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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 27, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

I think POS wasn't the reason ETH become popular instead it's an attempt to mitigate it from scaling issues and also for eth in going greener, meanwhile even when eth was still POW it was so popular that even the fee increase so high. the POS was part of the solution in effort to decrease the scaling issue in which has motivated many coins to become 2nd layer solution.
and so far it seems this works, not solving the problems entirely, there's something still need solution.

POS It's not the main reason for ETH's popularity, POS is only a trigger for ETH to be in demand again because the migration made from POW to POS makes fees cheaper and transactions are confirmed faster. ETH always had fee issues at first when the spike in transactions was happening, but now that's not the case anymore. Become a solution and create layers for ETH and several other networks that follow in ETH's footsteps. But there are still many problems that ETH has to solve, it is still in the development process.

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it just doesn't matter how much ethereum killer are made they'd never gain success.
the ethereum killer in the past we know like EOS and etc are just temporarily gaining fame and then fades, meanwhile ethereum still standing strong, eventually I guess the newer ethereum killer will also have the same fate.
these so called ethereum killer should just learn in becoming good blockchain instead, then fame will also comes along the way.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

ADA serve its own purpose while ETH are doing the same thing, they are both focus on their chosen field and they are not too focused about the competition. I know many are expecting that ADA will be and ETH killer the moment in launched before because of the hype, but look at ETH now it is still doing great and no altcoins yet are ready to replace ETH. ADA should work for more good updates that can actually attract new investors by this, maybe there’s a chance but of course don’t expect that much.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

Why do you look at it as a competition? The future of decentralized apps will be multi chain according to Ethereum's main website, that means they don't look at other smart contract platforms as competitors, maybe because one blockchain can't provide all of the three features that must be in a blockchain, which are security, scalability, and decentralization. All available blockchains provide only two of the three mentioned features. Therefore, we should look at its roles as complementary roles.

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Quote from: Joshapat on January 28, 2023, 09:16:13 AM

Ethereum is certainly a network that has the most populous network, it can be said that more than 35% of the project uses the ERC20 network, and now ETH costs are also getting cheaper for swaps and transactions, and speeds are certainly better than Cardano, and in my opinion Cardano needs a more complex test To be able to say equivalent or better than Ethereum.

That is also because Cardano hasn't been completed. So far it's on Voltaire stage but we can already see there are tons of projects on it compare to that popular platforms today such as SOL, DOT or AVAX.

The CMC rank can say a lot about the project but most of the tokens created on top of ADA are not listed anywhere. The most known to exchanges are the ERC20 tokens. This evaluation probably has to be updated when ADA had fully transitioned to its fullest.

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Ethereum is certainly a network that has the most populous network, it can be said that more than 35% of the project uses the ERC20 network, and now ETH costs are also getting cheaper for swaps and transactions, and speeds are certainly better than Cardano, and in my opinion Cardano needs a more complex test To be able to say equivalent or better than Ethereum.

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Well, if Vitalik will reduce the fees as he promised, then Cardano has no chance.

This is only one reason i don’t like to use Etherum in the bull season, i think it’s a big problem for all the users who guys making transaction in eth network, even in the last bull market i spend 200$ gas fees in a single transaction you believe it or not. So here fee is crazy but i don’t think cardano will overtake eth because eth is number two coin.

Yeah and that's why they move to PoS already to solved that high fees, (similar to bitcoin network in 2017 bull run wherein the network is clogged). I think I can understand you reason because I have the same experience as well. But it seems that the market has settled down already.

As for Cardano, I think it shouldn't be look at a competitor of Ethereum in any way.

But a good project that we can invest as well in this bear market because it's cheap and in my personal opinion, should be one of those coins that will enjoy a good success in the next bull run.

A good project to look upon as there are still great opportunities to buy this coin while the value still down I mean away from the last time high, being a wise investor, if you can buy and hold then set your target, bullrun will comeback and the market will again bring decent benefits for every investor who pick the right project to invest in.

Either ETH or ADA as long as you understand how you'll be compensated, then it's up to your own judgement to invest.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 16, 2023, 03:32:26 PM

Cardano is a lot cheaper than ETH so we may see newbies decide that Cardano is a better option for them than ETH. I think both will do really well in the next bull run but if I had to pick one to invest in right now I would pick Cardano.

I think ETH could do a 10 to 15 x increase in price in the next big bull market but Cardano has a higher ceiling, maybe it could easily do 100 x increase.

well, if we look at it from a price point of view, then Cardano has a pretty good advantage to take advantage of, because the price is cheap, and it's very suitable for all types of investors. Moreover, the potential is also quite good in the future. however, comparing it to Ethereum as a whole, I would probably prefer Ethereum. it's because of the prospects that Ethereum already has, as well as its current developments. I feel that the benefits of Ethereum are much wider than Cardano.

after all, both are good coins. choosing one of them won't be a big problem, it's just a matter of how we choose a profit strategy in the future. I'm probably more inclined to use Ethereum than Cardano. it's because my goal is to own more Ethereum and hold it for a long time.

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Quote from: lobo13hf on January 27, 2023, 06:24:08 PM

if you one long term investment just pick ethereum it's no brainer. there has been history of smart contract alts changing its position quite frequently like eos and the likes in the former days, this could be well happened towards ada therefore if you want to be safe for long term holding then just pick ethereum. but if you're hoping of creating massive returns then I guess ada could be alternative even though there are many similar coins out there honestly.

Until now ehereum is still the second best after bitcoin and this indicates the confidence of investors that Ethereum is indeed very worthy of being an attractive investment. so if we are forced to compare with ADA, it is clearly difficult and cannot be compared to that, because at a time like this what is needed is trust in a coin which can indeed provide a result that can be profitable. you are right mate what is needed is a sense of security and can be trusted for the long term to be able to produce and that is clearly in ethereum and not that ADA is not good but choices must be made.

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Cardano is a good technology as well but I think ETH will remain the first option of many and will stay as the top altcoins. This two has been competing since the launch of Cardano but ADA can’t handle the competition that much since it needs to surpass other altcoins first before reaching the level of ETH. Good updates can be a big help, I guess ADA should not aim to replace ETH anymore better to focus on its own technology and allows it to stays in the competition.

People are saying Cardano has a good technology, some even say that they are more scalable then eth but where they are basing that statement? Are everyone suddenly tech savvy in that level they can review the code? I am mostly listening to the both sides in this argument and while i am not understanding everything, i feel it's pretty obvious that Charles is overshilling and over simplyfying the problems and his statements on the subject aren't meant for other coders but for shilling ADA to investors. Which is a red flag and pretty much definiton of a populist.

Do you believe that Vitalik is not overshilling and not oversimplifying problems?

It's true that Vitalik is the most successful in shilling his coin to investors. Obviously, Charles is not as good.

If "populist" is a person, who misleads ordinary people and exploits common misunderstanding and confusion, then Vitalik is a devil in the hell of populism. You have to be a really exceptional person to avoid being a victim of his plausible reasoning.

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Quote from: samcrypto on January 27, 2023, 05:33:11 PM

Cardano is a good technology as well but I think ETH will remain the first option of many and will stay as the top altcoins. This two has been competing since the launch of Cardano but ADA can’t handle the competition that much since it needs to surpass other altcoins first before reaching the level of ETH. Good updates can be a big help, I guess ADA should not aim to replace ETH anymore better to focus on its own technology and allows it to stays in the competition.

People are saying Cardano has a good technology, some even say that they are more scalable then eth but where they are basing that statement? Are everyone suddenly tech savvy in that level they can review the code? I am mostly listening to the both sides in this argument and while i am not understanding everything, i feel it's pretty obvious that Charles is overshilling and over simplyfying the problems and his statements on the subject aren't meant for other coders but for shilling ADA to investors. Which is a red flag and pretty much definiton of a populist.

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if you one long term investment just pick ethereum it's no brainer. there has been history of smart contract alts changing its position quite frequently like eos and the likes in the former days, this could be well happened towards ada therefore if you want to be safe for long term holding then just pick ethereum. but if you're hoping of creating massive returns then I guess ada could be alternative even though there are many similar coins out there honestly.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

Cardano is a good technology as well but I think ETH will remain the first option of many and will stay as the top altcoins. This two has been competing since the launch of Cardano but ADA can’t handle the competition that much since it needs to surpass other altcoins first before reaching the level of ETH. Good updates can be a big help, I guess ADA should not aim to replace ETH anymore better to focus on its own technology and allows it to stays in the competition.

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Quote from: AakZaki on January 27, 2023, 04:56:46 PM

ETH became popular when it moved to POS and the fees were quite cheap compared to before POS was implemented. If you have to compare with ADA, very far from ETH. Because ADA currently doesn't have many fans and ETH remains number 2 after Bitcoin. There are also more and more ETH ecosystems and ETH Layer2 and Layer3 continue to emerge which makes fees cheaper and more choices.

I think POS wasn't the reason ETH become popular instead it's an attempt to mitigate it from scaling issues and also for eth in going greener, meanwhile even when eth was still POW it was so popular that even the fee increase so high. the POS was part of the solution in effort to decrease the scaling issue in which has motivated many coins to become 2nd layer solution.
and so far it seems this works, not solving the problems entirely, there's something still need solution.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

Why are there still questions like this? Obviously, Ethereum has more than Cardano. Ethereum will always be ahead of ADA. So, it looks like it will be difficult for Cardano to take over the Ethereum position or take over in all respects. They themselves are currently in the 8th position and it is very difficult to catch up with Ethereum. Not only that, can Cardano gain more trust than Ethereum? In my opinion, no, even very difficult.

But, I also cannot deny that ADA is actually also a good altcoin that we can use for trading or even investing activities. However, if our expectation is to take over Ethereum or even to do what Ethereum has done so far, this will be a very difficult situation and we may not reach it.

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ETH became popular when it moved to POS and the fees were quite cheap compared to before POS was implemented. If you have to compare with ADA, very far from ETH. Because ADA currently doesn't have many fans and ETH remains number 2 after Bitcoin. There are also more and more ETH ecosystems and ETH Layer2 and Layer3 continue to emerge which makes fees cheaper and more choices.

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Quote from: mdzahed134 on January 25, 2023, 10:33:01 AM

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Well, if Vitalik will reduce the fees as he promised, then Cardano has no chance.

This is only one reason i don’t like to use Etherum in the bull season, i think it’s a big problem for all the users who guys making transaction in eth network, even in the last bull market i spend 200$ gas fees in a single transaction you believe it or not. So here fee is crazy but i don’t think cardano will overtake eth because eth is number two coin.

I think it would happen this time around. I know that last time we had the bull season the gas fee on ETH was huge and that is why there was a bit of a problem, but this time around we have seen it be a lot better and that is how we are going to be richer on ETH.

Because last time there were a lot of people who looked for alternatives, but this time around we are going to have low gas fee according to Vitalik, which means that if it really happens then everyone will use ETH and won't need alternatives like ADA or many others. This will cause ETH to go up, and all the other "alternatives" to ETH will end up dying and being low priced, because we will not be needing them anymore.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

This is not only recent that I have heard, actually when talking about direct competitors in this market, I always see the problem of dividing into categories like BTC, ETH and the rest of altcoins.
Too much of the past just looked at the problem of some minor bugs on the ETH system that are outstanding, but even so, its power is now too great to replace. And for ADA alone, I think it's just another exaggeration to follow ADA. I think it's unnecessary to compare it with other platforms, if it does well, it will have its own positions better in this market.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

No, Ethereum is ever developing, they already have a scheduled update that can bring another hype to the Ethereum market. Besides, technology can be easily copied or modified if released in public, so I do not think that ADA will overtake ETH in terms of tech for long. Besides ADA had been known for its delay so I do not think that it will take ADA a short time to develop such technology. It is more probable that ETH could have developed something much more advance and released it earlier than the current development of ADA tech.

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The thing here is that once a tech got popular, another company will try to adopt it too. I don't think Cardano will have a significant lead in technology, especially when ETH also has expert developers on their side. Yeah, they might have a little bit advantage but that doesn't mean much to the masses. It's the trust and utilities, especially when convenient enough, that's going to win in the end.

ETH will always try to improve on their pace though, because they are huge and they can't be as agile as other projects. Which means that other projects could end up building new things that ETH could follow up very very late, and that's not really a good thing at all. I know that it is going to be a simple thing for them to build it if they want to, but quick and simple are not the same things.

For example, it was simple to go from PoW to PoS many smaller projects did it within like a few months, but it took ETH a lot longer time, years, why? Because they are bigger. That's what ADA should work on, being fast and agile on their improvements so ETH can't catch up.

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The thing here is that once a tech got popular, another company will try to adopt it too. I don't think Cardano will have a significant lead in technology, especially when ETH also has expert developers on their side. Yeah, they might have a little bit advantage but that doesn't mean much to the masses. It's the trust and utilities, especially when convenient enough, that's going to win in the end.

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Quote from: mdzahed134 on January 25, 2023, 10:33:01 AM

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Well, if Vitalik will reduce the fees as he promised, then Cardano has no chance.

This is only one reason i don’t like to use Etherum in the bull season, i think it’s a big problem for all the users who guys making transaction in eth network, even in the last bull market i spend 200$ gas fees in a single transaction you believe it or not. So here fee is crazy but i don’t think cardano will overtake eth because eth is number two coin.

Yeah and that's why they move to PoS already to solved that high fees, (similar to bitcoin network in 2017 bull run wherein the network is clogged). I think I can understand you reason because I have the same experience as well. But it seems that the market has settled down already.

As for Cardano, I think it shouldn't be look at a competitor of Ethereum in any way.

But a good project that we can invest as well in this bear market because it's cheap and in my personal opinion, should be one of those coins that will enjoy a good success in the next bull run.

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Quote from: Vickysagar on January 17, 2023, 03:15:34 AM

Well, if Vitalik will reduce the fees as he promised, then Cardano has no chance.

This is only one reason i don’t like to use Etherum in the bull season, i think it’s a big problem for all the users who guys making transaction in eth network, even in the last bull market i spend 200$ gas fees in a single transaction you believe it or not. So here fee is crazy but i don’t think cardano will overtake eth because eth is number two coin.

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 19, 2023, 10:20:20 AM

There's a high possibility for Cardano to take over the top spot only if ETH will remain slow and expensive.

Things are not that worse in ETH like it used to be, the fees have dropped down but it is still expensive but still people use them and as long as there are developers and investors invested in ETH it will rally.

Quote from: Johnyz on January 19, 2023, 10:20:20 AM

Its actually hard to tell because many are still using ETH network despite of the issues with the fees and the slower network. Honestly, I don't want to choose because I believe both of them have a bright future so better to hold both than to choose on which one is better, time can tell but for now ETH is still the top choice of many.

Since it is a purely speculative market, you never know when some of the crazy investors start investing heavily in Cardano and once that happens the price would rally.

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in the short term I would choose cordano because there is no sign that etherium will be bullish in the short term given the current situation but my gut feeling is that ETH will do well in the long term

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on January 18, 2023, 11:23:40 PM

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When comparing Ethereum vs Cardano, Ethereum definitely has the upper hand. I consider Ethereum as the most reliable coin after Bitcoin. Ethereum has developed their own platform a lot. Maybe a few days ago a bad news sent the Ethereum market down a lot. However, with the market becoming positive, Ethereum's market has started to change. But if the Bitcoin market is a little more positive, it will be seen that the Ethereum market has changed a lot. Of course I think Ethium is the best ALT coin.

I agree with you, there are many positive things Ethereum has displayed in the past that Cardano have never display them till now which is part of some of the advantage that will make many traders to choose Ethereum as their best coin in this new year. Ethereum teams are very active just to make both long term traders and short term traders feel good with their plan of achieving something special from their investment in the future, because they believed Ethereum will not allow other coins to take over their second position in the market.

That's true, and this type of discussion is only beneficial to cardano, because ETH gets no benefit from being compared to ADA, but when you compare ADA to ethereum, that means it does help it out a lot, it gives them a chance to basically keep on trying to beat ETH in any way or capacity. At the very least, even if it doesn't take the second spot, it could grow faster, ada going up 50% while ETH goes up 30% type of thing is what they are looking for.

This is why it's so much promoted, so that it would be liked by everyone at the same time. It's a sad situation to be in, but it's definitely a method of marketing for them to work on, and if they could convince enough people, why not be good enough.

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ethereum (ETH) or cardano (ADA) these two coins are good. If it is to be said for investment then ADA coin is best, because this coin has reduced in price at present, so if it is held then you can easily get 30x profit in bull market. Upwards of 8x-10x possible in ETH, because it seems to be going up and down at the same price for a long time. So I think Cardano (ADA) is better among these two

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There's a high possibility for Cardano to take over the top spot only if ETH will remain slow and expensive.
Its actually hard to tell because many are still using ETH network despite of the issues with the fees and the slower network. Honestly, I don't want to choose because I believe both of them have a bright future so better to hold both than to choose on which one is better, time can tell but for now ETH is still the top choice of many.

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I've come across reviews like this several times and the answer is clear to all.
Once again I will say that until whenever in the future it will be impossible for other Altcoins to be able to match or surpass ETH.
Even though the Altcoin has a good project in the future, it still won't be able to do it because ETH is the best Altcoin and has the 2nd top crypto position after Bitcoin.
I think only stupid people believe that Cardano or other Altcoins can match ETH.

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Cardano has a very slow development that actually they recently just have a working smart contract for there blockchain last year even there project exist for a long time. Cardano will never overtake Ethereum on the number 2 spot however it has a lot of room for price growth in the future since it’s price is not fully discovered yet compared to Ethereum. ADA has an advantage in terms of investment profitability but surely Ethereum will always be the number 2 on the ranking since its the father of smart contract blockchain.

Nothing can beat being the first mover in crypto.

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The biggest disadvantage of ETH is the high gas fee, once the gas fee is improved, I believe no one will be able to compete with ETH, and the transaction fee improvement is only a matter of time when the update is released this year. There have been many projects claiming to replace ETH, but so far, names like BNB, Sol, Dot, and Atom... have not been able to beat it. ADA also has a lot of potentials but thinking it can replace ETH is ambiguous, like someone saying ETH will replace bitcoin.

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Cardano is cardano and ethereum is ethereum. Cardano will not able to over take ethereum in any days. If cardano develops itself a lot in the next five years and strengthens its ecosystem, meanwhile Ethereum will develop itself a lot more. It's not that Ethereum won't think of their own development or that they won't think of something new for their blockchain. Ethereum is at least 5 years ahead of cardano. So cardano will never overtake ethereum in any days

Cardano will be like what other smartcontract platform is. NEO, WAVES, or EOS were used by a few developers with few projects on it. Still fighting for its existence and traded on exchanges. The ones that hold them though make money out of it for staking all the time and in the bear market, it's usually the first that will be dumped because stakers of ADA got their ADA for free.

They have thier own market and community so they are completely separate from the BTC community but many of us have some ADA though. I recently bought some just so I can also stake them.

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there are some altcoins that look like ETH killers and several people have asked questions like this a long time ago and in the end ETH remains the second best after bitcoin and no one has ever been able to kill or shift ETH position.
ETH was first present in the altcoin market and occupying the top spot in altcoins became the king of all altcoins and after that the appearance of Cardano which is currently being talked about and of course Cardano fans always think that Cardano can be an ETH killer, but that will not happen for I.
whatever is being talked about about the new blockchain that is being talked about and has a lot of fans, they will definitely have thoughts like this but remember, ETH has very strong power.

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Cardano is cardano and ethereum is ethereum. Cardano will not able to over take ethereum in any days. If cardano develops itself a lot in the next five years and strengthens its ecosystem, meanwhile Ethereum will develop itself a lot more. It's not that Ethereum won't think of their own development or that they won't think of something new for their blockchain. Ethereum is at least 5 years ahead of cardano. So cardano will never overtake ethereum in any days

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

I am not to familiar with the voltaire update of cardano and what new functionality it brings so it is hard for me to predict the effects of those upgrade but i can give my general view on the topic Cardano vs Ethereum. I still remember a few months ago, that Cardano pumped pretty heavily when they announced that the smart contract functionality is pretty close to being done. Since then though the price of Cardano has gone down pretty massively. That was again one good example for buy the rumor and sell the news.

For me tech-wise Ethereum will always be the project that enabled everything that we are having today, because they invented the smart contract functionality. All those other projects like Cardano, BSC, Solana just took that idea and tweaked it a bit.

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Quote from: Shobhikhan_007 on January 18, 2023, 09:26:26 PM

Cardano hype is done by youtubers. Past 2 years most of youtibers said cardano is the next eth killer. It will pass 30$ easily. But here are we. Just like xrp. Those altcoins are good for colcollectors not for someone need profits.

30 usd cardano? I don't think will be possible at all any time soon. The marketcap would be absolutely insane lol.

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Quote from: Why you bully me on January 16, 2023, 12:22:30 PM

Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

No.
Since when cardano has been launched? It had a lot of years to overtake ethereum and just as the heavy investors of it think about it, there's nothing new to this discussion because it's most unlikely not going to happen.

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on January 19, 2023, 07:45:45 AM

I think that this topic already outdated.

That's true, this is an old topic that's just being repeated and being asked again and again. Soon when the bull run comes, if it's not ADA, it will be another altcoin that will be asked if it can overtake bitcoin or ethereum.

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Quote from: Why you bully me on January 16, 2023, 12:22:30 PM

Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

I think that this topic already outdated. You were just repeating it once there are bunch of threads that already discussed about this before. I think that it's better if you are spending a few minutes in your life to dig the old thread. There's no reason for a to take b position.
Think about whether investing in ethereum or cardano can change your life or not.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on January 17, 2023, 09:23:23 PM

When comparing Ethereum vs Cardano, Ethereum definitely has the upper hand. I consider Ethereum as the most reliable coin after Bitcoin. Ethereum has developed their own platform a lot. Maybe a few days ago a bad news sent the Ethereum market down a lot. However, with the market becoming positive, Ethereum's market has started to change. But if the Bitcoin market is a little more positive, it will be seen that the Ethereum market has changed a lot. Of course I think Ethium is the best ALT coin.

Yes, that's because ETH went a lot of upgrades already but we never heard any latest updates with Cardano. Comparing them is only good if done on the past when both coins are still kinda new. I remember there are also other coins which was being compared with ETH. Coins such as Waves, Polkadot, Sol and Matic but ETH proves that it is much superior among them. It does not mean that those coins are now bad or we shall now avoid them.

We still can invest some of our money on them if we are into diversifying as those coins can still show a little growth especially when the bull run has arrived. Their devs might also roll out some updates which can greatly improve their coins.

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When comparing Ethereum vs Cardano, Ethereum definitely has the upper hand. I consider Ethereum as the most reliable coin after Bitcoin. Ethereum has developed their own platform a lot. Maybe a few days ago a bad news sent the Ethereum market down a lot. However, with the market becoming positive, Ethereum's market has started to change. But if the Bitcoin market is a little more positive, it will be seen that the Ethereum market has changed a lot. Of course I think Ethium is the best ALT coin.

I agree with you, there are many positive things Ethereum has displayed in the past that Cardano have never display them till now which is part of some of the advantage that will make many traders to choose Ethereum as their best coin in this new year. Ethereum teams are very active just to make both long term traders and short term traders feel good with their plan of achieving something special from their investment in the future, because they believed Ethereum will not allow other coins to take over their second position in the market.

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Cardano hype is done by youtubers. Past 2 years most of youtibers said cardano is the next eth killer. It will pass 30$ easily. But here are we. Just like xrp. Those altcoins are good for colcollectors not for someone need profits.

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Better in terms of what? If as an investment I think Ethereum would be more of a better candidate but if it is with fees (not sure tho') I think Cardano would be be one since it has a lower market value. Ethereum on the other hand is a huge network already from being used to most of the projects and transactions in this industry which makes it capable to withstand every downfall with the market prices and be able to recover afterwards. It has proven "itself" for years as being the next to Bitcoin, thus, this would be a mismatch to compare. Cardano is really promising but that won't make it a better cryptocurrency than ethereum. But these two are really a good investment.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

That's still hard to come by as Cardano needs more support to lift its price near Ethereum. Cardano is currently cheap and you can buy it in large quantities and store it for a long time. But we know that anything can happen so if Cardano can raise its price beyond $1 or even over $4, it will be a surprise for us because we certainly wouldn't expect it, especially if the price could go over $10. Currently, Ethereum is still number 2 in the market and still leads the altcoin position but who knows what will happen in the future.

I believe in the true bull market cardano should easily surpass 1 and 4 usd as that would be the old ath from previous bull market. The development that has happened since is a lot. New ath should be around 10 usd I believe in the next bull market.

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Quote from: Why you bully me on January 16, 2023, 12:22:30 PM

Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

That's still hard to come by as Cardano needs more support to lift its price near Ethereum. Cardano is currently cheap and you can buy it in large quantities and store it for a long time. But we know that anything can happen so if Cardano can raise its price beyond $1 or even over $4, it will be a surprise for us because we certainly wouldn't expect it, especially if the price could go over $10. Currently, Ethereum is still number 2 in the market and still leads the altcoin position but who knows what will happen in the future.

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Cardano can't come anywhere close to Ethereum. As for me, I will choose Ethereum over Cardano any day, any time.

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The value is just too far for ADA to race. But it has something to offer at least to the newcomers in crypto since it had some plans for easy migration of ERC tokens to bridge to the ADA network. It can't beat ETH but it does have its own pace.

ADA has been in the top 10 of the CMC for years and had definitely increased its value since. In this next bull cycle, we shall see more of its development because of Voltaire.

You are absolutely right that price of Cardano is too far from Ethereum, and its pace of development is also very slow compared to Ethereum. The total supply of Cardano is 45 billion which is huge, and there is no burning mechanism in place to reduce it to boost the price. the team is also planning to launch algorithmic stable coin (DJED) in first quarter of 2023 on Cardano block chain & it will be integrated with partners and decentralized exchanges which will reward users for providing liquidity. But the collapse of UST stable coin has created very negative perception about algorithmic stable coins. the acceptability of this stable coin in the market remains to be seen.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-to-launch-new-algorithmic-stablecoin-in-2023

So many users are very hyped about this Djed when there is already a stablecoin on ADA namely iUSD. It's synthetic but it does the job for trading after it's been added on Muesliswap, the volume had increased every day.

Why Djed is the awaited is just hyped but according to that article, Djed will be collateralized and backed by $SHEN. How is this a good thing?
I can see this falling apart like LUNA and maybe the reason for the next long bear market in the next cycle.

I agree that launch of stable coin is unlikely to result in bullish trend in Cardano coin, as it is generally viewd as a way to raise funds and is not seen as a positive development. The most important factor in my view, is use case of coin which is very strong in case of Ethereum. It is used in every sector of crypto industry, for creating smart contracts of alts, NFTs, metaverse, artificial intelligence & many mores.

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When comparing Ethereum vs Cardano, Ethereum definitely has the upper hand. I consider Ethereum as the most reliable coin after Bitcoin. Ethereum has developed their own platform a lot. Maybe a few days ago a bad news sent the Ethereum market down a lot. However, with the market becoming positive, Ethereum's market has started to change. But if the Bitcoin market is a little more positive, it will be seen that the Ethereum market has changed a lot. Of course I think Ethium is the best ALT coin.

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The value is just too far for ADA to race. But it has something to offer at least to the newcomers in crypto since it had some plans for easy migration of ERC tokens to bridge to the ADA network. It can't beat ETH but it does have its own pace.

ADA has been in the top 10 of the CMC for years and had definitely increased its value since. In this next bull cycle, we shall see more of its development because of Voltaire.

You are absolutely right that price of Cardano is too far from Ethereum, and its pace of development is also very slow compared to Ethereum. The total supply of Cardano is 45 billion which is huge, and there is no burning mechanism in place to reduce it to boost the price. the team is also planning to launch algorithmic stable coin (DJED) in first quarter of 2023 on Cardano block chain & it will be integrated with partners and decentralized exchanges which will reward users for providing liquidity. But the collapse of UST stable coin has created very negative perception about algorithmic stable coins. the acceptability of this stable coin in the market remains to be seen.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-to-launch-new-algorithmic-stablecoin-in-2023

So many users are very hyped about this Djed when there is already a stablecoin on ADA namely iUSD. It's synthetic but it does the job for trading after it's been added on Muesliswap, the volume had increased every day.

Why Djed is the awaited is just hyped but according to that article, Djed will be collateralized and backed by $SHEN. How is this a good thing?
I can see this falling apart like LUNA and maybe the reason for the next long bear market in the next cycle.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 17, 2023, 10:59:38 AM

The value is just too far for ADA to race. But it has something to offer at least to the newcomers in crypto since it had some plans for easy migration of ERC tokens to bridge to the ADA network. It can't beat ETH but it does have its own pace.

ADA has been in the top 10 of the CMC for years and had definitely increased its value since. In this next bull cycle, we shall see more of its development because of Voltaire.

You are absolutely right that price of Cardano is too far from Ethereum, and its pace of development is also very slow compared to Ethereum. The total supply of Cardano is 45 billion which is huge, and there is no burning mechanism in place to reduce it to boost the price. the team is also planning to launch algorithmic stable coin (DJED) in first quarter of 2023 on Cardano block chain & it will be integrated with partners and decentralized exchanges which will reward users for providing liquidity. However, the failure of UST stable coin has led to negative perception about algorithmic stable coins, and it remains to be seen, how well this stable coin is received in the market.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-to-launch-new-algorithmic-stablecoin-in-2023

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The value is just too far for ADA to race. But it has something to offer at least to the newcomers in crypto since it had some plans for easy migration of ERC tokens to bridge to the ADA network. It can't beat ETH but it does have its own pace.

ADA has been in the top 10 of the CMC for years and had definitely increased its value since. In this next bull cycle, we shall see more of its development because of Voltaire.

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it's just difficult in killing eth, even though ada has shown quite good progression regardless I'm sure eth will just stay the second highest coin, even the conversion will be quite mundane, I think ada should worry about matic and solana first before talking about killing ethereum because they seems pose more threat against ada in term of market value and capitalization.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

Though Cardano is one of the most decentralized and secure network , with ongoing development and new partnership are being formed, but it is unlikely that it can challenge leading role of crypto in the near future. The pace of development on Ethereum is outstanding with largest number of developers worldwide, which no other network can match. That is why Ethereum is always first choice of high profile projects to launch on.

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Yeah, but you have to understand that Charles Hoskinson was once the developer of ETH too, so at some point he knows what he is doing and perhaps looking at his competitor and whatnot. Or having his own roadmap for this project. And if I'm not mistaken, he continue to developed ADA and he keeps on giving us update as much as he can in social medias.

Yeah, i understand that he is one of the founders it but it doesn't change what i said. I just think that people have been overestimating his skills as somekind of renaissance man. He has however lots of funds to hire talented developers for him. And i know for a fact that some of the most talented ones have rejected his offer of ludicrous amount of money because they see his goals uninspirational and even futile.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 16, 2023, 06:42:12 PM

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Though these both cryptocurrencies have the same network POS system I think Ethereum will always remain in the second position in the market.
But they've different purposes, ADA is the monetary transactions and support for smart contracts while ETH stand-alone with smart contract support which is only a single layer of managing the smart contract and the dApp. This is many, many projects are preferred to use ETH because it focused on one purpose of decentralization.

How many coins that competing with ETH or considering an ETH killer? But none of them has succeeded.
My vote is still on ETH but ADA is also still useful.

it will be a long way to go before another network will surpass ETH network. that is true, how many networks have been created to kill ETH but none of them so far has attained the same popularity of ETH. i believe the advantage of ETH is that it is backed by a known dev, Buterin, who is still sincere in developing its network to serve better the whole community. maybe, if his dev team will stop innovating, that's when a new network will overcome ETH's popularity.

It will be difficult for sure if a network is targeted to kill the Ethereum network,
it's not an easy job and there will be difficulties too,
Ethereum has a good team and they are continuously developing.

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Well, if Vitalik will reduce the fees as he promised, then Cardano has no chance.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on January 16, 2023, 03:32:26 PM

Cardano is a lot cheaper than ETH so we may see newbies decide that Cardano is a better option for them than ETH. I think both will do really well in the next bull run but if I had to pick one to invest in right now I would pick Cardano.

I think ETH could do a 10 to 15 x increase in price in the next big bull market but Cardano has a higher ceiling, maybe it could easily do 100 x increase.

You think over 1t marketcap is reasonable for both coins? 100x on cardano seems too much but maybe perhaps 10x on eth as how popular it is.

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I think, Ethereum will be favourable in both long term and short term trading in this season than Cardano, because Ethereum is still maintaining the second position among other cryptocurrencies which is part of some of the things that made many traders to prefer to invest more on Ethereum than any other coins in the community. I don't think, Cardano is more popular than Ethereum because looking at the population around Ethereum showed that Ethereum teams are very active to give their investors what they want at the end of their investments.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year.

If Cardano is actually good, their team don't have to name their project as an Ethereum killer. Any project want to define themselves like this won't succeed to kill Ethereum. They tried to use a noisy name to PR their projects and attract investors.

Ethereum is a biggest alternate cryptocurrency project and it has a solid position in top of cryptocurrency market many years. Cardano has to succeed many more years to closely touch Ethereum on top of market ranking table. Beating Ethereum, killing Ethereum is impossible for Cardano.

Developers always promise a lot with their innovative technologies but you must wait months and years to see how their technologies perform in reality.

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Cardano, Solana, Aptos... There are so many alternatives to Ethereum that they become a bunch of altcoins we can't exactly differentiate one from each other, while Ethereum remains where it is, in evidence, and there isn't any signal this is going to change soon. Investors have developed a strong bond with Ethereum, similar to the even stronger bond they have with Bitcoin. That is not the kind of thing rival altcoins easily break. Even expensive gas fees weren't enough to decrease ETH's popularity.

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This competition is already aged. I believe that Cardano is already far from Ethereum a long time ago, even Cardano (ADA) was created before. Even before, there are already a lot of issues with Cardano before, and a lot of people telling also that Cardano is because of smart contracts even though Cardano is already here a long time ago but there are still no working or real products.

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Quote from: sheenshane on January 16, 2023, 06:35:07 PM

Though these both cryptocurrencies have the same network POS system I think Ethereum will always remain in the second position in the market.
But they've different purposes, ADA is the monetary transactions and support for smart contracts while ETH stand-alone with smart contract support which is only a single layer of managing the smart contract and the dApp. This is many, many projects are preferred to use ETH because it focused on one purpose of decentralization.

How many coins that competing with ETH or considering an ETH killer? But none of them has succeeded.
My vote is still on ETH but ADA is also still useful.

it will be a long way to go before another network will surpass ETH network. that is true, how many networks have been created to kill ETH but none of them so far has attained the same popularity of ETH. i believe the advantage of ETH is that it is backed by a known dev, Buterin, who is still sincere in developing its network to serve better the whole community. maybe, if his dev team will stop innovating, that's when a new network will overcome ETH's popularity.

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Though these both cryptocurrencies have the same network POS system I think Ethereum will always remain in the second position in the market.
But they've different purposes, ADA is the monetary transactions and support for smart contracts while ETH stand-alone with smart contract support which is only a single layer of managing the smart contract and the dApp. This is many, many projects are preferred to use ETH because it focused on one purpose of decentralization.

How many coins that competing with ETH or considering an ETH killer? But none of them has succeeded.
My vote is still on ETH but ADA is also still useful.

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even if erc20 converter was succesfully made, doesn't necessarily means people would just migrate over, but if eth didn't solve its high gas fee, then i'm sure people would have no choice but to migrate over to ada, there are many features that said to be eth killer by many smart contract coins yet eth still standing strong until this day, only time will show whether ada could really kill eth in the future.
even though i'm sure that eth will just hold its position as 2nd because frankly there are simply too many projects that are generally good quality ones in eth and eth itself is already being considered as btc alternative in term of investment therefore it gonna get 2nd most of the investment flow.

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Do you think cardano will over take ethereum in terms of tech with voltaire being worked on this year. Along with erc20 converter for easy conversion to cardano via ethereum. Cheesy

No, eth has ton of development too and truth to be told Charles Hoskinson doesn't seem that smart. I mean he is smart but compared to ETH dev team he seems like he has impossible mission ahead him.
Ad then there are the devs, ETH has the lead and devs who want to make money stay on the chain that has most users for their tech.

Yeah, but you have to understand that Charles Hoskinson was once the developer of ETH too, so at some point he knows what he is doing and perhaps looking at his competitor and whatnot. Or having his own roadmap for this project. And if I'm not mistaken, he continue to developed ADA and he keeps on giving us update as much as he can in social medias.

Quote from: o48o on January 16, 2023, 05:44:26 PM

ADA and almost every altcoin out there has been predicted to be an ETH killer, but somehow people don't understand that eth doesn't need to be killed. If someone has a new approach they can just do that. ETH and BTC can live side by side as they are not killing each other. They are doing somehing completely different. So it should be with newcomers. They should be fixing something ETH or BTC isn't fixing. Visionaries are building new things. They aren't next anything, they are themselves that others want to be next.

I do believed that there will be no ETH killer, we have heard this since 2017 and we haven't seen one even getting closer to ETH as far as the pricing goes. If this is the gauge for being a ETH killer. There are a lot of good alternatives though, but it seems that investors are just on the safe side. Putting their money on the prime movers like ETH and let their money grow.

But I wouldn't say that ADA is a bad investment, it could give 10x or higher this next bull run, I speculate.

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I think ETH will still remain the number two cryptocurrency, You have got to understand too when it comes to adoption, it's way ahead of Cardano and now that it has gone POS, even possible Ethereum killers like Solana, Poldadot, Ada etc won't be able to overthrow ETH. Ethereum's weakest point was probably the ridiculously high transaction fees during the bull markets.

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Quote from: Why you bully me on January 16, 2023, 12:22:30 PM

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No, eth has ton of development too and truth to be told Charles Hoskinson doesn't seem that smart. I mean he is smart but compared to ETH dev team he seems like he has impossible mission ahead him.
Ad then there are the devs, ETH has the lead and devs who want to make money stay on the chain that has most users for their tech.

ADA and almost every altcoin out there has been predicted to be an ETH killer, but somehow people don't understand that eth doesn't need to be killed. If someone has a new approach they can just do that. ETH and BTC can live side by side as they are not killing each other. They are doing somehing completely different. So it should be with newcomers. They should be fixing something ETH or BTC isn't fixing. Visionaries are building new things. They aren't next anything, they are themselves that others want to be next.

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Cardano is a lot cheaper than ETH so we may see newbies decide that Cardano is a better option for them than ETH. I think both will do really well in the next bull run but if I had to pick one to invest in right now I would pick Cardano.

I think ETH could do a 10 to 15 x increase in price in the next big bull market but Cardano has a higher ceiling, maybe it could easily do 100 x increase.

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