Eve of 9/11 POTUS says he gonna get dem ISIL good

Ekaros

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Quote from: zolace on September 15, 2014, 11:40:01 AM

Now we can get into a pat argument about whether it's about religion, or land, or power. That doesn't particularly matter either. ISIL won't last more than a few years, but there will be another group to follow it. There's no doubt about that. It's one of the common things about people who think they know what is best for you. They just don't stop.

True, maybe once there is a stable government solution is not topple it. People tend not to like getting their families and friends killed. And such people not have much to lose.

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Now we can get into a pat argument about whether it's about religion, or land, or power. That doesn't particularly matter either. ISIL won't last more than a few years, but there will be another group to follow it. There's no doubt about that. It's one of the common things about people who think they know what is best for you. They just don't stop.

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Quote from: noviapriani on September 15, 2014, 11:25:19 AM

The Dems were always critical of Bush and his "war on terror" because you can't bomb a tactic, which makes said war perpetual. Obama effectively declared war on ISIL which is pretty substantially different. That's not to say there won't be an enemy to fight when ISIL is gone, of course.

Bush was simply being more honest. There is a fight between religious extremists and the west. It doesn't matter if we think these people are misinterpreting the Koran, or whether Kony is misinterpreting the bible, or whatever. They are a danger in the same way religious freaks have always been a danger. There are more ways to battle them these days, and we have more advantages, but they remain dangerous.

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Quote from: noviapriani on September 15, 2014, 11:25:19 AM

The Dems were always critical of Bush and his "war on terror" because you can't bomb a tactic, which makes said war perpetual. Obama effectively declared war on ISIL which is pretty substantially different. That's not to say there won't be an enemy to fight when ISIL is gone, of course.

You would fit right in with 1984....Remember the Ministry of Truth? You could be a high official; you really got it down .

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The Dems were always critical of Bush and his "war on terror" because you can't bomb a tactic, which makes said war perpetual. Obama effectively declared war on ISIL which is pretty substantially different. That's not to say there won't be an enemy to fight when ISIL is gone, of course.

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Obama is not going to do anything against the ISIS at all. He has no intention to stop the terrorists in either Iraq or Syria. Else, he would have helped the Peshmerga, which is fighting the ISIS there. Now he is saying that he will help the rebel groups in Syria instead. Just remember that a number of such rebel groups had earlier defected to ISIS, taking their US-made weapons with them.

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He says a lot of things. Piss-poor in the "doing" department, though. Listening to that speech, it became obvious GWB wrote it for him."There will be no safe haven." That's as good as "you are for us or against us'".

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At one point O'Bama even said the US stood for freedom, for justice, for dignity - these values guiding the nation since its founding, (apart from the Mayflower white boys robbing America off the red injuns and then filling the cotton fields with slaves from Africa). But overall the US has repented and is doing some good shit abroad, with this latest plan looking like 20 long years of whooping Arab ass with drones and shit.

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On the eve of 9/11 POTUS boy Brack O'Bama say he is gonna get them ISIL real good and he is gonna degrade them, and he gonna destroy them, and git a whole can of whoop ass on dem asses, even going in to Syria ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbsGRYySNYQ

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"WASHINGTON — U.S. President Barack Obama has ordered a protracted, open-ended military campaign that will expand air strikes to support Iraqi and Kurdish ground troops.

At the same time, Mr. Obama said he will extend the airstrikes into Syria where ISIS controls the northern half of the country.

The new strategy essentially gives U.S. forces the power to strike the terror group wherever and whenever they wish. Prior to this, air strikes could be employed only to protect U.S. personnel and for humanitarian missions.

“Our objective is clear: We will degrade, and ultimately destroy ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counter-terrorism strategy,” he said. “This counter-terrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless effort to take out ISIL wherever they exist.”

The president laid out his plan Wednesday evening in a prime-time televised speech to the nation from the White House, saying that after months of preparations he is “poised to go on the offence” against ISIS."

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