Topic: >>>>EVEN WE ARE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS CLOUDPOST YOU ACCUSED US OF CHEATING<<<<< (Read 1063 times)

Jaycee99 suddenly stopped responding with all caps wall of text after I showed pure facts. All his walls of text are in fact misleading shittalking where he tries to hide the truth.

He also left me bad feedback for "false accusations and false answers". I really think these 3 guys deserve red trust to be out of most bounty campaigns, hope they'll get it.

There's couple of other users registered near to the others on the spreadsheet that are both Filipino and have numbers at the end of their name:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tanghere02-955917 tanghere02
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shimbark123-1009626 shimbark123

Both now on the same campaign.

Edit: Possibly https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/njb18-954583 Njb18 as well. No posts in the Filipino section but registered a couple days away from tanghere and on the same campaign.

yes, absolutely right. He knew the rules perfectly and that's why he returned Aventus signature when I've calculated stakes (he will say he didn't know the rules, thread got deleted (I have a screen with rules though and a moderator can look into it too and see that I'm telling truth)). I didn't realize it at first and fount out it only during my investigation.


Aventus signature bounty v1 - I finalized the table on Monday, the 24th of July and didn't notice the cheating at first (and I mentioned multiple times when I will finalize the table so all participants were aware of the date!).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g816oslXesG67GjaB9Nbb69oKB3H6Iz1mK7h_TrnshM


Primalbase signature bounty

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15HNBQFoomtW0PsuPZw9Zi9uA37vaGr5J3BWBn4Rm6nA


Screenshot of signature/profile activity time when I checked these accs on Sunday, the 30th of July (I calculate and give stakes on Monday and it's written in the rulse, although I mention that I will do multiple checks), found it to be a very stange coincedence and started my reserch:




Aventus signature bounty v2 - you can see same joining pattern.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10jFJsbOWlVjmg1Ic_qM9dLhcZAANKnJyFOC7xoMLGAQ


In local forum, other member checked the posts of these 3 "individuals" and found out more interesting coincidences:

So have I got this right: Are you saying they were on one campaign then switched signatures to collect a bounty then back again to cheat and claim another?


I've asked an admin to look into it.


And this is where the excuses start. It's always someone else who just happened to be posting on your internet connection. What was this other account?

You edited your post about participation in Aventus signature bounty v2. And you cheated in and lost your stakes in signature bounty v1. Don't try to misrepresent the situation.

Again. What happened.

1) 3 guys (SugoiSenpai, Jaycee99, galestorm) join Aventus signature v1 almost the same time. They wear signatures and do posts, receive stakes.
2) These 3 guys join Primalbase (also almost the same time), receive stakes and rewards for signature. ( I discovered this cheating much later)
3) Again all 3 guys return Aventus signatures and when I check everything on Monday, 24th of July, they are good and receive the stakes.
4) All 3 accounts join Aventus signature v2 again (with the same pattern you start to recognise already). BUT MOST IMPORTANT PART: all 3 guys enter WAVES address instead of ETH for the project they were "promoting" for 3 weeks (and all 3 of them failed to learn that Aventus will be base on Ethereum blockchain and will use only Ethereum for crowdfund and will issue AVT tokens only on ETH blockchain). Is this possible? Same very specific mistake.
5) I check signatures during the week, find out that all 3 users changed signature (what a coincedence again!) all 3 users were active the similar time during that day (I have a screen too), and that's when I suspect something strange and start my reserch. I discover 2) much later...

All the links are available, I posted them in another thread.

Jaycee99,

1) You cheated (paricipated in another campaign while Aventus campaign was not over) - must be a surptise for you, itsn't it? If you cheat, you get disqualified from campaign. If you enter bounty campaign, you agree with bounty manager and project team decisions. Do not say all that crap like "you didn't know the rules, forgot them, your friends told you to join another signature campaign, bounty thread got deleted etc etc".
I clearly stated in the thread many times not to remove signature until I calculate stakes on Monday, 24th of July and you managed to join Primalbase signature (all 3 of you) on 21st and 22th of July and even got the stakes and bounty reward. All 3 accounts had signature on Monday, the 24th, but the fact that you got Primalbase stakes and reward means that you were wearing Primalbase signature, so Sylon gave you stakes.

2) I hope moderator will check out all the facts and decide if you're just 3 friends or 1 person using 3 accounts to abuse bounty campaigns and claim bounty rewards. I have my own opinion base on facts, I wrote them clearly and I will not change my mind.

3) I had a talk with Aventus directors and explained them the situation and showed all the facts and they agreed with my point of view.

And most important thing for others: Jaycee99 intentionally try to fool forum members and try to look like an innocent victim.

>>>You still dont get it behind the facts you proven the posting style is coincidence and I was suprise as well that we have the same style <<<


I have a number of 99 but iam not a altaccount user but actually. Okay  Iam here I tell the truth someone I know log into bitcointalk.org by using my phone and I get paid on posting but not joining campaigns because he wants it  become sr. Member. Plus Iam not one of those Pilipino alt account  user here.

Iam willing to share my IP address wallets but would like to aks from professionals first and I would inform my friends as well this is the last option I can think of.(or we can do this via online chat to cloudpost or to the head of aventus.io)

Here Know I know why you cloudpost suspected us SugoiSenpai was the 2 of us because he was the first one to join its because he was the one to informed us about this bitcointalk.org I know by telling you all this is not a evidence but It wont hurt if I did ( but if any of this post I made is the reason giving me red trust its up to all of you )

You still push us of one user cloudpost ? We already told you we well make a groupchat that can cover our Identity that everything is filtered just to prove to you we are innocent you have a slack right why not there if its possible? We will talk to you and care to deeply explain cheating because I jaycee99 informed you that I EDIT MY ENTRY that I will not join the campaign.
And if you still going to say you still cheated by changing and join campaigns together and taking advantage of the payments hell no. We discuss this around and around why dont you inform us that you cam talk to us or the head of aventus (and if your thinking of SugoiSenpai will just get to girls/person just to keepthe 3 accounts safe will no) just to prove that WE ARE 1000% DIFFERENT PERSON

6eth yes I lost it and Iam making this because I made an effort here jaycee99 made effort

And yes Iam making topics about this to ask about AVENTUS v1 that was deleted I was asking about the important info that we mught miss.

If someone suspected us at first but saying that we did not nothice it because we are not one person

Why do you all think that Iam wasting time just to prove that Iam clean??? the same for my friends that I think lose hope.

Now adding an other issue about campaign primalbase just wow cloudpost you really want to win do you? And give js a red trust?

Here is the thing simmilar pattern because Philippines the local board has no good thread un like before so thats why same pattern is been done the same of the Pilipinos

How does that prove anything? In fact, two accounts are registered days apart which is often indicative of alt accounts (though obviously not conclusive by itself).


A couple of these users were also previously suspected to be related along with many others (though they haven't been looked into yet unfortunately). Your campaign has probably been abused en mass by farmers and these accounts are likely only the tip of the iceberg. I noticed a while back that there seemed to be a lot of Filipino users who were farming accounts posting one after the other and most of them had numbers on the end of their usernames (with dozens and dozens already banned for shitposting and copy and pasting). The following have all since joined Shadowcoin as have some of the ones you mentioned that were on a list of suspected accounts belonging to the same user and also have similar sign-up dates:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/krillin61-972949 Krillin61 March 22, 2017
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kersh768-973462 Kersh768 March 23, 2017,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bowly88-975077 Bowly88 March 27, 2017
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sacrifries11-989450 SacriFries11 April 24, 2017

I've asked them to be looked into but there's dozen and dozens more that follow a similar pattern.

hilariousandco, please look at this post with proof of these guys cheating during the signature campaign and with evidence of them being twinks of multi accounts users (that's just my point of view): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20515866

First of all, Jaycee99 and "others", I repeat, I didn't publically accused you in the forum. Probably  I see you and your alts (which is still my opinion) made lots of threads and post about the situation, I only answered to your posts in one of the threads. But I'm glad you made this thread, I believe you 3 deserve a red trust.

All that "reputation" butthurt is because "they" lost bounty reward worth ~6 ETH.

These "3 friends" are basically doing similar things in a same pattern, I spotted that pattern and as a bounty campaign manager have a strong opinion this a single person managing 3 accounts. Also they violated the rules of Aventus signature bounty v1 and managed to participate in other campaign and even receive reward (primalbase campaign) before Aventus signature bounty was over. They clearly knew the rules of bounty v1 - they couldn't leave the campaign before it's closed (they said that the thread was deleted, we don't remember the rules bla-bla-bla, everything was very unclear) but they joined another campaign, received the stakes and returned signature when I was checking the signature (it was discovered some time later). They joined Aventus signature v2 and when I was checking signature codes (on the other day, not when I was supposed to do that), I found different signatures on all 3 accounts and started my research.

Anyway, they entered the bounty campaign, where Aventus team decides everything (not forum moderator), by participating they agree with bounty manager decision. You can talk to Alan and Annika (Aventus project directors) and appeal my decision, but Alan and Annika are intellegent people, they will check all facts and agree with my decision.

My post is a bit chaotic, sorry for that. I can make a very well-structured post if needed.

SugoiSenpai and galestorm I hope someone would go in a much deeper investigation than cloudpost the maneger of aventus did.

if you clearly look at our profile the joining date is different  (I dont know if this can be the proof you might think Iam just saying this as a same person controlling the 3 accounts but no Iam saying this because we are different individuals and in behalf of clearing my name/user name and the same as for my friends)

Sad to say 1 of them almost letting the issue go because we have no fight and clearly we small proof that is not reliable and the other I dont know I think she is just busy at her school but as for me Iam just managing my time here.

Please Iam begging someone to help and message cloudpost to give our payment form the effort we made and delete the word cheater at spreadsheet( EDIT:If we are proven inoccent to your/someones eye ).

What were the two other accounts you were accused of cheating with?

Before accused us of a garbaged post please take time to read my post or use a translator even if its kind a wrong.

Say what you need to say okay I here to learn Bitcointalk.org if that's what you think be it plus sorry if I did not explain why its all caps my key board is broken I had use my computer when I posted this thread of mine. Its not to me if you dont wabt to believe me that my keyboard was broken but now fixed but Iam using my cellphone now.


Yup it was from reputation board because I see that no one clearly helps me there to prove that Iam not a cheater I remembered that cloudpost told me from a PM discuss this at meta AND CLOUDPOST IS WILLING to communicate with me and my friends as well. Sad to say even cloudpost did not clearly saw this one so its okay as long I will be helped by the great investigators here.

Plus Iam posing/quote some form it sa it will be a proof it may be not as big as cloudpost accusations but I believe that this will will be solve, the truth of being not a cheater and a multi account user.


Yup its a better place but here ( Ill queto cloudpost massage to me )


You see rhis is my reason.

If someone will deeply look at my past post this past few days cloudpost posted at the Philippines thread at that time I was asking my fellow Pinoy for help because Aventus was deleted. So than my friend posted a thread that catch cloudpost ayes she noted me about it and I read the whole thing that made me post back/talk back even my proof is small.

You and the other members of you probably shouldn't have been accepted to a signature
campaign in the first place.  Everything you write is garbled garbage, and in raging caps
lock to boot.  You're not here "to learn bitcoin" at all; you're here to shit post all over this
forum, just like everyone else on that local board.  I'm just going to say this:  If you got
banned unjustly...this forum is richer for it.  No problems from my perspective.

It was moved from the Reputation board.

I can agree with that but I don't feel like quoting a bunch of garbage posts from the history. To be frank, I don't really care enough to do it. Maybe if OP bitches a little bit more then I'll bring it up

IAM TALKINH TO cloudpost at the same time informing all of you and we want to ge help here.

WE ARE NOT BLIND! WE CAN SEE! PUT CAPS DOWN!

Also it looks like you are talking directly to cloudpost, i don't see why is this in meta. Better place for this post is PM.

THE PHILIPPINES FORUM STATED THE OBVIOUS THAT WE ARE CHEATER VERY WELL THAN I said to mysefl

Clloudpost can I ask again why did you put CHEATERS NOT OTHER SIGNATURE EVEN I ALREADY EDIT MY PARTICIPATION/REGESTRATION AT THE THREAD?


OTHER ONE IS HERE



YOU STILL ACCUSED OF  ONE PERSON CONTROLLING THE  ACCOUNTS?

you posted this and I THINK THAT YOU WILL SPOKE OF YOU ABOUT CHEATING NOT MULTIUSER ACCOUNT SO NOW YOU LITERALLY PUSH THAT WE cheat??

I DARED SOMEONE TO HELP ME TO GET THE AVENTUS V ONE TO BE SEEN AGAIN WE WILL SEE IF WE DID BREAK RULES AND ACCEPT IT but if you still accused us of cheating well lets fight for that NOT MULTI ACCOUNT USERS WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE WILLING TO TALK TO YOU BUT FILTERED VOICE AND FACE FOR INTERNET SAFETY REASONS, IF YOU KNOW WHAT i MEAN.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT SOMEBODY IN OUT LOCAL FORUM PROVE THAT WE ARE SAME BUT I SAID COMMON SENSE

STATING ON THE OBVIOUS AGAIN, AGAIN COMMON SENSE WE ARE FRIENDS WHO ARE TOGETHER HERE TO LEARN ABOUT BITCOINTALK.

THE ANSWER IS STILL IN MY HEAD THAT YOU JUST GIVE A FACT OF THREE CAMPAIGNS THAT WE JOINED ARE THE SAME  PLUS OUR PROFILE BUT LIKE i said  we are friends AND IF ALL OF YOU THINK HERE THAT ITS THE OLDEST TRICK OR WHAT NO ITS TRUE WE ARE FRIENDS WE HAVE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS SETS E MAIL AND WALLET PLUS CELLPHONE NUMBERS AS WELL AND READY TO CHAT WITH YOU NOT WITH YOUR FRIENDS

AND

AGAIN IF YOU WILL STATE CHEATING WHY THE HELL PUT CHEATER  AT SPREADSHEET V ONE AND TWO YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT DIFFERENT SIGNATURE OOH YEAH i REMEBER YOU ACCUSED US OF CHEATING WITH THE SAME PERSON OF THREE ACCOUNTS BEEN USED AT VI >>>>AVENTUS<<<<<.

PLUS WE ARE DIFFERENT PERSON AND WHY V ONE WAS AFFECTED AGAIN? WE CLEARLY FOLLOW THE RULES DIFFERENT PERSONS HAVE NOT CHEATED/TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OUR PAST CAMPAIGNS  AND DID NOT CHANGE THE SIGNATURE EVEN V ONE WAS FINNISH THE MISTAKE I CLEARLY SAW IS V ONE SHOULD NOT BE DELETED BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT SEE THE RULES HERE LIKE WE THINK OF WE MIGHT DID MISSED ANY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT IT SHOULD BE NOT DELETED IF DISTRIBUTION OF PAYMENT IS NOT YET SETTLE.



BYE THE WAY WHY DO WE STAND AND FIGHT? OH NOW I REMEMBER YOU ACCUSED US OF CHEATING AND SAME PERSON OF THREE USER

AND BY THE WAY WE STAND FOR THE RIGHT