Topic: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American (Read 1034 times)

I'm okay with this. Could give them say 100k per year for dutifully wearing their MAGA hats against the 250M settlement.

But they'd have to buy the real MAGA hats, not some cheap imitation knock-offs.

you can watch youtube where every retard can say something

catholic schools are catholic, thats a religion, native americans chanting racist slogans without even being native americans are the racists,

they hate maga because they hate work, they only want to beg for welfare from white americans etc.

why are maga kids evil? they just want to make america great again, while native americans are racists and nazis, you are completely misoriented.

people of all colors wear maga hats.

besides native americans are also immigrants.

look at that digusting racist and hateful mob that wrote those twitter messages.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/01/07/cnn-settles-in-covington-lawsuit-n2559119

https://babylonbee.com/news/as-part-of-settlement-with-nick-sandmann-cnn-hosts-must-wear-maga-hats-while-on-the-air

Communist Directive of 1943 is identical to todays politics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fDXZNVgu0k

THE MAGA HAT MELTDOWN YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm-KPZ61q7s

Tim Pool runs down some recent history as far as who instigated what violence when:

' "Journalist" SHOCKED That Antifa Are Listed As TERRORISTS By Security Agencies" '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdC-vMJxdE

The propaganda techniques of inciting violence by the media are well understood and this is a textbook example.

As you should know, those techniques having been a major crutch of those who believe like you do.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-19/covington-high-school-student-files-250-million-defamation-suit-against-washington

The media did an oopsy. When this is over with Sandman is going to own a media empire and leave a bunch of mobbing celebrities hosed. OOPSY!

^^^ BOOM: Here’s The Big Name “HIT LIST” That Have Received Lawsuit Letters From Covington Lawyer - https://ilovemyfreedom.org/wow-check-out-the-list-of-lawsuit-targets-that-sandmann-family-attorney-just-sent-letters-to/

After I read the report shown below, and watched the video showing the whole story, we see how biased the media is, and even Snopes (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-26/snopes-refuses-correct-nathan-phillips-stolen-valor-fact-check-google-facebook) is biased.


The REAL Story About the "MAGA Kids" and the Native Elder the MSM Won't Tell You...




Watch the video that shows the rest of the story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZTDIoywwGk.

Look at you still intentionally pretending like you think I meant the media itself made threats. The media doesn't need to make threats. The media says LOOK AT THOSE EVIL WHITE TRUMP SUPPORTERS BEING RACIST! GO GET EM! Then the threats are made based on lies. Then they lie some more to cover up the fact that they lied. Then you lie and pretend like you don't understand the difference. Then you all lie lie lie until you are lying in a pile of liars because you started a civil war playing your LAARPing games.

Someone blamed "the media" for those threats.  No one has cited a single threat to those kids that was made by the media.   Its the same logic as saying Trump was responsible for bombs at CNN.

No ducking and dodging please.

It doesn't matter how or why you "didn't know of any threats."

You were 100%wrong.

This pretty much sums it up, minus the violent mobs part...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdOwZRFlXlQ

This video is awesome.

So I don't share the same goals than you? Funny. Please tell me what are your goals that I don't share.
Stupid video of a stupid guy simply trying to take a moral high ground.

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Ok so for coins4commies I'll start with an apology is you found me rude against you on this thread, this was not my intention.

Please point out when that happened and i'll happily argue and apologize for any aggressive behaviour towards you if it wasn't appropriate. I tend to go angry on certain subjects important to me but I'll normally cool down after some times ^^
You let the door openned for some kind of retaliation or surveillance for the kids. You're not asking prison time for them and I haven't written that. I'm not "hiding" behind anything, simply answering this statement of TECSHARE by the obvious fact that no one here is asking for the kids to be put under scrutiny. Except MAYBE you.
That's from somewhere else right? Give me the link and I'll answer back. I don't just throw a grenade then leave, if you answered normally I come back to you... Sorry if I've been missing an answer. It happens.

What I said exactly:

You are taking random anecdotes of violent threats made by random individuals and placing the burden of responsibility for those acts on anyone who criticizes the school.  That is ridiculous.  I didn't say I didn't know of ANY threats being made, but that I didn't know of any threats being made by "the left" in general, "the media", or anyone I know personally or see posting on this site.  That didn't mean I didn't know there were some wackos making threats. 

This is the same thing as blaming the CNN bombs on anyone who has ever criticized CNN's jounralistic integrity.  You cany simultaneously believe CNN is bad AND that they don't deserve to be blown up.

Here is my quote in reference to people being aggressive towards the kids

Nope. I just tend to not stick my nose into subjects I don't already understand unlike you. There is a difference between pretending to understand and actually understanding, maybe you will figure that out some day.

Why You Can't Argue with a Leftist

Last answer. I'll let you alone with your shit after that.
Can't do better than to give the quote explicitely saying "his books doesn't talk about left or right".
My bad here, I'm not 100% English fluent. Wrote jail as a synonim of "scrutiny".
I don't give a fuck what you doubt.
There is a tremendeous difference between "criticizing a left tactic" and "criticizing a tactic that the left is currently using" and if you can't see it I can't do anything for you.
You're talking like YOU are not subjected to confirmation bias. It's not surprising you think yourself above this. You're not.
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Yeha I know I will never be at the level of godly TECSHARE who has read everything, understood everything, and keeps himself informed from all political sides in an unbiased way.

That's all for me. Bye.

You didn't say "the left", you said "political". Not sure why you expect me to address what you mean and not what you said. Also Orwell wrote a whole book critical of Communism called Animal Farm so...

Who said anything about jail? Can you even remember your own statements from one moment to the next? Your whole post is just irrelevant, period.




Your interpretation of 1984 is a stretch at best. Frankly I doubt you have ever read it. Orwell doesn't need to be blatantly for right or left to describe tactics the left are very thoroughly abusing. It is alarming because it means he is actively unwilling to view any information that does not reaffirm his already currently held belief system. This is dangerous because these people then essentially become puppets for the media. Since they are unhinged and excuse violence, this is a real physical threat not only to people who disagree with them, but the entire nation as this pattern of denial of reality combined with the excusing of violence will lead to civil war. The media will continue to hype people up with lies, the left will go too far, and some one on the right will defend themselves and the left will again form more mobs to demand retribution regardless of who is at fault. Then a feedback loop of violence will erupt. That is why this is alarming.

P.S. Speak for yourself. Some of us work very hard at making sure we get diverse views on information. Not all of us are as lazy and uniformed as you, stop making excuses for your ignorance and do something to change it. No one is going to spoon feed you the truth, you have to seek it. Anything blasted in your face has some kind of agenda that is not in your personal interests, because that is the job of the media, to hide embarrassing truths and sell comfortable lies.

It's rather easy to compare 1984 thought police to KGB of course.

But the whole fake Goldstein book in 1984 is denouncing the current capitalist market and the use people in power have of war and consumation.

Orwell is both against right and left manipulation, whatever the source. He denounces both of the extremes and their abuse of English language. That's his main stance.

Sure, but I don't know if that's so alarming. Confirmation bias is strong everywhere on the web, I guess we all ignore things that are against our ideas not because we refuse to see them but because we're not even informed they exist.

My only points were:
-Orwell isn't especially against the left, he's against manipulation through language abuse
-No one here is saying we should put the kids in jail except maybe coin4commies

Your whole post is irrelevant concerning those 2 parts.

That's not exactly right. The minute regulation of everyday life which Orwell wrote about existed in Fascist Germany, more recent in Iraq, but not in Spain, Italy or South American countries. However, dozens of communist nations have exhibited this kind of control and for explicitly the reasons Orwell warned.

It's fair to say that totalitarian policies do best in totalitarian countries, which would of course be "left." Where the government owns the sources of information and promulgates what it wants to the people.

Moreover, I find it alarming that Coinsforcommies doesn't even know of the hundreds of threats against the Covington kids. That immediately shows that his news sources suppressed that, thus creating a very different reality which he fell for.

This is the usual quality debate I expect of you. This is just a straight up lie. Not only do several people on this forum excuse this behavior, many high profile media organizations continue pushing lies about the story, and these kids are still being threatened and attacked on social media. The school even had to close for security reasons.

What does any of this have to do with me personally? What makes me a victim here even? You are going to hurt your rectum pulling all this stuff out of your ass if you aren't careful. Don't bust an O ring. Just because people THINK they are pro-freedom doesn't mean they are. People's heads are so full of lies they can justify anything now days, including functionally being a nazi whilst claiming to be fighting for "truth" and "freedom". The fact that you don't understand what I was talking about below regarding Orwell explains why you don't understand this concept here. Words are just cudgels to most people now days, and they barely understand them let alone how to use them.

That is why people LIKE YOU are so fucking dangerous. You are a true believer. You run around expecting the world to always be as it presents itself, never doing any of the intellectual work it takes to truly understand yourself and others, believing what people tell you never seeking any confirmation of these points before you run around spewing them as immutable truth and acting on them. It is just a matter of time before some one hands you a brown shirt and tells you to march, or maybe a red scarf? You are a ball of highly charged emotion with a thin candy layer of logic on the outside, waiting to be directed at a target so you can melt down all over them.

YOU are the problem, YOU are the threat, YOU are the reasons events like what happened to the Convincing kids happen. You only care about the facts that serve your existing belief system and the rest is summarily dismissed. This is the kind of mentality that is going to lead the US as well as the world into civil war.




You know why I am especially rude and condescending to you in particular? It would be one thing if you were just dumb, I see dumb people all the time. The reason I don't like you is because you run around with all the confidence and authority in the world, but barely understanding anything you preach to others about, and that is dangerous to others. To me it is like dangling raw meat in front of a big cat, I can't resist reminding you how full of shit you are before you set more brush fires of stupidity.

If you yourself had read Orwell, or even had a passing familiarity with some of his work, you would know in his book 1984 that he specifically referenced the redefinition of words to the point that they eventually became the exact opposite meaning of what was intended. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Not to mention he SPECIFICALLY mentions FACE CRIME.







 There are various political stances in Orwell's work. He even directly wrote about this phenomena in his essay "Politics & The English Language", about how politicians will manipulate words until they are meaningless for their own gain. The point being that this is exactly what we see now as the left projects every accusation made against them against their opponents, flipping the meanings of words on demand depending on who it suits. So now that you are done demonstrating to everyone you have not only not read any Orwell, let alone read this thread, maybe you want to make an actual point?

blah blah blah blah

No one has been able to explain you why the kids shoudl be under scrutiny because no one here says they should be so. Except maybe a bit coin4commies but no one takes him seriously, it's like you or BADECKER who would seriously listen to such people?

Don't try to make yourself some kind of victim. We're on a clear pro-freedom forum. No one here will say we should put kids on the radar because they had a MAGA hat. No one says so, not even the leftists you hate so much.

You clearly never read Orwell.

His books don't talk about left and right but about control of the powerful over the people through manipulation and language transformation.

There is no political stance in Orwell's work concerning economical regulation, market or anything like this. It's only about institution, language and freedom.

Got it. So you'd like to tell everyone about your agonizing history growing up in a catholic school. You'd like to skirt the issue of most "student run protests" really are designed by non-student agitators and always have been.

And none of this has anything to do with the injustice heaped on good Covington students, who were unfairly abused and attacked first by 2 groups at the event, and then by the media, including yourself.

You, like them, would like to barrage negatives on the Covington students. You'd like to point out all their faults. If it's not their fault, it's their schools' fault. They're ignorant drones. wearing MAGA hats. The schools are bad. There has to be some BAD there SOMEWHERE.

And you are on a mission to find it. Meanwhile you're ignoring, and even encouraging, the evil that's right in front of you, and us. The behavior of you, others of your persuasion, and the media toward the Covington students.

I think that's very unfair and hateful.


Of course you have not, you'd have to read something other than Pravda or the US media equivalents. They received hundreds of threats.


https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/24/prosecutors-hundreds-threats-made-covington-high-students/

This was the false assumption in bold.

The kids didn't pick the school.  Thats the point.

I was talking about the climate march and the walk for our lives.

No, it's not a false assumption. It's exactly what happened, isn't it?

No one has been able to explain to me why these kids should be under any scrutiny whatsoever. So far all I see are a bunch of bigoted and biased opinions based on some anecdotal experiences that are probably long past the norm anyway. Anything you can use to distract from the fact that the left is a mobile mob of two minutes of hate ready to lynch anyone who their corporate overlords and social media masters signal to them to attack with a few clicks of a button. This event exposed the regressive left for what they actually are a mob desperately seeking a vessel for their hatred at all costs, and never taking any accountability for the results.

If the roles had been reversed here in polar political opposites the whaling and the gnashing of teeth would never end. Facts have no relevance to these people any more, as long as they have a target to unleash their indiscriminate rage upon. This is not going to stop until people start standing up to them instead of just trying to avoid them or letting them take you hostage by being louder or more extreme in lieu of facts and logic. If not they will continue escalating until people start eventually give up turning the other cheek and start defending themselves. Then the media will cry how the conservatives perpetrated it and the mob will lap it all up and go looking for retribution, creating a feedback loop of violence. Does no one else see what is going on here? This is not a new script.

I don't see these things as any big deal whatsoever. If you picked a baptist high school, or a muslim high school, you'd have an identical or likely worse liturgy of complaints. Same with a public high school.

As for your laughable "student run protests" we know that many of them were organized and actually run by Russian communists, don't we?

False assumption.  I am a product of this specific type of catholic education.  These ideas were the exact ideas I was indoctrinated with as a child. I was one of these kids.

Covington is not unusual.  Catholic schools (in all conservative areas i've seen) have been doing this every year for a long time.  The "Sex ed" is abstinence only and in morality classes, they go as far as teaching that condoms and even masturbation is a grave sin because you are killing off hundreds of millions of innocent semen for your own pleasure.  They literally have the teacher rip a baby doll apart to teach kids what abortion is.  Students do not have an option to be pro choice and there is no discussion of the debate.  Its just cold-blooded baby killers vs people trying to save innocent babies.  They either learn this indoctrination or fail.  

You mentioned other, student led protests which is very different from the walk for life.  The students do not lead the walk for life.  It isn't their idea.  The catholic community has been in opposition to Roe V Wade forever.  They use the students as pawns.  

Heres how:

-Catholic schools have certain number of service hours required to graduate.  
-You do not have to go on the trip but since most kids have no organic interest in the trip, they offer a deal where going on the trip completes your entire service requirement.  
-Local churches provide free room and board in return for these foot soldiers
-Organizers create a festival-like atmosphere to make the trip seem like a fun weekend for high schoolers who aren't at all interested in the cause

Here is an excerpt from a SF event post

You may know this community, but you have a way of looking at things that leads you to incorrect conclusions.

"Sex ed" is totally irrelevant to how people learn about sex. In fact school is largely irrelevant to the learning process, with certain exceptions. What you favor is cultural indoctrination, only you favor YOUR KIND OF IT WITH YOUR IDEAS.

The reason you don't like the Catholic process is because the kids were not indoctrinated with ideas similar to yours.

In the last two years there have been a large number of times schools and universities have let students off for days to engage in various kinds of protests, Covington is only unusual in that this is right wing. There's a rule set applied to right wing, it has to be harshly condemned. Another rule set applies to liberal protests, of course.

But with Covington your kind got caught red handed in their lies, exaggerations and totally made up crap.

Yes, you made it very clear you are not blaming them as you then proceed to refer to them as an "army of kids" as if they are in the Congo brandishing AK-47s. So you are the arbiter of what are their opinions, and which opinions are valid for them to hold? Who gives you or anyone else the right to make that determination and judge their opinions invalid? I never said The Black Israelite were the left, but that does not prevent them from participating in the crybully tactics of the left. You do nothing but run around victimizing people, then when they react you take everything out of context and proclaim it as the worst travesty to ever befall mankind.

This is why the left needs to get more and more extreme, because it is the only way they can keep people from flooding out of the left completely, because if they didn't have extremists, the left would have no one supporting them at all. Speaking of "mainstream" how much power does the mainstream media have in propagating lies against them resulting in direct threats to their lives?

I made clear that I am not blaming them.  I am blaming the adults who sent them.  These kids have a right to express their opinion but these aren't their opinions and they didn't organize this on their own.  Not one of them voted for Trump.  The idea that the presence of an army of kids demanding the government strip their rights is provocative should not be surprising.  Catholic school kids being pro life is not "their opinion".  Its the opinion of the school/church/parents.  These kids haven't even had sex ed.   These aren't assumptions.  I know this community.

Also, the black Israelites are not part of "the left" as you call it.  They are a far right group and are such a small, fringe group that there isn't much need to devote attention to ridiculing them.  Thats why the media isn't talking about them.  The media never talks about them because they aren't relevant.  No one is secretly on their side.   The Catholic church on the other hand is quite mainstream and yields a lot of power in society.   

Multiple groups can be wrong at the same time.

I anyone else seeing a theme of people who disagree changing the subject to other peripheral issues? I wonder why...

Actually Trump won the presidency with a minority of the vote, not majority. Far more people voted for Hillary than Trump. 2.87 million as a matter of fact.

I think more importantly this demonstrates the "logic" of the left.

- You make a legal statement I don't like.

- I can not control myself as a result. You are at fault for me not being able to control myself.

- End the ability to have free speech because I might not be able to control myself.

- If you do not comply to my demands I will be able to control myself even less and will become violent.

- When it comes time for accountability for my actions I will be absolved because you provoked me by having opinions I can not resist reacting with violence to

- this is all your fault

- I don't like when you point out the contradictions in my reasoning

- repeat step 1

The MAGA hat isn't a "provocative political statement." It's a hat that was a trademark of the MAJORITY VOTE IN THE LAST ELECTION. The reaction to it was provocation, direct and simple.

So who is being nasty and emotionally charged? Interesting you blame them for some how evoking that by their mere presence, but the people actually acting out the nasty and emotionally charged part are some how not at fault, but the boys are for "reasons". Essentially now your argument is if you are under 18 you have no right to have an opinion and express it in public?

Who says they were used, you? Just because they support a cause you don't agree with they are automatically guilty and deserve everything that happened right? Wearing a MAGA hat is only provocative to lunatics that can't handle people who have differing opinions than them, and then attempt to attack or shame them into compliance like the street thug brown shirts you are.

You make lots of assumptions about these kids, their beliefs, how they came to them, their parents, but not once do you address the racial slurs hurled at them, the attempts at intimidating them, the threats of violence, or the media lies to cover it up. It is almost like the left never takes any responsibility for its actions instead opting to instead continue to threaten children with violence rather than admit they were lied to and they made a mistake.

This whole event was a textbook example of the "cry bully" tactics of the left, and the media literally willing to put children at risk of violence just to get some more views and support their own political bias. You keep pretending like these kids did anything wrong. Keep exposing yourselves for the unhinged lunatics indiscriminately lashing out desperately seeking any vessel for your hatred while you simultaneously project that image onto your opponent to absolve yourself of any guilt over it.

I don't blame the kids, I blame the adults in charge of them.  The school and the parents are guilty of using children as pawns in a war for women's rights; the nastiest, most emotionally charged social war in this country right now.  Its no place for children.  Surely,  you understand that the MAGA hat in itself is a provocative political statement?  

Yes, everyone including children have a right to be politically active, but this isn't that.  I'm quite familiar with Catholic schools and the way these trips work and know enough to say that the adults in the community are absolute cowards for sending uninformed children into this fight.  

It would be different if the students came to these conclusions on their own but they didn't, they were indoctrinated and weaponized before they were old enough to understand.  They are political child soldiers.

The historical antecedent for this type of behavior was a pre-WW2 phenomena in Germany today called "brownshirts." The tactics and methods of the brownshirts pre-WW2 are EXACTLY what is being promulgated today. The MSM's Covington warping-of-the-story to meet the predetermined objectives is an excellent example, but only one of many.

For those who have not heard the term "brownshirt", here is Wikipedia's summary. Bolding is mine.

The Sturmabteilung....literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's original paramilitary. It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Its primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Romanis, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.

The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color of their uniform shirts, similar to Benito Mussolini's blackshirts. The SA developed pseudo-military titles for its members, with ranks that were later adopted by several other Nazi Party groups, chief amongst them the Schutzstaffel (SS), which originated as a branch of the SA before being separated. Brown-colored shirts were chosen as the SA uniform because a large number of them were cheaply available after World War I.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

Advocating for the genocide of political opposition... quite liberal. No one has explained to me what these kids are guilty of yet, but why let that hinder you using them as a receptacle for your hatred? They are white and conservative after all, so they are "fair game" right? Guilty by virtue of the simple fact they dare exist in YOUR world.

So as we can see the posters here who disagree are having a hard time making any arguments related to the medias lies regarding the Covington students in DC. Due to the fact they have no excuse for their violent mobbing behavior the left has managed to demonstrate itself as consisting of mobs of unhinged people willing to silence, harass, threaten, and violently attack people in order to punish those with whom they disagree. In the case of the forum distraction and selective enforcement of rules seems to be the predominant tactic since none of them can present a valid argument in defense of these actions.

Other than the sports riots, riots typically only happen because of genuine anger.  I can't think of a riot where the people were just pretending to be angry.  Maybe you can find one, because thats what you do and it would be the exception to the majority.

Also, we wouldn't need to worry about them being raped if you didn't incarcerate them in the first place.  The notion was not "separation vs consolidated detention" but "separation vs open borders".
Antifa is not a terrorist organization because it is not an organization at all.  The name means they are fighting fascists so thats what it should be but just like with anything, just because the history and name says one thing, doesn't mean every independent group would act consistently.  Priests raping children does not mean Christianity is about raping children.


People who want to keep things as they are, as they have been in the past, and generally, as they have always been.

What? First of all - define conservatives.

Oh. I see your point. If the purpose of the state is to uphold the social contract - namely "I promise not to kill you and take your stuff if you promise not to kill me and take mine." then of course the state is there to protect and defend conservatives as opposed to everyone else.

So you want a revolution to bring about your expected nirvana.

Sorry Charlie. That ain't gonna fly.

Oooh I see, so the conservatives are responsible for all deeds of state now.

"The status quo is conservative by nature", ok let's ignore the horrible fucking syntax here and assume you are trying to say Conservatives are inherently pro-status quo. This is nothing more than an assumption on your part. Also setting fire to a building is changing the status quo. Just because you are changing the status quo does not make it a good change automatically. Your argument is invalid, even IF you could prove it, which you can't.

"This is why calls for "civility" and "tame protest" are being accurately categorized as fascist. "

What... the fuck are you even... is this the kind of shit leftists tell each other behind closed doors to rationalize violence?


"Conservative activists never had to put people in gas chambers and today, they don't have to squash riots in Missouri, or separate families at the border."

Again, you are drifting way off into lefty lala land giving zero substantiation for your quite extreme and irrational statements. So riots should be allowed, and riots only happen justly? What? Children are separated from adults at the border TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING RAPED by adult migrants. Not that you give a good god damned about any of them. Also what does any of this have to do with the topic? Oh right nothing, this is just yet another desperate attempt to slide the topic off into another direction by embarrassed lefties.

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization, and if anyone doubts me look up the definition of terrorism, then go on Youtube and put in the search phrase "ANTIFA attacks" and see for yourself. This is the kind of lunacy the left uses to justify their mobbing and violence against anyone who dares question them. They sell each other the delusion that they are fighting nazis, so if they imagine REAL HARD that its true, it is ok to use violence to achieve your political goals according to them.

For the third time also, this event itself was meaningless. What offends people and was actually dangerous was how the media lied about it and promoted mob activity against these children. The left frothing at the mouth and insane as ever gleefully lit their torches and started attacking and threatening these kids and no one would correct the story or take ANY accountability whatsoever. In fact when confronted with the truth they made up MORE LIES about these kids to cover up for their own frothing lunacy and baseless attacks.

This is more important because the mob of angry idiots that calls itself the left are creating the conditions for a violent civil war, and they are completely unaware of it or the consequences of this. You are playing revolutionary, you aren't revolutionary. Get violent and watch all of your hipster lefty friends get fucked into the dirt and be too scared to ever show their faces in public again. You retards have been warned, people aren't going to tolerate this violence against them forever.

The state, by default carries out violence on behalf of conservatives.  The status quo is conservative by nature.  This is why calls for "civility" and "tame protest" are being accurately categorized as fascist.  Conservative activists never had to put people in gas chambers and today, they don't have to squash riots in Missouri, or separate families at the border.  The police, founded in this country as slave patrol, are still harassing and physically attacking people of color on video out in the open.  ANTIFA are literally the only thing holding back full blown nazism.  All of the so called free speech advocates working to give neonazis a voice are complicit in the violence they dream of carrying out.

The fact that this is even in your top 100 list of bad things happening to kids suggests that you empathize more deeply with white children and disregard the innocence of other children.  You will deny it but we post about the things we subconsciously care more about and your post record is telling.  All I can remember is how you blew off the deaths of migrant children at the hands of CBP.  

Which is precisely the goal of this harassing and mobbing behavior, to intimidate people into going against their beliefs. It is almost as if it precisely fits the definition of terrorism...

But every day, hundreds of thousands more wake up to the deliberate lies of the media and the powers behind the "Left."

And this has turned out that way. Be gracious, give them a chance to repent.

So many conservatives were all too quick to throw these guys under the bus.

I'm good with calling the kid a hero because he stood up to at least 3 factions (A) Nutcase Indian (B) Nutcase Black Israeli wannabes (C) media ...

... with a smile on his face.

Could you provide evidence for that?

So you believe that PEOPLE have a right to their bodies? I do to.

If you have control over your own body then drug laws should be repealed; prostitution laws should be repealed; as should all gambling laws.

Furthermore if you have control over your own body then the state should not force motorists to wear seat belts or helmets (if a motorcycle).  After all you control your own body do you not?

Now. I do believe I own my own body. Do you?

That is funny. "The right" can at least have a discussion including facts, logic, and critical thinking. It seems to me the sole weapon of the left now days is projection. Orwell was right. You are the enemy because you have actively made yourself the enemy, seeking people to victimize while you justify it with endless relativism, equivocation, and Postmodernist "logic".

I don't really see anyone here claiming the kid is a hero. I do however see lots of willfully ignorant people demonizing children who did nothing other than wear a hat that people are conditioned to think it is ok to be irrationally hostile and violent over.

Sadly enough, for the right There is no neutral. You're either on their side if you agree with them 100%, or on the ennemy side if you have even a slight difference....

So you're the ennemy because you havent said the kid is a hero. Even though he's clearly an asshole too.

By the way, with me and pretty much all those I know, the issues about Hillary are not about Hillary per se being under prosecuted, or Trump's associates being overprotected, but how this is indicative of attitudes and actions of our leaders.

In other words, what can we learn of what really goes on in DC from these events?

We know that much of it is not aligned with the desires of the people of the country.

Back on the subject of Hillary, no, there were NEVER fishing expeditions with either her or her husband's antics. None. Because it's all right out in the open, there's no reason at all to deny this or make excuses about it. All of the vindictive, presumptive slander directed at Trump is quite unprecedented.

At the same time, you have a number of changes in the very nature of the Democratic Party. It's virtually unrecognizable to that of ten years ago.

Noone really gives a damn about this but you and Breitbart right now   But as far as you making assumptions, I dunno, you tell me..



You kind of already did LOL, so I was going to set you straight, but I see you have this thing figured out already  


I'm glad you didn't make any assumptions LMAO.

It's funny, you decry the mainstream media and its effect on 'gullible' Leftist (through the stoking of false outrage against the boys, by your charge), yet you fail to see the effects of the media YOU ingest.

You are sitting here yelling at us about some random ass kids that no one gives a fuck about. You are spending time out of your day to talk to an echo chamber (the Politics board) to achieve what?   Ok, assume you are right. Kids are still gonna be blacklisted forever. Mainstream media has moved on to important shit. What did you hope to achieve with all of this? It seems like you are having a pity party and you are looking for guests to invite. You are displaying characteristics I associate with the 'derangement syndrome' everyone gets accused of having.

All because a talking head on a conservative blog told you the 'radical left' did a bad thing (it sounds stupid when you make assumptions about your opponent's experience in a debate, see what I meant?).  We wont even talk about the fact many conservative pundits condemned the boys as well. No, let's make this a left/right thing. Your topic is meaningless. Let me be plain; you are a hypocrite if this attack offends you, but Hogg doesn't. You are the one trying to claim moral high ground. I simply dont care about any of it. I would have to care about the opinions of you and others to waste the energy to "cover this up".

You screaming about unhinged leftism as if you know me/us, isn't about to change anyone's mind on this forum bro. Left or right. You are part of the problem. You stoke the fires of outrage to forge nothing. And in that, you serve to perpetuate the agenda of the talking heads you subscribe to. You condemn the left for its poor reaction, yet you parrot the reactionary outrage of Fox and Friends. Media bad cuz kids sad! Mean left pick on kids, must defend! This is just as fucking dumb as the lefts initial reaction of condemnation without investigation. Your words are a distraction from what really matters.

I guess that's what I was trying to say on my original post, but not so bluntly as I was trying to keep it civil.

If my indifference feels like a misdirection to you, meh. I'll sleep tonight, dont worry. Like a little soy boy SJW baby 😂🤣

At @Spendulus, I will concede that those investigations are not specifically aimed at Hillary during their creation, but the spirit/scope of the investigation was essentially thus. Had I said "Clinton Investigation", mayhaps I would have been more on target. My bad, and thank you for catching that. I concur, I have seen lesser crimes in the same vein get way harsher punishment; "money talks" is all I have to say to that!  

Again, I have bolded the on topic portion of your reply.

Now why would I make any conclusions about your political leanings when you immediately jump to distract and change the topic from one of the biggest embarrassments and exposures of the left's unhinged behavior coupled with media complicity?

What happened with those kids is not a symptom of government. Government didn't cause this. Unhinged leftists and media eager to believe anything they are told to have an excuse to demonize their opponents, at any cost caused this. Your attempts at creating equivalency are false, and the left has been REGULARLY engaged in these violent, mobbing, and harassment tactics since well before the election even took place. Frankly I couldn't give a shit less what your stance is, your topics of discussion scream "I believe anything I am told by the media". You aren't going to slip by with false claims of neutrality around here with the distract and divert fest you just pulled. The fact that you are covering up for the harassment and death threats made to children here says plenty about your leanings.

Relax.

I will concede, my last post was mostly off topic. I got passionate a bit. The majority of my last post was more in response to Spendulus; when I hear Hillary nowadays I get the itch to provide facts to belie conspiracy.

Let's see what FH has to say, or if you would like I can remove it from your thread, no issue. You are my brother, left or right. I dig the Dumbos just as much as the Jackasses, different strokes and all that.


Let me correct that for you:
WAKE UP. WE LOSE. EVEN IF WE WIN WE LOSE.

We are the same. American citizens. He is my president, just as he is yours. We just have a difference of opinion about his effectiveness.

The deplorable state of the Union, and the political climate that would foster the Covington debacle, is a symptom of OUR government. History wont care as much about our affiliations as we do now.

Edit: I just got that Fizzy Lifting Drink reference. That was hilarious  

Second edit: TEC, please explain to me what you think my political stance is. I'm curious to the stereotype you may have constructed of me, genuinely.

I'm not really urging anyone to ignore anything, I'm just asking for relevance to be considered. Sure, this may irritate you because you empathize with the Covington students. But if I search the forum, will I see a post from either of you condemning the attacks against David Hogg? You definitely wont from me; I had better shit to do LOL.

Either be offended by everything, or nothing. Selective outrage is hypocrisy by another name

And @Spendulus, I'm not even joking when I ask you this. Like, what would it take to satisfy your side that Hillary Clinton is either innocent, or untouchable? How is it that through all the investigation launched into her, her organization, there has been nothing? She cant be that slick; supposedly there are books like Clinton Cash extolling the icky vileness of her ways. So many shitty books and docs written about her "evil shenanigans", I can find like 10 unique titles on Amazon in a minute or two. Basically, I'm trying to express that her supposed misdeeds are public knowledge.

So if she is a known bad actor, that has faced oversight at the highest levels of government yet avoided prosecution..
.. maybe shes innocent?

Whitewater was 70 Million
Email Probe was 14 Million
Benghazi was 7 Million (fun fact! Congress spent more time investigating this than 9/11. Seriously, look it up)

This is the definition of insanity, repetition with the expectation of divergent results.

Meullers probe has dredged up shit at a fraction of the time and cost. Say what you will about the man, Meuller is efficient.

Anywho, back to the subject. An FBI investigation. A Congressional investigation. And most importantly, intelligence agency oversight as she actively served in office as the Secretary of State. You know. The job you need a security clearance to perform? I understand if the gravity of a security clearance has degraded in the current WH; the highest intelligence designation in the land used to mean something before they just started handing them out like bottled water to the unqualified (Kushner, Bannon).

I personally propose we spend exactly as much money investigating Trump as we did Hillary. For the sake of fairness of course XD no stone unturned...

Speaking of Stones, *cough* Roger Stone *cough*

I agree with you but not in the way you'd like.

Once this issue became an embarrassing fiasco, intelligent liberals fled from it. There's always a shiny new penny of an anti-Conservative anti-Trump story to pick up from the gutter, right?

So let's keep moving.

We don't need to discuss all that "old stuff."

Hillary's lies...server....Bengazi.....Covington...

Keep moving, nothing to see here...

Yeah why should we pay any attention to the uncontrolled insane violent mobbing of children by leftists being puppeted and wound up by television and other media? No what is important is the Russia story that we some how haven't been able to produce any evidence of after 2 years of investigation.

The protest is a non-story. The media 2 minutes of hate is the story, and it is quite convenient for the left to declare everyone ignore their unhinged behavior completely detached from reality as they condemn the right for all the same things.





Well then you haven't bothered to read the thread have you? Just because you willfully ignore documented factual information does not make it less real. Your clams of blackface have already been addressed, and it was proven already as a "white vs blue" sporting event and had nothing to do with race. Of course you ignored that post too, because you are only interested in information that supports your existing belief system.

The rest of your rambling is nothing more than your highly indoctrinated and bias opinions, and is again a view into the insane window the left views people they don't agree with through in an attempt to dehumanize and unperson them. The media and the left ABSOLUTELY are responsible for threats, hatred, harassment, and the passing on of false information as well as the continual unwillingness to admit fault as you are doing this very moment.





This fits you to a fucking T. I honestly can't think of anyone else more conditioned and brainwashed that I have come in contact with than you (assuming you aren't on the job that is). No joke. Every thought you have is thru the lens of leftist Marxist Postmodernist context. You don't get it. The "capitalists" control the communists, the people you think are your saviors are the controlled opposition. I never said anything about always, you did. The inherently collectivist left does what it is told by the glowing box, even if it says to threaten children, this event is proof. The left have no more credibility. The MSM has no more credibility. Either admit it and accept reality, or keep pretending the world will perpetually tolerate your violent delusional mobbing behavior and see how that turns out for you.

Amen!! As a mod lib, this shit is a no issue. Who gives a flying fuck if two groups of random citizens disagree with each other at a protest?  The current antagonistic political climate is the only reason I have to keep reading about this. Both sides have ran with this story; it's so inflated its meaningless. Fuck the Elder, fuck those kids. I hope that's sufficiently neutral XD.

I just cant give a fuck about people getting offended at a protest.about something as divisive a reproductive rights. And I question the judgement of allowing 16 year old kids to even attend some shit like this (this is a Catholic school, damned kids cant even legally fuck yet). Sex education for Catholics is a non starter, but yet we allow the kids to go to something like this..

Let's focus on why we are easing sanctions on Russian oligarchs with proven ties to Russian intelligence. Let's talk about being in the middle of the longest government shutdown in American history. Let's talk about Maduro expelling all US diplomats and closing all embassies in reaction to a tweet. And let's hear Cohens testimony in open Congressional session.

That, my friends, is the hot topic for the week.

You're talking about how the media handled it.

I'm talking about the event in itself.

The coverage and consequences are what they are but the event in itself is pure void. The native american did nothing wrong and the kid did nothing wrong. Anyone crying at what has happenned is a pussy. This is nothing, this is a non event.

USA shouldn't even be aware it happened.

Still the whole country focused on this nothingness like flies on a big pile of shit.

Been a while since I've been on however saw this thread and had to throw in a few cents, the media fabricated this story and these kids fully deserve an apology.
If it wasn't for the racist black Israelite's livestreaming on Facebook we would never have seen the full story for an hour before Nathan Phillips comes to them with his banging drum.

If Phillips wanted to stop a confrontation, why didn’t he march over and bang his drum in the direction of the Israelite guys?

The Why question that also should be answered, Who were the adults, and Who were the kids?"

The MSM is doubling down and saying they were all racist and not recanting that the boy not moving back and being non-confrontational is the definition of racism.

I'm glad they are threatening a lawsuit against the MSM for this if they don't change their posts by Friday.

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“If you've said anything false about these kids, they are willing to extend you a 48-hour time period — a period of grace consistent with their Christian faith — for you to, through confession, get redemption and retract and correct and apologize,” said Barnes, who is representing the students for free.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covington-parent-bishop-told-us-he-wont-apologize-to-boys-until-after-inves
https://pjmedia.com/trending/lawyer-for-covington-catholic-families-gives-media-48-hours-to-retract-and-correct-smears/
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I haven't seen anyone make threats on those kids and certainly not in this thread or in the media.  I address what I see and give evidence when appropriate. The link I posted had the picture of the kids in blackface.  It is common knowledge that these kids were in DC for the March for life.  I don't need to show evidence for something that simple.  The march for life is an event on a highly sensitive, politically charged topic and the children who attend it have been weaponized to fight for a cause they may not even be old enough to understand. These schools indoctrinate children to believing falsehoods and then send them out into the real world to protest rights of people who currently feel politically cornered.  Its a recipe for disaster that the media nor the left is responsible for.


Sounds like a clear threat to me.  First sentence is a clear ultimatum with literal violence insinuated.  If this is not a threat then it needs more of an explanation. One can only assume that violence is "what comes after that"

The behavioral conditioning part is projection and I can tell this is a prefabbed response since I know you have enough experiences on here to be able to realize it doesn't fit me. Mainstream media is controled by the capitalist establishment which I usually fight against.   Just because I don't blame the media for this (and everything) doesn't mean I am controlled by them.  You are really no different than the liberals who accuse anyone who ever thinks Trump has a point of being a Trump supporter.  

Being on the side of reality means you aren't going to be able to deal in absolutes.  People who subscribe to the notion "the media is always wrong" are no more in reality than people who subscribe to the notion that "the media is always right".   Reality is about nuance.  A lot of nuance.  

Considering that like 90% of the media is owned by about 6 corporations, it kind of is.

Which is NOT an entity into itself but is the spokesman for certain directions of business and political interests.

So you care about threats to lives over the internet all of a sudden? I see there is no objection to all the threats to the lives of these children for literally doing nothing more than wearing a MAGA hats in a group. You make lots of claims but you have zero evidence to support them.

You know what I said was not a threat, but instead of having an exchange, as with this story itself, you jump right on to obfuscating the truth and trying to mischaracterize the situation to benefit your preferred narrative. You do this because you have no regard for anyone but yourself, as your behavior demonstrates no matter how vociferously you deny it.

You can ignore reality forever, but you can't ignore the results of ignoring reality forever. This game you play where you tell yourself whatever you want to hear all the time has to stop. This continual unwillingness to do due diligence and just repeat what some one told you is dangerous to everyone, even and especially to people like you.

Effectively you and your friends have become behaviorally conditioned puppets of the corporate mainstream media. One day they are going to dance you right into a bloodbath. Being a puppet is a choice.

You just can't make this stuff up, the way they are trying to make stuff up.

Stuff like this is good for us on the right IMO because it does a lot to wake up the masses of centrists and bring them to our side.
People that otherwise pay little attention to politics, or are borderline, see things like this and it redpills them to what is really happening.
Just like the buzzfeed fake news the other day that BTFO the media they step right up to the plate to be BTFO again over these kids..

I have been following this story the entire time. Another aspect of this story is the injun feller's military history.
At first he was supposedly a Vietnam Vet "Recon Ranger" but now some stolen valor guys have picked up on the story and set the record straight.
His military records show that he never served abroad, was only ever a private, was a refrigerator repairman, went AWOL 3 times, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIXIzvyAlLA

The more mistakes like this the liberal media make like this the better to get more people to understand what is happening and it also exposes a lot of enemies..
Google search "covington violent tweets" and look at all of the violent and threatening tweets posted by many including media employees such as..

A disney producer.. Media..

I also think this is amusing, fitting, and chilling..



FACECRIME
Their are so many similarities to the classic "1984" these days it really makes you think..

Watched a bit of CNN at lunch today (no "cable" just internet at home).

WOW!

These guys are on a hate-trump-binge. First some garbage about "Cohen being threatened by Trump", then "Breaking News: Pelosi refuses House Floor for State of Union". Really? I thought that was Old News, at least a couple days. Meanwhile the running text line at the bottom is going on and on about the Emergency Dire Straits of the entire world collapsing because of the Government Shutdown.

Maybe one story in four was something other than the Hate-Trump-Binge.

What a joke.

This story illustrates how politically charged today's media has become.  It's one thing for the social-media-butterflies to jump to erroneous conclusions, that's just what they do.  But when the main-stream media jumps to conclusions you know the system is broken. 

Real reporters would want far more clarification before jumping on the bandwagon.  They might even want to review all the evidence themselves before reporting on the story, or at the very least reserve judgment and merely relay the facts.

But that's not what we get from the MSM today.  The second a story breaks they want to be among the first to report on it.  They want to beat the competition to the punch, regardless of how accurate (or more commonly; inaccurate) their information might be.  Exasperating the issue is that most reporters and media outlets tend to lean on the liberal side of social issues, and they tend to be less scrutinous of stories that support their biases.

At first glance, it appeared that the MAGA hatted youngsters were instigating the situation, and thus vindicated the MSM's hatred for Trump.  What's really troubling, is after they learned that they got it wrong, they didn't apologies to the children who's lives they jeopardized.

An excuse or reason for doing it doesn't "debunk" it.  "debunked" implies it never happened.  It is what it is and if the entire school community couldn't understand that painting themselves white or blue is ok but black is not ok, then they are indeed a racially insensitive community as everyone has assumed.
So you are threatening to kill everyone who challenges your beliefs AND their friends and family.  Are you still denying that you are a fascist?

Also, native, black, and latinx children have been killed in the open for our entire history but a white kid getting a drum beat in their face is war? Murdering hundreds of kids like Tamir rice was ok but calling sandman a racist is over the redline. 

Stealing immigrant children, locking them up and letting them die is ok but grilling a group of kids who were at best, mysoginists, and at worst, racists is walking us into war. 

I guess you invision any society that doesn't completely capitulate to white toxic masculinity to be on the brink of civil war.  Everyone else should just politely die and be oppressed or else!

My only comment on that would be that of all the elected officials in Washington DC, quite likely Trump has given by far the most jobs to more women and minorities.

The simple reason for that is the scale of his business enterprises.

But nobody talks about that, do they?

The mainstream media tried doing this to Pepe the Frog before claiming it was a hate symbol of the far right, so it's really hard to take them serious. It's a goddamn meme, but I think to the MSM a MAGA hat really is essentially a modern-day KKK hood, which is obviously ludicrous. Most probably wear it just to be contratian or make a statement. To me, Trump is just like a comedy villain at best and probably a casual racist/misogynist at worst. Comparing him to Hitler or the KKK is ridiculous, though. I don't really think he knows what the hell he's doing to be honest but neither do the people who wear those hats and I would find it very hard to take anyone serious who was wearing one.

I think you forgot about all the calls for violence against the kids, and harassment by the hate group at the event against the kids.

The kids likely have a case for defamation against many in the MSM along with the Phillips fellow.

 

It's quite impressive how Americans manage to create a story from nothing.

There was noone hurt, noone harrassed, nothing.
I don't see how anyone could sue anyone here.
And I certainely don't see how this was symbolic of anything.

And still USA manages to start a fire on the whole internet with this... Nothingness.

Impressive really.

I don't know what purpose it serves, but it's impressive.

I really hope the left is paying attention here. This event in itself is not very consequential, but is a very clear symptom of the state of modern society, not just in the US but world wide. A similar dynamic is at play all over the globe. The message is clear.

Unless you abandon this mission to maintain your own version of reality in spite of all the information being handed to you to prove otherwise, you are going to walk this nation and the world right into civil war. I promise you there is no scenario under which the left will win. You will be held down and fucked hard no matter who is the victor. It is time to end the LAARPing and make the difficult turn toward the medicine of reality. This is do or die time folks. Make the right choice or bathe in the blood of your own friends and family. You are going after people's children now out in the open. How long do you think this will be tolerated? What comes after that?

Related Video:

"#CovingtonGate: We Are Entering The Real CIVIL WAR 2.0"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX1v3IhYRk

That has been debunked:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/22/alunmni-covington-catholic-high-school-push-back-against-medias-new-blackface-claim/
There are pictures of school students participating in "whiteout" and "blueout" events in which students were in all white and blue respectively, including face/body paint.   

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/covington-catholic-students-blackface-race-issues_us_5c472a2de4b0a8dbe1752db5

I don't think there is any basis for this statement.

The kids and school have a long history of being extremely racist.  These boys weren't provoking this situation and were just minding their business on a an innocent little school trip to protest for their right to control women's bodies.

The reaction of those in the MSM and on the left was disgusting. There were people calling for these kids to get punched in the face, doxed, harassed, and worse. The school these kids go to was closed on Tuesday because of threats of violence against the school.

What these kids were originally accused of is wrong, however none of this is an appropriate response to what they were accused of doing.

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It turns out that the Indian was actually the one who instigated the incident, along with another racist, anti-white, anti-jew hate group, and the kids were actually the victims of the underlying incident. There were multiple racial epitaphs yelled at the kids.

After it came out the kids were the actual victims, many on the left doubled down and refused to admit they were wrong.

I am sure a lot of you like me tried really hard to ignore this situation as it was clearly a non-story, but the way the MSM has been covering it, the fact that it is a non-story has itself become a story.

This event was very telling of how willing the media is to lie and scream racism at the expense of causing children and their families to be mobbed, threatened, and harassed based on no evidence and how the irrational psychotic hatred manifests from the left for anyone they see simply supporting Trump.

In their mind the only way you could ever support him is if you are an active card carrying member of the KKK with a full swastika tattoo on your chest, therefore violence is justified. After all he is Hitler, and his followers are Nazis, so it is only just to stop them with violence isn't it? This event just showed how eager the left is to kill when the media tells them to. This is symptomatic of a very dangerous and serious trend not just in the US, but world wide.


Some related links you might want to look at:


The actual people yelling racial slurs, Black Israelites, a known open supremacist group:

https://youtu.be/pJujmh0cC18?t=3998


The woman who accused them of harasing her earlier spitting out endless racial slurs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be7xDHb8Xao


More video angles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zql3QKa6FZg


Some of the threats directed at these kids:




This was a message to anyone who is still interested in facts and truth. Do what we say or we are coming for you.