Topic: Explosion at Zaventem airport in Brussels (Read 1846 times)

Interesting.

Makes one wonder if we had to write something out on paper before posting it, how different it would be.

I don't disagree with any of your comments but collectively they seem to express a sort of hopelessness.

Yeah,caught me. If I post from my cell I tend to not see what I just wrote and I wander with my thinking.
This post was made with a few things being done in between.

How about i highlight the part of your wandering thoughts that appear to make sense.

Say we blame religion for people dying for a belief.
History shows religion never goes away and the issues never die. The day we convince people to stop following is the day we most likely stop breathing.
Islamic faith is a bit of the issue but we can break people off into groups. In the middle East a lot of rhe followers can not read or write, so you become easy to manipulate.
Those creating attacks in Europe ir abroad tend tobe more educated but often mentally unstable.
What better way to lash out at the world. Now people have a reason to hurt people.
You can not beat some one up and expect them to submit day after day, something eventually snaps.
So look at how a lot of these areas have been crapped on. Afghanistans history alone goes way back for being under seige.

We reap what we sew here and wait till Africa catches fire in the same fashion.

No quick answer.

This is just insane... Ive had enough about hearing about this. Something must be done, and soon.

Are we still working off the crusades or is this just the sad state of humanity! We believe we have evolved yet this will most likely test that thinking.

Them vs. US still alive and kicking 2016.


Do we allow life to be dictated to us or do we stand up and fight!

Don't be a fool.

think it out.

A western country or business makes a deal with a warlord in a tent, goes in and starts pulling oil out.  They pay the warlord.  Everyone gets a great deal. Fifty years later the local people now more educated, on Iphones now, think they should get a better deal.  They want a bigger share.  Maybe the guy keeping too much is their local warlord maybe it's the outside company.

Also don't forget, maybe those people are wrong, maybe they don't deserve a better deal. Everyone always wants more and more and more, but you only get what is reasonable profit on production.

The reason for the saying "biting the hands that feed them" is because hands that feed do get bitten.

LOL - they are, then, biting the hand that feeds them, so to speak  - you think Iraq and Saddam didn't understand what wealth they held. Fuckin hell - that has to be a joke, surely ?

This forum is going down the pan.


Anyhow, re. OP. We in Europe are on the frontline, wether we chose it or not - and my sincerest condolences go to all affected by this latest tragedy in Brussels. Stay strong.

This is mostly true, but note there's a significant difference between roughly western and central/eastern Europe. Countries like Germany, Sweden, Belgium and the Netherlands keep letting large amounts of muslims and other questionable immigrants in, thus choosing the highway to chaos and decay. Now, what happens if the percentage of muslims in a country increases even more ... ? Looking at Serbia gives one a rather clear and grim answer; this country fell apart during the 1990's due to muslims, with Serbian villages under attack and eventually the loss of large amounts of territory. Meanwhile, the Western media depicted the Serbians as evil monsters, murdering innocent muslims.

But now, multiple Western countries are beginning to see phenomena that reminds of those seen in Serbia in the 1990's; whole muslims communities are simply hostile towards local governments and society (with Molenbeek in Belgium as a grim example). More criminality, a larger economical burden and in worst cases terrorist attacks. France, Turkey, Belgium ... what country will be next to fall victim to terrorists ... ?

NOT countries like the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. Those countries are keen to keep (savage) immigrants away from their lands, fueled by a policy that's actually sane.

Yes, it was and they have also announced that there will be more attacks. Now some are saying that this attacks could have been predicted and that some secret services have warned Belgium that this wil happen. Now this doesn't really matter, we are all aware that this attacks can happen anytime, anywhere and that we don't need any special warning. We just have to have or eyes and ears open, terrorism is a closed circle with no way out.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the terrorist attacks, not that it wasn't already obvious that ISIS was responsible for these despicable Islamic terrorist attacks.

look at a poll sometime or are you one of those maoist third worldists who thinks everyone in the west is an evil class enemy exploiter

what wealth, western nations are trillions in debt and being flooded by arab rats and north african niggers partly thanks to these wars that are waged for jewish interests and no other

they aren't liberating their country from anyone in libya or syria are they, these barbarians need to be kept in line by secular strongmen

Lol deport them to where?

I'm really surprised there aren't more of these attacks.  I'm very happy there aren't more, don't get me wrong.  Or maybe I just don't watch the news enough.  9/11 was the worst I've seen, but I'm American so I'm biased.  It must be pure hell living in the Middle East.

Well, you are wrong.

First, because several warring tribal groups can each claim to be "liberating" the same country from "occupation."

In fact they are just all power hungry.

Second, because if the country is not "occupied" they'll just claim the current tyrant is in bed with the Evil Satan America, blah blah blaah and go on with their violence.

Third, because there never was anything wrong with an advanced Western culture going to a primative third world place and making a deal with a tribal chief or warlord for some of the local resources, which he didn't even value.  Then over some decades, the local people actually get some education, and start to understand things.  THAT'S when they want a bigger share for themselves. 

But the origin of the deal wasn't oppression.

Admit it - you haven't the slightest fuckin clue of whats happening here, or why. Do you ? No analysis at all. No insight. No political insight, no understanding of neo colonialism, of cultural imperialism, power relations, race relations, the Seven Sisters, the satellite/metropolis model, geo- political military strategy, nothing. Fuck all.

Admit it.

There's a bogeyman called Mohammed and he wants to eat your babies.

FFS

It is fucking amazing that people seem to think that Islam should get a free pass from any sort of criticism even if there are people running around killing people in its name, how about you people defending this stop being such a bunch of cowards?

Wow! I was at that airport exactly one month ago. I didn't like it, there was no free wifi, but the seats were comfortable. I was in Paris shortly before and after the attacks last November, I guess it's dangerous everywhere, even with increased security. It's taking a bit longer to get to the gates.

It's a good time to travel though, last December in Paris, I got a rebate on my hotel room.

It'll never happen. Europeans would rather die...literally die...than even say something bad about people who follow the violent teachings of a 7th century illiterate pedophile.

Fine. Let Europeans die.

But for fuck's sake, can we at least agree on *containing* this shit. If the population of where you live is <1% Muslim, fucking keep it that way. It's possible for people to keep the numbers low without needing to win votes. Just look into how Muslim countries keep their non-Muslim populations so low. Learn. Adapt.

PS: If you're a Muslim, fuck you.

There is no such broad majority.




Western policy = occupying the middle east (+ various North African countries) in order to liberate it of its wealth. That this region subscribes to Islam is, in the first instance, neither here nor there.





My picture = you can't be a terrorist when you are aiming to liberate your own country from occupation, and the above graph should be viewed in that context.

we = broad majority of western public who have been anti interventionist since the iraq disaster

western policy = toppling secular regimes in muslim countries

your picture = that jewmerica turned iraq into a giant terrorist training camp when it overthrew its government and disbanded the army and police

So, you are not willing or unable to answer my question about how to negotiate with them and what to offer. You can deny or disperse the problem but that will not go away.

Of course terrorism not going to disappear but without muslims that would be a lot more sporadic.

Do you ? Do we ? What makes you say that ?

What is "western foreign policy in the middle east" ?

And what makes you say that it sucks ? And in what way do we "get that" ?


How would you, for example, explain this ?

This is a question that can be examined with statistics.

how many more of these until people accept that it is time to deport muslims from europe?

You won't fool anyone with that sort of mis representation and intellectual dishonesty.  Give it up.  And stop the Takiyya please.

What are you talking about Muslims are not terrorists. I can make a bomb blast and use name of someone else and i will say that my religion is Christianity. So what you say that christians are terrorists ?

More important than the one attack, Muslims purposefully encourage endless cycles of violence, based on any of a number of alleged insults or offenses.  This is their net effect on the world.

The useful effect of a religion on a person is to encourage one or another type of behavior.  We're seeing what Islam encourages.

western foreign policy in the middle east sucks, i think most of us get that, in what way does this make the argument that fewer muslims = fewer terrorist attacks less true?

Exactly, muslims are not the only terrorists in the world. Have you forgotten about IRA, ETA and others and for how long was this problem present?

Brussels-EU MAFIA, is responsible for 6.000 suicides in Greece.

Lol. I think you have problems with logic and dont understand causes and consequences. Terrorism exists for centuries, it was always just a tool for political and economical interests. How do you think, if all muslims in the world will disappear, will terrorism disappear too?

Well, deportation is working fine in the UAE, Operation Wetback in the States was also a sound success. The root of the problem is group what wanted to be segregated from the majority and don't accept our ways of life. Of course they can do that. Back at home.

Of course not. But it has to deal with the cause and the root of this problem. When have the hatered, deportations or similar things solved any problem on this earth? And we all know that America has the fingers in this from the very first moment and that their wars and wrong decisions in arab (muslim) countries also caused this situation in Europe.

what should EU do? Accept and accept this behaviour ?

If i had to guess, this was in response to the arrest/capture of the terrorist involved in the Paris attacks.

You can try to twist many examples in defence of those terrorists, but that's not going to work. As soon as the UK govt sat down with the IRA and have made some meaningful negotiations they stopped killing people (for a while). What reasonable negotiations you wanna do with muslims? What we should offer to them? Convert the whole EU to islam, introduce sharia law and pack our women into rags?

that's what I was trying to say , sadly innocent people are dying because their governments are supporting the " good terrorists "
hopefully the world will wake up and start to realize what's going on , only the people who can change what's going on

Funny example, I have the same. All nazies in Germany were Germans, and it means that all Germans - nazis. Irish bombers from IRA ve killed many people in UK since 70s, it means that all Irish people are terrorists.

when has that ever stoppedthem

All nazis in Germany supported the endlösung? No they didn't, just some. Is that change anything about the opinion about nazism?

Indeed they will have more reasons for further attacks, but if they are back at home they not going to have the opportunity to do so.

All muslims in the Europe support suicide bombers and terrorists?

Perhaps not, but I'd bet they were the implementers.

When has that ever stopped them from wasting suicide bombers and fighters against civilians?

Really? Do you know how many terrorist attacks have been in Russia since 2000?

"Cui prodest". I dont think that muslims stand to gain from this.

All politicians in the West have no balls, we need a Putin whether you like him or not. They will not flee to Russia and take over there, Putin puts his indigenous people first as it should be!

I'm almost willing to place a bet on that but I don't really gamble, plus there have been Islamists caught before in Belgium plotting this exact kind of attack except directed at the EU.

You think this a solution? And there is no other way for terrorists to come to the Europe? That is exactly what they want, to have one more cause for further attacks.

i'll bet you any amount of money that muslims carried out this attack, and that they will be behind the next one, and the one after that

Do you think muslims are the main cause of this? Funny.

Just another "coincidence":

 

one explosion more happened, in metro

how many more of these until people accept that it is time to deport muslims from europe?

Heard just on the Dutch Television about it 11 people are died with this terrorist action. After the arrest in Brussels earlier this was something you could expect. RIP for all people who died in this war against terrorism.

Damn! I hope nobody will die...

Explosion at Zaventem airport in Brussels, airport being evacuated now. Reason unknown

Several dead and wounded following explosion at Brussels Airport, Belgian Federal Police spokesman says: NBC News

Belgian media is reporting the blasts happened by AmericanAir check-in counters in Zaventem airport.