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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

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Probably it's time to get the next gain-of-function goodie spread around so they can start in on the endless boosters.

That they can blame 'the people' with all of their uncaring negligence in wanting to get out of their house arrests and muzzles for a few hours is an added bonus. Bad bad people. It's all your fault. The government tried so hard to protect you guys, and look what you've gone and done now. Shame on you!

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What I have read about herd immunity is that you need to fully vaccinate 75% to 85% of the population to achieve it. And looking at the vaccination numbers, it looks as if England is a long way away from that figure. They have fully vaccinated 51% of the total population. I am OK with restarting the economy on a limited scale. But allowing crowd in to sports events is not something that I would recommend at the moment. Most of the revenue comes from broadcast deals and it doesn't make any sense to allow fans in to the stadiums.

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You know, I never took real interest in the situation at the stadium until, after I saw this thread. Mehn, it was as though there was nothing like Covid-19 pandemic. The whole stadium was filled with spectators that were not following any Covid-19 guidelines. At one point I had to ask myself if the pandemic was over or even, if there is anything a pandemic amongst us still. Life felt so normal or perhaps, they've developed the immunity to live with the virus and we are just the once being backward.
On thing is for sure, the rest of the world would meet up with the development and after the whole event, we are sure to hear something cone off the news on this issue. Let's be safe.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 04, 2021, 12:07:52 AM

Even as per your analysis, the potential risk is low but why take risk which can be easily avoided ?
The stadiums should not be allowed more than 50% of the capacity and wearing of mask inside the stadium should be mandatory. We don't see any sign of mask anywhere in the crowd Sad

As said above, UK simply can't sacrifice such big event, so, they had to accept all potential risks. after few weeks we will see, did Euro had influence to number of Covid cases. And actually, it's required to wear masks in stadium, but seems that this rule iesn't strictly enforced.
And if UK wouldn't had increased number of spectators from 25% to 75%, it's very likely that semfinals and final would be moved to other city, like Budapest, where they allowed to fill stadium 100%

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I confess that I thought that the uk had already vaccinated the entire population and that for this reason they decided to run the risk of allowing so many people to watch the games, with this delta variant they should not allow entry of people who have not yet been vaccinated

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on July 05, 2021, 06:33:31 PM

We will see the aftermath after this event is over. And for sure, we will see blame game here. Officials throwing their accusations to those who are responsible for the event. Right now, they are enjoying the games but let us see once this is over. I hope people from the audience are at least following health protocols, otherwise, it is on them, if they got infected.

I think the officials are keeping an close eye on the corona numbers are the final this weekend. It will likely take 2 weeks for the numbers to rise and show if the event was a bad idea. Another thing is that we don't know which teams will be in the finals yet. If England is playing in the finals then there will be tons of local fans and nobody will care for the corona safety measures.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

Nope, they haven't. it's just that the government cannot sacrifice such a big event which seems more important for them than the safety of their countrymen from the threat of the new covid-19 variant. It is truly disappointing to see such governing by the leader and the officials. It seems like the world hasn't learn its lesson yet despite of what has happened in India. I bet that after such a huge event, the rise on covid-19 cases will increase even more. It's just sad to think that people who stay at home and only go out when the reason is important gets dragged along by the people who are careless and leaders that do not care about their own people. :/

We will see the aftermath after this event is over. And for sure, we will see blame game here. Officials throwing their accusations to those who are responsible for the event. Right now, they are enjoying the games but let us see once this is over. I hope people from the audience are at least following health protocols, otherwise, it is on them, if they got infected.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

Nope, they haven't. it's just that the government cannot sacrifice such a big event which seems more important for them than the safety of their countrymen from the threat of the new covid-19 variant. It is truly disappointing to see such governing by the leader and the officials. It seems like the world hasn't learn its lesson yet despite of what has happened in India. I bet that after such a huge event, the rise on covid-19 cases will increase even more. It's just sad to think that people who stay at home and only go out when the reason is important gets dragged along by the people who are careless and leaders that do not care about their own people. :/

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 04, 2021, 12:07:52 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on July 03, 2021, 04:42:14 PM

Actually, in England there is no fuill stadium - Wembley was filled only up to 25% of capacity. On semfinals and final it will be filled up to 75%. In other cities stadiums are filled from 20% to 50% of capacity. Only in Copenhagen stadium was filled up to 75% and in Budapest it was 100% full. But I think that in these cities spectators had to be vaccinated or to have negative test to enter.
Yes, in England situation may be not that good, but to enter stadium negative test result or proof of vaccination is required, so I don't think that potential risk is big:
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/025b-0ef33753d7d0-100629325be2-1000--key-information-for-euro-spectators/

Even as per your analysis, the potential risk is low but why take risk which can be easily avoided ?
The stadiums should not be allowed more than 50% of the capacity and wearing of mask inside the stadium should be mandatory. We don't see any sign of mask anywhere in the crowd Sad

I don't know how the British government enforces this in the 2020 euro competition even what I see in every English stadium game most people don't wear masks are they okay? even though the potential for new delta transmission is very fast and cases have been increasing this week, I can't believe it will become a big case after Euro 2020 ends.

With a capacity of 25%, it's also big considering that at the Wemblay stadium, there will probably be more in the final and even though they have shown evidence of a negative test, it doesn't guarantee that it will continue to be negative if it continues to crowd in large numbers.

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Is there really any country that have overcome the plague of the pandemic, I think not. Definitely, not the UK as they've got an issue with a mutating strand still being investigated and controlled.
The issue of crowed stadiums is not a news anymore and its qn attempt to go back to the way of doing things despite the hold the pandemic has had on the world for over a year now.
I've not been to a stadium lately but have been in a crowed structure where, we were all tested and certified to be negative before allowing entrance and then, should we be tested negative, there was little point in proceeding ourselves. Sure we did but not as strict as I is expected. So, I can imagine or believe same scenario for the stadiums. Its got to be the same thing.

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It's good for the Countries image, economy and business ties to go ahead and host thousands of internationals the executives of which did not quarantine.

As you can imagine for those who refrained from seeing elderly relatives and lost them through lockdown, the taste is bitter. Especially when you see the likes of Matt Wancock not even abiding by his own rules.

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Quote from: hornetsnest on July 03, 2021, 07:00:43 PM

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dude be careful with those things that involve cults because you can get paranoid and crazy and the people who love you will walk away from you, i think you wouldn't be happy alone, i say alone because being with fanatical people of these kinds of things never comes good thing

I confess that I thought that the uk had already vaccinated the entire population and that for this reason they decided to run the risk of allowing so many people to watch the games, with this delta variant they should not allow entry of people who have not yet been vaccinated

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Quote from: Natsuu on July 03, 2021, 11:38:40 AM

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Yes people can get infected with covid or the new variant, but the vaccine already proves that it will only be a minor flu if someone vaccinated gets infected.

Give people enough fear, and they can fear infect themselves with just about anything.

That's why there are sources out there to ease the fear. Learning about the things you fear will ease it and you will learn the things you need to fear the most.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on July 03, 2021, 04:42:14 PM

Actually, in England there is no fuill stadium - Wembley was filled only up to 25% of capacity. On semfinals and final it will be filled up to 75%. In other cities stadiums are filled from 20% to 50% of capacity. Only in Copenhagen stadium was filled up to 75% and in Budapest it was 100% full. But I think that in these cities spectators had to be vaccinated or to have negative test to enter.
Yes, in England situation may be not that good, but to enter stadium negative test result or proof of vaccination is required, so I don't think that potential risk is big:
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/025b-0ef33753d7d0-100629325be2-1000--key-information-for-euro-spectators/

Even as per your analysis, the potential risk is low but why take risk which can be easily avoided ?
The stadiums should not be allowed more than 50% of the capacity and wearing of mask inside the stadium should be mandatory. We don't see any sign of mask anywhere in the crowd Sad

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 03, 2021, 04:54:33 PM

The good news though is that because of the high vaccination rate, it means that the rising case numbers are generally amongst unvaccinated people, which means mostly young people who on average have less sevre symptoms. This is why although case numbers are high and increasing, hospitalisations and deaths remain very low.

I hope that the other countries that still has a lot of unvaccinated people will learn the situation from countries that have made a lot of vaccinations already.
How I wish that most of the countries will turn again with some of these events like this and can go back with crowded places when most people are already immnune due to the vaccine shots.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

No, we haven't. We have very high vaccination rates, but also rapidly rising case numbers due to the more transmissible delta variant. Essentially it's a race between the virus and the vaccine to see whether or not we can achieve effective herd immunity. I think the rest of the world probably views the UK as a test case.

The good news though is that because of the high vaccination rate, it means that the rising case numbers are generally amongst unvaccinated people, which means mostly young people who on average have less sevre symptoms. This is why although case numbers are high and increasing, hospitalisations and deaths remain very low.

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Actually, in England there is no fuill stadium - Wembley was filled only up to 25% of capacity. On semfinals and final it will be filled up to 75%. In other cities stadiums are filled from 20% to 50% of capacity. Only in Copenhagen stadium was filled up to 75% and in Budapest it was 100% full. But I think that in these cities spectators had to be vaccinated or to have negative test to enter.
Yes, in England situation may be not that good, but to enter stadium negative test result or proof of vaccination is required, so I don't think that potential risk is big:
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/025b-0ef33753d7d0-100629325be2-1000--key-information-for-euro-spectators/

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Quote from: Natsuu on July 03, 2021, 11:38:40 AM

^^^

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Yes people can get infected with covid or the new variant, but the vaccine already proves that it will only be a minor flu if someone vaccinated gets infected.

Give people enough fear, and they can fear infect themselves with just about anything.

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^^^

I agree with Mauser about the government testing the capabilities of the vaccine in the case of going back to normal.

Though in my own opinion, it is also a test to see if the delta variant will have different effect as researches shown that the vaccine is capable of resisting deadly symptoms from the new variant.

Yes people can get infected with covid or the new variant, but the vaccine already proves that it will only be a minor flu if someone vaccinated gets infected.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 03, 2021, 09:17:56 AM

Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

No UK hasn't overcome the pandemic. They have a problem with the delta variant at the moment which is rising. The Euro 2020 is the first large scale football event again. From the pictures we see that most people are nkt wearing a mask anymore. The government is aware of the safety risks and uses the event as a trial run. If corona cases are going to soar in 2 weeks, we will likely see harder measures again.

The covid-19 cases are usually identified within the 14 days of the exposure. So if the UK government isn't stopping people to follow the covid protocol and then start the lockdown again after 2 weeks when the number of cases arises, then who cares. The damage would already have been done.

However for the government, the Euro 2020 will be ended by that time and hence the event will be completed successfully with full crowds. Job accomplished.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 03, 2021, 05:12:17 AM

I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

No UK hasn't overcome the pandemic. They have a problem with the delta variant at the moment which is rising. The Euro 2020 is the first large scale football event again. From the pictures we see that most people are nkt wearing a mask anymore. The government is aware of the safety risks and uses the event as a trial run. If corona cases are going to soar in 2 weeks, we will likely see harder measures again.

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I hope many of you are watching the Euro 2020 these days. By looking at the matches and full crowd attendance, it seems that there was no Covid-19 in England ever.
How can they allow full crowd attendance in the games and we have witness jam packed stadiums with no one wearing a mask ?

Has UK overcome the pandemic Huh

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