Topic: Eurovision 2024 bets (Read 534 times)

Croatia has been rising to the top again ever since the rehearsals.  It was only a matter of time before they claimed the #1 spot, which happened last night after the first semi-final recap was released.  Looking at the latest odds, we see big shifts since yesterday.  Croatia now sits atop the leaderboard, with bookies offering them between 3-3.25 odds to win Eurovision for the first time ever. 

Switzerland was knocked out of first place for once after holding strong there since March and  bets on Switzerland and Nemo winning are now between 3.75-4.5   

Italy also lost ground with Ukraine jumping past them quickly.  You can get around 6-7 odds if you think Angelina Mango has a shot, while bets on Ukraine winning are 4.5-5.5 now.

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites:

1. Croatia 3   
2. Switzerland 4   
3. Ukraine 5.5   
4. Italy 6.5   
5. Netherlands 10   
6. France 17
7. Israel 23   
8. Ireland 23   
9. Greece 34
10. United Kingdom 41   

I like when songs have hidden message, but I'm not really sure that it may help. If you look at average Eurovision viewers knows these details, most of them here song for the first time and then vote. It's more about hardcore fans.
Now looked at odds, it's changed a bit since I checked last time. Switzerland is ranked highest, personally don't like it at all.
But I see that most contraversial entry Israel is ranked not bad, they can reach top 10. There is lot of people against them, but at the same time I think they will get quite a lot support.

I think the Oscars are even more biased than the Eurovision song contest. Oscars are even more biased and ideologically seclined.

Oscars are made by the so called academy and they pick nearly exclusively American film. At least with the Eurovision people can be heard in the vote and the result isn't so much about showcasing a nationally superior image above everyone else as American films do so one sided in their world view.

Agreed, and i don't know how we could avoid politics here. Israel was fist rejected because their entry was too political, so they changed it... twice. In 2009 Georgia was kicked out because because they refused to change lyrics. Their entry was called "We Don't Wanna Put In".

And even though Eurovision sees themselves as apolitical platform, they can't avoid the fact that voters will be politically motivated, because countries in them can have conflicts with each other. Like long conflict with Russia and Ukraine or Armenia and Azerbaijan. Neighbouring countries without conflicts often support each other, so one could see that regionally political as well. Personally i see political angle as unavoidable and i really don't even care about it. It's not like songs can compete to be objectively best in any meaningful way anyway. Opinions are biased by politics, because everything really is politics.

The cheat sheet for who wins will be similar to the oscars, look for the theme.  We have a few wars ongoing at present etc.  so a peace theme might easily gain a global consensus which will secure the majority of votes over just a normal song that is ok in a pop way.   I reckon this is how it will go down this year especially with so many possibilities, they'll want some united positive type themed song and on average it will collect the most votes.


Remote as Israel might seem from Europe, the troubles ongoing will be a part of this contest so some discussion around this is inevitably going to occur.  Hence I do think some peace type anthem wins or some similar theme.

4.8m views Hurricane.   I like it tbh so post if theres a better song -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYn09tuPw4

Well, I just read this Reddit post discussing hidden meaning in the Eurovision entry from Greece .  Honestly pretty intriguing stuff - I'm a sucker for Eurovision songs that make you think beyond just boppin' your head to a catchy beat and  seems a lot of times the straight up pop bangers take the cake, but this Greek tune is sparking some neat discussions apparently.  Makes me curious if this Zari track might shock people! Cause in Eurovision, heck - wild things can happen outta nowhere. 

In Greece there's been a viral reddit post going around where the author claimed to have cracked the code about what our entry's song actually means.

At first Zari sounds like a lovesong but when you look at the video and also then go back to the lyrics it makes more sense. Basically the video is kitsch depictions of recent Greek events that were overproduced such as the euro 2004 Greece win. Past glories in Short. All these are in proud display in the video and a tourist is shown in a rally car touring Greece.

According to that poster's analysis basically the meaning of the song is that while tourists come here to have fun, and we kinda depend on them because it's become our biggest industry, also we're suffering because of very high rent, low wages and even drinking water shortages due to tourism. Where the song says "I pretend I forget your aroma" it's an analogy to what we could achieve if we break from certain boundaries set on us by forgetting what we know, which is symbolic also because it's impossible to erase the memory of a smell as the human mind holds it forever. But if Marina can forget an aroma, maybe a country could overcome its burdens too.

It's a very weird discourse but the supposed hidden meaning of the song. But it has overall increased the popularity of the song locally. Not sure if this local vitality can translate to success in the competition also though.

The competition to win Eurovision is starting to get intense, and you can see it in how the betting odds are changing! Based on the latest from Eurovisionworld, Switzerland's got the best chance right now with "The Code" by Nemo.  Not far behind them is Croatia's "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" by Baby Lasagna, and the Netherlands is in third with "Europapa" by Joost Klein.   

Of course just because they're on top now doesnt mean they'll stay there.  Italy is in a close fourth, at the moment. And it's never smart to fully count out Ukraine either.

Things are still wide open!

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites:

1. Switzerland 2.88   
2. Croatia 4.5   
3. Netherlands 4.5   
4. Italy 7   
5. Ukraine 11   
6. France 17
7. Israel 29   
8. Greece 29
9. Ireland 34   
10. Belgium 101   

I think Swiss will win it this year because they already had a great chance 2 years ago to win it but they ended on 3rd place I think and that was the first sign for me that Swiss is finally bringing super talented singers in order to win the trophy so no wonder why the bookies are favoring them here.

However, everything can change when we have the finals songs ready and I'm sure odds will change as well.

I could agree with you but if they are as nasty as you say, people through televotes and juries won't vote for them and they will get a severe loss. I'm quite surprising to not see Netherlands at a better rank while they've got a huge amount of streaming on Spotify. And I wonder why bookmakers don't take that into account, do they think those numbers are fake? That is to say bots are listening them actually in order to inflate the figures.

Sorry if this might be too political but I am surprised that Israel was allowed to join in the end. a country who is indiscriminately killing women, children, humanitarian aid workers, etc... sand is being brought to court for war crimes hould not be allowed to join.

I feel like Netherlands will be a strong contender, they have a catchy song and is gaining a lot of traction in the social media.

Yeah, Switzerland's moved to #1 on the betting odds, but I ain't buying it.  They might crack the top 10 at best in my book and  the song's got some good parts, but other bits and the whole performance is just too out there for me.  I dunno, weirdness is what some folks dig but I figure Croatias still got the edge with the televoters.  Could come down to the jury messing stuff up in the end though.

Seems like the tables have turned a bit:


Now Switzerland is first on the odds and Croatia and Italy follow closely.
In my opinion Switzerland surely has an interesting song but is it deserving of the win? Dunno.
I think Switzerland is in a bit of a tough spot because there's little to no regional alliance that will give them many max point votes. Like who do you have in mind giving Switzerland 12 point votes?
Germany? Austria? I'm sure not France because while there's a French speaking part but from what I'm aware most French people dislike them quite a bit.

Sad a song contest works like this but what can you do.

Speaking of actual songs though and not politics, Switzerland's song maybe was the last to be announced officially? Good strategy maybe as they're now first on the odds. The song has a breakdown which to me is a big lackluster for all the buildup, but the vocals lyrics and composition are very good and the ones that wrote the song must also be very talented as is the singer. I'm sure he could see some success even outside of eurovision, unlike many one shot artists in it

You should be careful because sometimes some songs perform really poorly during the contest but after it, they encounter a nice success. In 2022 it has been the case with Rosa Linn from Armenia and her song SNAP. The song had a great success through Europe and around the world but she only ranked at the 20th position during the competition.
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Yeah, I still remember this song - I hear it on radio quite often, probably more frequent than some songs which won in recent years. And in general, some songs which perform quite poorly in Eurovision is getting lot attention on Spotify, radio charts and etc.
But usually bookmers don't make mistakes with picking main favorites.

You should be careful because sometimes some songs perform really poorly during the contest but after it, they encounter a nice success. In 2022 it has been the case with Rosa Linn from Armenia and her song SNAP. The song had a great success through Europe and around the world but she only ranked at the 20th position during the competition.

I did not expect Angelina Mango to surge into second place.  I enjoy her song La noia but Im not sure it has Eurovision winner written on it.

Croatia and Baby Lasagna still holding the top spot, fascinating! Is it just a catchy beat or the novelty aspect hooking people? Either way, it's definitely stirring up the competition.

Seeing Ukraine knocked out bummed me out - Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil were my dark horse picks.

Anyone else surprised by the current standings? What do you think are Angelina's odds to win it all?

Dunno maybe I'm romanticizing things but I remember that in past competitions there used to be more than one favorites, plenty of songs that were objectively good and fit several styles. And quite often an outlier would win too. The quality of the competition has degraded a bit lately. Not only is it less entertaining to watch but also songs are soooo forgettable. Most Eurovision songs that are remembered as "good" are from many years ago. And it's a challenge to remember the lyrics or the beat of many entries, as it was the norm though.

This year's favorite being croatia surely is a different style than the rest, and this electro-rock style is favored lately but certainly it wasn't very noteworthy. So yes I think this year is going to be one of these years where the favorite for betting doesn't come first.

I wouldn't say that Eurovision is highly unpredictable. As far as I remember in several recent years main favorite always won. In 3 recent years Italy, Ukraine or Sweden were highly favoured and won. Now situation is a bit different because Croatia isn't so highly favoured against other countries, we have several strong contenders.
It's also worth betting on which countries will reach final. But when it comes h2h betting, it's getting more difficult.

I would say, betting on this kind of contest is very risky especially if you are not very familiar with the talents of each contestant. Better watch the show and not bet on this type of event. Also, there may be local/fiat betting sites that may offer odds but for crypto betting sites, I don't think so.

I found the current odds from several betting sites, and they are giving the percent chance of who will be the winner. But my take on this - sometimes it depends on the taste of the judges and the audience. How this contest will pan out during the finals.

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

I think what many people don't realize with Eurovision is how unpredictable it can be. On the one hand croatia has an addictive song which seems to be a reliable motif based on which a song can do really well in the contest, but that's not nearly close to the top of what's most important.

I think many things will be judged last minute, for instance as there's heightened political tension around certain issues at the moment, many people will be looking for a sign to express their opinion through their vote. I bet that if any country's delegation flashes the Palestinian flag even for a moment, lots of people would be motivated to vote regardless of song. And that's a factor many people don't seem to be taking into account. So for me Croatia dominating the odds with no second best close to it only makes it more attractive to bet on countries with smaller win chances at the moment.

Odds for Croatia are very small indeed, so I wonder if bookmakers are not offering smaller odds than what it should be for this outcome actually. The song is good but it reminds "Cha cha cha" from Finland last year a little bit too much IMO. Anyway there are not so many banger songs this year, so he can benefit from that. To be honest I am only listening, from time to time though, 3 songs on Spotify personally : Poland, Denmark and Iceland.

The Eurovision contest is heating up as we get closer to the big event.  Croatia has been the frontrunner for a few weeks now. 

Ukraine is putting up a good fight for the top though.  They are currently sitting in second place, but the gap between them and Croatia seems to be growing bit by bit.  The bookies handicapping the contest think Croatia has it just about locked up at this point - they are offering really favorable odds, like 3-4 to 1 for them to win it all and  ukraine's odds of pulling off their fourth Eurovision victory are getting longer, now between 5-7 to 1. 

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out! Croatia's entry is catchy but Ukraine has some powerful vocals on their side.  Either one could end up the victor when the final votes are counted.


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

I see Greece went up a few spots in the odds and that's quite interesting.

I'm certain by the reactions I'm seeing that Greece will secure a spot in the final. But I'm wondering if the positivity by eurovision fans in social media is something to rely upon for judging song performance in the contest. For sure many of these people that react to these videos are kind of influencers now because they gather a very big audience simply for sharing their opinion. So in terms of showcasing a song to the public it plays an important role. I'm not sure if those placing bets have been taking this into account. Because for instance even though Croatia's song is first in the odds and it's also a good song imo, it hasn't been receiving the same attention on social media that young people like posting like TikTok.

Israel didn't have backup, they just changed the name and the lyrics. Now, according to the rules, it's not political anymore and they can use it. That is if the band doesn't pull any stunts on the middle of the act and won't get disqualifed after all. But i doubt band would do that. There's huge money involved if they would do well.

But i highly doubt they will do well. And i am seriously wondering why they have such high odds, even though they have done well in the past, many people are protesting it, and while you can't downvote them, i am guessing points will show in jury's decision as well with lack of voters from other countries.

If there would be one country that would be a direct protest vote against israel, i would bet on that. If it was possible, i would also bet on the possibility that they are getting booed live, i would actually bet lot's of my money on that. Eurovision brands itself as apolitical, but that doesn't mean people interacting with it will.

I see that this new song was released only a few hours ago on Eurovision's official YouTube account. It's interesting that Israel had an entire back up song and music video in production after their "October Rain" debacle. Also interesting how the European Broadcasting Union didn'g outright disqualify it and let them in with a different song.

As a song it's a more fitting song for Eurovision. But 17.00 is good enough based on how many Eurovision fans have come out against the contest based on the fact that Israel is participating. Certainly though on the opposite side of it there's gonna be people strategically maxing their votes in favor of Israel. I'd argue though that songs way down the list have better production. So it'll be interesting now to see if Israel moves further up or down the list after the change in songs.

You're right, there are still a few countries missing. Albania, Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan haven't revealed their entries yet.

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.


(https://youtu.be/lJYn09tuPw4)

It's a good entry from Greece, the music, the song in Greek and the music video are quite original. I wonder if I will not send a vote for her during the sem-final(2nd) because she competes in the semi-final whose my country can vote. I like Denmark too in this semi-final so maybe I will vote for both entries at the end. 4 countries are missing for now though (Albania, Armenia, Georgia and Israel) and another one in the first semi-final (Azerbaijan).

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I see many eurovision fans discussing Greece's entry favorably on social media this year. Here's the music video for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSTnLWGUPs

Marina Satti always has overproduced dances on her music videos, and this one especially is very campy in portraying modern Greek cultural icons in a very kitsch fashion. As a song though, it's not that interesting to me. Aesthetically pleasing for sure but nothing life changing. Also the vocals at the start are quite weird. Dunno though, at least we'll probably get to the final. After last year's tragic entry it's a fresh song to send to Eurovision which I'm glad about for my country. Also in our native language, which would be nice to see perform well.

So is anyone going to vote those non-favourites? I just reclaimed my JUN airdrop, so i am cashing that and wagering it for Finland.
Finland had 67x multiplier in bc.game (biggest one i've seen), so i wanted to try there. But since i didn't recall if i had registered yet, i tried to search all my emails from "bd.game", and nothing came up.

So i made an account there, and while i looked around before depositing, i spinned that flashy wheel with those free JB tokens as a bet. There came a popup screen saying that i wasn't eligible for the prize as someone has already registered an account from my ip or my computer. Now i am afraid to use that site anymore, because it will probably look like double accounting on purpose.

Stake had just 66x multiplier, so that's gonna do fine. But i would like to see odds for other crypto casinos for comparison and i didn't find eurovision from others you listed, even with google. Maybe you can give direct links?

You're both right, not every song from back in the day was a timeless work of art.  There was a ton of corny pop back then too! Even the Beatles were written off as junk once upon a time when they first came out, yet now we see them as undisputed legends.

Nowadays there's no shortage of raw talent in music, if you're willing to dig below the mainstream hits.  We just gotta put in the effort to explore different genres and find what suits our tastes - there truly is something for everyone.  Same idea applies to Eurovision.  Granted you'll always have some sugary throwaway tunes.  But if you keep an open mind...

Isreal were allowed to participate in Eurovision after they made changes in lyrics of song:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68505050
Despite it, their entry probably won't be less contraversial because of this.

Music from past looks better because it gives us nostalgy about our youth, childhod, bring back some good memories. Wouldn't say that nowadays music is bad, simply you shouldn't look at mainstream music. It applies to Eurovision too, this contest is mainly about genereic pop music. But every year we have at least we have at least few more sophisticated entries.
About Italy, seems that they simply can't send bad songs and it applies to their this year entry. And yeah, when Maneskin won few years ago, it let them to become one of the most popular bands in the world now.

Probably almost all bokmakers have it, after all, it's one of biggest events in Europe, only Olympics and football World Cup/Euro can compete with it.

Rollbit Casino has Eurovision Song Contest winner betting as well. Just sayin'. 

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites. Croatia seems to be the favorite among the bookies at the moment.

Croatia	3.75
Ukraine	4.4
Iceland	7.5
Italy	7.6
Belgium	12.8
Sweden	15.1
United Kingdom	17.6
France	17.6
Lithuania	19.1
Switzerland	20.1

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

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Yes I agree with you, it would definitely have been a better move to address this controversy with a palestinian singer than to boycott the event or to threat to do it. But if she won it's for some reasons. Many people of the Eurovision's audience are women of her generation or older actually, and many younger ones could have her shape. The lyrics of the song are universal and romantic but they are very feminine too. Her voice and the dancing music are nice. So I think she's very likely to get many votes if she participates.

It's almost a pity Bashar Murad who was tipped to represent Iceland this year lost to this.
From what I understand his lyrics had nothing to do with politics, but the sheer fact that he's Palestinian was surely something in response to Israel still participating in the contest.
It's been such a long time since we saw some good action in Eurovision.

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

Iceland has revealed the song they will likely choose for the contest yesterday, that is to say the winner of their national contest Söngvakeppnin 2024, we still don't know if they will participate because they don't want to compete with Israel AFAIK, but I really like this song, I think it's my favorite this year, up to now. I hope they will decide to participate because they could reach the Top5 or maybe the Top3 quite easily with this entry IMO


Hera Björk - Scared of Heights

Then, I suppose, whether or not that music piques someone's interest truly depends on their personal taste. I suppose it was just not my sort of music, and our perspectives are different. I believe that having a soul when producing music is crucial since it can significantly increase the emotional effect we can achieve and produce the desired piece. In other words, if you are soulless, your compositions would lack feeling and genuineness. The modern world is so advanced in terms of technology that even artificial intelligence can compose a song, and people go crazy for it. AI has the potential to make humans stupid. While it can benefit certain people greatly and improve our thinking, in the end we are just fooling ourselves and becoming less productive as a result of our dependence on high-tech devices.
 
There is no need for an argument, as I also believe that music unites people and helps us understand one another. Music also serves as a means of bringing people together and connecting us all to do things that can benefit our society.

Yeah, i am disagreeing with you. Part about emotions that you described is highly subjective and beauty (or emotion) is always in the eye of beholder.Calling music or musicians lifeless or shells is telling more about the fact that listener doesn't connect with it. It however doesn't mean others wouldn't. I recently read an article (i can't remember where) where people listened to music, written by AI, and people who were told it was written by AI, described it soulless and empty, while people who weren't told about it, didn't seem to be feeling that way, and it raising various emotions in them. This doesn't mean you have to see soul in everything or like it, i just think it's a matter of perspective.

About that poilitical part: Eurovision tries to stay apolitical, as it could easily turn a platform from uniting nations to tool for dividing people. Everything is political in some way, but it doesn't mean this is the correct platform for dividing messages, which this rule is supposed to fight against. It's about unity and music.

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

I haven't considered betting on it before, but it sounds like it could be a fun way to engage with the competition. Regarding the hot topic and controversy, it is strange how some political messages are tolerated while others aren't. Hopefully, the focus stays on the music itself.

Anyway, it's a shame to see countries like the U.K. not performing as well, considering their rich music history. But it's interesting to see Croatia is the favorite based on Eurovisionworld: eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision.

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

I think this year indeed joke songs will have higher chances to win because now yet another divisive issue has been added to the polarizing arena of international politics. Last year people were still voting based on the Ukraine/Russia war, now many countries are showing support to Palestine with their entry while others have so far showed support for Israel.

Even jury votes are kinda biased so this year the voters that go for a joke entry might be the most compact group.

Finland, and not only because i am from Finland, but i am putting a ton of money into this. Here's my reasoning:

Windows95man is obviously a joke. But that's one of the reasons for my pick. Finland won Eurovision in 2006 with Lordi, that was sort of joke too.
They won because in 2006 winning was based on popular vote. Juries existed too, but because Eurovision was ashamed that Lordi won, after 2006 they gave more power to those juries to keep any weirdos out, so they won't vote for controversial or joke bands. Now, keeping that in mind:

1. Windows95man won Finland's finals because of popular vote, even when Jury gave least points to it.
2. When Loreen (sweden) won last year with her song "Tattoo" Against Käärijä's (Finland) "Cha cha cha", it was seen highly controversial, because loreen didn''t win with popular vote, it vote because of the jury vote. And when Loreen was picking up her price, whole arena chanted CHA CHA CHA!.

https://eurovisionfun.com/en/2023/05/loreen-it-didnt-bother-me-that-the-audience-was-singing-cha-cha-cha/

3. Now year after, voters see that the system is fixed against them, so i am guessing if will show somehow, like most people who voted käärijä last time could be giving sympathy votes for Finland, especially because Eurovision is happening in Sweden, this controversy will be remembered. And it would be so sweet to humiliate Sweden in their own turf, by something like this guy.



And if entries from other countries are going to be crappy enough, because of the reasons i already listed, i can see lot's of people giving a protest vote for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaIxsEPoS28

Serbia's fired up for Eurovision 2024 with their national contest, "Pesma za Evroviziju", buzzing with great music!

You can watch live stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0VpZWSprOM


Also tonight:

🇮🇸 Iceland: Söngvakeppnin final, 20:45 ⭐️ (RÚV Player)
🇵🇹 Portugal: Festival da Canção semi-final 2, 22:00 (RTP Player)
🇷🇸 Serbia: Pesma za Evroviziju final, 21:00 ⭐️ (ERTS YouTube channel)
🇸🇪 Sweden: Melodifestivalen semi-final 5, 20:00 (SVT Player)

source: https://eurovision.tv/calendar

It's strange that being biggest financial contributors they're ok with ending in last places every year, sometimes even without gettting any points. On the other hand, it would be even more strange and maybe even unfair if they would start sending their A tier stars like Dua Lipa or Ed Sheeran.

Actually, nowadays almost allsongs that I hear resembles something. It's getting hard to find something 100% unique. And probably to create too. They probably can sample parts of other songs not intentionally without even knowing about it.

Yes, I agree. Croatia has a much better song than last year's entry, (which was a bit too controversial, imho.)  If I'm not mistaken, it resembles Rammstein's music a bit.
I'm not saying it's a ripoff, but maybe the artist was inspired by the iconic German rock band.

I think the countries that have a guaranteed spot in the final rarely bother to send an entry that's too good partly because it would be too cocky, but also because they don't need to bother. These entries don't reach the final on merit so if they want to send a joke entry and get it seen by everyone without having to bother with semi-finals, they sure can. But I think the United Kingdom and Germany specifically, being some of the largest countries in Europe, as well as having a guaranteed spot in the final, usually don't want to be too competitive.

It's so weird and really a shame to see the U.K., a country with such a robust music scene, to end up taking places close to the last year after year. Like yeah, ok, some countries really don't like the UK., but they've also been sending irrelevant songs. Not particularly bad, just really forgettable.

Always interesting to have discussion about Eurovision here. Personally I'm happy with our (Lithuania choice. We sent Silvester Belt with song Luktelk https://youtu.be/OrL668EQRu0?si=WP-Zk6VDHlNyd5Ko
That was only song that I liked in our national selection. Yeah, it's not winning material, but I'm sure we will get into final and maybe will get decent place. I also like that we started to send song in Lithuanian language. IMO, our English songs sounds too much generic.

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Croatia, it will be great or just terrible. Last year they also sent a bit strange song, but didn't got good result.

There is is lot of politics in Eurovision, but I wouldn't say that's main factor how winner is decided always. Let's take Sweden and Loreen last year - it would be difficult to find political context there.

Yeah, it's not bad, but nothing special. It sounds like song that you will forget after few minutes. Don't know why Germany aren't taking Eurovision more seriously.

It's kinda funny how politicized Eurovision has been in the last few years.

There's a rule against politicized songs and lyrics but this rule only seems to be leveraged in favor of EU's establishment. In the last few years only Russia and pro-Russian entries have been harmed by Eurovision Rules.

2017 Ukraine refused entry to the Russian singer, ultimately not being able to compete at all.
2021 The European Broadcasting Union bans Belarus for supposedly political lyrics.
2022 Preemptive ban of Russia from the competition due to the war in Ukraine.

Why then shouldn't Israel be banned this year for carrying out a genocide that's even recognized by the International Court of Justice? It would only be fair to receive the same treatment.
Instead they threaten a ban on the song only after it's revealed to be in support of the war... And probably it won't even be banned.

It's fair game then in my opinion for other countries to send pro-palestinian and anti-genocide entries to the competition. Also fair game for people voting for the competition to do so in support of political opinions. It's going to be a fierce song competition in political terms (ironically). However also there's a large call to boycott the competition so ultimately it'd be interesting to see how much leverage these pro/anti entries would get.

Well, Germany has struck out at Eurovision again.  I hate to say it, but this year's entry just doesn't seem like a good fit for the contest.  We picked a decent song and Isaac is a talented singer, but the whole package lacks that special Eurovision sparkle needed to stand out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhq3S4YHdQ

It's a perfectly fine radio tune but come on... You need major stage presence and killer choreography to grab people's attention and  this song just kind of plods along without much excitement.  And the staging looks pretty boring too from what I've seen so far. 

I wish they'd chosen something more dynamic and crowd-pleasing.  As it is, theyll be relying on some jury points to avoid finishing dead last.  And with such an unmemorable song, Isaac's going to struggle big time to pick up votes in the public televote.

 

Currently, music no longer has beautiful lyrics with any meaning, whether in a critical or romantic sense. Music has become just mixtures of sounds that are pleasant to the ears, but do not touch the feelings of the person listening to them. Looking at the lyrics of this song, I didn't see anything that expresses feelings that can move someone. but it has a pleasant sound mix, I don't know what criteria they use to choose the songs for this op event and I also don't know what criteria they use to choose the winner of this event that op posted. but I highly doubt that the winner will be someone who sings something meaningful and has a good sound mix. Unfortunately, in music and beauty contests, the winners are chosen in a way that benefits certain politicians' goals.

for example, if in this event that the op posted, the majority of countries are critical of how Israel is managing the war and a singer appears with poor quality music, terrible lyrics but which criticizes Israel, then that singer will be declared the winner, if any songs appear singing about global warming, then you will be declared the winner. We no longer look at the quality of music, the message that music wants to convey to society and how this music can help improve society, people today no longer care about the lyrics of the song, politicians and competition judges they just choose the music that best suits their goals

The Eurovision winner is determined by political alliances between countries and geographical proximity. Of course, a music contest sounds nice, and artistic activities lift our spirits, but this contest does not interest me because of its voting system. I wish the voting system of this contest was done by people living all over the world. Because in this case, the result is determined not by the quality of the music but by the political conjuncture. I'm sorry but I won't bet on this contest.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner?

Croatia decided who's going to Eurovision this year! Last night, our national broadcaster, HRT, put on a show called "Dora 2024".  After all the votes were counted, "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" by Baby Lasagna came out on top.  Get ready to see Croatia rock Malmö with this catchy tune! 🤘


Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmg8EAD-Kjw (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-UQmO08sc (Live)

Will you be betting on Eurovision this year?

The Eurovision Song Contest (ESC) is quite popular in Europe. It's kind of an official institution at this point, with most countries of the continent sending a team to represent their country with a song in the competition. This year fewer countries will participate than in other years but still there's going to be a lot of competition.

Eurovision also has a big and very dedicated fan base and those fans often look at betting odds to see who's more likely to win the contest. This year I'm also eager to see which crypto bookies will accept bets on the ESC. The ranking in the final is determined in part by jury but also through audience votes. So people's opinion is really important in this competition.  

Here's some info on countries that will be participating in this year's contest:

First semi-final on the 7th of May:


Second semi-final on the 8th of May:


Countries that have already secured a spot in the final on the 11th of May:


There's also a unique circumstance this year where many participating countries have called on the expulsion of Israel from the competition due to the ongoing genocide the Israeli government is causing on Gaza. The organizers however weren't listening. But upon the revelation of Israel's entry, they're only now threatened with expulsion due to politicized lyrics (supposedly in support of the war), which are supposedly forbidden in the competition. So another betting option to look out for even before May when Eurovision will be taking place is if Israel will be allowed to compete or not.

So what do you think about betting on Eurovision? Will you be seeking out platforms to bet on it? Do you know which platforms will be accepting bets on the ESC in crypto?
Any thoughts on who's gonna pass from the semi finals to the final? Who's gonna be the winner perhaps? Let's get this thread going!