Topic: Fantasy crypto portfolio (Read 1694 times)

I speculate a strong holding in BTC will have outperformed having more alts during this long period of decline.

Actually thanks for the reminder on this thread. I forgot about it.

I will update the portfolio soon. I'm sure we will be down but will it have outperformed the market (down less)? We'll find out soon.

I agreed with what you said about Litecoin cause the coin is already died in my own eyes but ripple is still okay though the coin don't usually gain much pump like ETH and NEO but it still a safer coin.

Here are a few coins that should grow this month: MTC, STQ, HBZ, AMN, NPXS

This is also enough to learn a lot of new for yourself

Your wallet is very diverse, and i like it, but in my opinion buying such quantity of ripples is risky. You should change ripples and litecoin to something safier like ethereum or neo.

Smooth, can we have the folio updated.
Curious to see how it performed vs the overall market.

Here is my fantasy portofolio. I imagine invest $100k on these :
1. Ethereum classic 20% because of the hard fork will come in march
2. Stratis 20% because its the altcoin fo the real business and using C
3. Lisk 10% because it is for java script DAPP
4. QUANTUM1NET 10% because it will make its own miner and blockcahin.
5. Eon from exscudo i am interesting woth the concwpt and marketing. 10%
6. Crypterium for cashing out my crypto asset without plastic card. 10%
7. Aurora token from idex because i like to get more coin for staking it and idex is decentralised exchanger which more safe the centralised exchanger. 10%
8. Savedroid for making a plan for holyday and my daughter school saving crypto on savedroid. 10%


Thats my fantasy and let see what happen.

Yes monthly rebalancing and I will update for February soon.

Are you still paper trading?

Anybody want to speculate as to what the top earners this month will be? I've allocated some of my BTC to BCH but don't know what else to allocate towards, perhaps fractions of all of them?

Nice and awesome fantasy portfolio. If i have just 1/3 of this i believe am made for life. LOL.

That is interesting like Paper Trading, to pick coins which may be going to moon and then get real high, so you can track your decision making

New portfolio allocations (as noted above, the portfolio is rebalanced monthly)

Portfolio value 577609 USD (+401650 USD m/m, +478609 USD since inception)
ROI: +228% m/m, +483% since inception

BTC (some people like to use that as a benchmark): +47% m/m, +126% since inception

BTC 56
BCH 18
XRP 10
LSK 7
XEM 3
DASH 2
ETH 2
LTC 1
STEEM 1

Reference USD prices:

BTC 16255.60
BCH 2788.82
XRP 3.38
LSK 34.75
XEM 1.78
DASH 1291.2
ETH 1135.33
LTC 285.12
STEEM 6.50

He is not a financial advisor;)
Also most cheap coins dont fit the requirements he set himself.

XLM in the list is still cheap though

I started my crypto journey in 2017 only and most of the coins above has become already somewhat expensive, can you suggest some new and cheap coins for longterm, I have a little investment amount of 1000USD, kindly suggest how to allocate , thanks

New portfolio allocations (as noted above, the portfolio is rebalanced monthly)

Portfolio value 175959 USD (+76959, +77%)

BTC +54%. Some people like to use that as a benchmark.

DASH 29
BCH 18
LSK 14
BTC 14
STR 11 (aka XLM)
LTC 7
XRP 4
ETC 1
ETH 1
ZEC 1
STRAT 0
STEEM 0
OMG 0
XMR 0
XEM 0

Reference USD prices:

DASH 771
BCH 1420
LSK 7.85
BTC 11030
STR 0.0934 (aka XLM)
LTC 99.46
XRP 0.252
ETC 30.11
ETH 462
ZEC 326
STRAT 6.05
STEEM 1.28
OMG 9.22
XMR 204
XEM 0.258

Current portfolio value 113749 USD (+15%)

Every coin is up except BTC

Best:

BCH: +56%
ETC: +50%
DASH: +27%
STR: +27%

Worst:

BTC: -6%
STEEM: +3%
XRP: +5%
STRAT: +6%

Note: STR = XLM

Are there other threads from users who actually posted how much total they invested in real money and how they are doing and updating it?

I dont like XRP and i dont understand why you choose XRP. But i will interesting if you tell me the target price of XRP. Can you share me ?

Interesting. Someone should setup a website to create fantasy profiles to let people not in crypto learn and understand, while seeing that they could make some money too.

Coins that actually will be traded long after a year or two should be put into a portfolio, those coins aren't worth the time.

@Smooth what market data does your code analyze and also what is going to be the primary reason for selling/trading the assets in this portfolio? I understand the liquidity and trading reason for choosing these coins but do not understand what will be the primary reason for selling and trading e.g. selling because there is a 15% loss over the course of 2 days

Only historical reasons. I use some custom code to analyze market data that doesn't support bittrex yet. I will likely add support for bittrex and the assets that trade there in coming months.

Interesting portfolio. I used to hold 100% Ripple before it moon back in march April. People thought I was crazy. Ripple has a potential to disrupt the trillion dollar banking system.

Interesting thread
Watching and curious to see what will happen

Fairly safe set of assets for investing in

I'm also curious why Bittrex wasn't chosen as its volume is now much larger than polo's

It seems Poloniex is still considered the benchmark for quite a lot of traditional traders

I  would  add  walton chain,  Modum, SONM  to the  game

Supercomputer   to help power in videogames industry?   To da moon?   I  think so.

I invest 50% in bitcoin and 30% in altcoin and 20% in ICO. I divide the capital to reduce the risk for my investment. I often analyze the time to buy altcoin. With ICO, I often monitor the projects I plan to invest before investing in that project.

Nice thread i will follow and give some though

If i have 10000$ i will devide my investment to these coin.

1. Bitcoin 30%
2. Ethereum 10%
3. Boscoin 10%
4. Monero 10%
5. Deep union 10%
6. Vertcoin 10%


And for erc 20 token i will put my money on to

7. Omisego 10%
8. Any new ico with so many research and flip it.

No, that's why it is called a fantasy portfolio.

I do own some of them but my actual holdings are not allocated according to this portfolio. This thread is paper trading

Do you still believe in XRP as well as think that it will catch up?
Do you have 100k USD invested in all of them that you have shown?
Can you suggest one single coin out of the list that's presented in your portfolio for us to follow?
I wish to hear your suggestions on XRP especially because I am still holding it, and possibilities of it reaching back to those high prices where I bought them at.

It's a very interesting idea, however in case your coins of choice succeed, I would personally feel very disappointed that I decided to invest only in "fantasy". I mean, it's like someone would say when bitcoin was few dollars that he decides only to track it's price, without buying. I mean, maybe not exactly like this, because bitcoin's price has raised in years, however with some of the ICOs and new altcoins, their price can change 10 or more times even within a month. Won't you feel that you have picked good coins but missed an opportunity?

Smooth's crypto hedge fund.
XRP and STR 

It's not random.

I have so many of those that just seeing this list is making my heart heavy with regret. Of these, I'd already got Litecoin for very close to 10% of current USD  and BCH for free, so the ones jerking my tears are Stratis (I got at 5.90) and Steem (1.6). These are all such great value buys, even though they're fictitious.

Let me guess, you're waiting for correction time with Bitcoin? Then again, it's also in your portfolio so is this a hedging strategy or just a random 10 of Top 20 coins? Hard to go wrong here in my opinion.

You are very trusting with XRP. Will it be a development? There are very strong opponents on the market.

Wow why you keep much XRP. I think they have so many coin and marketcap so high.XRP hardly to growth more.

As I noted above all coins have been quite correlated with each other meaning it doesn't make as much difference as you might think which coins you hold. The more important decision is how much to hold in cryptocurrency assets as a whole. At this time the holistic factors going into the portfolio construction don't favor ETH (in that the expectation, which could turn out to be right or wrong, is that if ETH were to move up strongly, other coins would too).

XRP is a bit of an outlier. Unlike most of the others which are at least somewhat grass roots projects that derive, vaguely from Satoshi's tradition of working to build an alternative to traditional finance (though some with ICO, etc. fundraising and a formalize development organization, some not), XRP is issued by a company that holds a large portion of its supply and that company is backed by serious venture capital and has experience professional management. Its strategy and target market, at least short term, is making partnerships and deals with existing banks and similar regulated businesses. In short, it is a completely different animal from most other coins when it comes to economics. Diversification within that category might make sense if there were other candidates, but there mostly aren't. (Stellar Lumens is arguably in a similar strategic position and indeed we have 10 STR in the portfolio, so we might say that "potentially-disruptive cryptocurrencies" make up 46% and "bank coins" make up 54% of which 81% is XRP and 19% is STR.)

@guystyles ETC is only included at 1% which might as well be rounding error. I don't think it is worth paying much attention to at this point, but maybe in the future the allocation will move higher. We'll see.

Watching.

Thanks for sharing. I found your picks intriguing.
Please, would you elaborate on your choice of ETC?

I'm just curious why you dont hold some ETH based on its large market cap and liquidity. Also, is that too risk for 44% XRP?

Thanks!

44% of your portfolio contains XRP, definitely watching it. As, I've XRP in my portfolio as well, but little percentage, thinking about to accumulate more now.

To be clear this is neither an ICO portfolio nor a non-ICO portfolio. Some of the coins in the screening universe are ICO such as ETH/ETC and STRAT (I think) and probably some others.

The primary criteria here are high market cap and liquidity. This is needed to be able to adjust the holdings periodically without it being impractical/expensive to actually make those trades.

ZEC and DASH (both considered privacy coins) are included, though currently low weight. XMR is included in the universe but currently has zero weight.

Bookmarked ! Definitively want to follow this portfolio.

A portfolio consisting of new popular ico coins would be great idea. I suggest you to add privacy coins, I think they are very risk free coins, only way is up for long term.

Interesting choice to use Poloniex only, that site is not popular anymore. Bittrex is ahead of Poloniex now.
For altcoin choices, pretty safe coins to invest. I'm wondering the result as well.

Cool idea. Following

Monero is considered as part of the universe, but happens to have 0 allocation right now. Stellar Lumens is included with 10% allocation. My Poloniex-based workflow uses the old STR symbol.

IOTA and WAVES are not for technical reasons because my analysis process currently requires Poloniex listing, but that requirement may be removed later.


There is a relatively high correlation between most coins which means diversification between coins is of relatively little importance. Of course there is always some value in it, and generally speaking diversification and balance are important. I definitely favor diversification between crytpo assets and non-crypto assets, where the correlations are lower. In particular, even if you are the biggest crypto bull ever, you should still have some non-crypto investments for balance IMO.

Woah this is very good job. I wanna know what results it will produce. I would love to suggest you to add Monero, Waves, IOTA and Stellar Lumens to this list. I love these 3 coins.

We need to respect and respect the portfolio of an experienced user like you.

in my opinion not very balanced, due to the fact that you invest ~44% in XRP.
Why do not you diversify more?

will be following along, too bad you dont have a blog!

Very interesting portfolio setup. Will definitely be following along. What metrics did you use for allocating the different percentages, for example why 44% or your portfolio in ripple?

I have been trying to set up 3 - 5 year investment time frame and can't decide what the portfolio would look like. Thanks for thread

I'm currently investing zero actual funds according to this allocation, but I'm going to track its performance here for a while. I will probably update the allocation targets monthly. The goal is to maximize performance and minimize risk when measured in USD terms.

The intent is to limit the universe to reasonably liquid coins (approximately top 20 by market cap) which can handle entry and exit of significant size positions. (For technical reasons it is currently limited to coins trading on Poloniex, though that restriction may be removed.)

If you find it interesting or want to follow along on paper or with real funds (this not a recommendation; do your own research and invest at your own risk), then welcome to the thread.

XRP 44
BCH 15
BTC 12
STR 10
LTC 7
STRAT 4
STEEM 3
ZEC 2
ETC 1
DASH 1

Assumed initial value 99 000 USD.

Reference USD values:

XRP 0.20
BCH 607.3569379
BTC 7174
STR 0.02754816
LTC 54.716098
STRAT 3.11882476
STEEM 0.89875872
ZEC 226.19987874
ETC 11.57474682
DASH 270.10102826

Self-moderation will be only used to keep the thread on-topic (already a forum rule) more actively than forum mods have time to do.