Topic: EQUIHASH ASICS!?!?! Can it really be? (Read 12656 times)

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anyways, its been a hot issue after Bitmain released its Cryptonight and Etash doorstopper machines (hope not)

If this thread started today, possibility are they truly exist.

It would be more fair to compare it to 6 x 1070 or 6 x RX 570/580, since ETH miners don't USE Vega or 1080 ti cards due to their VERY POOR HASHRATE PER $.

Sure both cards will do ballpark 35 Mhash, but when a 1070 at less than 70% of the cost manages 31+ and a RX 570/580 at HALF OR LESS the cost manages 28-30.....

Who the hell bumped this thread. Look at the date !!!

ASICs are a real threat to decentralized cryptocurrency. But I'm optimistic new algorithms will be developed
that will remove not only the energy advantage of ASICs, but also the cost advantage, like with the new
Bitmain ETHash miner, which again has no energy advantage, but should have a 3-4x hardware cost
advantage upon shipping in August.

I think what is also may be needed for a truly decentralized cryptocurrency is a mechanism to quickly
change the algorithm and forking before development of an ASIC is possible. A mechanism that doesn't
allow for a conspiracy behind the scenes, a mechanism that doesn't allow for advanced knowledge of
what the new algorithm will be. Probably would have to be done every 3 months, like clockwork.

I want to see an x16r yescrypt hybrid.  The x16r framework, but incorporating many different
yescrypt-like GPU-resistant algorithms.   But I'm not sure yescrypt is truly GPU-resistant.  
Maybe it is just that nobody has coded a good GPU miner for it yet.

Now the acquisition of asics becomes unprofitable. I think a lot of people don't understand it but soon I think they'll understand and give up this idea. Now there is a shake-up for the whole market. The profitability of mining decreased to a minimum. I have a lot of friends selling rigs. Asics is generally impossible to sell. Nobody wants them. Cryptocurrency also has fallen dramatically in price.

Good point!

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/263254-samsung-begins-manufacturing-asic-chips-mining-cryptocurrency

yeah yeah...  I see your points.

First of all I think the chicom will learn some humility in the coming years... they seems to have forgotten a lot of think by being trapped in the propaganda and lies of cccp...

I have no idea what's inside those miners... It's possible that they stole some ip to clone gpu chips... who knows... but you point a very important thing, is that nvidia is the type of dirty company (who crypt their bioses) to pay or even develop in house specific algo for their architecture... they did it a lot in the gaming world... just their physx shit... what a scandal...

sha 2 is the easiest algo... and so could be the most competitive... once samsung and maybe intel enter those little shit head from china will start to understand, that we know they want war and they will be served...

their attempted alliance with the terrorists organization call the E.U. is enough for me (which will result in few death from the traitors in europe, the cia being way way way way way more free in foreign unliberated nation).

The new Bitmain Ethash miner on the horizon (shipping in August) matches GPUs in hashrate/watt, so that indicates also it is probably merely some GPUs with lots of memory in a box.  But the thing is, it costs $800 for the equivalent of 5x 1080 Ti or 5x Vega 64.  So _if_ it really is some standard GPU chips in a box with memory, then this could spell the end of using regular graphics cards for mining, because you should be able to reprogram such a box o' GPUs for virtually any coin.  On the other hand, if new crypto-algorithms required the latest patented architecture of NVIDIA/AMD to be able to get a good hashrate, then maybe generic GPUs in a box won't be able to hack it.  

What I'd like to see is something like x16r that combines the most supposedly-ASIC-resistant algos out there.  So it could use Equihash, a new permutation of daggerhashimoto, yescrypt, an Nvidia-Volta-specific algo, an AMD-Vega-specific algo, and a few more like the latest version of cryptonight.  So to mine something like this efficiently you'd need at the minimum a good CPU, a recent NVIDIA card and a recent AMD card all in the same machine.  

I'm not a computer architecture expert, so I don't know if the above is a workable or good idea, but obviously something has to be done besides forking every 6 months. How do you know the core devs aren't colluding to produce their own ASICs ahead of release? People who want freedom and privacy will move to the more decentralized ASIC-resistant PoW crypto, and people who don't value their freedom or privacy will go back to using paypal and visa/mastercard.  And all the ASIC coins will be the first ones broken (probably covertly) by quantum computers.  

exactly, not publicly available, but secret ones? It could be...

It's easy .. scammer = parasite - produce nothing and live of other superior lifeforms.

Some people are asking to be scammed though ...

It's actually easier to create an ethash ASIC miner than equihash ASIC. so most probably fake ethash is more dependent on memory so just produce ASIC with fast memory it will do the job while equihash is dependent on core and memory so more complicated manufacturing process is needed if they did so they can compete with Nvidia and AMD in GPU market. "ethash asics first needed to be released before we even complain about news regarding equihash asics".

Only a video is a real proof, so many days passed but there is still no video, so it is  SCAM for sure !

Well you could watch some nice movies on it :p

Ok. I only registered do give more proof of a scam and thank you.

When I reverse-google the picture, I didn't get any seagate or external harddrive.
But what I found is a forum from 2013 posting the picture and the specs:
The Little Black Box - AMLogic AML8726-M3
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=163381

 

And I also posted a comment on the equi-hash site asking why it looks like the "little black box" with a link to it.
My comment is waiting for approval right now.
Proof: https://pasteboard.co/kT3awAYD.png

Thanks for you guys, who initially started to mark this as scam. Saved my money.

NOW, check this out, this is a PHOTO I TAKE MYSELF in 2013 of one of my BITCOIN ASICS

That is a BPMC Blue fury BITCOIN ASIC MINER 2.7 MH, i know because I have one from 2013, here is a picture of it.
it is EXACTLY the same (except for the heatsinks) but check at the labels of the circuit board, is the same one, an ancient BITCOIN ASIC MINER, not an equihash one.


any more proof that it is a scam?
if you wanna prove that it is not, please post photo of the rig opened showing circuit board in good res.
i am an electronic engineer, i specialize in microcontrollers and fpga programming, and high speed digital logic, so i will most likely will have an idea
cheers
indkt.

I can see some newbie accounts to make some good comments for this website.?
This fact is nearly 100% scammed project  so be careful with this project .

Guys i ordered one of these miners! Here it is! Its getting me $500 a day from mining! BUY BUY BUY BEFORE THEY SELL OUT!


Picture of the miner i received:




Disclaimer: These are a scam. This post was a joke. DO NOT BUY ONE!

ha ha ha..
50000h/s, this is the best Equihasher ever.. Made my old days always fun.

hey wait i just got V3 its soooooooooooo real mate...

You can even tap on the remote to hash faster... if you hold A and B .. you get a solo mine block... instant.. this is V3.. only for fools...

Like the friging scammers prbably from nigeria hiding on s120.web-hosting.com (198.54.114.189)...............

please go FUCK OFF AND DIE and STOP SCAMMING PEOPLE


Image of V3:

This is a scam made by retard scammers. If you know anything about ASIC hardware, you can see it clearly.

They also think that potential buyers are total retards as well.

he changed the power adapter in the website...

posted this in April in other thread..

from that to this..


I shouldn't have pointed it out...gives me chuckles every time i looked at it  

i can't believe this, where is the proof of this that is working and doing 4.66k on the pool side? can you provide these info if not this is a scam, and other specs like consumption where are they? equihash isn't very memory intensive, but to think thta you can pack 4.66k in that usb it's mean that is false, it's not possible

lol ..... 2 newbie accounts ..... why there is not  any senior member or legendary user supporting this ? ahhh account costed too much ? man if you need to organize a scam needed to spend the money .... buy 1 - 2  accounts legendary .... make review with some nice umboxing and  picture .... money flows in ... run with the bitcoins .... instead no ...  you wanted to go cheap... so you wont even get a penny out of it !  IDIOT ... you think people has your same intelligence level ?

hahaha this is hilarious...

Doesn't look like any of the pics on the website?

interested in this limited production equihash miner? speed is 4.66k

(1) you will receive this product within 2 weeks after payment
(2) receipt will be given to you - email, fax and mail
(3) only selected few people gets to purchase this miner
(4) speed is slightly faster than the A1

those are gpu mate, there are no asic for equihash if they are scam, still you have not posted any proof that you received the product, only a video is a real proof, that show the hashrate and the earning, also what is the wattage? if they hash at lower rate than gpu why bother with this thing?

I can post a pic of my Bittrex balance as well.  Post pics of the miner..  Oh yea, it's vapor!!

maybe but first step is fpga, then asics... will see.

that's not proof that you mined with equihasher... that's just an image of an alleged balance.  nothing in that pic indicates mined coins.

Then how do you explain the A2 "miner" which is actually a external hard drive manufactured by Seagate?
This bull shit was easily found with reverse image search.

SCAM.

Let see this i have mined with equihasher

Here is the proof

If still dont believe i dont care

https://s2.postimg.org/pps1tet09/zcash_bittrex.jpg

It cannot be Scam
Reason:
(1) I have received the product.
(2) When you buy the product the receipt is given to you.
(3) I have contacted many peoples before its purchase that is it work perfect.
(4) The Zcash mining equihasher speed is not to big that i say it is perfect scam
A1 speed is 3200 & A2 speed is 1500 Only

Go the fuck away promoting this scumbag scam.

You are not going to get any money out of this.

What are saying?

Miners are not for kids play with toys
Rather than playing with Mining equipments

Try to be serious when you talk
If you dont want to mine its okay

but dont put fake comments
*dbc23*

You can mine with any pool with best luck

And now another brand new account with the SECOND VERSION!  Wow, they're on a streak!

Hi brother i want to ask
I have received the product
Equihasher A2

Their configuration is easy
Do you know which pool is best for mining??

lol, sure, says the person with a brand new account

IT IS NOT A SCAM I HAVE BEEN MINING WITH IT
EQUIHASHER A1

These are device design which are best

If not want to believe dont believe it

First i remember when antminer miners came people said it is scam
How it is and now people like their products

It works

same email to me 

Here is their reply to my email:

It looks like they grabbed the first two pc related images they found on a google search. F for trying to scam people in the first place and 0 for effort. :/

They can't because they didn't say they will ,but zec team said that, i can't tell how technically it can be done , but i think they can change the algo before asics takes more than 51% of the network hashrate, but even if it is not true it will keep asics away for a time.
I think anyone made or trying to make an asic for zec or eth will keep for self profit rather than selling and risk that algo change or fake POS ( if they exist)

they exist

But if that were true, wouldn't they have stayed away from any of the 'X' series algo's? Especially considering its 11-15 rounds of hashing? Following your  theory all that would be needed to make the bakail X series miners 'worthless' would be to change 1 round of the hashing?

I'm not saying these are real by any means, its pretty well established now that its a scam, but based on your reasoning most ASIC's would never have been made....
Also as stated above

Scam for sure , no one will try to make an asic for equihash because if known the algorithm will be changed and this machine will not worth a penny , and thats a huge risk for developers and users.

no it can't be, but equihash is more prone to fbga than etheruem for example, so in the future it's possible to have the hash rate much higher, i think what you linked oculd be a rig that mine equihash, made of amd gpu like they did with the panda miner for etheruem, at first everyone claimed that it was an asic, but it was just composed by gpu chipset

This might be the lamest scam attempt ever, when it comes to the so-called "products".

LOL
https://tineye.com/search/bc7d357fc01b7402f9977bb03709d34ac9a89291/

It will be still good for BURST minng

Awesome, this is exactly what i was hoping for lol. Sometimes my excitement at a new product gets the best of me lmao.
Im interested on the response I get from their support now lol

SCAM!

Lol, see the product picture of the so called "A2" miner.

It is a picture of external hard drive manufactured by Seagate.
http://www.techspot.com/news/38843-seagate-releases-upgradeable-external-hard-drives.html

SCAM!

They have two products. The "big" one is an old HTPC from 2013 and the smaller one is an external HDD. So no, it cannot be and is not for real.

Has any body else seen these yet? Is this for real?!?!? Has anyone actually unboxed one yet? what is power usage?
Equi-hash.com