Topic: Father of Blockchain (Read 303 times)

'Dumb ignorant'? Certainly not!
Guess it's more of generational thing... Yapstones is just a tiny bit of - odd - random info I picked up when reading the Riply's Believe it or not clips in the Sunday comics when I was a kid back in the 60's...

Nice little article about the stones being 'the original bitcoin' https://www.sciencealert.com/the-original-bitcoin-still-exists-as-giant-stone-money-on-a-tiny-pacific-island. In this case the blockchain is the communal knowledge of each stones ownership history.

Dr. Chaum is no doubt the pioneer of blockchain technology since he proposed a blockchain-like protocol in his 1982 dissertation "Computer Systems Established, Maintained.  It is a blockchain-like but not literally a blockchain protocol.  Dr. Chaum is indeed the inventor of digital cash, the father of online anonymity, and the godfather of cryptocurrency.[1]  But recognizing him as the father of blockchain is somehow debatable.  As far as Blockchain history is concerned,  It was in 1991, when Stuart Haber and W Scott Stornetta described the cryptographically secured chain of blocks for the first time  [2].

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum
[2] https://www.icaew.com/technical/technology/blockchain-and-cryptoassets/blockchain-articles/what-is-blockchain/history

Blockchain in totally different from what he proposed. Online banking is what I can see to have in common in his concept. We can use government issue currency and convert them to digital currency as a trading method.
As for cryptocurrency which you can use to do the same thing but better.
I would not call him the father of Blockchain, as he was not the one who created it.
Satoshi is the man, my G. If someone deserved to be called as the father of crypto, then it has to be him.

Call me dumb ignorant, but no! In fact this part of science is really far from my circle of interests. But it is always good to learn something new, even about Micronesian tribes on bitcoin forum

They are from the island nation of Yap. Hard to believe you've never heard of them before... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones

interesting, do you have any link to the source/document/scientific paper which describes it? Were rocks really used for trading?
Do you know which region this photo comes from?

The earliest known real world application of proof of work algorithms, in financial and economic settings, date back a little further than 1980:



Image link:  https://i.imgur.com/3rA5lQ9.jpg

People of past eras would carve rocks into the shape of coins, in a proof of work format, to facilitate trade.

This is the earliest known version of bitcoin. Today, large quantities of electricity are used to conduct proof of work, instead of the physical labor needed to batter rocks into coins. But the basic principles and fundamentals remain the same.

The true father of crypto could be a man who lived thousands of years ago who literally mined his coins using a hammer and chisel. (Have you ever wondered where the term crypto mining came from?) Physical labor was the first proof of work algorithm. Even if today its considered high tech and a dot com internet technology. In years past, it meant something else entirely.

In as much as everyone has his or her own opinion, there are some limits to things. I am not arguing or doubting you in anyway, because I believe you must have done research in one way or the other to have arrived to conclusions with the above statement made so far but I want to as well inform or better still remind of of the fact that there are some people onboard this platform who would find this post of yours offensive and not welcoming. In other to be on the right track with factual evidence I would have suggested you show or upload the source of this your findings. This thing is what researchers do to back their findings. It would help along way to cushion some reactions that might likely come to play as a result of your update. It will be nice next time you furnish us with evidence such as Link so we could read more about any such post in the nearest future.

Maybe this is what you're saying dude they had a conference and then he went to jail and called him " The GodFather of Crypto"

But in that article, I didn't notice that he mentioned any crypto name, even Bitcoin, I didn't read that he mentioned it. It's like a proposal at the time when cryptocurrency was first discussed if I'm not mistaken.

I'm pretty sure that he's got the idea elsewhere but credits to what he has done. He can be recognized in anything that the people will give him and it's for the community to give that credential whether it's the father of blockchain or just plainly one of the big contributor in the aspect of technology.

AFAIK, he's still got a project today and it's in crypto.

I just can't find it anymore but I've seen it before and it's like there's an upgrade that his team has done to it. Or I'm not sure if he's still that active on that project or he has just given the go signal to use his name.

respect anyone who introduced blockchain and that I think it is also worth respecting if he is known as the father of blockchain but you don't include a reference link about him so it's hard to make us respect that what we know is the satoshi behind it all

The internet didn't exist in the form we know today but in a way it did exist from the 60s. "Paul Baran proposed a distributed network based on data in message blocks in the early 1960s".
It was basically a smaller "network" between computers that could communicate with each other. It is like Bitcoin, there were other works done prior to Bitcoin but none of them could come to success. There were also no successful "blockchain" in any of them that solves the problems that Bitcoin did.

I am a researcher on decentralised digital currency over 30 years. There was no concept of Decentralised Electronic  currency, Proof of Work or Blockchain at all before 2007.

I was conducting exclusive research on Decentralized Electronic Currency since 1988. Eearly 1993, I designed an electronic Euro Bond but I was not able to lunch it. In 1994 I created a single currency project for South Asian Economic Zone but my project was hijacked from me by EU Financial Intelevent Unit.  Later, the EU successfully launched the European Single  currency Euro. Then I moved on to another project in African Continent call Rica. It was difficult because African central banking system.

Finally, in 2005 I wrote the Electronic Digital  Currency Protocol, which actually was my thesis. In january 2006, I created Bitgold project. Later, in October 2006 I transformed it into  Bitcoin Project. I invented Blockchain in March 2007 and wrote the Bitcoin White Paper and Blockchain Transaction Paper on 5 April 2007.

In May 2007, I was looking on the Internet if any one doing any project on Digital Currency. After a good search, I found Adam Back Hash Cash, which is nothing to do with Digital Currency. Then I found Wei Dai's B-Money which was not very much clear. Then I found Nick Szabo's Bit-Gold, which didn't make any sense. There after I found David Chaum's Digi Cash but it was not about Digital Money but it was just a form of Gold Certificate.

Well, there was no concept of Blockchain Technology any where before 2007. And you all think, Satoshi Nakamoto Created Bitcoin Bitcoin and Blockchain but literally, Satoshi Nakamoto is one of my Japanese pseudonym. I used it just to lunched the Bitcoin project.

Well David Chaum is a great man who tried to trade gold certificate as Digi Cash but he has to go to prison. It was his failure to develop something better. I have no problem if some one proposes to respect Dr Chaum. Indeed, when I read that he has to go prison for the Gold Certificate the Digi Cash, so it really inspired me to publish the Bitcoin in my JAPANESE pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, also there was other reason for it.

Satoshi could've taken the base from the past development. Somehow he is one to succeed with the technology. Going through the history it is possible to see a big list of data behind the term blockchain and cryptocurrency. If they've succeeded developing a product out of the blockchain now we could've discussed about those people. We're in a world where the success is talked and the failure is forgotten.

Satoshi created blockchain and the first successful digital money.

There has been digital money in the past, but they all failed. Satoshi Nakamoto makes it in a way it would not be centralized like those of the past that failed, he made it to be decentralized.

He is not talking more than digicash and all other old forms of money that are digital but failed until Satoshi created bitcoin.

That's all I know about blogchain Satoshi is the first person who created or invented Bitcoin.Because many people have tried to create Bitcoin but failed. First created Bitcoin Satoshi That's why Satoshi is called the father of Bitcoin. But till today Satoshi Bitcoin is setting all levels in every way.

With due respect to Satoshi for creating bitcoin, i felt fascinated with the fact that Chaum actually gave the basic  concept of blockchain back in 1980s, when there was no internet and for such wonderful work in those pre internet era time we must be appreciate this person.

I believe Satoshi too would have found this man an inspiration and who knows he might would have referred his works to create bitcoin.

This post is to appreciate the contribution of Dr. Chaum.

OP, When creating this type of thread, you should put a reference link to help members get more information about your topic if they want to.
  While I was learning about Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency in 2010, I learnt that eCash was the first developed crypto and it was developed by DigiCash of David Chaum in 1990. Chaum is a cryptographer who published his paper that he titled Blind Signatures for Untraceable Payments in  1983. That first crypto did not reach the public market so it was not know by anybody not until when Bitcoin was introduced to the public market. The first success in crypto came from Bitcoin and the developer Satoshi.
   There is a link here to read about David Chaum and his crypto concept.

What do you mean by he built Bitcoin concept? There is no way you try to search about Crypto-currency and you won't at least find a link to him, so I think he is well documented in history, but I definitely don't think he had any idea about Bitcoin, and why is the concept of Crypto-currency always tied to Bitcoin. Yes Bitcoin is the head on the crypto leaders board but all the distractions isn't actually necessary for crypto-currency.

There is no argument to who is the founder or the instigator of the concept Bitcoin, we all know who did at least those that read about it. So a topic trying to share the work of his knowledge with another is irritating.

Leave stories for another day, we have many people on list eho has in one way or the other contributed to the development of bitcoin or had impact of oast history on building such technology before time but what we consider is the successful one, now how do you identify which was successful? those who have results to show forth backing up their research and invesntions of which Satoshi Nakamoto is known for life whenever we are talking about who created bitcoin, also if you consider the cypherpunk Hal Finney of blessed memories, he has done alot in the world of cryptography and the likes to an extent that many mistook him for Satoshi but history always had it that Satoshi invented bitcoin as well.

Brings up an interesting question. Leonardo Da Vinci came up with the concept of the helicopter centuries before technology was able to build one.
Was he the father of the helicopter or just someone who was ahead of his time.
Satoshi created BTC, but the concept of digital money using different words and concepts was around for a long time before that. Is there a definitive 1st mention of digital money somewhere?

-Dave

Please add the source for a better understanding. I know a couple of people or groups of people have tried to create digital cryptocurrency but not succeed. I might be wrong but that's what I know. Satoshi is the first person who succeeded to create digital currency through Blockchain technology which is called Blockchain.

Pioneered the concept of blockchain technology you mean.
There are lots of history leading up to the creation of Bitcoin by Satoshi and that is definitely not disregarded when discussing cryptic financial technology, this however does not mean David Chaum built Bitcoin; Satoshi did.

It is said that science precedes products by several decades While we are today talking about the Blockchain revolution, let's talk about the man who built the concept of digital currency. David Chaum, as we know him was a professor who created concept of vault system in 1979 during his doctorate.

Infact he held the first annual crypto and cryptology conference, called 'CRYPTO' back in 1980.

He introduced the concept  digital cash on basis of blind signature and group signatures, a form of basic decentralised ledger which is the basis of Blockchain today..

He was so ahead of his time and i think this guy does deserve respect for being the father of Blockchain as i believe he is known