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In today's world with concern of oil shortage, everyone is moving towards green energy and every country is looking alternatives for oil. The world is moving towards Green energy is often referred to as clean, sustainable, or renewable energy. While Russia and U.S.A fighting over oil meanwhile China is increasing solar capacity.  China's solar capacity is now 228 gigawatts (GW), more than the rest of the world combined, according to Global Energy Monitor. I always appreciate this when several country started shift their focus on green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals.
In recent years, all of us have seen and felt on our own bodies how quickly the climate on our planet is changing and what dangers this threatens us with. Scientists have long warned humanity about this. But this is how a person works: if he does not see it directly and really, then he will not do anything. The situation has already become directly catastrophic and this will push us very sharply to switch to alternative energy sources. Oil and gas can become raw materials for the chemical industry and will be used less and less as a direct source of energy. I think that soon it will be enshrined in international norms. Therefore, Russia will lose its current advantage in the energy sector.
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The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

USA is pretty advanced when it comes to green energy. I don't know where to do you get your info from.
This isn't about "green energy vs. conventional energy". It's about energy diversification. China is developing green energy, but they still use lots of oil and coal. The same thing applies to USA. I highly doubt that China and USA are going to get rid of oil and coal in the next decades.
What do you mean by "if Russia wins"? If Russia wins the war in Ukraine? The development of green power plants around the world has nothing to do with the outcome of the war in Ukraine. The EU isn't ally with China, the EU is dependent of China, because China has lots of raw materials for solar panels and China is a major manufacturer of solar panels.
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Green energy is the way to go for the future and considering how terrible our weather is doing and how climate is at all time worst situation, that is a proof that we are getting to a point where we just can't do anything too make it better anymore.

Literally on the verge of irreversible damage and we still don't care, I do not know why we do not care, I do not know why "it will get better" mindset is winning, I do not care the main reason why they haven't stopped everything and focused on this, but one thing is known, we are going to live in desert like places where water levels rising caused a lot of floods and there are no water sources which will make half of population dead, and the other starving or thirsty at all times.

I'll give you my opinion. It's not about ecology. Ecology is the subject of a separate, big conversation. There are a lot of fantasies, a lot of manipulations, etc....
The problem with LIMITED hydrocarbon reserves is that they become a tool for blackmail, manipulation, and other very bad things. Alternative energy has no points of "exclusivity" and therefore it gives freedom and security to the economy of most countries. It is very easy to simulate a situation when the opponents of the free world, for example, conclude a treaty and stop oil production and sales for 12 months (yes, it sounds fantastic for many reasons, but it is possible to imagine). What would be the result ? From total collapse of economies of many countries, to internal huge discontent, which will be taken advantage of by not the best people....
Alternative energy - has no such "failure points" - no one can stop the wind, sunlight, tides, .....
So for me alternative energy is no longer about ecology, it is more about world economy and security !
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In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.
There is no need for China to seize all of Russia by force. It is Russia that is accustomed to solving almost all issues by force and coercion. This, of course, requires a very large number of police and army soldiers. Modern China in relation to Russia will most likely act by economic methods in which the population of Russia itself will voluntarily cooperate with China and the Chinese, since it will be economically beneficial for them. Why conquer by force a backward Russia with conditions of life and life, if this can be done almost completely peacefully, demonstrating that in alliance with China, the citizens of Russia will live better?
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Green energy is the way to go for the future and considering how terrible our weather is doing and how climate is at all time worst situation, that is a proof that we are getting to a point where we just can't do anything too make it better anymore.

Literally on the verge of irreversible damage and we still don't care, I do not know why we do not care, I do not know why "it will get better" mindset is winning, I do not care the main reason why they haven't stopped everything and focused on this, but one thing is known, we are going to live in desert like places where water levels rising caused a lot of floods and there are no water sources which will make half of population dead, and the other starving or thirsty at all times.
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USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
Russia has made its own choice. No one forced her to attack Ukraine. The Kremlin hoped to capture Ukraine quickly, in a few days, even before the world came to its senses and did something in response. But the Ukrainians broke the Kremlin's plans with their stubborn resistance, and the United States and the NATO alliance as a whole successfully took advantage of this. The hands of the Ukrainians are now destroying the military power of the Russian "second army of the world", as well as sharply weakening its economy and increasing isolation from the outside world.
The war unleashed by Russia will accelerate the transition of many countries to alternative energy sources and help to somehow avoid the consequences of abrupt climate change on our planet.
They think Ukraine looks weak because of their innocence but they are wrong. This country fought even though they know that Russia is strong. What made them more encouraged to defend their country is that the world is supporting them. The US and the NATO only did a punishment towards Russia in the form of sanction.

It's normal when some countries do an inappropriate act to the other like what Russia did. They are not taking an advantage there. The act did by Russia seems like a blessing in disguise as you said. Another benefit of using an alternative energy is that they also cost less. The only downside is they are not that reliable.

The great advantage of alternative energy (hydroelectric power plants, solar energy, wind farms, tidal power plants, etc.) is that this technology actually cannot be monopolized and MANIPULATED for the benefit of any group. Components for these solutions are produced by many countries, with different technologies and different resource requirements. But oil and gas, for example, can be blackmailed ("we will raise the price, deliberately"), or economic terror can be committed ("we'll raise the price").
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Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.
I am not sure what sources you use but every official link i can google says that main source for green energy is hydropower. While Solar could offer a lot it isn't used for the reasons you provided. Panels need cleaning and they break easily. Even wind farms are providing way more energy than solar, and those wind power stations are increasing rapidly.
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USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
Russia has made its own choice. No one forced her to attack Ukraine. The Kremlin hoped to capture Ukraine quickly, in a few days, even before the world came to its senses and did something in response. But the Ukrainians broke the Kremlin's plans with their stubborn resistance, and the United States and the NATO alliance as a whole successfully took advantage of this. The hands of the Ukrainians are now destroying the military power of the Russian "second army of the world", as well as sharply weakening its economy and increasing isolation from the outside world.
The war unleashed by Russia will accelerate the transition of many countries to alternative energy sources and help to somehow avoid the consequences of abrupt climate change on our planet.
They think Ukraine looks weak because of their innocence but they are wrong. This country fought even though they know that Russia is strong. What made them more encouraged to defend their country is that the world is supporting them. The US and the NATO only did a punishment towards Russia in the form of sanction.

It's normal when some countries do an inappropriate act to the other like what Russia did. They are not taking an advantage there. The act did by Russia seems like a blessing in disguise as you said. Another benefit of using an alternative energy is that they also cost less. The only downside is they are not that reliable.
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In today's world with concern of oil shortage, everyone is moving towards green energy and every country is looking alternatives for oil. The world is moving towards Green energy is often referred to as clean, sustainable, or renewable energy. While Russia and U.S.A fighting over oil meanwhile China is increasing solar capacity.  China's solar capacity is now 228 gigawatts (GW), more than the rest of the world combined, according to Global Energy Monitor. I always appreciate this when several country started shift their focus on green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals.
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The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

And If war ends then russia and USA economy dont do so good neither the arab mirates like UEA.

But world moving towards Green energy so the safest bet might be crypto and EU china assets and stock market.

The USA and russia destiny is umkown and world moving towards Green energy.

China is Also more Green energy like.

I'll adjust your view of the situation a bit.

If I agree about the EU and China, especially the EU, I disagree about the US and Russia.
Here's the thing - oil is not a critical resource for the US - they have been selling it and will continue to sell it, and if demand decreases, nothing critical for the economy and business will happen.
But for Russia, it is a critical resource that forms almost half of the country's budget revenues. Oil and Gas - this is what Russia's economy was based on. In today's situation, Russia is doing its best to push the oil market up at least somehow. The reason is banal - supplies to the EU have decreased by 90% and will soon become invisible. There is nowhere to sell gas, as the gas transportation system is not flexible and backward.
The only thing left is to sell oil somehow. China and India buy oil at huge discounts, which means that the income from oil and gas tends to 0.... That is why we see what is happening - attempts to artificially raise the price, create an artificial frenzy and increase demand.
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In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.
It is hardly worth agreeing with your opinion. Almost the entire combat-ready army of Russia perished on the territory of Ukraine. That is, the military experience of the Russians was very short-term. In Russia, they continue to mobilize those who do not have combat experience into the army, and they are almost immediately thrown into the assault on the fortified positions of the Ukrainians, where they die ingloriously. Now the opinion is being expressed that two or three brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may well be on Moscow and capture it. After all, there are no longer any significant military formations in Russia itself. That is why the Kremlin is now demanding a truce through the mouths of Lukashenka, Orban and other assistants.
China, with its population of almost one and a half billion people, can easily capture the whole of Russia without any problems. But China has the opportunity to do this not by military means, but by purely economic means. Apparently, the bet is already being made on this option.

Honestly, I don't know what you're saying. Do you have any proof for what you say? or just because you're on the side of the Ukrainian army, you spread baseless bullshit. I don't live in Russia, but as far as I know, Russia is dominating Ukraine. Another thing is Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world, and China or any other country that intends to attack Russia is the stupidest thing they will do. And why should they go to war when China is reaping so many benefits from doing business with Russia?
Real confirmation of the fact that there are very few combat-ready troops left in Russia itself, because almost all of them are at war in Ukraine, are raids on the border regions of Russia by the Russian Volunteer Corps (RDC) and the Svoboda Legion, which almost unhindered captured a number of border with Ukraine Russian settlements. In addition, the "campaign of justice" of the Wagnerites against Moscow on June 23-24 also showed this. They left the territory of Ukraine, passed Rostov, Voronezh, and other regions of Russia, destroyed seven helicopters and one aircraft of the Russian Air Force along the way, and turned back 200 kilometers from Moscow. At this time, near Moscow, they began to hastily collect barrage detachments from the remnants of the police and military, who were on vacation. If desired, the Wagnerites, led by Prigogine, could well then seize Moscow and arrange a military coup in Russia.
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I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
Russia has made its own choice. No one forced her to attack Ukraine. The Kremlin hoped to capture Ukraine quickly, in a few days, even before the world came to its senses and did something in response. But the Ukrainians broke the Kremlin's plans with their stubborn resistance, and the United States and the NATO alliance as a whole successfully took advantage of this. The hands of the Ukrainians are now destroying the military power of the Russian "second army of the world", as well as sharply weakening its economy and increasing isolation from the outside world.
The war unleashed by Russia will accelerate the transition of many countries to alternative energy sources and help to somehow avoid the consequences of abrupt climate change on our planet.
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In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.
It is hardly worth agreeing with your opinion. Almost the entire combat-ready army of Russia perished on the territory of Ukraine. That is, the military experience of the Russians was very short-term. In Russia, they continue to mobilize those who do not have combat experience into the army, and they are almost immediately thrown into the assault on the fortified positions of the Ukrainians, where they die ingloriously. Now the opinion is being expressed that two or three brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may well be on Moscow and capture it. After all, there are no longer any significant military formations in Russia itself. That is why the Kremlin is now demanding a truce through the mouths of Lukashenka, Orban and other assistants.
China, with its population of almost one and a half billion people, can easily capture the whole of Russia without any problems. But China has the opportunity to do this not by military means, but by purely economic means. Apparently, the bet is already being made on this option.

Honestly, I don't know what you're saying. Do you have any proof for what you say? or just because you're on the side of the Ukrainian army, you spread baseless bullshit. I don't live in Russia, but as far as I know, Russia is dominating Ukraine. Another thing is Russia is the biggest nuclear power in the world, and China or any other country that intends to attack Russia is the stupidest thing they will do. And why should they go to war when China is reaping so many benefits from doing business with Russia?
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In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.
It is hardly worth agreeing with your opinion. Almost the entire combat-ready army of Russia perished on the territory of Ukraine. That is, the military experience of the Russians was very short-term. In Russia, they continue to mobilize those who do not have combat experience into the army, and they are almost immediately thrown into the assault on the fortified positions of the Ukrainians, where they die ingloriously. Now the opinion is being expressed that two or three brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine may well be on Moscow and capture it. After all, there are no longer any significant military formations in Russia itself. That is why the Kremlin is now demanding a truce through the mouths of Lukashenka, Orban and other assistants.
China, with its population of almost one and a half billion people, can easily capture the whole of Russia without any problems. But China has the opportunity to do this not by military means, but by purely economic means. Apparently, the bet is already being made on this option.
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I don't deny that his wish is to rebuild Soviet Union but can you please answer me, why didn't Russia conquer Georgia back in 2008? Or after that? They only occupied 20% of Georgia. Georgia is post soviet-union country that turned into a pro-western country that wants to join EU and NATO. It has borders with Russia. This gives me a reason to say that they don't want NATO troops near their borders and it's their number one priority at the moment.
The Russian attack on Georgia lasted only five days. Russian tanks stopped 30 kilometers from the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, and then turned back, although Russian troops had the opportunity and most likely the intention to occupy all of Georgia. The reason why Russia changed its mind about seizing Georgia was a call from their US administration to the Kremlin, in which it was stated that if Russia does not urgently withdraw its troops from Georgia now, then American ships and aircraft will approach the borders of Georgia, and then enter the war on side of Georgia.
But the reaction of other states to this aggression was very weak, so after a while the Kremlin decided to go on the offensive against its other neighbors.
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To be honest, attack from their side is understandable. When your enemy comes near to your borders, any country that is capable to do so, would do what Russia did.
You are clearly distorting facts and events. Ukraine did not pose a military threat to Russia. Let me remind you that on December 5, 1994, the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the United States signed a memorandum on providing Ukraine with security guarantees in connection with its renunciation of the third largest nuclear potential and acquiring the status of a non-nuclear state. Since Ukraine did not see a military threat from other states, its armed forces were significantly reduced.
Yes, I know that memorandum and I know that words lose their meaning over time. You have to think wisely, it's written on paper and looks nice but it doesn't mean that it's actually a letter of guarantee, it's just formal. When time comes, everyone forgets their promises.

The fact that Ukraine has expressed a desire to become a member of NATO cannot be regarded as an enemy for Russia. This is just a far-fetched reason for military aggression by Putin and nothing more. After all, Russia had not previously attacked the Baltic countries - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia due to the fact that they joined NATO and thus NATO became at the borders of Russia. Russia is also not going to attack Sweden and Finland because of their decision last year to join NATO. Why such selectivity in the object of aggression?
That fact is the reason of why Russia waged a war against Ukraine. Russia doesn't want NATO near to its borders.
Sweden and Finland is really a headache for Russia but these countries are different case. Btw Putin stated that if NATO troops will be placed in these countries, then Russia will have a bad reaction.

The actual reasons for the attack on Ukraine by Russia were different, and this is not a threat from Ukraine. Putin imagined himself a great conqueror and collector of the lands of the collapsed USSR. The next ones would be Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, and then the rest of Georgia, the states of Central Asia, and so on. But Putin's plans fell through in Ukraine.
I don't deny that his wish is to rebuild Soviet Union but can you please answer me, why didn't Russia conquer Georgia back in 2008? Or after that? They only occupied 20% of Georgia. Georgia is post soviet-union country that turned into a pro-western country that wants to join EU and NATO. It has borders with Russia. This gives me a reason to say that they don't want NATO troops near their borders and it's their number one priority at the moment.
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To be honest, attack from their side is understandable. When your enemy comes near to your borders, any country that is capable to do so, would do what Russia did.
You are clearly distorting facts and events. Ukraine did not pose a military threat to Russia. Let me remind you that on December 5, 1994, the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the United States signed a memorandum on providing Ukraine with security guarantees in connection with its renunciation of the third largest nuclear potential and acquiring the status of a non-nuclear state. Since Ukraine did not see a military threat from other states, its armed forces were significantly reduced.

The fact that Ukraine has expressed a desire to become a member of NATO cannot be regarded as an enemy for Russia. This is just a far-fetched reason for military aggression by Putin and nothing more. After all, Russia had not previously attacked the Baltic countries - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia due to the fact that they joined NATO and thus NATO became at the borders of Russia. Russia is also not going to attack Sweden and Finland because of their decision last year to join NATO. Why such selectivity in the object of aggression?

The actual reasons for the attack on Ukraine by Russia were different, and this is not a threat from Ukraine. Putin imagined himself a great conqueror and collector of the lands of the collapsed USSR. The next ones would be Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, and then the rest of Georgia, the states of Central Asia, and so on. But Putin's plans fell through in Ukraine.
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I believe that it is obvious, the Kremlin underestimate the Ukrainian military and overestimated their own capabilities to win a war in weeks or less.
Actually, I have seen some news on YT which allegedly claim that people close to Putin have heard him say that he recognizes the lack of preparation of their troops, but he is glad they are discovering such flaw while them being the invaders and not the victims of a invasion.

Quite surreal, if you ask me. 

Let us see what happens in the future after this official visit of the Chinese Leader in Moscow..
Ukranian military isn't strong itself, they are strong because America and Europe helps them with better equipment and training. Russia is not as developed as western countries, in absolutely every aspect. Russia plays mind games, they aren't the best but they pretend to be to make apply psychological pressure on enemy.

I have heard that too. I don't know whether that's true or not but I think that too much dictatorship and fear pushes people to lie more and instead of telling the truth to dictator, these people are telling him what he wants to hear from them.
Maybe everything is clear for Putin and he just plays mind games, who knows.

USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
In this situation, in any case, Russia itself is to blame, not the United States. After all, Russia attacked Ukraine, and not vice versa. If Russia had not done such a stupid thing, it would still now continue to boast of its military power so much that all NATO members were afraid of it. The United States, of course, took advantage of the situation, helped Ukraine and did not allow Russia to capture it. But after all, it was necessary to calculate everything in advance, and not use impudence, as Putin did. And now almost nothing can be changed. The Russian army was defeated, and the mobilization of 300,000 people did not help Putin either. Russia is now sorely lacking in heavy military equipment and ammunition, trying to beg all over the world.
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To be honest, attack from their side is understandable. When your enemy comes near to your borders, any country that is capable to do so, would do what Russia did. But here is a thing that is often ignored in conversations. Russia is a country with low standards of living and this country wants to conquer another country. When the citizen of Ukraine sees that Russia can't take care of itself and improve life inside, what kind of benefit can Ukraine expect by joining Russia? But USA and Europe (EU countries), on another hand, are very well-developed countries with high standard of living. If these countries conquer Ukraine, for example, Ukraine loses nothing but gains American or EU culture and high standard of life similar to theirs.
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I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
In this situation, in any case, Russia itself is to blame, not the United States. After all, Russia attacked Ukraine, and not vice versa. If Russia had not done such a stupid thing, it would still now continue to boast of its military power so much that all NATO members were afraid of it. The United States, of course, took advantage of the situation, helped Ukraine and did not allow Russia to capture it. But after all, it was necessary to calculate everything in advance, and not use impudence, as Putin did. And now almost nothing can be changed. The Russian army was defeated, and the mobilization of 300,000 people did not help Putin either. Russia is now sorely lacking in heavy military equipment and ammunition, trying to beg all over the world.
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In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.
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I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
Russia is not a powerful state. I think it's clear for everyone how old their technique is and how their aim to conquer Ukraine in max three days has failed. One year has passed and they still aren't able to conquer Ukraine, which means, nothing is going according to their plans. They were bluffing all the time, they strength was their shadow and a nuclear weapon but it's something no one wants to happen also.

I believe that it is obvious, the Kremlin underestimate the Ukrainian military and overestimated their own capabilities to win a war in weeks or less.
Actually, I have seen some news on YT which allegedly claim that people close to Putin have heard him say that he recognizes the lack of preparation of their troops, but he is glad they are discovering such flaw while them being the invaders and not the victims of a invasion.

Quite surreal, if you ask me. 

Let us see what happens in the future after this official visit of the Chinese Leader in Moscow..
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There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobilized to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.
Russia has already concentrated about 95 percent of its troops in the occupied part of Ukraine, which has significantly weakened the defense of its own territory. The predominant mobilization for the war in Ukraine not from the central, but from remote areas of Russia, where they now receive the largest number of coffins from the war for Putin's imperial ambitions, causes great discontent among the population, and a liberation war from the oppression of the central government is brewing there. Of course, all states are watching this situation and the weakening of Russia, and especially those that still have territorial claims against Russia, especially Japan and China. China has already released a map with the former Chinese names of the cities of Siberia and the Far East, which previously belonged to China. At the most convenient moment, China will return its territories without much resistance from the Russian side. Today's Russia, it seems, will soon be torn apart.


Before Xi Jinping's visit to Moscow, the Chinese Ministry of Resources issued amazing maps. On them, a huge part of Russian territories is designated as "historical territories of China", and the names of cities and geographical objects are replaced with historical Chinese ones.
Although after the warrant for the arrest of the war criminal Putin, this may break, but the "bell" is very strong!
China just needs a greatly weakened Russia, its territories and its population. Primarily women of childbearing age. You probably know that in China there is a rather complicated and specific situation, and they need women of childbearing age. Residents of Russia, who are massively losing their husbands from the degradation of life and using them as "cannon fodder" in the war in Ukraine, are perfect for this role.
Read about the problem of declining population growth in China, and the prospects for this process, as well as trends in new URBAN Chinese families, which now account for more than 60% of all in the country ... China always looks to the future, and the distant one, and for him the loss of population growth is almost synonymous with the "death of the empire."

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-64868325
https://www.svoboda.org/a/malo-rybok-v-prudu-v-kitaye-zamedlilsya-rost-naseleniya/31288866.html


A neighbor like China is generally a very big challenge for Russia.... 

China has a very large population and a developed dynamic economy.  Having such a neighbor, one must conduct a very adequate foreign policy and maintain good relations with all other states. 

Practice shows that states cannot be divided into large and small, important and unimportant.  Snobbery and pride will not lead to good. 

I had to communicate with the Poles, historically they are not very fond of Russians, but the attitude towards you immediately changes if you talk to them politely, using the word "pan".  Politeness costs nothing to a polite person, but often saves him from trouble. 

A small country like Poland or Lithuania can cause huge trouble even to a superpower. 

Therefore, it is necessary to build partnerships with all countries, then China will not be a potential threat.


Here I will add that Russia itself "stirred up" a topic that, for example, in the post-war world, it was not customary to touch - it is the borders of states. And the First Russia again began the seizure of "new", supposedly "its historical" territories. And if you studied the history of the relationship between Moscow/USSR/RF and China, you know that approximately 25% of the territory of modern Russia can be attributed to such "historically Chinese" Smiley
But China is not a primitive "gopnik" (marginalized petty criminal), China always uses more thoughtful and far-sighted moves.
On the one hand, he can easily capture ALL of Russia very easily. On the other hand, then the "pet dog of Beijing" will disappear, which will carry out all the most idiotic orders, considering it to be China's support. Such a scarecrow for the West will disappear. It's like North Korea for the USA - they could have changed the government there a long time ago - but then there will be no one left to scare Congress and receive budgets for the military industry Smiley
Also, China needs Russia to be extremely intact but as weakened as possible - then it will be an ideal "slave of Beijing" - it will obey any order, Beijing's hands will be clean, if anything - it is possible to demonstratively punish the Kremlin's puppets. That is why Beijing's plan to regulate today's situation is essentially a "conflict freeze" with the goal of saving Russia from splitting into parts (due to external or internal factors)
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I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
Russia is not a powerful state. I think it's clear for everyone how old their technique is and how their aim to conquer Ukraine in max three days has failed. One year has passed and they still aren't able to conquer Ukraine, which means, nothing is going according to their plans. They were bluffing all the time, they strength was their shadow and a nuclear weapon but it's something no one wants to happen also.

A neighbor like China is generally a very big challenge for Russia.... 

China has a very large population and a developed dynamic economy.  Having such a neighbor, one must conduct a very adequate foreign policy and maintain good relations with all other states. 
Life in China sucks, life in Russia sucks. Life in Western countries is good, that's why everyone wants to join western world and that's why USSR wasn't letting people to leave its borders and that's why China cencors everything and closed its country. They don't want to see people how life looks outside, because then there will be a protest.
These two countries can join each-other and then destroy each-other with their own plans and ambitions.
Russia shouldn't forget that Germany is going to rebuild its military and China shouldn't forget that Japan is on the West side.
This Russian-Ukrainian conflict won't end up well and it's very, very bad.
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Green energy, not as easy as you say and imagine, is used all over the world, even though some countries have abundant natural resources, apart from Green Energy requiring a large economy, other factors must also be considered.
Example:
Overall Green Energy has technical weaknesses for Green Energy and also other factors, such as required storage such as batteries so that they are not wasted, weather factors, because Green Energy is taken from various natural resources, plants, water and so on, not to mention the capacity of Green Energy users such as companies that require large amounts of electricity, I'm sure Green Energy can't handle all that.

China & EU can't shake the world, if you talk about Energy, oil and economy, the world has what China & EU don't have, they can't rule the world.

I agree with you, it is still too early for China and the EU to beat America and Russia in terms of energy sources, in general they have great power and many countries need energy sources and these two countries contribute greatly as oil energy suppliers, so it is still far to be able to overtake or even replace the main energy source to become alternative energy like this green energy, but to become a rival in the future does not rule out there will be intense competition between the two, all of them are countries that have great power in this regard.
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Do you know who is the largest investor in the development of green technologies and alternative energy? UAE! They are leaders in renewable energy... They have a $27 billion Dubai Green Energy Fund. it is necessary to lay the foundation of a new era, the era of alternative energy...
This is a really interesting turn of events in the field of green energy development. The economic development of the UAE is determined by large oil production, which provides the majority of government revenues and almost all foreign exchange earnings. Thanks to the accelerated development of the oil and gas industry, the UAE has achieved the highest average annual income per capita of the indigenous population among the states of the Arabian Peninsula. This state, most likely, unlike Russia, also relies on the development of technologies that will ensure the further development of this country. A very wise decision. After all, oil and gas can be used not only as a fuel, but also as a raw material for many industries.
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There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobilized to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.
Russia has already concentrated about 95 percent of its troops in the occupied part of Ukraine, which has significantly weakened the defense of its own territory. The predominant mobilization for the war in Ukraine not from the central, but from remote areas of Russia, where they now receive the largest number of coffins from the war for Putin's imperial ambitions, causes great discontent among the population, and a liberation war from the oppression of the central government is brewing there. Of course, all states are watching this situation and the weakening of Russia, and especially those that still have territorial claims against Russia, especially Japan and China. China has already released a map with the former Chinese names of the cities of Siberia and the Far East, which previously belonged to China. At the most convenient moment, China will return its territories without much resistance from the Russian side. Today's Russia, it seems, will soon be torn apart.


Before Xi Jinping's visit to Moscow, the Chinese Ministry of Resources issued amazing maps. On them, a huge part of Russian territories is designated as "historical territories of China", and the names of cities and geographical objects are replaced with historical Chinese ones.
Although after the warrant for the arrest of the war criminal Putin, this may break, but the "bell" is very strong!
China just needs a greatly weakened Russia, its territories and its population. Primarily women of childbearing age. You probably know that in China there is a rather complicated and specific situation, and they need women of childbearing age. Residents of Russia, who are massively losing their husbands from the degradation of life and using them as "cannon fodder" in the war in Ukraine, are perfect for this role.
Read about the problem of declining population growth in China, and the prospects for this process, as well as trends in new URBAN Chinese families, which now account for more than 60% of all in the country ... China always looks to the future, and the distant one, and for him the loss of population growth is almost synonymous with the "death of the empire."

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-64868325
https://www.svoboda.org/a/malo-rybok-v-prudu-v-kitaye-zamedlilsya-rost-naseleniya/31288866.html


A neighbor like China is generally a very big challenge for Russia.... 

China has a very large population and a developed dynamic economy.  Having such a neighbor, one must conduct a very adequate foreign policy and maintain good relations with all other states. 

Practice shows that states cannot be divided into large and small, important and unimportant.  Snobbery and pride will not lead to good. 

I had to communicate with the Poles, historically they are not very fond of Russians, but the attitude towards you immediately changes if you talk to them politely, using the word "pan".  Politeness costs nothing to a polite person, but often saves him from trouble. 

A small country like Poland or Lithuania can cause huge trouble even to a superpower. 

Therefore, it is necessary to build partnerships with all countries, then China will not be a potential threat.
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There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobilized to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.
Russia has already concentrated about 95 percent of its troops in the occupied part of Ukraine, which has significantly weakened the defense of its own territory. The predominant mobilization for the war in Ukraine not from the central, but from remote areas of Russia, where they now receive the largest number of coffins from the war for Putin's imperial ambitions, causes great discontent among the population, and a liberation war from the oppression of the central government is brewing there. Of course, all states are watching this situation and the weakening of Russia, and especially those that still have territorial claims against Russia, especially Japan and China. China has already released a map with the former Chinese names of the cities of Siberia and the Far East, which previously belonged to China. At the most convenient moment, China will return its territories without much resistance from the Russian side. Today's Russia, it seems, will soon be torn apart.


Before Xi Jinping's visit to Moscow, the Chinese Ministry of Resources issued amazing maps. On them, a huge part of Russian territories is designated as "historical territories of China", and the names of cities and geographical objects are replaced with historical Chinese ones.
Although after the warrant for the arrest of the war criminal Putin, this may break, but the "bell" is very strong!
China just needs a greatly weakened Russia, its territories and its population. Primarily women of childbearing age. You probably know that in China there is a rather complicated and specific situation, and they need women of childbearing age. Residents of Russia, who are massively losing their husbands from the degradation of life and using them as "cannon fodder" in the war in Ukraine, are perfect for this role.
Read about the problem of declining population growth in China, and the prospects for this process, as well as trends in new URBAN Chinese families, which now account for more than 60% of all in the country ... China always looks to the future, and the distant one, and for him the loss of population growth is almost synonymous with the "death of the empire."

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-64868325
https://www.svoboda.org/a/malo-rybok-v-prudu-v-kitaye-zamedlilsya-rost-naseleniya/31288866.html
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There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobalised to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.
Russia has already concentrated about 95 percent of its troops in the occupied part of Ukraine, which has significantly weakened the defense of its own territory. The predominant mobilization for the war in Ukraine not from the central, but from remote areas of Russia, where they now receive the largest number of coffins from the war for Putin's imperial ambitions, causes great discontent among the population, and a liberation war from the oppression of the central government is brewing there. Of course, all states are watching this situation and the weakening of Russia, and especially those that still have territorial claims against Russia, especially Japan and China. China has already released a map with the former Chinese names of the cities of Siberia and the Far East, which previously belonged to China. At the most convenient moment, China will return its territories without much resistance from the Russian side. Today's Russia, it seems, will soon be torn apart.
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I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.
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February 27, 2023, 02:33:16 PM
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But what is it gaining? It is gaining credibility! That can't be converted into any currency, that is true. But as a citizen, I would love my administration to have principles and base lines that they live up to. This is what is happening.

I would say that Europe is mostly gaining energy independence from Russia, besides an acceleration towards the transition towards clean/green energy.
What do you mean exactly when you say Europe is gaining credibility from all this situation going on? Wasn't Europe credible enough before?
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February 26, 2023, 07:28:12 AM
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If you read or hear the news that most countries started to set goals of having zero carbon emissions by the set year. Including China as well. But It will happen in the next decade or even a couple of decades ahead.

But for now, they will fight for the energy like from the past of century. and what we can do for now is save energy as much as possible. good to us and good for the planet

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The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia.

If you put it that way, it is easier to see. China may the only one who is indirectly benefiting from this messy situation.
The United States is sending billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.
Europe is losing cheap energy and struggling to transition, since need to go faster than expected.
Russia is getting sanctions and losing their soldiers.
Ukraine is losing soldiers as well and civilians.

China is getting cheap gas/oil, they just need to take care of their usual rivalry with USA.

This sounds like half of the story to me.

Europe is losing cheap energy, true. But it is also winning independence the price of which can't yet be fully known.

But what is it gaining? It is gaining credibility! That can't be converted into any currency, that is true. But as a citizen, I would love my administration to have principles and base lines that they live up to. This is what is happening.
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February 24, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
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If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.
Green energy, not as easy as you say and imagine, is used all over the world, even though some countries have abundant natural resources, apart from Green Energy requiring a large economy, other factors must also be considered.
Example:
Overall Green Energy has technical weaknesses for Green Energy and also other factors, such as required storage such as batteries so that they are not wasted, weather factors, because Green Energy is taken from various natural resources, plants, water and so on, not to mention the capacity of Green Energy users such as companies that require large amounts of electricity, I'm sure Green Energy can't handle all that.

China & EU can't shake the world, if you talk about Energy, oil and economy, the world has what China & EU don't have, they can't rule the world.

This is true, although people aim to create and use green energy, it also has many limitations and I believe it will never replace the current energy source. My country has built a lot of large windmills to generate wind energy, but in recent years they have found that blocking the direction of the wind creates a lot of weather instability that affects crops, is expensive to maintain...and they started dismantling it all.
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China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.


It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.

This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.

Yes, but with a few caveats.
1. Yes, China, "thanks" to the fact that Russia "shot itself in the foot", showing the whole world its fakeness in everything (from the economy to the quality of weapons and the army), let China into the bipolar world. And China no longer mentions Russia when it talks about a bipolar world. In his vision - in such a world there are 2 superstates - the USA and China, and the rest - should listen to them.
2. On the other hand, the total loss of Russia, for China, carries reputational and situational risks. China is very unhappy that Russia, with its terrorist attack on Ukraine, rallied the WEST, actually resurrected NATO, and restarted the military industry of the West.
That is why China now needs to weaken the forces of Russia as much as possible. Although Russia is an appendage of China, it can still provide some danger to China. Therefore, China comes forward with its "peace initiative", and they will offer to create support for Ukraine, sit down at the negotiating table, negotiate, and, well, obey China. Otherwise - the collapse, the total collapse of Russia - is very close. And then China will lose both the "guinea pig", and the "raw material appendage", and the puppet through which China can influence the international arena
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The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.


Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.

Nuclear energy is one of the most efficient forms of energy there is with modern nuclear technology but the climate change radicals sometimes don't consider that to be a viable option for whatever reason.

EV's aren't part of the solution for clean energy consumption because of the raw materials needed to manufacture batteries and the fact that EV's are charged through fossil fuels. EV's just give people a temporary solution to a problem they've created. These people have not even considered whether electrical grids could handle the strain that EV's would introduce either.

If they were serious, they'd adopt nuclear energy.
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This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.

It gets China in a good position militarily too, and might've decreased their chances of having an unstable boarder with Russia that doesn't favour them.

There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobalised to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.
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It is easier said than done! Green energy is highly costly to set up so it needs a substantial upfront investment. Also, it is not very cost-effective for a highly populated country like China. EU can make it happen due to the small population and higher per capita income, but for countries like China, it's a distant dream unless they figure out a way to reduce the upfront investment to generate green energy.

As per some reports, US holds the highest oil reserve in the world, even bigger than Venezuela, Saudi, and Russia put together.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-has-the-worlds-largest-oil-reserves-2016-7?IR=T

These are just hidden by the US government for now. Probably a long-term gameplan to maintain world dominance.



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The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia.

If you put it that way, it is easier to see. China may the only one who is indirectly benefiting from this messy situation.
The United States is sending billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.
Europe is losing cheap energy and struggling to transition, since need to go faster than expected.
Russia is getting sanctions and losing their soldiers.
Ukraine is losing soldiers as well and civilians.

China is getting cheap gas/oil, they just need to take care of their usual rivalry with USA.
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China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.


It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.

This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.
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February 22, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
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Green energy is mostly solar power.
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I would like to see some sources for this. From what i gather it's mostly hydropower and wind energy. Solar surely has been growing a lot but so far it's not been without challenges. I am certain at some point it won't be as expensive as panels gets more cheaper efficient and durable and maybe self-cleaning.
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February 22, 2023, 04:53:42 PM
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China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.


It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.
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Currently, the transition to green energy has slowed down. 

This is due to two important factors. 

First, the global system of globalization has collapsed in the world.  It is possible to follow the path of scientific and technological progress very quickly if different countries cooperate with each other.  In an atmosphere of general suspicion and confrontation, this is much more difficult to do. 

Secondly, at present, the world has very high prices for traditional energy carriers. 

This forces countries to reduce investment in green energy, as money is spent on purchasing expensive natural gas and oil, building tankers that can transport liquefied gas, building gas storage facilities, etc.
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Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.
Of course, the future belongs to alternative energy sources and the most significant place among them is solar panels, the production of which is getting cheaper thanks to new technologies. So, scientists from the University of Rochester were able to develop a new method to increase the efficiency of the solar cell material. Silicon is usually used as the basis for solar panel development, because it is found in abundance in nature and has an excellent ability to convert sunlight into energy. However, the researchers decided to use in the development of panels a forgotten, but not lost relevance mineral - perovskite - a source of titanium, niobium and a number of other elements. It is quite famous for its crystal structure. If we use perovskite instead of silicon in solar panels, then the energy efficiency immediately triples. Probably, and this is far from the limit.

If technologies continue to improve further, then hydrocarbon energy sources can be forgotten. Of course, oil and gas can be used in various industries, up to the food industry, but not on the current huge scale. Therefore, Russia in this regard will lose its former significance and greatness.
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The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.


Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.
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February 17, 2023, 12:07:39 PM
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One of the best choices every country can make right now is to switch to green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals. It has been one of the strategies developed by experts to protect the world, but the challenge right now is that the project has been very expensive to implement. It started with trying to get rid of fossil fuel vehicles and developing electric cars, but not everyone can afford them. Now the issue with solar generating electricity, which not all countries can afford, the vision is good but lacks resources, especially for my region, countries like Russia, China, the USA, and many more to some extent have the resources.
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February 17, 2023, 10:55:24 AM
#5
1. The dominance of Russia - this point, in the current situation, you can cross it out without hesitation Smiley A fake country, a raw materials appendage country, a rogue country. What dominance? Now the question is - will this state formation remain on the map or will it fall apart into many independent republics ...
2. 21st century - the century of sunset of the hydrocarbon era. Thermonuclear fusion, green energy and so on - will replace 90% of the rest. The internal combustion engine still remains in the field of heavy vehicles and shipbuilding, but this is also a question for 20-30 years, if not less. Everything else migrates to electric motors.
3. Do you know who is the largest investor in the development of green technologies and alternative energy? UAE! They are leaders in renewable energy... They have a $27 billion Dubai Green Energy Fund. it is necessary to lay the foundation of a new era, the era of alternative energy...
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February 17, 2023, 01:47:03 AM
#4
Previously, no one paid much attention to alternative energy sources. Moreover, oil and gas corporations did everything possible to prevent such alternative ways of generating energy from appearing. For this, inventions were bought and subsequently destroyed, or simply inventors were killed more often under the guise of accidents. But now the situation has changed largely due to the fact that the world's oil and gas reserves are being depleted at a very rapid pace and the transition to other types of energy, such as solar, wind, geothermal and others, has simply become overripe in its decision. Moreover, now, for example, the production of solar panels is constantly getting cheaper due to the emergence of better technologies and their efficiency is steadily growing. So in any case, the world will switch to green energy, regardless of the aspirations of individual states. This is also required by the rapid climate change on our planet.
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February 16, 2023, 12:04:25 PM
#3
If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.
Green energy, not as easy as you say and imagine, is used all over the world, even though some countries have abundant natural resources, apart from Green Energy requiring a large economy, other factors must also be considered.
Example:
Overall Green Energy has technical weaknesses for Green Energy and also other factors, such as required storage such as batteries so that they are not wasted, weather factors, because Green Energy is taken from various natural resources, plants, water and so on, not to mention the capacity of Green Energy users such as companies that require large amounts of electricity, I'm sure Green Energy can't handle all that.

China & EU can't shake the world, if you talk about Energy, oil and economy, the world has what China & EU don't have, they can't rule the world.
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February 16, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
#2
China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.

Russia would already have been using its power to prevent green energy, it's greatest influence was probably the fact it was peaceful and countries thought they'd be a reliable (/ethical) source of oil which they've now disproven.
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February 16, 2023, 09:06:14 AM
#1
The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

And If war ends then russia and USA economy dont do so good neither the arab mirates like UEA.

But world moving towards Green energy so the safest bet might be crypto and EU china assets and stock market.

The USA and russia destiny is umkown and world moving towards Green energy.

China is Also more Green energy like.
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