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Topic: Etheriya lead "Iam2Good" and team member "Visale" ( Etheriya bounty campaign) (Read 1912 times)

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Flag on Jamal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=712. More details: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jamalaezaz-is-cheating-icos-and-bounty-hunters-with-proof-3149900. I thank him for bringing this case up again by maliciously attacking me in another thread. Smiley
Apparently they have an alt account which I somehow forgot to address: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/teamjamal-1836157.
Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1541

Reading others having issues with him is no surprise. I guess the best I can do is add my support to the flag and hope others stay away from anything that he proposes.
We will do the best that we can!
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Flag on Jamal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=712. More details: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jamalaezaz-is-cheating-icos-and-bounty-hunters-with-proof-3149900. I thank him for bringing this case up again by maliciously attacking me in another thread. Smiley


I had to add my support here.

I already left appropriate Trust for Jamalaezaz a long time ago after I saw his failure tom act and protect bounty participants for TokenPay. The bulk of the fault for non-payment lay directly with Jamalaezaz.

Reading others having issues with him is no surprise. I guess the best I can do is add my support to the flag and hope others stay away from anything that he proposes.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you

Hi Iam2Good,

Glad we can agree upon this, please use 0xF29A7DcC0F066BD9BCffFe6BCfF0747A8D87DCe0 for the transaction.

Thank you, I'll adjust the first post once all is completed, as in good faith, i've removed my negative trust rating for Visale and yourself.



      Payment sent,  check transaction details here  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x360100ee038f5f9e9f7463629286608d6460643b1e2ce79b65d0ff79118eba3a


       Please endeavor to remove all negative rating on profile and Etheriya thread.

First post has been adjusted.

@Lauda, please re-asses your trust review on this case, as the issue between me and iam2good is resolved in mutual agreement.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you

Hi Iam2Good,

Glad we can agree upon this, please use 0xF29A7DcC0F066BD9BCffFe6BCfF0747A8D87DCe0 for the transaction.

Thank you, I'll adjust the first post once all is completed, as in good faith, i've removed my negative trust rating for Visale and yourself.

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Iam2Good( also represented Visale ) and myself have found an solution to this. In my opinion this is resolved.



_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________




Hi guys,

Never ever have I hoped to be required to do this, but as it seems "Iam2Good" and Etheriya team member "Visale" have decided to just ignore request and messages about unpaid bounty's and keep on doing their regular activities.

Please see the following post a fellow bounty translator member has made on their topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23444262

Bounty thread is locked, after claiming to have sent out to everyone ( except the translators )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1983388.1060


As several attempts into discussing this has always lead to being ignored or just claims or not willing to, besides accusation of not updating the thread often enough ( claimed to demand this daily, where this is not visible in the thread).  Even the accusation was made to jamalaezaz that he did not sent in any details about the translations ( I have to say I was quite annoyed that during the campaign he vanished and thus we never received any information about the campaign ).

I did receive message from the other campaign leader "Avirunes" that they were asked to cease counting the stakes on the campaign..  ( I won't post the pm's, or Avirunes will have to agree upon this.).


Total involved for me personal is 2500 riya as the payment was 2500 stakes, which ended on 1 stake = 1 riya ( see link )
This results in current market value of 3000 USD


This has been given more then enough time to be dealt with on a proper way, yet being treated with silence or accuses of not updating daily ( where there was no demand to update daily ), has led me to believe that no one in the team of Etheriya is even interested in talk with me or other unpaid translators.

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[10:23:57 AM] Jessica:
If you don't mind, Can you give me a chance to handle the campaign?
 It's okay if you don't*
 You've nothing to lose

[10:25:27 AM] Jamal:
And you have a lot to lose?

[10:26:00 AM] Jamal:
Forwarded message: Jamal Aezaz [12/26/17]
I'll give you lots of ethereum wallets and name of project.  Then it's your work to make sure everyone join the altcoin bounty using my address and complete his required posts.

[10:26:59 AM] Jessica:
I will make sure that happens
 Thankyou :purple_heart:

[11:37:34 AM] Jessica:
When will the campaign start?

[11:40:07 AM] Jamal:
Lets start it now.
 Can you make spreadsheets?

[11:40:19 AM] Jessica:
I Can
 Will I get paid extra for managing it?

[11:40:44 AM] Jamal:
Of course.
 Make a spreadsheet and add all users details there.
 Username. Profile link. Rank. BTC address

[11:42:24 AM] Jessica:
Sure, I'll do that in a bit
 Weekly payments, Right?

[11:53:17 AM] Jamal:
Just get the details first. I'll think about payment shortly.
 I'm still not sure which payment terms would be better.

[11:55:01 AM] Jessica:
I guess people might not want to join till they now how much and when they are gonna get paid
 I will make the spreadsheet in a few minutes, I'm in bank right now

[1:50:33 PM] Jessica:
Hey there?
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1te8Xa4E3MzkciXtkc1LWy93mlvl3LDCWob5FZQQaObU/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs
Jamal Aezaz Campaign
Sheet1

Bitcointalk Username, Bitcointalk Profile URL, Telegram Username, Bitcointalk Rank, Bitcoin Address, Amount Pending
 Looks Good?

[2:45:51 PM] Jamal:
Can you send me the access?

[2:46:21 PM] Jessica:
Sure, What's your email?

[2:49:37 PM] Jamal:
[email protected]

[2:50:14 PM] Jessica:
I just gave you access

[8:16:03 PM] Jessica:
Any Updates?

--- Wednesday, December 27, 2017 ---

[1:40:20 AM] Jamal:
I can't see any update yet.
 I think you cannot do it
 I asked you to collect all details but you just sent me the empty sheet?

[10:19:17 AM] Jessica:
You didn't update with the terms of the campaign yet
 How can I ask people for details when the campaign is itself unclear on how it's going to work

[10:21:18 AM] Jamal:
Yeah that's right

[10:23:19 AM] Jessica:
So what did you decide about it? The terms?

[12:51:21 PM] Jessica:
??

[7:38:17 PM] Jamal:
Hi

[7:39:46 PM] Jessica:
Hi
 What's Up?

--- Thursday, December 28, 2017 ---

[9:11:35 PM] Jamal:
Hi
 Do you have Skype?

[9:14:57 PM] Jessica:
Hi
 I used to have it, Uninstalled it
 What for?

[11:24:04 PM] Jamal:
To contact you

[11:29:41 PM] Jessica:
We are already in contact over Telegram ;)

[11:30:39 PM] Jamal:
I have telegram on mobile only so not comfortable.

[11:31:13 PM] Jessica:
Okay, I will install Skype again

[11:35:10 PM] Jamal:
https://medium.com/@jamalaezaz/join-an-altcoin-sigcamp-and-get-paid-in-btc-12c67f5341a0
Medium
Join an Altcoin SigCamp and Get Paid in BTC
Hi Guys! here I am writing the whole terms and Conditions and requirements to get paid in BTC to join an altcoin Bounty Campaign.
 BTW.  I've wrote this.

[11:40:07 PM] Jessica:
Sounds good, Why did you skip the idea of weekly payment? It would attract much more participation.

--- Friday, December 29, 2017 ---

[12:58:59 PM] Jessica:
Hey there? A guy is asking if he can join the campaign from two different accounts, Is it allowed?

[1:17:59 PM] Jamal:
Yes but he have to join 2 different altcoin bounties.  Because joining same campaign with 2 account is against the forum and bounty rules.

[1:20:58 PM] Jessica:
I'll update him about this.
 Logan is asking if he can get weekly payment for the campaign
 This is his profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=93844

[3:08:43 PM] Jessica:
Can you tell me how much will I get paid for managing the campaign?

[4:30:15 PM] Jamal:
5%

[4:33:38 PM] Jessica:
5% of what

[4:37:41 PM] Jamal:
No more available slots for now. We'll increase it when we get good projects . Please announce it.

[4:54:29 PM] Jamal:
> Jessica Reily
> 5% of what
Of whatever all participants receive

[4:55:16 PM] Jessica:
Can you pay me weekly in advance for managing the campaign?
 Total divided by 4.

[5:39:04 PM] Jamal:
How could we know the total?

[5:42:02 PM] Jessica:
We can calculate the total easily, why can't we? We know how many members are in there right, and how much we are paying them for a month
 If incase someone leaves in between, You can deduct his pay from my pay in the last week.

[5:50:06 PM] Jamal:
Ok.

[5:52:46 PM] Jessica:
I'll calculate the total and will let you know, Just a moment
 Total sums up to -> $2200
 5% of it is $110
 This is excluding the extra 5% bonus which we can adjust after the Campaign ends.
 $110 divided into 4 weeks = $27.5 per week in Advance
 Is that Okay?

[6:00:53 PM] Jamal:
So what should I do?

[6:01:10 PM] Jessica:
Do you mind paying me weekly for managing the campaign?
 I will keep a check regularly on members who haven't posted the min. required posts and whose post quality isn't upto the mark
 You won't get a chance to complain

[6:04:33 PM] Jamal:
Ok.

[6:24:18 PM] Jessica:
Can you make me the Admin of the group?
 Please give me your Skype ID

[6:57:30 PM] Jamal:
LABZANK

--- Saturday, December 30, 2017 ---

[3:13:16 PM] Jamal:
Accept bittrafic .

[4:33:05 PM] Jessica:
What?

[4:41:08 PM] Jamal:
Forwarded message: Jamal Aezaz [12/30/17]
Accept bittrafic .

[4:49:55 PM] Jessica:
Oh okay

[6:01:50 PM] Jessica:
You want to me to add Bittrafic in the campaign?

[7:26:19 PM] Jamal:
Yes ma'am.

[7:26:54 PM] Jessica:
When does the campaign start?
 No one with that name is in the group : bittrafic

[7:30:13 PM] Jamal:
> Jessica Reily
> No one with that name is in the group : bittrafic
I think he have another username.

[7:31:17 PM] Jessica:
Update me with his username!

--- Sunday, December 31, 2017 ---

[11:32:03 AM] Jessica:
I have added one more Hero Member you asked for, The slots are full now, right?

[11:35:35 AM] Jamal:
No. Add 2 more.

[11:35:46 AM] Jessica:
Ranks?
 I am receiving messages of people asking about the campaign they have to join, When will you update about it?

[12:08:45 PM] Jessica:
Which ranks should I accept?

[12:21:58 PM] Jamal:
Hero

[2:56:15 PM] Jessica:
Hey Jamal did you think about my proposal of payment
 For managing and keeping a check on everyone throughout the campaign

[3:24:52 PM] Jamal:
> Jessica Reily
> For managing and keeping a check on everyone throughout the campaign
Yes. We agreed for 5%. Right?

[3:32:06 PM] Jessica:
Yes we did, But 5% weekly advance payment
 Can you do that please?

[3:32:29 PM] Jamal:
You mean now?

[3:40:08 PM] Jessica:
Yes, 5% of Total divided by 4.
 Every week

[3:40:54 PM] Jamal:
OK.  I'll pay you weekly along with the weekly paying users.

[3:41:37 PM] Jessica:
Great

[6:56:42 PM] Jessica:
Hey, You have assigned Both accounts of Jayesh in same campaign

[7:00:05 PM] Jamal:
Can you charge?

[7:00:20 PM] Jessica:
You mean change?
 I'll do that

[7:47:31 PM] Jamal:
You have to contact everyone and make sure they join the  bounty.

[7:47:48 PM] Jessica:
I'll do that

[7:47:59 PM] Jamal:
And always be careful and don't let them change their wallets in bounties.
 If they do that they'll be banned

[7:48:39 PM] Jessica:
I'll keep a check on that

--- Monday, January 1, 2018 ---

[5:29:29 PM] Jamal:
What is your forum name?

[5:31:41 PM] Jessica:
CyberR.

[5:38:53 PM] Jamal:
Can you follow the thread and PM those interested users?
 Get their details.  And add them in spreadsheet.

[7:15:07 PM] Jessica:
I'll do that :)
 Will inform you once done, How many more slots are available?

--- Tuesday, January 2, 2018 ---

[12:31:48 AM] Jessica:
Can you give me the thread link please? I can't find it

[12:47:22 AM] Jessica:
Nevermind, I got it, PMing everyone now

[3:17:56 PM] Jessica:
Hey, I have got 4-5 applications
 I'll update the spreadsheet in a while
 Travelling back home

[5:51:33 PM] Jessica:
Hey I have update the list with more participants, please assign them campaigns. Also, I have messaged those members who haven't yet put up signatures. They have been warned, If I don't get a reply in a day, Please remove them from the campaign.
 Also, Kick Pacayra

--- Wednesday, January 3, 2018 ---

[8:57:06 AM] Jessica:
Hey, Two members who have already been assigned a campaign have said they don't want to participate anymore
 What to do?

[11:30:42 PM] Jamal:
Remove them and add new members.

--- Friday, January 5, 2018 ---

[1:02:00 AM] Jamal:
Hi

[1:02:10 AM] Jessica:
Hi

[8:03:29 AM] Jessica:
How have you been
 I have got replies of people whom I sent pm, should I tell them that no slots are left?

[11:10:36 AM] Jamal:
I've updated the sheet.
 Please inform everyone and make sure they must join the bounty today.  It's last day today.

[12:32:04 PM] Jessica:
Okay, Doing that now

--- Saturday, January 6, 2018 ---

[12:31:01 AM] Jamal:
Are they joined?

[12:32:00 AM] Jessica:
Yessir, They were all informed. I'll check the status now and update you
 Give me 5 minutes
 Everyone except 3 have joined, I will give them last reminder.
 Also two members have already called themselves off, I have written not joined next totheir name
 And all the new guys have joined some AIDA Service campaign, is that correct?

[12:41:51 AM] Jamal:
Aida services?

[12:42:04 AM] Jessica:
Yes

[12:42:12 AM] Jamal:
Link please.

[12:44:00 AM] Jessica:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880374
 see his profile
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664813.msg27183199#msg27183199

[12:47:22 AM] Jamal:
No. It's not provided by me.

[12:48:19 AM] Jessica:
I have written Not Joined next to all defaulters

--- Sunday, January 7, 2018 ---

[1:40:13 PM] Jessica:
Weekly payments need to be sent out today, Should I calculate and tell you?

[6:32:59 PM] Jamal:
Yes please.

[7:03:48 PM] Jessica:
Okay
 Wait

[8:36:29 PM] Jessica:
Legendster = $250/4 = $62.5 -> 19zNeBtpQSsBQZPivncHPyxF5YxrQTJbNL
Soham = $200/4 = $50 -> 1HpWr5eqQhX7rPN23YgoSY2KqS9XPETzGs

[8:46:39 PM] Jamal:
And your details?

[8:46:42 PM] Jessica:
are you covering the fees?
 My Address is 1BT21LbS9DLNiBZpfjBhXdDtGN4hHRHXYv

[8:47:01 PM] Jamal:
Can you send these details to me via Skype?

[8:47:15 PM] Jessica:
I already did :blush:

[10:18:52 PM] Jessica:
Some people just asked me if there's any spot left.
 Should I replace inactive ones with them?

[10:38:44 PM] Jamal:
No now.

[10:39:01 PM] Jessica:
What?

This is whole chat with him on Telegram till date.
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@Lauda

Accounts connected: jamalaezaz (uuid = 721115), SmartIphone (uuid = 374823), ShooterXD (uuid = 819403), BitFinnese (uuid = 860327).
CyberR, aka @EveKilledAdam (https://archive.fo/xFp3U#selection-553.2-553.15), aka Jessica Reily, has been knowingly working for/with jamalaezaz, and SmartIphone.
The user has kept quiet regarding the shady activities of the former (account trading, farming, and trust farming: see reference rating https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=721115), as well the latter who is involved in a scam accusation (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-manager-smartiphone-and-sam-discussion-of-the-thread-centra-2553092).

It is also likely that this user is managing or helping manage Jamal's signature group involved in farming and spamming.


First of all, I didn't know about this thread, Secondly, I am not his alt. Thirdly, I am working for Jamal because he was looking for a campaign manager and I am getting paid for doing so.
I got proofs for it.




Take a look and please remove the negative feedback Smiley

I was* working with Jamal, Have never talked to SmartIphone. I don't check Scam Accusation thread often and all my conversations with Jamal were on Telegram and Skype, so I didn't get a chance to look at his profile. Giving negative feedback for ignoring a scam accusation thread, really?  Roll Eyes
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Im sorry to say Iam2good, but leaving me with a neg rep just because you feel that it is my fault someone gave u negative rep, based on the conversation that took place in this topic.. Well I did ask Lauda to re-asses his opinion, as the direct issue with me is resolved, but it seems that, me publicly asking this is not enough for you.

Lauda and Avirunes have their right to their opinion , just like anyone else that reads this topic, so asking someone to re-asses their opinion on a subject is all there is for a person to do.

Please leave that neg rep on me ( next to it being a "if you don't do this for me then I won't remove it" scam), as it will direct people to this topic, where this is the full standing proof that I am human, I am able to agree upon my mistakes, I am willing to settle an issue and I am even willing to step out of my zone and ask a third person to re-asses his opinion.

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  I am sorry i had to post negative rating  for Whoeir, Avirunes and Lauda because it is an injustice to leave negative rating on my profile even when all issues were resolved.

Keep posting as much as you like now or keep negging us all day long.

My negative rating is still accurate and I don't plan to remove it so No!!. I might change the content but it doesn't changes the fact that you are still a scammer famous for making payment late or process payment when DT comes into action or maybe sometimes you have skipped paying some (who knows).

Recent retaliatory feedback to Lauda and whoeier is a showcase of your character which shouldn't be trusted in the community so maybe you need to hear my answer again-" No!!!"



I don't deny the fact that I didn't did the work but I was about to going to work on it and when it was the time to fix things then you rejected it by yourself.


    Thank you for that acknowledgement.


 You can continue to Buzz if you don't have meaningful work to do. It is clear  that at least i have taken steps to right my wrongs but you acknowledge you did'nt do the work you are asked to do but want to be paid for , so who is a Scammer? If you care you can continue to narrate a tale to the community that you are a trusted and reputable member all round the clock.
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  I am sorry i had to post negative rating  for Whoeir, Avirunes and Lauda because it is an injustice to leave negative rating on my profile even when all issues were resolved.

Keep posting as much as you like now or keep negging us all day long.

My negative rating is still accurate and I don't plan to remove it so No!!. I might change the content but it doesn't changes the fact that you are still a scammer famous for making payment late or process payment when DT comes into action or maybe sometimes you have skipped paying some (who knows).

Recent retaliatory feedback to Lauda and whoeier is a showcase of your character which shouldn't be trusted in the community so maybe you need to hear my answer again-" No!!!"
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I hereby plead you to kindly remove your negative rating from my profile.
Nothing will be removed. You are a scammer. Stop spamming already.

I am sorry i had to post negative rating  for Whoeir, Avirunes and Lauda because it is an injustice to leave negative rating on my profile even when all issues were resolved.
Maybe we should look into all team members from Etheriya now. Roll Eyes


     When i sent you plea and posted here you refused to reply, is that how you do your judgement with bias? I so much respected you and your work but i was disappointed in you when you chose to act with injustice.
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Terminated.
I hereby plead you to kindly remove your negative rating from my profile.
Nothing will be removed. You are a scammer. Stop spamming already.

I am sorry i had to post negative rating  for Whoeir, Avirunes and Lauda because it is an injustice to leave negative rating on my profile even when all issues were resolved.
Maybe we should look into all team members from Etheriya now. Roll Eyes
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   I am sorry i had to post negative rating  for Whoeir, Avirunes and Lauda because it is an injustice to leave negative rating on my profile even when all issues were resolved.
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Dear Lauda and Avirunes,


      I have taken time to resolve all issues both for iam2good and niceman4you, you can check the thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tweet-and-facebook-post-earn-050-to-2-this-promotion-is-closed-1626643 for details.


        I believe since i was able to resolve all issues i should be consider as having positive mindset to avoid all future occurence.


      I hereby plead you to kindly remove your negative rating from my profile.


               Thank you for Understanding
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Terminated.
@Lauda, please re-asses your trust review on this case, as the issue between me and iam2good is resolved in mutual agreement.
No. He got the trust that he deserved. Both of you need to learn how to read.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you

Hi Iam2Good,

Glad we can agree upon this, please use 0xF29A7DcC0F066BD9BCffFe6BCfF0747A8D87DCe0 for the transaction.

Thank you, I'll adjust the first post once all is completed, as in good faith, i've removed my negative trust rating for Visale and yourself.



      Payment sent,  check transaction details here  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x360100ee038f5f9e9f7463629286608d6460643b1e2ce79b65d0ff79118eba3a


       Please endeavor to remove all negative rating on profile and Etheriya thread.

First post has been adjusted.

@Lauda, please re-asses your trust review on this case, as the issue between me and iam2good is resolved in mutual agreement.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you

Hi Iam2Good,

Glad we can agree upon this, please use 0xF29A7DcC0F066BD9BCffFe6BCfF0747A8D87DCe0 for the transaction.

Thank you, I'll adjust the first post once all is completed, as in good faith, i've removed my negative trust rating for Visale and yourself.



      Payment sent,  check transaction details here  https://etherscan.io/tx/0x360100ee038f5f9e9f7463629286608d6460643b1e2ce79b65d0ff79118eba3a


       Please endeavor to remove all negative rating on profile and Etheriya thread.
legendary
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Terminated.
jamalaezaz and Iam2Good have been accordingly tagged. I consider this case resolved (if you can consider such an ending as *resolution*). Unless you have some other concerns that you'd like addressed, I will probably not respond here anymore.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you

Hi Iam2Good,

Glad we can agree upon this, please use 0xF29A7DcC0F066BD9BCffFe6BCfF0747A8D87DCe0 for the transaction.

Thank you, I'll adjust the first post once all is completed, as in good faith, i've removed my negative trust rating for Visale and yourself.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.




       I so much appreciate this your reply and i will offer 400 RIYA to you, please post RIYA address or an Ethereum ERC2.0 compatible wallet to which you want me send the token to.


       Thank you
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you

Iam2good,

If 450 is the max amount you have paid out to any participant, then I'll accept halfway on it. We all made mistakes and I'm not going to deny that. Yet our valuation of what work is important and what not, is different.

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I don't deny the fact that I didn't did the work but I was about to going to work on it and when it was the time to fix things then you rejected it by yourself.


    Thank you for that acknowledgement.
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Whoeir,  none among the bounty participants was paid more than 450 RIYA despite the huge contribution they make and don't think you should be the only one to receive that payment. Please let's come to a term and I will pay you right away.

       Thank you
legendary
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I don't deny the fact that I didn't did the work but I was about to going to work on it and when it was the time to fix things then you rejected it by yourself.
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 Dear Lauda,
     
     I am here for serious business and will surely offer them. If I an a scammer I would have been off by now because I have had enough. I want to assure you that all pending debt for niceman4you and that Whoeir would be settled in 24 hour. Hope that would solve all problems.
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Dear Lauda,

    I want to believe enough evidence has been provided to get this issue resolve and your negative rating off my profile.


      Thank you for understanding

Let me get something for ya.


Iam2good posts address


And,


Archive: http://archive.is/wP8UC (Both posts are on same page)

Now 3HiTYfeHzJgoSHpueCg5AXRepQgX5CgnRU was posted by niceman4you

Now if you check trust wall of niceman4you here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=892807

He has quite sort of red-reputation for asking loans without valid collateral and scamming participants of Twitter and Facebook campaign here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tweet-and-facebook-post-earn-050-to-2-this-promotion-is-closed-1626643 (Archive: http://archive.is/QCWEH)

31wvHCarJnubWqzcminwXUPKJzBkoNfLN6 was used by quickdeal here (Archive: http://archive.is/jPsX7)

Coins started by this guy: Linda coin, Coinonat, Etheriya. All without any objective I.e worthless coins.



Feel free to come with more excuses or call for lauda

    You can dig deep to bring record where I was asking for loan and offering my Facebook page and blog as collateral for  about $20 dollar loan but you cannot dig deep to bring the record where I offered article services and was where I earned thousands of dollars, right ? You are only digging the negative. Whether you like it or not I will still repeat that you did not do the work I asked you to do and it's clear.
legendary
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Dear Lauda,

    I want to believe enough evidence has been provided to get this issue resolve and your negative rating off my profile.


      Thank you for understanding

Let me get something for ya.


Iam2good posts address


And,


Archive: http://archive.is/wP8UC (Both posts are on same page)

Now 3HiTYfeHzJgoSHpueCg5AXRepQgX5CgnRU was posted by niceman4you

Now if you check trust wall of niceman4you here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=892807

He has quite sort of red-reputation for asking loans without valid collateral and scamming participants of Twitter and Facebook campaign here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tweet-and-facebook-post-earn-050-to-2-this-promotion-is-closed-1626643 (Archive: http://archive.is/QCWEH)

31wvHCarJnubWqzcminwXUPKJzBkoNfLN6 was used by quickdeal here (Archive: http://archive.is/jPsX7)

Coins started by this guy: Linda coin, Coinonat, Etheriya. All without any objective I.e worthless coins.



Feel free to come with more excuses or call for lauda
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And to you Whoeir, all i owe you is 50 RIYA which is clearly indicated in the last message I sent you which had it been you replied I would have sent your tokens to, so I am still waiting to receive an ERC 2.0 token compatible wallet to send that 50 RIYA token to you. And when I send your token please remove all negative posts and rating from my thread and profile.

      I want to believe you will understand this.


        Thank you

The wallet was already posted before on the topic when u requested a verification.

Look I disagree with your reasoning and that is been made clear by me. In my opinion I did 75% of the work, because, posting worthless information to a topic is of way less value then translating a full campaign.

I agree that we both may have made mistakes, but saying that a translation of a whitepaper and ann-thread is worth 1/50th, is the reason why we are still in full disagree.

In my opinion you owe me more then what your claiming and in my opinion your reasoning is just a simple thing to tell me to fuck off.

We can disagree on all standings, it will simply mean we move on from this point and leave it by what it is. Those that read this topic can freely decide for them self if they share my opinion or your.  

On the other side, we can choose to resolve the issue, which i will publicly post and clear my remark on your reputation as it isn't reflecting a corrected situation then.



      You still think the work of updating the thread I asked you is worthless but to me is not worthless because that is what I asked you to do and want to pay for but since  you still believe is worthless why should I pay you for it.
   
       I am still owing you 50 RIYA token and will be willing to pay you at any time you reply to my PM or post your payment address on this thread.

      At this point, I will wait to see final action from Lauda and the will determine my next  action.
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And to you Whoeir, all i owe you is 50 RIYA which is clearly indicated in the last message I sent you which had it been you replied I would have sent your tokens to, so I am still waiting to receive an ERC 2.0 token compatible wallet to send that 50 RIYA token to you. And when I send your token please remove all negative posts and rating from my thread and profile.

      I want to believe you will understand this.


        Thank you

The wallet was already posted before on the topic when u requested a verification.

Look I disagree with your reasoning and that is been made clear by me. In my opinion I did 75% of the work, because, posting worthless information to a topic is of way less value then translating a full campaign.

I agree that we both may have made mistakes, but saying that a translation of a whitepaper and ann-thread is worth 1/50th, is the reason why we are still in full disagree.

In my opinion you owe me more then what your claiming and in my opinion your reasoning is just a simple thing to tell me to fuck off.

We can disagree on all standings, it will simply mean we move on from this point and leave it by what it is. Those that read this topic can freely decide for them self if they share my opinion or your.  

On the other side, we can choose to resolve the issue, which i will publicly post and clear my remark on your reputation as it isn't reflecting a corrected situation then.
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I confirm that iam2good contacted me for managing Etheriya Bounty program but he only contacted me for managing signature and translation campaign and not Twitter campaign's.

I wasn't that good at that time in checking translations and therefore I got Jamal for translations. For signature campaign , I always check at the end of the ICO of the project.

We were ceased from our part of the work where he rejected us in a message. Jamal also was offline for like 1 month since the communications in his city were not working properly and he was unable to read my sent messages as well. So translations wasn't updated as well at that point.

Iam2good is just trying to corner up me with the situation that happened and trying to hold participants tokens. I offered him to fix the situation and he completely rejected ceasing us from our job roles but by this he doesn't has the right to hold on to tokens shares of Bounty participants. He could have come up with a solution with participants if he didn't like how I proposed to get the countings done.

Also right from the start he was unclear about the Bounty program token pool. He announced it at the end of the ICO. Please note that I didn't managed Twitter campaign. It was being managed by someone else.


He was unclear about the Bounty distribution earlier. He also come up with the way of distribution after the end of the ICO. It just shows what he was upto from the start and this was my biggest mistake to even accept his offer.

Thank you for posting your side of the situation.

@Iam2good, I requested him to respond here himself, as he informed me of the request to cease working when I contacted him during the final days of the campaign, as I wasn't able to contact anyone else, including yourself. Besides the fact that I disagree to blindly post a conversation with him, without himself being present in the channel yet.
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Dear Lauda,

    I want to believe enough evidence has been provided to get this issue resolve and your negative rating off my profile.


      Thank you for understanding
sr. member
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And to you Whoeir, all i owe you is 50 RIYA which is clearly indicated in the last message I sent you which had it been you replied I would have sent your tokens to, so I am still waiting to receive an ERC 2.0 token compatible wallet to send that 50 RIYA token to you. And when I send your token please remove all negative posts and rating from my thread and profile.

      I want to believe you will understand this.


        Thank you
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I confirm that iam2good contacted me for managing Etheriya Bounty program but he only contacted me for managing signature and translation campaign and not Twitter campaign's.

I wasn't that good at that time in checking translations and therefore I got Jamal for translations. For signature campaign , I always check at the end of the ICO of the project.

We were ceased from our part of the work where he rejected us in a message. Jamal also was offline for like 1 month since the communications in his city were not working properly and he was unable to read my sent messages as well. So translations wasn't updated as well at that point.

Iam2good is just trying to corner up me with the situation that happened and trying to hold participants tokens. I offered him to fix the situation and he completely rejected ceasing us from our job roles but by this he doesn't has the right to hold on to tokens shares of Bounty participants. He could have come up with a solution with participants if he didn't like how I proposed to get the countings done.

Also right from the start he was unclear about the Bounty program token pool. He announced it at the end of the ICO. Please note that I didn't managed Twitter campaign. It was being managed by someone else.


He was unclear about the Bounty distribution earlier. He also come up with the way of distribution after the end of the ICO. It just shows what he was upto from the start and this was my biggest mistake to even accept his offer.

  You already mentioned that you did not do the work you are asked to on daily basis. It was at the end of the ICO you feel you can do the work,right? A work someone supposedly to supervised daily but was absent for a whole month without any record and you tell me that is a work.  Emagine a human resource manager in a company that is asked to supervise the work of staff on daily basis but left the company for a whole month and at the end of the month when the was time for the CEO to pay salary reaches and all of a sudden the human resource manager pop up to collect his salary and that of the staff, but the CEO ask of the month's record of work for the month then the human resource manager claims he was absent for the whole month so was not able to take any record but he will do his best to record everything in just one hour.If you were that CEO what action will you take?


    Same thing applicable here. If you did not check daily how would you know if those wearing signature and avatar are still putting it or not, how would you know they have posted the required number of posts and they did not spam other threads? I can go on and on to mention so many mistakes you have made which guarantees you need not be paid.


       We are only talking about translation bounty and not social media bounty because that is the area of interest by the scam accuser so you have no business with that.

      It appears you also do not understand what is mean by STAKE in bounty campaign that is why you are confused as to the calculation of the bounty earning at the end of the campaign.


     I have posted details of our communication above that everyone can see so nothing to hide about.
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I confirm that iam2good contacted me for managing Etheriya Bounty program but he only contacted me for managing signature and translation campaign and not Twitter campaign's.

I wasn't that good at that time in checking translations and therefore I got Jamal for translations. For signature campaign , I always check at the end of the ICO of the project.

We were ceased from our part of the work where he rejected us in a message. Jamal also was offline for like 1 month since the communications in his city were not working properly and he was unable to read my sent messages as well. So translations wasn't updated as well at that point.

Iam2good is just trying to corner up me with the situation that happened and trying to hold participants tokens. I offered him to fix the situation and he completely rejected ceasing us from our job roles but by this he doesn't has the right to hold on to tokens shares of Bounty participants. He could have come up with a solution with participants if he didn't like how I proposed to get the countings done.

Also right from the start he was unclear about the Bounty program token pool. He announced it at the end of the ICO. Please note that I didn't managed Twitter campaign. It was being managed by someone else.


He was unclear about the Bounty distribution earlier. He also come up with the way of distribution after the end of the ICO. It just shows what he was upto from the start and this was my biggest mistake to even accept his offer.
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Jamal and Avirunes did not scam me, they simply did not do the work i asked them to do and when i pointed out the proof that they do not do their work and i will not pay them they never  argue with me because i am right and until today none of them receive a penny from me.
Could you provide proof of this? Jamal has been ripe for a negative rating for a very long time.


    When i want to start the bounty i contacted Avirunes and Avirunes told me he cannot handle the bounty alone but willl contact Jamal so they can do it together and when i make the payment then they will split it together. For this reason, i never communicated with Jamal but with Avirunes. See the QUOTES from our communication below:







   Please ask me here what you wanted asking me on skype.

       Thank you

I wanted to talk on Skype since it is better to type quick there. Anyway I wanted to talk about the payment of ours. So how much you are willing to pay us for the job?

Also it will be in token right?


Regards,
Avirunes

   Yes it will be in the token. We plan to pay 25000 RIYA Tokens for the entire promotion period ( about 50 days )


               Thank you

Why here 2500 stakes : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19665925 Please correct the exact payout. Shouldn't it be something in tokens?

So for doing our campaign managing job , how much you are willing to pay ?

Regards,
Avirunes

   When i say  25000 RIYA Tokens, i mean your own payment not for the translators or signature campaign.

Alright


   Please let us know if that is OK by you so we could start.



May I know a count on Bounty pool tokens of Etheriya so that I can complete the sheet

Regards,
Avirunes

   I don't understand what you mean by ' a county on bounty pool tokens' , please explain.


May I know a count on Bounty pool tokens of Etheriya so that I can complete the sheet

Regards,
Avirunes

   I don't understand what you mean by ' a county on bounty pool tokens' , please explain.

I mean total tokens to be paid to signature and translation participants.

Regards,
Avirunes



     Please wait for ICO to end in few hours then I will let you know about it.


May I know a count on Bounty pool tokens of Etheriya so that I can complete the sheet

Regards,
Avirunes

   I don't understand what you mean by ' a county on bounty pool tokens' , please explain.

I mean total tokens to be paid to signature and translation participants.

Regards,
Avirunes



     Please wait for ICO to end in few hours then I will let you know about it.

Site is offline and i can't see your sites icos page site as well.


   www.etheriya.net is the site

    ICO page is http://www.etheriya.net/join-ICO/


        Check it now and let me know if it is still offline.



Hello..

Can I get count on tokens now since you have officially announced.

Regards,
Avirunes

  Based on how the ICO ende and the number of token created,you are to compute their earning by dividing the total number of stakes they earn by 54. For example, if the total stakes earned by a participant is 100 then the total number of token earned is 100/54 = 1.852 RIYA.

    Please see total number of token successfully created here https://etherscan.io/token/0x0b1724cc9fda0186911ef6a75949e9c0d3f0f2f3

Hello..

Can I get count on tokens now since you have officially announced.

Regards,
Avirunes

  Based on how the ICO ende and the number of token created,you are to compute their earning by dividing the total number of stakes they earn by 54. For example, if the total stakes earned by a participant is 100 then the total number of token earned is 100/54 = 1.852 RIYA.

    Please see total number of token successfully created here https://etherscan.io/token/0x0b1724cc9fda0186911ef6a75949e9c0d3f0f2f3

I am unable to understand how you come up with dividing stakes with 54.Can you please explain it.

I think it should be like this. We calculate total stakes of all the participants. We need a total tokens to be distributed and calculate by dividing total tokens with total stakes to get tokens per stake and then multiply per stake with their stakes.

Thankyou.

Regards,
Avirunes


      Hello,

          I checked and i see virtually no record of work done by either you or the list of accepted signature and translation participants. Most of them removed our signature ad, right from the starting until the end of the campaign there was no day you updated the spreadsheet for the number of valid posts,no anyone so far that has been banned for violating the signature campaign.  For the accepted translation too, there was no any record of work. You did not even bother to record the links to the translated thread not to talk more of monitoring the thread whether it is following the campaign rules or not. Bellow you can find the screenshots links to the spreadsheet:

http://prntscr.com/g74ken
http://prntscr.com/g74l30
http://prntscr.com/g74lfh


      Apart from creating the spreadsheet and approving the participant,is there any other work done by you or the participants that you want to be paid for ?


         Thank you


Hello..

Can I get count on tokens now since you have officially announced.

Regards,
Avirunes

  Based on how the ICO ende and the number of token created,you are to compute their earning by dividing the total number of stakes they earn by 54. For example, if the total stakes earned by a participant is 100 then the total number of token earned is 100/54 = 1.852 RIYA.

    Please see total number of token successfully created here https://etherscan.io/token/0x0b1724cc9fda0186911ef6a75949e9c0d3f0f2f3

I am unable to understand how you come up with dividing stakes with 54.Can you please explain it.

I think it should be like this. We calculate total stakes of all the participants. We need a total tokens to be distributed and calculate by dividing total tokens with total stakes to get tokens per stake and then multiply per stake with their stakes.

Thankyou.

Regards,
Avirunes


      Hello,

          I checked and i see virtually no record of work done by either you or the list of accepted signature and translation participants. Most of them removed our signature ad, right from the starting until the end of the campaign there was no day you updated the spreadsheet for the number of valid posts,no anyone so far that has been banned for violating the signature campaign.  For the accepted translation too, there was no any record of work. You did not even bother to record the links to the translated thread not to talk more of monitoring the thread whether it is following the campaign rules or not. Bellow you can find the screenshots links to the spreadsheet:

http://prntscr.com/g74ken
http://prntscr.com/g74l30
http://prntscr.com/g74lfh


      Apart from creating the spreadsheet and approving the participant,is there any other work done by you or the participants that you want to be paid for ?


         Thank you

I don't want my payment if that is what you are worried for.

And btw there was a purpose on why I didn't recorded weekly .  Because user can delete their post after week count . Regarding translation I divided the work with other guy who. Anyway that will take on me (blame). It's though upto you from now onwards

Regards,
Avirunes


    I am not worried for making payment but i want to see the work done which is worthy of payment.

           Thank you




Hello..

Can I get count on tokens now since you have officially announced.

Regards,
Avirunes

  Based on how the ICO ende and the number of token created,you are to compute their earning by dividing the total number of stakes they earn by 54. For example, if the total stakes earned by a participant is 100 then the total number of token earned is 100/54 = 1.852 RIYA.

    Please see total number of token successfully created here https://etherscan.io/token/0x0b1724cc9fda0186911ef6a75949e9c0d3f0f2f3

I am unable to understand how you come up with dividing stakes with 54.Can you please explain it.

I think it should be like this. We calculate total stakes of all the participants. We need a total tokens to be distributed and calculate by dividing total tokens with total stakes to get tokens per stake and then multiply per stake with their stakes.

Thankyou.

Regards,
Avirunes


      Hello,

          I checked and i see virtually no record of work done by either you or the list of accepted signature and translation participants. Most of them removed our signature ad, right from the starting until the end of the campaign there was no day you updated the spreadsheet for the number of valid posts,no anyone so far that has been banned for violating the signature campaign.  For the accepted translation too, there was no any record of work. You did not even bother to record the links to the translated thread not to talk more of monitoring the thread whether it is following the campaign rules or not. Bellow you can find the screenshots links to the spreadsheet:

http://prntscr.com/g74ken
http://prntscr.com/g74l30
http://prntscr.com/g74lfh


      Apart from creating the spreadsheet and approving the participant,is there any other work done by you or the participants that you want to be paid for ?


         Thank you

I don't want my payment if that is what you are worried for.

And btw there was a purpose on why I didn't recorded weekly .  Because user can delete their post after week count . Regarding translation I divided the work with other guy who. Anyway that will take on me (blame). It's though upto you from now onwards

Regards,
Avirunes


    I am not worried for making payment but i want to see the work done which is worthy of payment.

           Thank you

I totally understand that and I apologise for that. Please let me know the token count for participants as I have asked in some of the pm sent sometime ago. Let's not delay and waste time because of this.



  But work was not recorded as at when due following the conditions of the Bounty program i think it can't be now, right ?



Hello..

Can I get count on tokens now since you have officially announced.

Regards,
Avirunes

  Based on how the ICO ende and the number of token created,you are to compute their earning by dividing the total number of stakes they earn by 54. For example, if the total stakes earned by a participant is 100 then the total number of token earned is 100/54 = 1.852 RIYA.

    Please see total number of token successfully created here https://etherscan.io/token/0x0b1724cc9fda0186911ef6a75949e9c0d3f0f2f3

I am unable to understand how you come up with dividing stakes with 54.Can you please explain it.

I think it should be like this. We calculate total stakes of all the participants. We need a total tokens to be distributed and calculate by dividing total tokens with total stakes to get tokens per stake and then multiply per stake with their stakes.

Thankyou.

Regards,
Avirunes


      Hello,

          I checked and i see virtually no record of work done by either you or the list of accepted signature and translation participants. Most of them removed our signature ad, right from the starting until the end of the campaign there was no day you updated the spreadsheet for the number of valid posts,no anyone so far that has been banned for violating the signature campaign.  For the accepted translation too, there was no any record of work. You did not even bother to record the links to the translated thread not to talk more of monitoring the thread whether it is following the campaign rules or not. Bellow you can find the screenshots links to the spreadsheet:

http://prntscr.com/g74ken
http://prntscr.com/g74l30
http://prntscr.com/g74lfh


      Apart from creating the spreadsheet and approving the participant,is there any other work done by you or the participants that you want to be paid for ?


         Thank you

I don't want my payment if that is what you are worried for.

And btw there was a purpose on why I didn't recorded weekly .  Because user can delete their post after week count . Regarding translation I divided the work with other guy who. Anyway that will take on me (blame). It's though upto you from now onwards

Regards,
Avirunes


    I am not worried for making payment but i want to see the work done which is worthy of payment.

           Thank you

I totally understand that and I apologise for that. Please let me know the token count for participants as I have asked in some of the pm sent sometime ago. Let's not delay and waste time because of this.



  But work was not recorded as at when due following the conditions of the Bounty program i think it can't be now, right ?

No..It can be still. We have the week periods and I will check a participants post made between that round and calculate it accordingly.

You got the picture? Or you want an example.

Let me know Smiley

    All participant and the bounty manager must have strictly abide by the terms and condition of the bounty program in it entirety to be counted as valid. I therefor reject it.



      Thank you








     Since the last message above Avirunes has never contacted me again for any payment. I can post screenshot of same message above if you want me to.
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Dear Iam2Good,

I did reply and even on your own thread the discussion with me and a fellow translator were just ignored.

Once again you twist, and even post your own incorrect claim about the "daily posting required".  Where in my believe, translating you documentation and thread is way more more work then just posting random numbers on "the ICO has gained 10k USD today", where once again people in the Netherlands rather see no bump on a thread, then a worthless input on a topic.


In response to your stake calculation, I'll refer to your own post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21164243 and will add a screenshot for you here



So quit the turning of words, your team of hired bounty managers might have failed, ignored their translators, eventually you and your team hired them. We've contacted you during the campaign about one of the 2 bounty hunters to be missing.. you ignored to respond to it.


PS.. ure missing a message where u never responded to:






    The message in the screenshort you posted here was sent 17 Auust while my reply which you never respond to was sent on 26 August, so which message are you saying i did not respond to ? And when we say we want to make the payment in full, we mean for those we completed their work and not who does it partially.


legendary
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Terminated.
Jamal and Avirunes did not scam me, they simply did not do the work i asked them to do and when i pointed out the proof that they do not do their work and i will not pay them they never  argue with me because i am right and until today none of them receive a penny from me.
Could you provide proof of this? Jamal has been ripe for a negative rating for a very long time.
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Dear Iam2Good,

I did reply and even on your own thread the discussion with me and a fellow translator were just ignored.

Once again you twist, and even post your own incorrect claim about the "daily posting required".  Where in my believe, translating you documentation and thread is way more more work then just posting random numbers on "the ICO has gained 10k USD today", where once again people in the Netherlands rather see no bump on a thread, then a worthless input on a topic.


In response to your stake calculation, I'll refer to your own post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21164243 and will add a screenshot for you here



So quit the turning of words, your team of hired bounty managers might have failed, ignored their translators, eventually you and your team hired them. We've contacted you during the campaign about one of the 2 bounty hunters to be missing.. you ignored to respond to it.


PS.. ure missing a message where u never responded to:



   Jamal and Avirunes did not scam me, they simply did not do the work i asked them to do and when i pointed out the proof that they do not do their work and i will not pay them they never  argue with me because i am right and until today none of them receive a penny from me.
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     Bounty manager was not Visale, it was Avirunes and jamalaezaz that handled the bounty promotion in the start but failed to record any work done and we refuse to pay them because they did not do their work and non of them try to force us pay them despite their reputation because we are right. All the people who participated for social media and blog campaign that have records were paid.
Wait, are you saying Jamal and Avirunes scammed you by not doing the work that they were hired for?
Lauda,

Avirunes told me he was ordered to cease the counting, I can post his messages to me, since I have contacted him during the campaign. But I rather have his agreement on it before i open up pm's
Yes, that would help. Are you sure that those PMs are not *supposed to be* private? Maybe you should ask Avirunes first, just in case.

Hi Lauda,

That is what I pointed at, I can open up, but I would rather have his agreement, before I post them Smiley
legendary
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     Bounty manager was not Visale, it was Avirunes and jamalaezaz that handled the bounty promotion in the start but failed to record any work done and we refuse to pay them because they did not do their work and non of them try to force us pay them despite their reputation because we are right. All the people who participated for social media and blog campaign that have records were paid.
Wait, are you saying Jamal and Avirunes scammed you by not doing the work that they were hired for?
Lauda,

Avirunes told me he was ordered to cease the counting, I can post his messages to me, since I have contacted him during the campaign. But I rather have his agreement on it before i open up pm's
Yes, that would help. Are you sure that those PMs are not *supposed to be* private? Maybe you should ask Avirunes first, just in case.
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     Bounty manager was not Visale, it was Avirunes and jamalaezaz that handled the bounty promotion in the start but failed to record any work done and we refuse to pay them because they did not do their work and non of them try to force us pay them despite their reputation because we are right. All the people who participated for social media and blog campaign that have records were paid.
Wait, are you saying Jamal and Avirunes scammed you by not doing the work that they were hired for?

Lauda,

Avirunes told me he was ordered to cease the counting, I can post his messages to me, since I have contacted him during the campaign. But I rather have his agreement on it before i open up pm's
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Dear Iam2Good,

I did reply and even on your own thread the discussion with me and a fellow translator were just ignored.

Once again you twist, and even post your own incorrect claim about the "daily posting required".  Where in my believe, translating you documentation and thread is way more more work then just posting random numbers on "the ICO has gained 10k USD today", where once again people in the Netherlands rather see no bump on a thread, then a worthless input on a topic.


In response to your stake calculation, I'll refer to your own post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21164243 and will add a screenshot for you here



So quit the turning of words, your team of hired bounty managers might have failed, ignored their translators, eventually you and your team hired them. We've contacted you during the campaign about one of the 2 bounty hunters to be missing.. you ignored to respond to it.


PS.. ure missing a message where u never responded to:
legendary
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      Bounty manager was not Visale, it was Avirunes and jamalaezaz that handled the bounty promotion in the start but failed to record any work done and we refuse to pay them because they did not do their work and non of them try to force us pay them despite their reputation because we are right. All the people who participated for social media and blog campaign that have records were paid.
Wait, are you saying Jamal and Avirunes scammed you by not doing the work that they were hired for?
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  Hello Scam accuser,

      Bounty manager was not Visale, it was Avirunes and [urhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721115l]jamalaezaz[/url] that handled the bounty promotion in the start but failed to record any work done and we refuse to pay them because they did not do their work and non of them try to force us pay them despite their reputation because we are right. All the people who participated for social media and blog campaign that have records were paid.


          You came here to point accusation fingers with reference links to the ANN thread and to bounty thread, without providing proof links to your work. In that bounty thread you are asked to make  Translation of ANN+Whitepaper and management of the translated thread for 60 days which is the period of the ICO for you to get 2500 STAKES, but we don't have most of that record for you, so how do you expect us to pay you becauses bulk of the work is in management of the translated thread and not just for the translation.

    Remember it was mentioned that you are to get '2500 STAKES' not 2500 RIYA. 2500 Stakes means means you will get 2500 of the total of RIYA tokens available to bounty thread at the end of the ICO. So this means that if the maximum supply which is 100,000,000 is 100% sold, 5% which is meant for the bounty will be 5,000,000 and you will get  2500 tokens, but only  1.581% of the total token supplied was sold and the remaining tokens were burnt by the smart contract, you can check COINMARKETCAP for the token circulation. This means that only 1.581% of 5,000,000 tokens will also be available for bounty.This means everyone who participated in the ICO will get only 1.581% of his total stakes. For 2500 stakes, the person will get 1.581/100 x 2500 = 39.5 RIYA , that was the calculation of bounty at the end of the ICO which you are claiming we change the Terms/Rule of the bounty campaign at the end which i believe you failed to understand that rule was still there even in the first minute of the bounty campaign.  We paid everyone including translation bounty who understand the terms of this bounty campaign except you who has no most record for your work, if we want to scam is it only you that we will scam? Despite the fact you are supposed to be paid 39.5 RIYA but we offered you 50 RIYA, but since then we never heard from you anymore. Below everyone can see links to your work and the detail of communication between me and you to judge who is trying to scam who:

        Link to your Translated thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-etheriya-een-ethereum-token-gesteund-by-een-veiling-marktplaats-2006610

       Link to your whitepaper translation : https://1drv.ms/w/s!AHHkCLolBpsQie4T




                  SCREENSHORT OF OUR COMMUNICATION


   

   

   

   

   




    COMMUNICATION AS QUOTED



     
Hi there Smiley

Since Jamal hasn't seem to be in contact with either the translators and I guess with you, here is my translation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-etheriya-een-ethereum-token-gesteund-by-een-veiling-marktplaats-2006610

I hope you can reach out to Jamal since he hasn't shown any sign of activity during the campaign ( nor being in contact with the translator about extra information etc. )

With kind regards,

Jeffrey


Hi there Smiley

Since Jamal hasn't seem to be in contact with either the translators and I guess with you, here is my translation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-etheriya-een-ethereum-token-gesteund-by-een-veiling-marktplaats-2006610

I hope you can reach out to Jamal since he hasn't shown any sign of activity during the campaign ( nor being in contact with the translator about extra information etc. )

With kind regards,

Jeffrey

I forgot to add the link to the whitepaper https://1drv.ms/w/s!AHHkCLolBpsQie4T


With kind regards,

Jeffrey



Hi there Smiley

Since Jamal hasn't seem to be in contact with either the translators and I guess with you, here is my translation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-etheriya-een-ethereum-token-gesteund-by-een-veiling-marktplaats-2006610

I hope you can reach out to Jamal since he hasn't shown any sign of activity during the campaign ( nor being in contact with the translator about extra information etc. )

With kind regards,

Jeffrey

   In our translation description there is a rule which says you must update the translation everyday but since you translated it you never care to even update the thread even once, why ?


Hi mate,

I honestly checked it regularly, but there was barely any information to post, so eventually it kind of landed on the backside of my mind.

As soon as I saw an update showing that I could mention, I have posted it.

I have tried contacting Jamal and even posted in the ann-thread asking for more information, but I never got any response on it.


I truly apologize if this was the wrong choice, but I know that the people in my country prefer to see a solid topic, where there are no updates, then see a topic with updates, just to up the topic.

Hope you understand my situation,

With kind regards,

Jeffrey




Hi mate,

I honestly checked it regularly, but there was barely any information to post, so eventually it kind of landed on the backside of my mind.

As soon as I saw an update showing that I could mention, I have posted it.

I have tried contacting Jamal and even posted in the ann-thread asking for more information, but I never got any response on it.


I truly apologize if this was the wrong choice, but I know that the people in my country prefer to see a solid topic, where there are no updates, then see a topic with updates, just to up the topic.

Hope you understand my situation,

With kind regards,

Jeffrey


    You can't tell me there is not daily update on daily basis to the ICO. For example, everyday the amount for ICO increases through selling the Token,everyday we update Twitter, website and announcement thread, all of that are some of the few information you needed to update to keep your thread live and active. I checked the thread but see only translation without even a single update.But remember according to the terms of the translation bounty campaign you are to be paid for translation and management and not only translation. I  refused to pay your campaign manager who fails to monitor your work by following the rules of the bounty campaign,you can ask
 them to confirm.  I did not think you are worth paying but for the translation you made we are going to pay you 50 RIYA. The bulk of the work is in management of the thread for period of 60 days. If you divide 2500 by 60 you will see that daily earning is ~ 42 RIYA ,but you did not do any daily work except translation.


      Since the last reply we sent the him we never receive any message again from him, so who is a scammer?
   
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Total involved for me personal is 2500 riya as the payment was 2500 stakes, which ended on 1 stake = 1 riya ( see link )
This results in current market value of 3000 USD
How ?  Cry
To my understanding of the project,the coin is ran by worthless scammers who are famous for looting money from investors for the sake of ICO.Who invested in the coin ? Did that shit coin already hit an exchange ?  Was their ICO successful ? Sorry if it sounds too lame but I just want to know how did you round figured up the bounty to that amount.And if that coin is still being trades shouldn't be aware the community of their scam operations ?

This has been given more then enough time to be dealt with on a proper way, yet being treated with silence or accuses of not updating daily ( where there was no demand to update daily ), has led me to believe that no one in the team of Etheriya is even interested in talk with me or other unpaid translators.
Because they're bunch of scammers.I believe there is no team either.The accounts mentioned are controlling everything else.

The token did actually land on an exchange and is traded, ICO succeeded ( or atleast they claimed it did ).

The remainder of your response, well yup..
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Total involved for me personal is 2500 riya as the payment was 2500 stakes, which ended on 1 stake = 1 riya ( see link )
This results in current market value of 3000 USD
How ?  Cry
To my understanding of the project,the coin is ran by worthless scammers who are famous for looting money from investors for the sake of ICO.Who invested in the coin ? Did that shit coin already hit an exchange ?  Was their ICO successful ? Sorry if it sounds too lame but I just want to know how did you round figured up the bounty to that amount.And if that coin is still being trades shouldn't be aware the community of their scam operations ?

This has been given more then enough time to be dealt with on a proper way, yet being treated with silence or accuses of not updating daily ( where there was no demand to update daily ), has led me to believe that no one in the team of Etheriya is even interested in talk with me or other unpaid translators.
Because they're bunch of scammers.I believe there is no team either.The accounts mentioned are controlling everything else.
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Iam2Good( also represented Visale ) and myself have found an solution to this. In my opinion this is resolved.



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Hi guys,

Never ever have I hoped to be required to do this, but as it seems "Iam2Good" and Etheriya team member "Visale" have decided to just ignore request and messages about unpaid bounty's and keep on doing their regular activities.

Please see the following post a fellow bounty translator member has made on their topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23444262

Bounty thread is locked, after claiming to have sent out to everyone ( except the translators )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1983388.1060


As several attempts into discussing this has always lead to being ignored or just claims or not willing to, besides accusation of not updating the thread often enough ( claimed to demand this daily, where this is not visible in the thread).  Even the accusation was made to jamalaezaz that he did not sent in any details about the translations ( I have to say I was quite annoyed that during the campaign he vanished and thus we never received any information about the campaign ).

I did receive message from the other campaign leader "Avirunes" that they were asked to cease counting the stakes on the campaign..  ( I won't post the pm's, or Avirunes will have to agree upon this.).


Total involved for me personal is 2500 riya as the payment was 2500 stakes, which ended on 1 stake = 1 riya ( see link )
This results in current market value of 3000 USD


This has been given more then enough time to be dealt with on a proper way, yet being treated with silence or accuses of not updating daily ( where there was no demand to update daily ), has led me to believe that no one in the team of Etheriya is even interested in talk with me or other unpaid translators.
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