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Quote from: bomj on December 07, 2020, 06:24:45 PM

Life seems long when we are young.
When we get old, life seems short.
Do we have the right to transfer our account to loved ones?
And how to do it correctly?

This is a purely theoretical question.

What account you've been talking into? because there are lots of them but to presume;

-bitcointalk account?
-Custodial wallet account?

or else? (Private keys)

When you are worried about on how to pass up your account then the best thing to do is to make them know
when you do still had time. Life is unpredictable even if we arent that too old but who knows if we would die tommorow?
If you are in extreme worrying situation then better to teach them earlier.

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You say that it's pure theoretical but with those words in your introduction seems you're up for something or you're going through with harder things in life. Basically, each website where you have an account can be passed on to your loved ones. I guess that you have discussed very well on this thread and have been clarified what you want to ask and got answers that have already satisfied you.

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Quote from: bomj on December 07, 2020, 06:24:45 PM

Do we have the right to transfer our account to loved ones?

Yes.

Quote from: bomj on December 07, 2020, 06:24:45 PM

And how to do it correctly?

You didn't give clarification of the account. Whether crypto account/wallet or whether bank account.

If it is crypto wallet account, then you can freely do that with trust to whosoever with hope that you won't be betrayed. You can disclose your wallet code to the person.

For bank account, I think you can do such or you are already doing that when you fill your bank form for opening an account. Usually, the bank provides a column where you fill someone's name that is close to you called next of kin. Automatically, a next of kin can handle your account if you not available again either by death. Although, there are other forms and confirmation to be done by the next of kin.

But if you also want to transfer your account to another person, I think it is still possible with the bank, maybe like a gift to the person.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 08, 2020, 11:45:00 AM

Yes, I have the same question as asked by @jackg.

Op, If you mean a Bitcointalk account, why should it be transferred, teach your loved ones how to hang out on this forum, like, you are currently, after your lover understands the rules of the forum and how to get along in this forum, provide an account for your lover, done.

And one more thing you have to remind your lover, obey the rules of the forum and don't cheat, your lover will be safe, free from punishment.

it's hard to assume a personality in forum, especially a high ranked with good reputation and posting habit it will caught up with the new user and people will realized that they are dealing with a different personality, so no we should not transfer our account and let them build their own reputation on this forum.

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I think that it is enough to leave a file with a private key to access the wallet on the computer desktop and tell those who should get it about it. Although the topic is interesting for discussion, because a person can suddenly die without leaving any note or hints on where to get the private key, especially if there are a lot of coins on the bitcoin wallet, which in the end will simply be on the Internet and get lost there. Thus, a large number of bitcoins do not belong to anyone.

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Intangible things cannot be transferred, as they are related to intellectual property rights that should not be except for him. For example, if my father was a famous writer, I would not write using his name after his death, but the intellectual property returns for those writers will return to those who inherit them after that.

Bitcointalk accounts represent the same thing, parents can log in to the account, but making posts are not from those accounts or others.

The examples above can be generalized, and the same applies to those who want to obtain the private key.

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It's nonsense if your loved ones are not familiar or don't know about bitcoin or any crypto wallet, so make sure first that your loved ones have a bit of knowledge about it so if there is something bad might happen to you, there would be a person who can benefit your money in your account. For me, this is necessary for everyone to share their account information with their loved ones especially if you are sure to her/him or you already have a family.

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It really is one of the questions that every investor should ask himself and that has to do with our ethics as investors and our relationship with our family, since negotiation is very difficult to combine with emotions, but if it is the case, it is to visualize who and why The account would be left and the most important thing is that our ethics are not affected if we do so

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Quote from: bomj on December 12, 2020, 05:47:23 PM

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Oh so it's a transfer of account not Bitcoin more particularly a BCT account promoting Chipmixer you are talking about? In this case I don't think there is a right of succession going on when it comes to a death of a BCT user to one of his/her loved ones since Chipmixer or any signature campaign has hired that one and only user posting on that account and not you. Think about it this way if a CEO of a company dies it doesn't mean his/her children have some kind of line of succession into taking his place it doesn't work that way.

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Quote from: bomj on December 08, 2020, 05:19:26 PM

Here I was interested in the question of the succession of the account on the forum.
Nevertheless, I think this is a difficult question, which cannot be answered unequivocally.....

Basically it is not a big deal as anyone can register in the site for free even though ranking is not that easy there are hundreds of users that reached legendary accounts after the implementation of the merit system and no one wants to hand over the account until you think there are monetary benefits.

Morally handing over your account to your kin is fine but ethically you need to announce that it has changed hands so that anyone dealing with the account will understand there is a change in ownership.

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A lot of issues were discussed in these topics
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dead-mans-switch-5069728
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-would-you-implement-a-dead-mans-switch-5179829
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dead-mans-switch-better-approach-proposal-5185907

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https://myaccount.google.com/inactive?pli=1

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Quote from: bomj on December 08, 2020, 05:19:26 PM

Here I was interested in the question of the succession of the account on the forum.

You can simply leave your username and password to anyone so that your account can be used after your death. In that case, the question arises as to who will actually take possession of your account, and what will they do with it - maybe they decide to sell it?

There are people who have been proven to have died and their accounts were still active after their death. Personally, I am most familiar with the case of Hal Finney, who passed away in 2014, and someone was active in his account during 2017. Hal is certainly one of the most famous people next to Satoshi Nakamoto, and opinions are that the account is in the possession of one of his family members.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2436

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Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrencies are counted as assets which means in your death (theoretically) is transmissible/inheritable to the next of kin. I know a lot of people keeps their crypto assets a secret even on their love ones and the most easiest way for your crypto assets to be transferred to them without them knowing you have one is through your will and testament where your lawyer will be the one handling the process legally, this way you will know that just in case you die your assets will still be transferred to your love ones.

But if you are talking about your BCT account this isn't counted as an asset so I don't know how the transfer of accounts work which I don't think is transferable. Just think about it like your social media account where even if you die your next of kin doesn't have the right to gain control of it not unless it is like a Youtube account where people even do they die still makes profit out of it.

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Colleagues, I plan to live still.)))
Inheritance - I've already read everything on this forum. And I also tried to look for my(old options - still need to break my brains) options.
Here I was interested in the question of the succession of the account on the forum.
Nevertheless, I think this is a difficult question, which cannot be answered unequivocally.....

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It's an unclear question and OP didn't back yet.

But this similar to if we are talking about transferring your Bitcoin into other accounts then there is a way where you can transfer your Bitcoin to someone if it is already deemed necessary. To be fair with OP IMO we can only cross the bridge when we get there for circumstances may differ from what we are expecting and the advice that we will provide may not be the best one or suitable to the exact situation that anyone of us could possibly be when we are already there.

Another thought if you are talking on the Bitcointalk account as said above, following his suggestion is a good decission. Though as early as possible, for me it wouldn't be too bad if you plan to hand your account to someone by making him aware and get him to familiarize with the thing you are about to have him hereafter, instead, do as suggested above of my post.

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Yes, I have the same question as asked by @jackg.

Op, If you mean a Bitcointalk account, why should it be transferred, teach your loved ones how to hang out on this forum, like, you are currently, after your lover understands the rules of the forum and how to get along in this forum, provide an account for your lover, done.

And one more thing you have to remind your lover, obey the rules of the forum and don't cheat, your lover will be safe, free from punishment.

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I believe that opinions on this issue are divided, so I think there are those who very easily leave their forum account to others (better to say they sell it in most cases), to those members who would never sell their account or leave it to a family member or to a close friend. My personal opinion is that everyone has their own personality that they build into their account over time and thus make it unique in some way.

Therefore, I do not see that it is ethically/morally correct to transfer the forum account to someone who should then pretend to be the old owner. Even if someone declares themselves as the new owner of the old account, does it make sense to start something new on the old foundations? Personally, it is unthinkable for me to ever leave my account to anyone else in any way - this can only happen if it is stolen/hacked.

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What account? A bitcointalk account or a bitcoin wallet?

I made a thread on bitcoin inheritance here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5285003

If it's account-wise then that's going to be community dependent and you should probably move the topic to meta. I'd say you could just declare you've given your account to a relative (you could use a signed message for this) and they can confirm - someone will probably give the account a neutral tag for 6-12 months or something just in case though.

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Life seems long when we are young.
When we get old, life seems short.
Do we have the right to transfer our account to loved ones?
And how to do it correctly?

This is a purely theoretical question.

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