Topic: {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting scam signature campaigns that encourage spam. (Read 1797 times)

Just stumbled this and it does need a bump from time to time probably best post coming from a good manager who knows how to pick the right participants in a campaign, bounty participants  should take time to adsorb what's on it, it will surely going to help you in your campaign as bounty participants

This thread brings me back to the days when you were still climbing the ranks. Look at how far you've come!

Cryptotalk participants aren't forced to meet any requirements, there is just a maximum payout of 10 posts per day(And it isn't compulsory to make), which they would pay for, and I do not think that is too much, I can comfortably make ten posts a day without the slightest hint of being called a spammer.

Some campaigns require 25-30 posts per week to get paid, but cryptotalk participant could make 10 post a week and still get paid, what this shows is, it's not the campaign that's solely to blame, users can decide to be spammers whether they are on cryptotalk or not, it just happens so many(spammers)are on that very campaign as the number(participants)is so high.

Yes, there are no restrictions to join the campaign, but yahoo with the effort of the community are breathing down the necks of the spammers, you can join in on the act by reporting a spam post when you see one.  

If someone forced to meet high number of posts every week then chances of a good poster slipping from their quality posting behaviour to meet such requirements but having 25 or 30 will not be a problem for a poster to reach every week but number of post doesn't alone set the quality of a campaign if they have no restrictions to join in their campaigns.

You have to admit that even some top members of the forum has joined campaigns in the past where they have to make a high number of posts but one thing I love about the Cryptotalk campaign is that it does not require you to meet a certain number of posts before you are paid, so if you are not a spammer, you can just make the amount of quality posts you can without having to spam the forum.

So my point is that If you are someone who has a healthy respect for this forum, then you would avoid the pull of greed and do the right thing at all times, I don't think a campaign could turn a good poster into a spammer unless that person makes a conscious decision to spam.

Yes,cryptotalk is still open for the new participants as far as I know but they may not last long since yahoo and other members were hunting the spammers and the list of banned participants keeps increasing everyday.

IMO,the crypotalk will not going to promote their forum here for very long time since already they got lot of topics,threads which will be convincing enough to run bounties for other projects in cryptotalk.

I totally agree that a step has been taken in the right direction with a reduction in the number of maximum posts, but there is still a big problem with the number of participants that was 531 5 days ago. I think this is something that should definitely change, because regardless of control this campaign is currently the largest source of spam.

What's wrong with campaigns like this is the desire to get as much visibility in as little time as possible. The question is how long the whole thing can take, but obviously, for now, there is enough money to continue such a massive campaign.

I think that issue has also been handled, as far as I know Yahoo has been in charge of the campaign for some weeks now and the changes are visible all and around the forum.

cryptotalk is a very attractive campaign pay wise and I think they would not have had this much issue and eyebrows raised if they had hired a good manager at the initial time, they had to be banned before they could understand that the forum has rules, and they rightly adjusted.

Considering the recent change in number of post eligible for payment daily, the campaigns is heading towards the right direction since a total of just 70 post weekly is the maximum that can be produced by each individual which isn't quite different from other campaign on the forum considering the amount Cryptotalk is paying for that amount.

I know of two campaign paying far less for 60 post so i guess the issue of post numbers has been resolved. The quality of the participants post is the next issue to resolve and that can only happen if a manager is been given control over who joins the campaign and posts been eligible for payment.

I absolutely agree that it all seems pretty annoying, a large number of posts and a very small percentage of quality posts really pollute the forum to some extent. What any user of this forum can do is report such posts to moderators, or directly to the campaign manager. All other decisions are in a higher instance, so if they think the current situation is OK, then there is no choice but to adapt.

In addition to everything else mentioned in the OP, I think that the long-term consequences should also be taken into account. YoBit is a very problematic exchange, and although indirectly, it is promoted in a very aggressive and powerful way. There will come a time when some will lose money as a result of promoting such forum/exchange, will anyone take responsibility for that?

Yup, but don't you find them pretty annoying too? We browse the forum for genuine conversations, only to see necroposts or the same thing over and over.

While these don't fall under spam, they get old pretty quickly.

UserU, this stems from the fact that this campaign has more than 500 participants which luckily are now only paid for 10 posts daily, so in theory, this could mean 5000 new posts every day or 35 000 on a weekly basis. Regardless of control many participants still generate spam in the eyes of many users of this forum.

It's actually a fine line between what can be classified as spam, or posting without reading previous posts which results in repetitive posting. I notice many of them do not pay any attention to anything, only number of posts is important.

It's been disturbing lately that whenever I come across a shitpost, 90% it comes from a Cryptotalk user.

Thankfully yahoo's making radical changes so hopefully we see less spam from this campaign.

Initially, the high ranked members criteria should have given them less spam compared to when they did allow lower ranked users and beside they have hired a well reputed manager with years of experience to tackle the quality of post of the campaign although one factor they refused to put into consideration was the minimum merit earned by users been accepted into the campaign this would had prevented dormant account from enrolling.

Best method to prevent or reduce spam would be to give the signature manager the ability to accept quality participants into the campaign that way spammers won't be given the opportunity to spam and get paid.

Yobit is actually out again with expected post of 20 max daily and they expect no spam, They think they can control spam even with their high rank member requirements?

They finally hired a good campaign manager to control the major spam. His job is to check what the users are doing and ban these that are abusing the system to f*ck the forum and earn while doing it.

His list of banned users: List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign

I was invited to join yobit's signature campaign program, but I was not eligible to participate. I see that they set the rule of maximum 20 post / day, if there are about 1,000 people participating in this campaign, the forum will have to suffer 20,000 spam messages every day. What is the measure for this?

I don't think the adminstrators or members of Bitcointalk has a problem with this, they aren't scared because in the past, similar platform have tried dethroning Bitcointalk but couldn't success. The problem they should be concerned with, is the level of spam they'll be tacking over the couple of few weeks this campaign will be active. I just went through the list of signature participants and I must say, I'm not impressed. Maybe in the coming few weeks more quality members will engage with the campaign without spamming the forum.

What make a signature campaign stand out apart from the obvious which is their payrate, is the level/number of quality participants participating in that campaign. The campaign already have a quality, well reputed manager, what's left now is quality of posts from participates.

The good thing though is that there is no minimum post each day or each week. Yobit already asked for suggestions before which suggests that they are interested in quality. That is the reason why it's being managed by a reputable manager now.

If you see someone who you think is spamming or bursting post, you can always report it to the manager and they be ban if proven. Check the list of already banned participants below.
List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign

Before start of this campaign you werent active for 10 months, and now suddenly you have urge to write here? You see this forum only as source of income, and what is even more funny, you are advertising forum that wants to be competition to bitcointalk.

The campaign now has a manager, I think there won't be much spammers in the near future. The maximum is 20 but there is no minimum, you get paid even for a single post. What incentives spam is not the maximum number of posts by day but the lack of a good campaign manager, if the maximum os low people could just use shills to post more.

What about Yobit, they are incentivising spamming behaviour with setting cap at 20 posts per day. If they are interested in quality, cap would be much lower, but instead they decided to do the opposite. They are the key.

So no wonder that majority of participants are spammers, just look at this list

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobitcryptotalk-signature-campaign-participants-5188149

They usually have a higher pay rate per post, especially if you compare it with Yobit rate. So, missing five posts or so won't give them that much difference. Which is why, a campaign like Yobit tends to increase the spamming from users because they need to get 140 posts a week to get the full payment (around 0.01 BTC or so, isn't it?).

Not saying that Yobit participants == spammers, just to highlight that a good manager is really needed to prevent them from going out of the line.

It is max post counted per day only, and participants must not fullfill exactly 20 posts per day to be paid. There are always two types of posters: bad and good. Good posters will do know when they must stop posting, when they don't see reasons to make posts. Personally, if I don't see interesting topics or interesting discussions, I will not make posts.

The key thing is good posters are able to handle their greediness to hunt for maximum money with max post number. There are some campaigns that have max weekly posts at 50 or 60, and I saw there are many participants don't fullfill max posts. This thing can happen with Yobit campaign too, especially from now on posts will be checked quality before being eligible for payments.

Exactly, I'm not discouraging anyone from joining any campaign of their choice, joining a campaign is a privilege and if you can handle that privilege without abusing it then you're free to go ahead joining any campaign of your chosen. The current yobit associated signature campaign now have a reputed manager in the person of @yahoo62278 which is a positive signs since spam will now be moderated by him.

I just used this thread as an opportunity to highlight some disadvantage you should definitely consider before joining any campaign, If you can handle posting high number of posts without spamming then you can go ahead.

Yobit is back to start witch hunt Joke aside, I think as long as it does not create spam, everyone should be able to carry the signature. But I think the dynamics of the forum will still not allow it.

But I have seen you OP applying for a fix rated bounty campaigns that pays BTC. In my own opinion being into a signature campaign doea not mean that it will make you a spammer and yes I agree with you that it has more risk than joining bounty campaign that only requires one to meet minimum requirements when posting in the forum for ads weekly to receive stakes.

However, it may seems that there are more users joining signature campaign that pays token than pays fix rated through btc. More spammers could be found altcoins,bounties altcoins section so this should be closely monitored by BM to put a stop or remove the user if a certain user spam.in the forum.

There are always required minimum posts per week, and accepted boards from campaigns. Because they pay their funds for campaigns, so they need to get some kind of effects, that in turn force them to require mininum posts per week and specific boards to get their expected effects. That is why gambling sites' campaigns ask for 5 (usually) post in Gambling per week to be paid. It is sure that applicants have to self-assess their ability and their available time to make posts to meed campaigns' requirements before applying. In addition, there are some paid-per-post campaign with very high maximum-post-count, that likely cause spamming. Like what occured with Yobit weeks ago. Personally, I don't join such campaign, and 10 to 15 posts per day look like acceptable figure. Good campaigns mostly reject to pay for burst-posts

I think being part of signature campaigns will not automatically make you a spammer or anything related above.  Yet, I do agree on the fact that you will have a higher risk of experiencing one of the things mentioned above.

In order to prevent such risks, I always apply the following:

1. Join campaigns that are same with your advocacy

I mostly join campaigns related to innovation to protect the environment (because I am a nature-lover myself and I think that we really need to make a stand on this issue).  By joining a campaign that you are interested into, you will have the drive to engage with meaningful discussions with other member.

2. Join campaigns with flexible requirements and not strict ones

Some campaigns will require you to have a minimum number of posts and you need to post discussing a certain topic.  By having this type of campaign, you will run out of ideas and you will soon have spams because you just want to meet the requirements.  Better join campaigns with low minimum number of posts and no limitation to the topic that you want to discuss.

That's fine by the system, infact I'm sure more users will welcome the idea of keeping your post simple & short as well as meaningful. You don't always have to write an eassy each time you intend replying to a thread unless when necessary. I don't have a problem with short reply but you should understand, off topic reply most time can be considered as spam especially when you're getting paid for that.

I second what erikalui says here.


@OP:

But ofcourse there is no absolute in anything. There is also middle ground as in sometimes you just have few words to say and that is different.

For eg. in this post of mine, i am not really contributing anything honestly to this thread but i am writing just to put an opinion, would that mean i am spamming?

well, i am not even a part of any SC at the moment xD and apparently, most of the people who have posted in this thread are a part of an SC.

So, i think, maybe the managers ought to impose more strict rules leading to less spam.

and yeah i am no saint, i have done my share of sh*tposting back in the day but we all learn along the way isn't that right!

I think it's fine in moderation. Sometimes you're on a roll. It's the people who knock out 20 posts in as many minutes that I find pretty incredible. There's no shortage of people watching out for piss takers and you're going to get shut down in no time at all. The real burst champs almost always read identically to each other too. It's rather eerie.

Amazing to know there is a manager applies time gaps between posts in order to count as countable posts. Burst posting is one of prohibited kinds of post in the forum. It is one of violations, and I am not sure, but if someone seriously violates it from time to time, it will be considered as spamming, and account might be nuked, in the worst case.

This is what izanagi narukami does in the campaigns he manages (30mins gap) and I believe it's really helpful in putting post bursting and spamming at bar. This is even better than saying maximum of certain posts count daily because someone could do that daily count within an hour and be done for the day.


It baffles me too as if those sections don't contribute to the development of this forum. This was why I hailed Darkstar in his decision to pick participants from the local board in his last selection for the Chipmixer campaign.

Time gap between posts is one of factor can maintain post quality. It's not always right, but it help to reduce spamming speed, and somehow might maintain post quality at a fixed level. When people don't hurry to spam (due to required time gap between posts), they might spend more time to brainstorm before posting.

The problem I see here is that campaign managers from these kinds of campaigns tolerate them to do so, if they let their participants to be paid on their low quality posts it let's them see that the campaign manager is ok with that. If they are somehow strict on monitoring their post counts and post quality then the participants themselves will be forced to avoid spamming and spend more time thinking what they will be posting next. With this thing happen it only will lead to the participants spamming the forum just to receive the regular pay.

Certainly, the Employer make such decisions i presume, but these has make some sections of this forum more populated than others, like, Bitcoin discussion section, Altcoin Discussion section and Gambling|Gambling Discussion section of this forum. I think, it might be the cause of Merit sources Meriting a particular section of this forum based on his/her interest on that section, (i.e)For example, If i post in Bitcoin Section never expect Merit from me in Altcoin Section, Gambling|Gambling Discussion section, Beginners section, Off-Topic Section among others, lets encourage ourselves(as Merit Sources) to always visit other sections. 

Indeed. It's totally down to the person actually paying. It would be an easy way to throw your money away if you're a gambling company whose posters only hang out in development and technical discussion.

I do find it strange how consistently they reject certain sections like off topic and politics and society, and it seems a shame more local boards aren't included, but I guess they know what works for them and what doesn't.

I don't think he's in charge of the choosing of boards were those interested in promoting the projects he's managing should posts. I say so because, if you look through the history of the campaigns he has managed you'll see some requirements in regrads to specific boards posts should be made in and boards or thread posts made in, will not count towards post counts. I think the projects themselves make the decision not campaign managers I might be wrong though.

And now they are gone again and back to sleep, I think those who had joined the yobit signature campaign must observe their account. At the time I had encountered so many names of users that I'd never regularly seen here in the forum and I think they are completely alt account.

Campaign Manager rules of requirements in posting are very important to participants to avoid or lessen spamming. 20 post per day is quite too much and probably make a cause of spam to the greedy alt users who want to gain profit.
One thing that I like in having rules of posting like Hhampuz, he let us post everywhere on this forum to have exposure so there's no reason you can spam in the mega thread. I hope all of them.

They are so many disadvantages for promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming and these disadvantages are felt by both the culprit and the forum.
But  users are so selfish they just want to gain rather than the welfare of the forum

That's why they all came in their numbers to join the yobit signature campaign that had no minimum merit requirements but what surprised me was how they all woke up simultaneously immediately after the yobit signature campaign was announced that's just to back up the claims that 50% of accounts on the forum are just alts. I'm very sure there was no email sent by Bitcointalk to its users informing them of the yobit campaign though yobit themselves did sent email but how did this accounts that were sleeping for months get the information if they're not alt accounts of active members of the forum?. That email sent by yobit couldn't have reached all of them. Maybe it's time theymos wipe all inactive accounts.

To those who voiced out their opinion during the days of Yobit.net, have done a great job in savaging the rapid spread of spam post between the participants on the forum. The sanctions|penalties are equally fair; for these spam Bees, who took to the street of spam to get paid.

Can now see the full picture of what Mr. BrainBose was saying on this thread. When the right time come for me to join the good wagon of campaign, i will definitely be more careful as what happen to Yobit.Net participant never happen to me likewise.

It is not the job of the campaigns to make sure that the members promoting them don't get banned. It is the members of this forum who need to pay attention what they do with their accounts and what kind of posting habit they will have. The signature campaigns together will the campaign managers are responsible to hire those they think are suitable for the task, everything that happens after that is out of their control.

Don't lose faith for this forum. We want the same thing, i.e., to clean this forum from spammers/bots/zombies. The administrator has taken actions for this problem, here:


Also, these old, high-ranked accounts, are pretty much useless. Good (BTC) campaign managers always do due diligence before accepting someone to their signature campaigns.

Kudos for the kicked-up arse . You have just encourage me to intensify effort on my post. This will gear me to do more helpful and constructive post for the betterment of others who are here to learn. Have just added you to my watch-list of Legendary Pioneers to follow, and equally learn from.

The signature ban came at the right time before these Zombies spread their virus all-over the forum. Commend the administrators for the action taken against spamming Bees with questionable signature campaign.

Have a kick up the arse from me.

A very big thank you for the enlightenment my truly Legendary Member.

Sometime i do regret why was i late to this forum, now that things are very difficult for newcomers. Ranking up is more difficult compare to these days where the forum was young. Although this has be the reason why many of us with lower rank are doing great even with the current system implementation of the merit.

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Did hope for someday i will rank up like others on this forum, permit me to always read-up your post here on forum, to get more flavor from your post.

Nope.

The Yobit campaign has just been banned and that was really the only option for these piece of shit accounts.

Almost all of the other ones are managed sensibly and one word posters with zero merit won't stand a chance of getting into any of them. It won't matter if they're legendary. They're still demonstrably crap.

There used to be semi automated campaigns like the Bitmixer.io one which didn't review posts or posters, you just signed up and started. That was shut down and forced to restart with a proper manager.

I think the merit requirements to rank up are too high but they have made a big difference and if you've earned a senior rank with merit you will be welcome in the best campaigns.

Am very sorry to say this: very handful of your type are worth emulating on the forum, i wonder how the system was then, that make many of these accounts attained these status: like Legendary, Hero, Sr. Member and Full Member. So many of these accounts are alts and the worst part is, they are one liner posters. Will they be pay with such post? If yes, Yobit has done something terrible. Now i see the reason why they are like that: Original Zombies.

They're the original zombies. Back in the day you could rank up to senior and beyond just by posting 'hi' a few times a month for a few months. When something like that campaign emerged so did all of those dormant accounts.

Some people created hundreds of them.

You should demonstrate some self awareness and not join. There's absolutely no way I could face being in campaign like that. First off I think gambling is worthless and evil and I'd rather it buggered off forever, but mainly attempting to sound interested in it on here would be like pulling teeth. It would take me three hours of wracking my brain to come up with one sentence and then I'd have a stroke.

Let's assume that Y*bit is not a scam exchange, the sigcamp itself is so strange. Twenty posts per day are just impossible for manual work that involves thinking. Just saying... By the way, I wonder how long it will last before these zombie accounts go back to sleep again.

For newbies: It's just not worth to become one of the zombies. Once you get infected, it almost incurable.

 Participating in signature campaigns demands a lot of free time to make a good job.
companies want their ads  to be shown as much as possible in the forum. The problem is that is encourages spam, as users are forced to post the most they can...

1. SC's aka signature campaigns make you feel greedy but if you just want to earn some money by doing something you always do, you can't turn into a spammer. Spammers spam even forums where they don't earn to post.

2. Merit is a personal choice of members and is not restricted to just high rank members. If any member finds your post worthy, they will merit it irrespective of the sig you carry. Not all members ignore users of a sig campaign.

3. If you are a spammer, you would be blacklisted even if you aren't a part of any campaign.

4. Scammers have no reputation while people don't give so much importance to spammers. If you are honest and don't promote a scam campaign, nothing can harm your reputation.

5. That's again dependent on if you spam and has nothing to do with any particular campaign.

6. This point doesn't even make sense 

Perhaps that works the other way around. Some campaign doesn't care if they pay reputable and influential accounts as it will be nothing from 100 spam accounts. Imagine your signature will be expose in all boards of forum thus bad publicity is still publicity anyway.

While some don't care what will be the impression to them and either feels like they weren't spammer since they post with a 5 minute interval.🤦

It is shameful for you to contribute to ads of a service considered scam or by a lot of dark activities. Would you be happy to contribute to scamming others? I do not think so.

I think that the main purpose of the signature campaigns is to stop at the post and thus increase the desire to know what is participating in the signature, especially that such people do not publish anything unknown in their signature.

Based on above: my advince to campaign managers: it would be better to pay a $1000 to 10 influential account instead of paying that amount to 100 spammy accounts.

[6]: Reduces potential improvements on crypto knowledge: I meant by brainless spamming the forum, spammers will have less (or without) exposures to comprehensive boards, child boards, topics, posts, that in turn will result in decreasing chances to be exposed with knowledgeable things in the forum. Then, maybe spammers will spend years to spam in the forum without any improvements on their knowledge about crypto things.

When ever I write a post I always try to touch every angle. I have taken care of that in my previous thread titled; Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns. if you know you can't make up to the required post count or the specific board the campaign manager requires post counts from, you're not familiar with the board there's no need applying for that campaign because majority of the time you might just end up spamming your way to your post goal. That's why majority of well known quality campaign pays per post but they do have a post limit weekly to avoid spamming.

Thats a rather difficult topic because signature campaigns in general, especially those which pay per posting, want you to spam the forums. Signatures are their advertisment, the more its seen the better a token/tool/project/... gets recognized.

If you can get paid for eg 60 posts/week you will try to write them forcing you to post at topics you cant contribute well or topics you arent familiar with. Some campaigns eg. want you to write postings in the gambling section, if you arent into gambling at all how could you post quality content in this subforum at all?

Very good points, I hope the participants in spammy campaigns will read your post (but I doubt it).

The biggest problem of such signature campaigns is that people are forced to make a high number of posts per week / per day to get the amounts in BTC compared to campaigns where the posts per week are limited to 40 - 60 posts per week. And whenever someone is forced to make comments that he won't make normally, the outcome is not useful at all. If they are forced to make their number of posts per day they'll make replies about things they are possibly not experienced in. The post quality will go down drastically and the posts won't help anyone, just adding another post to the topic. Those replies are not only not helpful, they are ruining the discussion and causing spam-megathreads.
Same like if someone tries to participate in a gambling signature campaign and as requirement they need to make posts in Gambling but they normally don't comment there. The replies won't be very useful.

I don't want to generalize everyone in the YoBit signature campaign as a spammer, there are also a few good contributors and even the best posters on the forum can make more than 100 posts per week without producing useless spam as a result. But the overall impression is like CryptopreneurBrainboss explained very well in his OP, it won't work for most members because they try to earn as much as possible.

In addition, such campaigns tend to ruin the posting history. A good posting history is always mixed with longer or shorter posts. No need to write always essays if you can say your content only in a few words. But for my experience the worst posters are those where the post lenght is always the same (a few lines) and that's a pattern that most spam posters have in common.

I presume this is largely inspired by Yobit's resurrection. Thing is though apart from a few exceptions none of its participants would stand a hope in hell of getting into any other campaign. They've managed to prove that within a couple of days.

They're going to hang themselves. I'm sure you can take it on without being hopeless but you'll need to be conscious of a lot of people watching you closely.

Truth be told, campaigns that encourage spamming and do not emphasis quality of posts usually end up costing the participant.
I have seen certain members here join such campaigns and have never earned even a single merit for months just because the campaign Managers of such campaigns don't care about the post quality of participants. They Just encourage shit posting and one liners.

I think a lot of people don't realize what signature campaigns actually are, they are called "signature campaigns" to mask their real purpose. The point is to advertise their service, the advertisers give these insane incentives because they don't care about if their people get banned, all they want is their site spammed everywhere. And why do they advertise on BitcoinTalk? Because people here will post like crazy for cents on the dollar, it's super worth it to them. They get super cheap advertising on the biggest bitcoin forum there is. It's important to remember that we set the standard we are held at, you set your own worth. If you really think your content is worth a few cents on the dollar, then so be it. But I think that most people are better than that, take the initiative of your own worth and display whatever the hell you want in your signature. Don't let a greedy corporation own it. I think signature space should be your own, hell put a thing for donations in it, at least that way you can get acknowledged for the content you make. Stop advertising gambling sites most of all, people lose their livelihood over that kind of stuff, don't try to rationalize it. Advertising "investing" is the same thing, people don't understand what they are doing and they think it's fine because the person wearing the signature is reputable. I usually don't do long rants like this but I feel like I needed to say something about this whole situation.

There is high chances for these signature campaign to actually ruin a good poster into a spamming type, this has been quite unfortunate when you see a very high rank member posting some one liner just to get paid from the campaign, this also imply to lower rank members. Basically, many account on the forum, has just be resurrected from a long inactive period just to participant on some ongoing signature campaigns. Participating on these campaigns doesn't make it a crime but lets put forth our credibility rather than ruining our reputation on the forum.  

On this, i'm not vividly sure becasue they all have Merit cycle which rotate like the wheel of a car. They go on and on to merit themselves just becasue they are wearing the same signature campaign. Some will further trade their Merit with their alts to get the chances to join the campaign, just saw a Legendary account merited some Newbies and high rank members with 10 Merits, which purpose are yet to be know. They will always get Merited no matter what.

Direct, after these campaigns have ended, maybe some managers on the forum will have the list of these campaigners but some won't border about them becasue they benefited in one way or the other.

If these signature campaigns never succeed, then their reputation will be destroy without a second thought from reputable members on the forum.

Yes, only if they stand at the edge and bite, there's surely a possibility of account ban, but till then let cross our fingers across and watch this river flowing downward, but for upwards BAN hammer will be the last resort.
 
Thanks for your concern.  

As usual, I seize the opportunities (when I see one) to pass my message across and so far I have gotten positive feedbacks from reputed and regular users contributing to my thread, translations of those thread and highlighting of these threads through merits.
Having written on Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns. and Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign and as a result of the recent talks about the yobit signature campaign, I thought it'll be idea to combine all the possible disadvantagea of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming, maybe with this thread, we can save few members through reconsidering their decision of joining those campaigns after reading these disadvantages.
Below are some disadvantage;

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[1]: Turns you into a spammer: Irrespective of what your posting habit were before you engage in a signature campaign that requires very high number of post count to get a decent payout, it increase your chances of turning into a spammer. 8 out of every 10 participants in these type of campaign are usually spammers and as the saying goes, "you turn into those you associate yourself with". As a result of trying to earn as much as your counterparts (spammers) are earning you turn into one of them, thereby spamming the forum just to earn as much as them.

[2]: Reduces your chances of getting merited: If one of your goals on forum is to receive enough merits from your quality posts to make you eligible to rank up then you have to stay far away from these signature that encourages spamming, as majority of reputed forum members, merit sources and other meriters sees participants of those campaign as spammers even though you're not a spammer yourself. some members even go further as putting those users wearing that particular signature on ignore which can ruin your chances of receiving merits from that users as they can't view (read) your post. As a result of not encouraging spammers some users don't merit users spamming the forum with those signatures. The best advice will be to stay away from those campaign and concentrate on contribution positively through your post to the forum as you wait for more quality campaigns to promote.

[3]: Gets you blacklisted by most reputed managers: Just like the ignore list created by most reputed users on the forum, some campaign managers have what they called "signature ban list"  aka blacklist they consult to avoid accepting spammers into their current or future campaigns they'll be managing. The most popular for now is the DarkList. Note most managers don't have this list publicize on the forum but they do have some members they have recognized as spammers due to one reason or the other and won't accept them into the campaign they're associate with. One of those reasons could be because of your previous campaign (which encourages spamming).

[4]: Ruin your reputation on forum: This disadvantage affects users who're interested in building a reputation for themselves on forum or already have a reputation. Joining a signature campaign can be seen as a form of endorsing that campaign and most time a user is viewed from the type of campaign he/she associate themselves with. which means, associating yourself with a spam promoting campaign will portary you as a spammer or a user with less interest of the forum at hand, as a result ruin your reputation on the forum.

[5]: Increase the possibility of getting banned: Promoting a signature campaign that encourages spamming which leads to spamming the forum most time, is an easy tickets to getting banned although plagiarism is the number one ticket. Spammers aren't welcome in the forum as the forum itself is trying her best in eliminating spam by implementing different system to combat spamming, from providing an option to report spammers to moderators to implementing the merit system and more features to come in future like the total removal of signature campaign from the forum. The forum have zero tolerance to spammers and repeated spamming as a result of meeting the required weekly/daily Post  could result in getting banned.

[6]: Reduces potential improvements on crypto knowledge: I believe what OP is trying to say is, joining a signature campaign that encourages spamming which might turn you into a spammer will decrease your chances of learning somethings new or adding to your existing knowledge of cryptocurrency from the forum as your number one priority will now be, how to spam to earn instead of concentrating on learning from the forum.
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In as much as I write about signature campaign and I'm wearing one that doesn't mean I see forum as a place for only signature campaign or advertisment (you shouldn't too) but these privilege are highly been abuse resulting to spam and a good way to combat this, is but educating users that's what I see my threads as.

The disadvantage of wearing a signature that promotes spamming isn't limited to 5 points, I can go on and on but as usual to encourage interactive contributions from other users I leave room for more contributions to this thread.