Topic: Evaluators Wanted (Read 730 times)

Hello, @Zippy. Just wanted to say thank you for the opportunity. I had received the rewards for evaluation. I got to learn a bit above how hashing, making and using signatures work. I saw that TweetNaCl is available on github. I wanted to know if contributions are welcomed. I have a bit of experience working with frontend technologies. Once again, thank you. If there's a need for further evaluation in the future, I'm up for it.

I know it's not necessarily valuable.
However, congratulations to your rank up. @Zippy
I mean the 'Jr.Member' status is always looks better for me than the 'Newbie' status, i think...

Okay, then I know about it.
You not have to do this!
I was happy to do it...
Of course I'm happy about the extra payment... Thank you very much for this, again.

I provided a bonus because you went the extra mile with color coding and additional instructions. The extra effort is appreciated.

Thanks for confirming this. I was a bit confused at the start, but after the detailed explanation, I believe now I understand the concept behind it.
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with in the future, thanks!

I've see you sent me another $10/BTCTC.
So, I've already received a total of $25/BTCTC from you instead $15/BTCTC!
Is that correct?
Otherwise I will gladly return the eventually false routed amount.

Interesting, slowly a puzzle of your words begins to fit together.
Of course it's a complex subject.
I admire your technical skill and thinking.
An effective application would be great, also to make it easier for me to understand and participate in everything without mistakes.

Good, I was able to verify this, thanks for your time! Yes, you can be a future evaluator, because we will be customizing TweetNaCl to be more Zenoribbon friendly if feathertone (who would be the dev for that) is up for that. He already coded something similar for RSA signatures, so maybe Wireguard standards will also be something realistic. The automated version is ideally no more difficult than what Bitcoin client is already doing though, involving simply running the app and it validates everything in the background.

Thanks very much, I suppose I will create a Zenoribbon coding thread to copy all our developments to. I appreciate that offer and will keep you in my IM contact list!

As I just mentioned in the above comment, a coder (Triturian) is coding a communications-by-socket API that should be able to work as both a (paid or unpaid) remote service and as a local service. That API will allow the transaction ledger services to be automated and anonymous. So, the application API is being coded before the application itself.

One focus right now beyond a manual review security system (as currently uses the TweetNaCl page) is to release a general purpose "universal" API so that any and all "Service Cogs" can connect to each other which would include cogs for transaction of the claimchain ledger. A service cog is basically a web service (like chaimclain ledger evaluation service) that can just as easily be run solely for a local machine as it can be offered as a paid remote service. So, that API will likely use sockets so that there is little difference when a service is run locally compared to remotely.

A service cog will start out as a compliant python script that can function as an anonymous Tor service (in this case for Zenoribbon transaction processing). We really want such services to also be set up if possible, very importantly, over proxy service using one or more hops to enable regular browser interactions without .onion which is not yet widely supported by browsers. The point is to make it easy to set up and resell a device computing power for uncensored web hosting purposes, over Tor or proxy service. The general attitude is that if their is a will, there is a way. And if there is long hard work and dedication to such ends, this will all be accomplished.

The API uses a RAMDISK for memory with the encouragement for all Zenoribbon (or Zeronet) related service cogs to exclusively store all variables on the RAMDISK in human-readable text format. Transparency and total comprehension are really a key feature for Zenoribbon at all angles. The RAMDISK has been coded for release for Linux but has not been released yet. Technically its not a RAMDISK and is actually a tmpfs system, but Windows does not support that and so will need to be a RAMDISK on Windows. That code is due to be released in July.

I am also very interested to learn more about Zenoribbon and to support you in your research as best as I can!

Task 2 of 4 Submission:

Evaluation:

Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: CbahL8t1TE/wp3pmNhSDQ7ubH1tQ2kjs7Fx0p3FD1Yp1T9anJVJNXnjXRDd4J52JSMBTCXlAgvAmCGh5F5yjCw==
Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=

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Finally got it right. (Thanks to your new update). sad to hear it's the end of the evaluation. Can we become evaluators in the future when it goes live? Got to learn a thing a two. Thank you.

I meant what are your next steps for your project? The idea behind it interests me and I’m just curious as to where you go from here.
My overall thoughts is the idea is very promising, but as someone mentioned before, any time you have something manually done you open yourself up to potential scammers. It does seem that you have thought that part out so it isn’t as big of a worry as it might be.

Everything is done for now but when we get the next task set your at the front of the line. What are your general thoughts on Zenoribbon? There is a booklet describing Zenoribbon at zenoribbon.freeforums.net. The next task set might not be for a few months because a security app will have to be written designed for more easy manual verifications than what we were able to do with the tasks on this thread.

Zenoribbon is part of Zeronet, which as an oversimplified explanation is a layer over Tor that makes it easy to provide anonymous web hosting service which would include transaction ledger service for Zenoribbon. And both Zenoribbon and Zeronet are part of Rainbow Road, which is a plan for decentralization of all power structures.

Well there is nothing broken with your message. Its just that any long hash copied and pasted from this forum seems to have space added when pasting the text. Tasks 3 and 4 are canceled as described above in my response to sinereinzz so you're now done with all tasks, thank you for your time! Optionally you can let me know if you understand the concept behind retrocast messaging transactions. I will relay payment within 24 hours.

If I may ask, what is your next step?

Task 2 Complete, thanks for your time! So, everything is done for now on your end and will be paid. Tasks 3 and 4 and canceled but everyone will be paid as if they were done. While Zenoribbon now technically exists by the homestead claim, which was published as a retrocast message, and there was technically a transaction (the containerization), we don't plan more transactions until we design an EASY way to transact it manually. Manual transactions are supposed to be easy, but are not. So, we will design a better signature verification system. It will be nearly identical to the TweetNaCl page, but with warnings and instructions. Its up to feathertone, who puts together the security kit. feathertone already has a great RSA signature app but it the key lengths are unacceptable and so we'll get a Wireguard type kit, which is basically the TweetNaCl kit but slightly easier to use. RSA is still common but think about what this thread would look like using RSA!

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Should I verify this again with the new data?

It'll only take ~3 hours, I'm just at my work now!

Thank you, do I need to fix it? Or it's fine for now?
Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Thanks, this did verify, though it added a space to the hash as usual making it difficult to verify. I'd recommend saving your public key as that key  being an early evaluator is street cred for when the evaluation service is released.

Task 2 Correction:
The text as copied and pasted from the first link provided is actually:
CONTAINERIZATION
CONTAINER
ZR 0 to 1
CONTENT IDENTIFIER: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
CONTAINER IDENTIFIER: d9533c95c6a0d03e634b124f90c08c58800d3fb368b7f392ac698c66f140a6f7adf84ab27fa4f36 064f9817f17a1e578ee0d25e5c3fdb2c593a1e3f035c02b60
Hash of Containerization Text Above: SHA-512 Base64: a2041a22eec1a991d91fb71c40f6e88549ca64008f6df59834ad7b32e486221fb3f6db7f53738d6 9bd5d340a12b93cb96debcb819b6034d735acfd2d40d06a7c
Hash Signature and Transaction Identifier: Ed25519 TweetNaCl:
0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==

I copied and pasted from the wrong source! So, in any case, the signature would match in your evaluations. This is part of the reason why I'm doing this... to see just how hard it is to do the claims and evaluate manually. Not that easy to do correctly at least when your new at evaluating apparently. But we'll design tools to make it easier for a manual verification before we design the automated tool.

Nothing works with the public key you have transmitted! But this signature you have posted belongs to MY public key from my contribution in the last night!

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I did exactly what you described, I think!

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Evaluation:
Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: o8aYBduwhDPPss3IdVLeGqPreJQq7Vyoxwx+8zgMxi9WtgBMEkjp8oZmTAWYcBhjWc7tLYNu9djZlQSfHvEbBw==
Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=

Anyways, please let me know I'm doing it correctly -


Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: KDSO1U8PsyxNvAV94iWqOPpbvVsGpxTFF6kiRC3u4Y7Zbb8507DMKDX3UOKH/jUjM4OI2iVDbYVefmOWQ3oWBw==
Public Key: 372Nwk1C2Dl10LV9cMS91D4deoksw0xKLDCXjU6heNs=


P.S. I forgot to save my private key so I generated a new one.

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Hi, could you please check if you put a wrong signature, or I misunderstood something here?
I tried to put the signature you're providing (JO+1T3LpvwQRAJ3F0wgx2+5774fO0MewdreycjDLFGAPbJlLI5+9uW4LRFwUKTtQ0YEnP2v/iBC/tqtxK6iVAg==
), but it failed the verification.
So I went to the original post to check again, and I cannot the signature in the post.
I put the signature in the post(0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==) instead, and it works.
Please see below -



Please let me know if I'm doing anything wrong, thanks!

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Task 2 of 4 Detailed Instructions:

1. Examine the page at
https://boards.4channel.org/vip/thread/99136#p99161 which has been cc'd to the zenoribbon.freeforums.net claimchain ledger.
It will have this text:
CONTAINERIZATION
CONTAINER
ZR 0 to 1
CONTENT IDENTIFIER: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
CONTAINER IDENTIFIER: d9533c95c6a0d03e634b124f90c08c58800d3fb368b7f392ac698c66f140a6f7adf84ab27fa4f36 064f9817f17a1e578ee0d25e5c3fdb2c593a1e3f035c02b60
Hash of Containerization SHA-512: a2041a22eec1a991d91fb71c40f6e88549ca64008f6df59834ad7b32e486221fb3f6db7f53738d6 9bd5d340a12b93cb96debcb819b6034d735acfd2d40d06a7c
Hash Signature: JO+1T3LpvwQRAJ3F0wgx2+5774fO0MewdreycjDLFGAPbJlLI5+9uW4LRFwUKTtQ0YEnP2v/iBC/tqtxK6iVAg==

This is a claim that Zenoribbon is being placed in a container which can be transacted over the Public Settlement Network (PSN), which can only be honored if done by the rightful owner. So, Check to see if there are any other earlier tranfers of Zenoribbon using a basic internet search. If not, the transaction is potentially valid.

2. Verify that the "Hash of Containerization" matches the text beginning "CONTAINERIZATION" and ending "...b60"
Unlike the previous hashes in task 1, this hash is in Base64 encoding and so the TweetNaCl hash won't match. However, the more common version will work.
A good SHA-512 Base64 hash tool can be found here:
https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha512.html
In the input box, the hash from above beginning "CONTAINERIZATION" and ending "...b60"
Remove any spaces in the hash because copying and pasting from a browser sometimes adds spaces that ruin the hash.
The output should match the hash as claimed beginning "a204..." for the containerization to be valid. If valid, then you can go to the next step.

3. Verify that the hash signature matches the owner of "Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road" which is indicated by this public key according to your previous evaluation:
Claimant Sharing Key: hqXdZnrTvicitWv4V/LH/9qA3nUMcl5PIbbdgclZ9cY=
A good signature kit can be found at: https://tweetnacl.js.org/#/sign
Click on the verify tab.
Enter the sharing Key as the signature public key.
Enter the Hash signature from above "JO+... Ag==" in the signature line.
Once again, delete any spaces added by your browser.
Enter the "Hash of Containerization" hash as the message. In this case that is the above hash beginning "a204" ending "...a7c"
Click Verify. Hopefully the statement verifies correctly!

4. If everything is valid and there are no conflicting claims found by an internet search, then you can honor the statement using the same signature signing process used in step 1:
Create the evaluation statement as:

Evaluation:
Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: (hash of honor statement above goes here)
Signature: (signature of the hash in the previous line above)
Public Key: (insert your public key here)

a. Hash the text starting with "Evaluation" and ending "...CQ==" using a hash tool such as the linked page above.
b. Sign the hash such as by using https://tweetnacl.js.org/#/sign
You should still have your public and private key from the previous task. If you don't have that key, generate a new one with the "random" button and save both the private and public keys it for future use.
Paste your private key to the private key field.
In the message field, put the line generated from hashing your evaluation statement, which may be this:
8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Then click sign.
Paste the resulting signature in place of "(signature of the hash in the previous line above)" in your evaluation statement.
c. Paste your public key in place of "(insert your public key here)" in your evaluation statement.

5. Post your evaluation statement to this thread. Done! As always, don't be afraid to loosely interpret these instructions and do things according to your personal preferences.

Hi, you are in as the last evaluator needed for the time being. I'll PM you if there are any tasks for you. $5 USD as BTC is relayed to your Bitcoin address.

We have enough evaluators for the time being. Thanks!

Oh man, it was in the middle of the night in Germany, I'm sorry.
I hope it did you some help anyway.

What was my mistake again?

Let me know what else I can do for you, please, i look forward to further cooperation!

 There is need of more peoples ?

The Web of Trust is expected to be established on Zeronet (ZNET), which is basically a layer over Tor where everyone is encouraged to run anonymous services which could include a Zenoribbon claimchain ledger. Unlike .onion service, a Zeronet Service Cog is intended to be extremely easy to set up for any participant. Each participant is expected to build their own web of trust by ranking who they trust most to least. The overlap of agreement between that person and each other person they interact with on the network is where consensus begins to build. From that point, users are expected to assign a level of honor to the various groups within their network of most trusted people. The group with the highest honor is then delegated as the consensus leader for that participant. The protocols of that group will be accepted as the protocols used. So for Zenoribbon, the minimum time delay between transactions would be an example of the requirements by that group to get a transaction validated.

The Web of Trust is merely a formality. Crypto enthusiasts know that Bitcoin Core is the group setting the Bitcoin protocol. However, who knows their public key? Everyone should have a copy of their public key. We don't have that because we generally don't have a formalized and automated Web of Trust application. Such an application would enable much better security for everyone.

Good, that verified nicely, though you swapped signature lines such that the last signature actually corresponds with the second to last hash. The reason why that doesn't need to be corrected is that a digital signature itself is considered bound to whatever statement is verified by it. It is the duty of the signor on the Public Settlement Network (PSN) to check all hash codes to make sure they match the text lest they accidentally sign away their soul. So the moral of the story is to sign a hash carefully on the Public Settlement Network!

OP, You have a thing going on here. From what i understand, this is an idea of using a web of trust to verify transactions. Consensus to be arrived at by building and utilizing a web of trust. Its like an online version of a bunch of clerks maintaining the ledger in banks in old times.

I doubt its usage for settling transactions but the idea itself is worth exploring as it has potentially several applications in the times of Social media. I would follow this. I have a small but important request for you to kindly consider.

If its a "web of trust" we are looking at, please keep a condition that people who have used alt-accounts for spamming and have negative trust feedback should not be accepted. The condition for "minimum 8 posts" is pretty weak, especially considering that you have an ages old account at the forum. If this isn't a bought account, you must be aware of the mass manipulation and scamming this forum has gone through. If you are looking to start a web of trust, wouldn't it be prudent to have some sort of best practices??

Good Luck!

If you need me just send me a pm and for some reason you aren't able to send me one, just quote me here I'll receive a notification via Telegram.

I greet you most sincerely.

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Task 2 of 4:

Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=

CONTAINERIZATION
CONTAINER
ZR 0 to 1
CONTENT IDENTIFIER: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
CONTAINER IDENTIFIER: d9533c95c6a0d03e634b124f90c08c58800d3fb368b7f392ac698c66f140a6f7adf84ab27fa4f36 064f9817f17a1e578ee0d25e5c3fdb2c593a1e3f035c02b60
Hash of Containerization SHA-512: a2041a22eec1a991d91fb71c40f6e88549ca64008f6df59834ad7b32e486221fb3f6db7f53738d6 9bd5d340a12b93cb96debcb819b6034d735acfd2d40d06a7c
Hash Signature: JO+1T3LpvwQRAJ3F0wgx2+5774fO0MewdreycjDLFGAPbJlLI5+9uW4LRFwUKTtQ0YEnP2v/iBC/tqtxK6iVAg==

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Evaluation Statement:

Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=

Evaluation:
Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement: jlSdGzZ2AJeTFMg6eIvxIVIjv2rIsdgf4Zhi4UEVGSjF4KIOGgHfzcV+dyNnKCVkjNIqjJrd23KD2A/5Ues+Rg==
Signature: ReECezZZVGIxvIZeCMNFWY42czX/RLeOANNrGNKENcPKEWsTtuljYmbVryh38AaW5/QWzFK72LU9YHuXyDMfAw==

And with SHA512 Hash of Evaluation Statement:

Hash of Evaluation Statement: 8e549d1b367600979314c83a788bf1215223bf6ac8b1d81fe19862e141151928c5e0a20e1a01dfc dc57e7723672825648cd22a8c9adddb7283d80ff951eb3e46
Signature: o8aYBduwhDPPss3IdVLeGqPreJQq7Vyoxwx+8zgMxi9WtgBMEkjp8oZmTAWYcBhjWc7tLYNu9djZlQSfHvEbBw==

Task 2 Note:
A good SHA-512 Base64 hash tool that is savable as offline as an extra security step is here:
https://emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha512.html

The first step would be to copy & paste the text beginning "CONTAINERIZATION" and ending "...35c02b60". The TweetNaCl uses a rare encoding base for their hashes, so this is using Base64 as an easier way to achieve consensus.

Edit: I don't have time to add details at the moment so feel free to take two days for this task as I'll post details in about 14 hours and will will send PMs to the evaluators with a link to the details.

The evaluation statement will be something like:
Evaluation:
Honor to: 0nP5UpmI3+m9Uk1qf8fMQK3drWwS7p4+sLSZu7iepnFv1rHUJElJqDjQtYJLfWM/jW1e/LwdLn69g1bdLvuyCQ==
Hash of Evaluation Statement:
(Hash of above starting with "evaluation:" and ending with "CQ==")
Signed:
(digital signature of the hash using your evaluator keys)

Task 2 of 4

Zenoribbon has now been "containerized" so it can be traded on the Public Settlement Network (PSN):
https://boards.4channel.org/vip/thread/99136#p99161
and CC'd to zenoribbon.freeforums.net Claimchain ledger.

The verification task is to ensure that the container identifier matches to the first person to claim it, that the hash accurately matches with the containerization text, and that the same public key that signed the homestead claim is the same public key to sign the containerization transaction. A simple internet search and check of the zenoribbon.freeforums.net transaction ledger will help in deciding if that is the next valid transaction after the homestead claim.

So, a statement of your choosing is then signed to verify that all the above is accurate and honored, or of not honored if the transaction is done with problems. I'll provide detailed instructions in a next post, but it will take a bit of time so this is hopefully enough to get started.

Glad to hear. I noticed it. I don't know why - I pasted it multiple times and it still had the same issue so I opted for pastebin. waiting for the next task!

Yes, that worked with the same data. Thanks for the time you took to correct this. When I copied & pasted the hash as you listed from the forum message, a space was added in when I pasted the hash data like this:
"KlRVcq ia1vSUQ=="

I didn't notice the space and wouldn't expect such an odd bug in the forum or browser I'm using. But I do now feel good about the TweetNaCl encryption page. They use a rare encoding method for their hashes, which I might not be widely accepted. But of course their public keys are also encoded by the same method. Its something we'll have to consider, but its a good app and good code.

Payment will be sent to you within a day of this message. Task two will be posted shortly.

You have probably already signed messages with your BTCTC address. This is almost the same here!

You just have to imagine:
Public key = your BTCTC address
Secret key = Private key of your BTCTC address

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Instruction:

Go to the site: https://tweetnacl.js.org/#/sign

1. > Click on 'Random' and write down the Secret key and the public key (remember the Secret key is like your private key at BTCTC, and your future key for further tasks, so that you do not have to create a new one each time)

2. > Write in the 'Message' field (without spaces in front or back): OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==

3. > Click 'Sign' (after this point, you don't need the Secret key anymore for this task), then a Signature should appear (just like BTCTC)

4. > Write this Signature in the Evaluation Statement below at Signature (of hash) (marked purple) and then just insert your Public key (from step 1) (marked green):

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Public key:

Evaluation Statement:
Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash):

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I hope it works this time.

Link to paste bin: https://pastebin.com/MaUicFhs

PS: I used pastebin due to some inconsistency with the hash of the message.

Screenshot:

Task 2 of 4 Notice:

Since there were some minor issues with day 1, I'm waiting until tomorrow to post task two of four. Sorry for the delay. As a side note, tasks are generally expected to be completed within 30 hours of being posted, but of course sooner is always appreciated.

Zippy

https://ibb.co/4JZHSvpUnfortunately verification failed. Maybe you accidentally added spaces? Please retry again with your info to make sure its not a TweetNaCl issue.

Nice to read that it all worked out.

Yes, if there are any bugs on the own website, it can cause you sleepless nights!
But I doubt it was because of TweetNaCl.js.
I don't know what I did wrong the first time, but I admit it took me a few minutes to understand what to do. With your second instruction, I knew immediately what i have to do.
Maybe your writing style was a little confusing, or I just had a bad day.

I'm would be very happy, to be allowed at your disposal for further tasks.

Sounds good

Good, that verified. I'll relay the $5 USD as BTC within one day and your in as at least a backup evaluator. I'll PM you with any tasks to follow.

Good, your signature properly verified on my end! I was worried that the TweetNaCL demo was bugged as it has already been patched once a few months ago due to a possible bug, though my worries have not completely gone away. I suppose I should have included a tutorial on how to use that signature page. I'll send the remaining $10 USD as BTC due within one day because you've already done enough work to earn it.

A participant named feathertone is going to code our own version of that signature kit and already did one for PGP as a savable offline webpage. feathertone's security kit is easier to use but is still considered a work in progress.

Public Key: CqC/13SxJt9qd/sBl+0TxOqNsPQT9M27VArBuKoPK/Q=
Secret key: zZmo6GX6vWLgft2zUF/pF/aXyI0Xbz819pG0iHDzy80KoL/XdLEm32p3+wGX7RPE6o2w9BP0zbtUCsG4qg8r9A==
Signature: Xdpm7CO23SYCgG4b27ZmPYr/xPCM/iLzKerH7uOuLxR1Dd3QSbOFvx1gJZoge87CkvO4uhpuZTVsEI+2zHjVCg==

Please label everything so I know what is what. Three parts for a signature validation would be the public key, the message (which is generally a hash for any signature which in this case is your bitcoin address), and the signature itself.

Hmm... Interesting that I was not alone on the wrong track...

I hope I have now completed the task (I have added some screenshots for you to review):

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Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=

Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash): veIMN7zTpkx3TJDh56NIiYeH+tDLscaTdmIVJ95khAHHW6z/aHkdbfGY1Z7C9cHO2tcbuED7s5nVLn87ge1FDQ==

Okay, I'll be home in about two hours. It's a little awkward on my cell phone to do this...

As soon as I'm home, I'll make the right verification for you.

Sorry

Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=

Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash): 27f2On2g7buUR02aL5+RA/CY7KqEWSwn4WJozuFgVDxS8pyF/7MdLhBxrGiidkxS62U8GgmGQ16uaWPfr9lPDw==

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I've now updated my submission. I tried it myself and it shows that it is verified. Let me know if it works as expected.

Public Key: NN0j4gRhy2bHxeYMH+CHcp18+8APtQ8mgiPCRqs0ztU=

Evaluation Statement:
Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash): 7wYSRtaN6Z4BORL1QP0X3RBVUWPaxc6pE/lQszZT+vyBsBFgxqqwMMni2jmKlYtlOWfwo7SYrotqSglm7a8uBA==

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Please let me know if I'm doing it correctly, thanks!

Ok I just tried it again

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Let me know if that one works

In case I have not told you already, you're in as backup #1. There was another backup number one, but they were needed already. The BTC signup pay has been sent.

The hash was correct but this is the third failed signature and I'm not sure if thats because of my instructions or something else.

Here is an example from a randomly generated key I just created:
Public Sharing Key:
ZDPMSSeQDl5m4hlM0Ur6ldPFgMm2mXdHqE6JGcn+pgE=
Secret Key:
zYkZ35bhQI/CjDLJhoRTaIfpmSMTquQQJo6Coi8ttGRkM8xJJ5AOXmbiGUzRSvqV08WAybaZd0eoTokZyf6mAQ==
Message: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature:
C6ejBf6opO2fT/UlnTHLu6bHj+gldqkxq3d+cnoJqf7sefM9xg8fPIcno5neUH2cpEGg8Zo5siKwTWCdfxByDQ==

Hopefully if you put in that public sharing key, then the provided signature above, then the hashed message, and click verify it will say "verified"? This would count as another paid task specifically for you. I need to be sure the TweetNaCl kit is working correctly because this is 3 for 3 signature verification fails.

The hash came out correctly for me, but the signature failed verification. So, for the message you'd want to put in the hash line (the line with OgK....Q==), then you'd want to put in your private key and click sign. Hopefully you can get a new signature on the hash?

Unfortunately that validation failed. You signed your bitcoin address beginning 1E4 with the public key beginning U1b and the resulting signature is the text beginning 8qH? I'm hoping there are no bugs in the TweetNaCl demo kit.

Thanks, this also looks right and will be double-checked in about 14 hours. I try to keep a strict schedule while having fun.

Thanks, this looks exactly right, but I don't have time to double-check for about 14 hours. The reason why you're doing this step is in order to validate the claim chain transactions you have to understand which claim chain to evaluate. This is just like if you were assigned Bitcoin blockchain to evaluate manually, you'd have to form an opinion on which is the most honorable block to start the blockchain with. I probably should have explained that sooner and will have that added to the documentation. This could be considered either a genesis claim or part of the genesis claim.

Steps remaining include containerization of the Zenoribbon so it can be transacted as normal, and then dividing it into pieces that can be traded as normal.

Public Key: SNEw1GN/FuTzcN3LJJLXt8erw7zkhnl4MQJ5GESNz98=

Evaluation Statement:
Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash): 27f2On2g7buUR02aL5+RA/CY7KqEWSwn4WJozuFgVDxS8pyF/7MdLhBxrGiidkxS62U8GgmGQ16uaWPfr9lPDw==

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Let me know if I did any of the processes wrongly. I did search for any earlier homestead claim but the result was the one at 4chan.

I hope I've understood what I was supposed to do:

Public Key: f74kSSFLWcz8qahPw2c6wEaaGBhacFgaP8zaADyk8BU=

Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement: OgKBFR13cfSEMKG4dhU2p0q4MIOW1Oi6NAKbV3LtnrB5HR2MCoUSjsDy9xDMzw6YyR71cTfRzKlRVcq ia1vSUQ==
Signature (of hash): mbrx8jOUmIMI/3FOluGriX+qYaH1Y8IHMOVDwB32s1GunJSYvUyiFOyZ9DX2sLD8ZTMc+X0EqdFqGXd0zEWrCA==

I PM'd you about the one evaluator being unable to continue. So, please complete evaluation task one of four within the next day. If anything seems less than easy, just post a reply and I'll get back to you within 12 hours if you post today or tomorrow.

Your BTC address has FOUR T's in a row in the middle. It also has EIGHT consecutive capital letters in the middle. Interesting!

You are in as backup #1. One person has already quit and nicely seems ready to refund me the signup fee, so the chances of you being needed seem to be fair, so check back tomorrow. So, you're first in line as backup. I'll send you a PM if needed and you can accept PM's from newbie members.

Okay, please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
Thanks.

The tasks are mostly verifying hashes and digital signatures. Verification of some claims would also involve an internet search. However, learning how Zenoribbon works is definitely needed to some small degree. There is some small chance you'd still be needed as a backup evaluator.

Your in as backup evaluator #1. I'll send you a PM in the very possible event one of the first three evaluators quit. The $5 BTC is on its way.

EVALUATION TASK 1 OF 4

This message is for the three people acknowledged here as evaluators and paid the $5 USD signup fee. Though of course anyone can participate but will not be paid unless agreed. I will send PM to backups if more paid evaluations are needed.

I expect this to be the most complicated task taking 20 minutes, and the remaining tasks will be more simple. So, you'll be paid $5 USD as BTC upon completion of this task within one full day of completion. If this took substantially longer then please note that. Your general job is to evaluate as you would evaluate anything using basic critical thinking skills. Loose interpretation of these instructions is acceptable to a reasonable degree. Your specific job is this:

1. Generate an evaluator identity.
Suggested verification toolkit: https://tweetnacl.js.org/#/sign

Please generate a signing encryption key you wish to use for your evaluation tasks at the Javascript website provided. You may also use any other widely available and simple to use method of digital signing. Your public key is your evaluator identity.

2. Understand a Homestead Claim
In addition to what Wikipedia says about homestead claims, there is this in relation to Zenoribbon:
Zenoribbon is based on the Public Settlement Network. The Public Settlement Network is a network for sharing public claims as a formal system of public posting defined by consensus. The Public Settlement Network accepts claims regarding all property which includes cryptocurrency. Zenoribbon is transacted using public posts. Until the network is online, a number of message boards will provide a rudimentary beginning for Zenoribbon-related public claims that can be evaluated by any Zenoribbon claim evaluator. This system will be automated, but starts out as human verified. The claimchain for now consists of the claims made to that messageboard at zeronet.freeforums.net, though any messageboard believed to be acceptable by consensus may be used.

3. Verify a Homestead Claim
The first Known broadcast location of such a claim is: https://boards.4channel.org/vip/thread/99136
Note: Also posted to zeronet.freeforums.net and other broadcasters.
Run a cursory internet search to see if there are other prior homestead claims to "Zenoribbon" or "Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road" as the claim was allegedly first made on 4Chan. This ensures that the first person to claim the original work is given the highest honor to the claim. Then, presuming to find no prior claims are found by you, make the following evaluation statement by copying and pasting this text to a plain text document evaluation statement:

Evaluation Statement:
Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and was unable to find any earlier homestead claim to any similar works as named or abbreviated "Zenoribbon", though ZR is too generic of a term to search and so ignored.
I honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement:
Signature (of hash):

Alternative Evaluation Statement if Claim Invalid:
Claim Identifier: 26HCsa7MldWXjplJMd6Js++bitjDw+ILhkQ1rn9/2R+6DVmh/EX43vEYIrYzppabv8DKy5OSglHwPYq4GbPIwg==
Full Property Name: Zenoribbon of Rainbow Road
Abbreviations: ZR, Zenoribbon
I searched the internet for a few minutes and found an earlier homestead claim at the following URL:
(replace this line with the URL found)
I do not honor this homestead claim as an original creation.
Hash of the above evaluation statement:
Signature (of hash):

4. Hash the evaluation statement (beginning with "claim identifier") and ending with "original creation." using the SHA-512 hash such as the webpage linked to above. Copy & paste the hash after "Hash of above evaluation statement:" to your plain text document.

5. Sign the hash using your generated digital signature key. Add your signature to the end of the evaluation statement after "Signature (of hash):".

6. Post your evaluation statement to this thread.

Thank you for your time! If anything is less than easy, just stop and post a question or comment here and I'll help. I'll try to respond to anything posted here in less than one day.

Interested and capable.
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Can I take part ? I am interested in this claimchain thing.

I’m sorry I read your first message incorrectly.
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You provided your public key but I need the signature as well. Unless you saved your public key, you'll need a new one too. I need the public key and the signature of the message.

After an example of the system, I'm hoping it will actually be self-expanatory by example. I don't expect people to read that whole thing at all... just the retrocast transaction snippets which I'm hoping just the very first paragraph will cover as the other sections on it are more involved. So, hopefully less than a page of reading will be needed. And even that 14 pages is part of a full book which is a complete plan of action to localize social power structures. I greatly appreciate your time and will make this as quick as I can for the evaluators. An evaluator is really two parts, verifying the signatures and then giving a common sense opinion on the claim ledger entries. The software isn't written yet to make it automated.

Interested in this job offer, Have a lot of experience and can help you.

Address:

Regards

Okay, I try to look in here, from time to time.
I have already researched something about Zenoribbon, unfortunately there is not much to find about it.

But just the fact that you are already registered here since 2011, lets me guess that you are a person who is more than familiar with the cryptography and all arround it!

However, the approach that people access content that was created before a certain point in time is understandable for me. But I still have to work on the whole Use Case in my mind...
I will have to read further into the topic, 14 pages PDF are not a little bit to read!

Now I have to work first, the money for food and accommodation is not earned by itself, unfortunately...

//edit: By the way, I've received the first $5 in BTC from you. Thank you very much!

If I should not fulfill any agreement in your eyes in the future, and you would like a refund, please contact me before you leave bad feedback in my account here. I will, if you are right, pay back everything!

I have a good knowledge in this. Like to join
join

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May I ask what manual tasks are needed?

I am a Junior dev. Count me in if you still need people

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Hi, I have knowledge of computer science, I can help with this task.

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Okay, using this online javascript TweetNacl encryption toolkit:https://tweetnacl.js.org/#/sign
sign your bitcoin address just provided and copy/paste the public key you used to sign it, and you're in as a backup tester, meaning you'll get $5 BTC to join and more if you are needed as a backup at any point over the next three days, which chances are you will be needed since its unlikely everyone will remember to check this thread every day for three days!

I've got to go for now and will check back in about 13 hours to relay you the funds and such.

You're in. As I've said with the others, the rest of the money is sent after four simple evaluation tasks that take place over the following three days.

First someone "encrypts" a "digital container" with a digital asset by hashing the container text along with a secret code. Then someone announces WHEN that secret code will be released along with the target destination container of the "digital container". This information is published to consensus-accepted publishers as "broadcasters". So if 4chan was an accepted broadcaster, this information could be relayed to 4chan for example. So, if one is satisfied that there are not too much hostile contesting information on any of these channels, one releases the secret code at the designated publication time. Knowing the formerly secret code then allows anyone to hash the original message including the secret code and see that the container hash is correct. This is considered a "retrocast transaction". Its done this way because its quite simple, and Zenoribbon is focused on simplicity.

I’ve got some work with JavaScript as well. I’ve only got a few posts but have been here a lot longer

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@OP, I'd like to take part in the opportunity. I'm a junior Frontend Developer. I write javascript codes and I'm a blockchain enthusiast.


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Great, just visit the thread once a day for the next three days for the four "manual" transaction evaluations. The main idea of a retrocast message is that you relay the encrypted content you want to broadcast for a specific synchronized time ahead of time. Then you release the key to viewing that content on a targeted time so that it is released to everyone at approximately the same time.

Sounds good, will do.

Thanks, for the remaining funds just come back once a day for the next three days and you'll do something like what you just did, but also I'll ask for your general thoughts on the system you're participating in. Basically paid to give a very simple opinion... nothing advanced. (like the idea, needs work, i hate it because blah blah blah, etc). I'll just ask that you put some thought as common sense into it.

Very gladly, this sounds interesting...

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*Hash this message including the stars*

If you correctly hash the above message, then the job is yours. Use tweetnacl.js.org/#/hash which is a wireguard encryption toolkit demo as an oversimplified explanation of that webpage.

I would love to help out as an Evaluator and understand the blockchain quite well. If there is still room I’d like to sign up
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We need evaluation agents have very basic knowledge of the idea of blockchains, basic knowledge of what a hash is, and basic knowledge of using digital signatures. While Zenoribbon uses claimchains rather than blockchains, claimchains are simpler than blockchains. So, if you understand blockchain then claimchain is a walk in the park. We accept any member with 8+ posts (before yesterday) on a first come first serve basis.

You will not be asked to do anything suspicious like download executable files. The only tool you will be expected to need for evaluation is the TweetNaCl encryption page, which is a well respected Javascript page you can use with any internet browser offering online digital signature verification and hashing. Of course you will not be asked for any personal information, passwords, etc. for this task. The only information we need is your BTC address to pay you.

Your simple job will be to check to see if there are any public posts at three specific message boards once per day for three days, though I will use this websites PM system if I can to inform you of any posts with a link to the post(s). There are about four posts that will need to be evaluated initially over these three days which serve as template examples of the Public Settlement Network system used to process transactions. And yes, this digital money works by a series of public posts that anyone can read and understand with minimal effort. And of course this process will be automated at a future time.

You will receive $5 USD as BTC initially to join and read how retrocast transactions are supposed to work at zenoribbon D0T freeforums D0T net as proven by a one paragraph or longer explanation in your own words by reading that section and also the Zenoribbon transaction example section. You are then expected to report your basic understanding on this thread. Then $10 $USD as BTC more will be received after the third day for your participation. Broadly speaking your job as evaluator is to simply use your gut instinct to evaluate a claim just as you would any other random claim made on the internet... by thinking about it rationally and to your personal experience. The up to four evaluations are expected to take five minutes each to verify hashes/signatures, while the other 40 expected minutes taken up by doing your best to understand the system. Of course the system is deterministic according to very simple rules at its core, so only minimal thinking is needed just as blockchain is just a computation that is verified by validating digital signatures and/or hashes.

This process is quite simple because its all in human-readable language made to be easily understood when you look at the transactions. Total time taken is expected to be one hour but this is not guaranteed, though it is guaranteed to take less than two hours. Post your BTC address here if you want in as a tester. The first six people who have authored at least 8 posts before today on this site will receive the USD $5 signup as evaluators with the commitment to evaluate, and all of the first three people to actually serve as evaluators (based on first come, first serve) receive USD $10 more dollars after the third day.

Thanks and I will do my best to make this as easy for you as possible.