being a newbie.

I've seen newbies creating long copy and paste threads, which ends up not being attended to because of the plagiarism and the volume of the thread, and as well the OP not following up with what they've said to back up the knowledge shared. And when after investing hours creating those threads, the applauds they expected doesn't appear, they'll feel not being good enough. Enjoy the process.