There is nothing surprising. No matter how anyone feels about Bitcoin, it shows incredible indicators of volatility on which you can make great money.
You can predict anything, but there is always the possibility that Bitcoin will rise in price to a large extent, which means that as part of a diversification strategy, you must have a little in your portfolio.
Topic: Fidelity Report Says Portfolios Should Consider 5% Bitcoin Allocation (Read 318 times)
December 18, 2020, 03:00:01 PM
October 19, 2020, 06:39:14 AM
You know what investors put their money into? Most people think that investors put their money into things that will make them more money and that is the end of the story but the reality is investors do not know the future, they just invest into things they "believe" it could make them money, and that is not always the thing that will make them money, sometimes they lose money. No, investors put their money into things that they think people will spend money on, because if you have a company that people are willing to buy from, you are most likely will continue to exists, look at apple for example, they are huge so I wanted to give them as example, everyone all around the world buys apple phones and laptops and so forth, so why not put your money in there?
Bitcoin has to become something people are willing to put their money into before big investors would come in, we are doing it a bit and put our money in but we need tens of billions of dollars more of this to get attention from wall street bigs.
Bitcoin has to become something people are willing to put their money into before big investors would come in, we are doing it a bit and put our money in but we need tens of billions of dollars more of this to get attention from wall street bigs.
October 18, 2020, 09:23:19 PM
5% is not that vital an amount so the suggestion of Fidelity is more on leaning to the safer option or the lower risk option. Bitcoin is not yet very established as an investment option but it somehow suggests that it is quite independent and uncorrelated so those which are trying to diversify their portfolio won't risk much if they allocate an amount as low as 5% to Bitcoin.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
This is just the beginning. Major funds never invest all their capital in one place. They start little by little with low interest rates. In addition, you need to look not at interest, but at the amount of funds invested in bitcoin, and this equals several hundred million, which is quite a good amount. I am sure that other foundations will follow suit.
Indeed. This is just the first salvo so to speak. I also agree that those percentages may be seemingly low but if you take the US dollar value from it, the amount reaches a staggering several millions.
And with the fiat currency experiencing terrible increase in supply in just a blink of an eye due to the pandemic, there is more reason for large companies to get out of it and put their worth elsewhere. That will include Bitcoin to many of them.
October 18, 2020, 06:59:24 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
1 or 2 trillion dollars are very different amounts, so it must be exact 1 or 2?Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
And, I am sure that he has lots I don' Bitcoin in his portfolio. But the question is does he use it for only long term investment or make it for trading? Well, actually there are also many whales that also probably have more than the amount. But they keep silent and they are no one in the real-life, only focusing on the crypto world and they are not actresses, influencers, politicians, and others.
Me personally, I only have a very small amount in my portfolio. That is why I will put more than 40% of my portfolio in Bitcoin. I don't want to put my little money into too risky new altcoins.
October 18, 2020, 05:51:30 PM
I agree that for a normal person, diversification into Bitcoin and precious metals is a good idea, especially now but if you want to maximize your gains, you need to invest in a microcap like $0xMR.
Lol are you sure about 0xmr? as far as I know if that's a crap coin. to diversification our assets into the bitcoin and that sounds pretty good at this moment but you should realize that in fact if we must take only good coins to be our long term portfolios. Fidelity will never try to consider 0xmr as a token that must be taken caused by it's a very bad coin atm.
I think you are joking about that.
October 18, 2020, 04:26:26 PM
5% is not that vital an amount so the suggestion of Fidelity is more on leaning to the safer option or the lower risk option. Bitcoin is not yet very established as an investment option but it somehow suggests that it is quite independent and uncorrelated so those which are trying to diversify their portfolio won't risk much if they allocate an amount as low as 5% to Bitcoin.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
This is just the beginning. Major funds never invest all their capital in one place. They start little by little with low interest rates. In addition, you need to look not at interest, but at the amount of funds invested in bitcoin, and this equals several hundred million, which is quite a good amount. I am sure that other foundations will follow suit.
October 18, 2020, 03:20:48 AM
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October 17, 2020, 10:38:33 PM
5% is not that vital an amount so the suggestion of Fidelity is more on leaning to the safer option or the lower risk option. Bitcoin is not yet very established as an investment option but it somehow suggests that it is quite independent and uncorrelated so those which are trying to diversify their portfolio won't risk much if they allocate an amount as low as 5% to Bitcoin.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
It has so much potential, as obviously shown and proven by its decade-long existence, so companies are not really blindly risking their 5% to something untested.
October 17, 2020, 10:21:59 PM
This is very exciting time for cryptocurrency
This will be bringing the cryptocurrency into the golden time again. Just imagine how much funds that being managed by the large companies and then when a company like fidelity has suggested 5% from our total portfolios should be on bitcoin. Remember square has already bought a lot of bitcoin to be used as its portfolios too.
Crypto will be avery valuable thing in the future especially bitcoin.
October 17, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
If you really invest 5% into bitcoin when you are that big of a deal as a company, that is going to change too much in the crypto world. Think about places like JP Morgan or Chase or another huge company like that suddenly putting 5% into bitcoin, thats really not something we should not consider happening anytime soon because we are talking about 50+ billion dollars for a 1+ trillion dollar company and some of them actually do have that kind of money.
We can't just make our predictions based on them making 5% bitcoin investment, that is something far far down the line which is why we should focus on a bit sooner. As long as more companies like fidelity or grayscale or square comes up, we are going to get bigger and bigger because they will buy and hold billions of dollars.
We can't just make our predictions based on them making 5% bitcoin investment, that is something far far down the line which is why we should focus on a bit sooner. As long as more companies like fidelity or grayscale or square comes up, we are going to get bigger and bigger because they will buy and hold billions of dollars.
I am also interested in why the price of bitcoin has not yet increased, if such large campaigns have begun to invest in it. Buying so many coins would not be reflected in the price increase. Most likely all these coins were bought on the over-the-counter market, which is upsetting, because I would like to get a very fast rise in bitcoin.
October 16, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
If you really invest 5% into bitcoin when you are that big of a deal as a company, that is going to change too much in the crypto world. Think about places like JP Morgan or Chase or another huge company like that suddenly putting 5% into bitcoin, thats really not something we should not consider happening anytime soon because we are talking about 50+ billion dollars for a 1+ trillion dollar company and some of them actually do have that kind of money.
We can't just make our predictions based on them making 5% bitcoin investment, that is something far far down the line which is why we should focus on a bit sooner. As long as more companies like fidelity or grayscale or square comes up, we are going to get bigger and bigger because they will buy and hold billions of dollars.
We can't just make our predictions based on them making 5% bitcoin investment, that is something far far down the line which is why we should focus on a bit sooner. As long as more companies like fidelity or grayscale or square comes up, we are going to get bigger and bigger because they will buy and hold billions of dollars.
October 15, 2020, 11:01:19 PM
This is very exciting time for cryptocurrency
October 15, 2020, 05:37:39 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
What matters here is not the amount for which Fidelity bought bitcoins. The very fact that such a large fund started investing in the cryptocurrency market is very important here. I am sure that gradually the rest of the funds will go to invest in cryptocurrencies and, more and more, for large sums.
October 15, 2020, 08:36:19 AM
They recommend 5% in bitcoin but it doesn't say whether they are planning to invest. If they do, it will definitely help the bitcoin price. I am not sure what their total investment portfolio is but I believe its in trillions and even 5% of that could bring market to higher level. Although, I think it should be around 20-30%, not 5%
October 15, 2020, 08:31:05 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
It looks like fidelity was also considering it caused by its own survey as so many people have invested their money into the cryptocurrency.
Is not it should be around 400 billions as the total customer's asset in that was holding by fidelity was around 8 trillion dollars?
If that will be a real thing and i can't imagine how it will give an impact on the bitcoin. That's very huge money to come in.
Like I said I don't know how many trillions Fidelity have, if you said around 8 trillion dollars now that's HUGE!
October 15, 2020, 03:02:54 AM
Whatever it takes to make crypto legit in the eyes of many people and it's a good thing. Crypto has long been used as a form of investment and it's about time for people to figure this out instead of wasting time on those stocks that has the same risk as crypto but way less profit lol. Diversifying portfolio to crypto is kinda normal at this point as long as you don't put all your money in the same basket it won't go anywhere.
October 15, 2020, 02:14:13 AM
Still they said there is potential on the crypto market so don't forget to some of your money into cryptos for their investors but the percentage is the only error I guess.As I said it has plenty of room the 5% even look so small, it will be increased when more people enters into the market.
Of course the Bitcoin network has potential, but users should decide for themselves how many % of their funds they want to put into the BTC network, 5% may be too much for some, but for some companies that have adopted the network, it may be quite small. But mind you that the Bitcoin network is a speculative market and notwithstanding that it can be a hedge when institutional currencies plunge, users should still abide with the rule of thumb of investing what they can afford to loseWe all know how these big guys can manipulate market in their wanted direction so smaller guys need to be careful, yes market outlook is also bullish but still i think we should not follow such news.
I don't think this has anything to do with any sort of manipulation, and if users don't fall for FUD, then no matter how whales manipulate the market, it doesn't affect their asset, that being said, this year big companies are now seeing more potential in BTC, maybe it's cause of how the economy and fiat reacted badly to covid-19, it helped BTC adoption a lot to say the least. 
October 14, 2020, 05:42:08 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
It looks like fidelity was also considering it caused by its own survey as so many people have invested their money into the cryptocurrency.
Is not it should be around 400 billions as the total customer's asset in that was holding by fidelity was around 8 trillion dollars?
If that will be a real thing and i can't imagine how it will give an impact on the bitcoin. That's very huge money to come in.
October 14, 2020, 04:12:39 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
If this is there research report or analysis then it is totally fine but if they have made investment into bitcoin and now posting such things then it is nothing but shilling.Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
We all know how these big guys can manipulate market in their wanted direction so smaller guys need to be careful, yes market outlook is also bullish but still i think we should not follow such news.
October 14, 2020, 02:07:10 PM
This is easily a buy signal and it also shows the fact that every invedtment firm is now keen to adopt, invest and hold crypto, they were skeptical like 2-3 years ago but now they seem clear and that is why they are openly and publically speaking about it now.
October 14, 2020, 02:00:07 PM
With such news and developments, especially big funds and companies now investing millions in bitcoins, it seems like time is ripe for the market to go parabolic so hopefully bitcoin will be ready for its moon journey anytime soon now. I hope all market will move at a time which will be indication of maturity and more volume and liquidity in the market.
October 14, 2020, 01:57:11 PM
That's true especially if you're only holding safe assets like big companies and gold. In that case it's very smart to have kind of volatile hedge against that investment that might explode into 10x gains over the next few years.
If your whole portfolio consists of volatile all or nothing investments like startups you might not see your chance in Bitcoin. But maybe your gambling side will want to give it a go
If your whole portfolio consists of volatile all or nothing investments like startups you might not see your chance in Bitcoin. But maybe your gambling side will want to give it a go
October 14, 2020, 01:39:44 PM
They just advised to for the investors to hold atleast 5% of bitcoin into their portfolios, yes if everyone hears it means the value will be increasing a lot but still 5% id too less amount for the crypto enthusiasts, I expect the value to rise upto 50% in the next 5 to 10 years. 
well that is a very good choice and I will also think like that when I have a very large allocation of bitcoin and see the history of bitcoin price movements from the very beginning of the creation of bitcoin which only has a price of less than $50 and currently the price can reach more than $15k this means it has a lot of potential so saving it for more than 10 years is a smart choice. 
October 14, 2020, 01:29:10 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
I believe 5% is a lot for a newcomer.
Simeone may start with 3%, and as bitcoin price goes up it will increase the overall bitcoin % in the portfolio.
Probably fidelity bought at lower prices and it is now 5%, but initially it could be much less like 1-2%
Anyway, I have a good % so bitcoin . Trying to increase
October 14, 2020, 01:18:06 PM
They just advised to for the investors to hold atleast 5% of bitcoin into their portfolios, yes if everyone hears it means the value will be increasing a lot but still 5% id too less amount for the crypto enthusiasts, I expect the value to rise upto 50% in the next 5 to 10 years.
i think this is a good news mate
anyway if bitcoin give a good return on their investments
its very possible if in the next couple of years they will increase the alocation on bitcoin investments not only 5%
October 14, 2020, 12:51:23 PM
I think you guys should revisit op's link, the headline seems to have been corrected/changed:
That being said, The Bitcoin network even based on it's market cap is growing, this year alone Bitcoin has been adopted by big companies such as MicroStrategy, Grayscale etc, and due to the pandemic and how institutional fiat currencies and their economy lost value leading to inflation, more people have bought Bitcoin as a hedge against this devaluation. I agree with the article that Bitcoin has room to grow, and it is doing just that, despite that the mainstream media isn't doing Btc any favors with how they link it closely with scam. Imo when btc 'rallies' above it's ath, and the economy/fiat is still struggling due to covid-19, the btc network will grow much more, even towards mass adoption.
Still they said there is potential on the crypto market so don't forget to some of your money into cryptos for their investors but the percentage is the only error I guess.As I said it has plenty of room the 5% even look so small, it will be increased when more people enters into the market. Quote
CORRECTION (Oct. 14, 2020, 04:25 UTC): This article originally said Fidelity recommended that portfolios consider a 5% allocation in bitcoin. The language used was a hypothetical. CoinDesk regrets the error.
This is fidelity report's actual message:Quote
Fidelity Digital Assets said bitcoin’s market cap has plenty of room to grow in a Tuesday report on the benchmark cryptocurrency’s uncorrelated nature.
That being said, The Bitcoin network even based on it's market cap is growing, this year alone Bitcoin has been adopted by big companies such as MicroStrategy, Grayscale etc, and due to the pandemic and how institutional fiat currencies and their economy lost value leading to inflation, more people have bought Bitcoin as a hedge against this devaluation. I agree with the article that Bitcoin has room to grow, and it is doing just that, despite that the mainstream media isn't doing Btc any favors with how they link it closely with scam. Imo when btc 'rallies' above it's ath, and the economy/fiat is still struggling due to covid-19, the btc network will grow much more, even towards mass adoption.
October 14, 2020, 01:44:06 AM
I think you guys should revisit op's link, the headline seems to have been corrected/changed:
That being said, The Bitcoin network even based on it's market cap is growing, this year alone Bitcoin has been adopted by big companies such as MicroStrategy, Grayscale etc, and due to the pandemic and how institutional fiat currencies and their economy lost value leading to inflation, more people have bought Bitcoin as a hedge against this devaluation. I agree with the article that Bitcoin has room to grow, and it is doing just that, despite that the mainstream media isn't doing Btc any favors with how they link it closely with scam. Imo when btc 'rallies' above it's ath, and the economy/fiat is still struggling due to covid-19, the btc network will grow much more, even towards mass adoption.
Quote
CORRECTION (Oct. 14, 2020, 04:25 UTC): This article originally said Fidelity recommended that portfolios consider a 5% allocation in bitcoin. The language used was a hypothetical. CoinDesk regrets the error.
This is fidelity report's actual message:Quote
Fidelity Digital Assets said bitcoin’s market cap has plenty of room to grow in a Tuesday report on the benchmark cryptocurrency’s uncorrelated nature.
That being said, The Bitcoin network even based on it's market cap is growing, this year alone Bitcoin has been adopted by big companies such as MicroStrategy, Grayscale etc, and due to the pandemic and how institutional fiat currencies and their economy lost value leading to inflation, more people have bought Bitcoin as a hedge against this devaluation. I agree with the article that Bitcoin has room to grow, and it is doing just that, despite that the mainstream media isn't doing Btc any favors with how they link it closely with scam. Imo when btc 'rallies' above it's ath, and the economy/fiat is still struggling due to covid-19, the btc network will grow much more, even towards mass adoption.
October 14, 2020, 01:43:52 AM
They just advised to for the investors to hold atleast 5% of bitcoin into their portfolios, yes if everyone hears it means the value will be increasing a lot but still 5% id too less amount for the crypto enthusiasts, I expect the value to rise upto 50% in the next 5 to 10 years.
I agree, i think they meant all type of investor (Not include them maybe?) But yeah, Fidelity is kinda positive with Bitcoin in the long run
Furthermore, i strongly agree that we should have Bitcoin in our portfolio is because i have literally 0% bitcoin in my crypto portfolio lol
I only holds Alts
When Bitcoin are moving, i gain no exposure to it :/ 
October 14, 2020, 01:32:35 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Yes, it's a lot for us but, I don't think for them it will be lol. Fidelity was one of the first institutional investment firms that created a separate branch for digital assets so I think they definitely have huge investments in digital assets.
October 14, 2020, 01:08:38 AM
Will the investors going to listen to them?
Just get the numbers and calculate how much 5% would be.
I can't figure out 5% exactly how much, but it sure is a lot of money.
If 5% of the Fidelity Investment portfolio was invested in bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market it would certainly change the crypto market and people would be crazier than 2017.
Perhaps we will quickly see bitcoin reach $ 20,000 or $ 50,000.
It's all speculative, nobody knows the actual amount that they have. I've seen a thread that says that they've got $2.45-T in 2017 but for 2020, it's unknown.If 5% of the Fidelity Investment portfolio was invested in bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market it would certainly change the crypto market and people would be crazier than 2017.
Perhaps we will quickly see bitcoin reach $ 20,000 or $ 50,000.
Just get the numbers and calculate how much 5% would be.
October 14, 2020, 12:46:14 AM
This is a good advice, 5% per investor is not a bad advice and as little as it seem it's a big investment that will have big impact on bitcoin, imagine if everyone start holding their 5% worth of Bitcoin? 20,000 $ and higher is possible, I have a feeling that this is the perfect time to start considering HODL
October 14, 2020, 12:21:33 AM
I can't figure out 5% exactly how much, but it sure is a lot of money.
If 5% of the Fidelity Investment portfolio was invested in bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market it would certainly change the crypto market and people would be crazier than 2017.
Perhaps we will quickly see bitcoin reach $ 20,000 or $ 50,000.
If 5% of the Fidelity Investment portfolio was invested in bitcoin and the cryptocurrency market it would certainly change the crypto market and people would be crazier than 2017.
Perhaps we will quickly see bitcoin reach $ 20,000 or $ 50,000.
October 13, 2020, 11:30:42 PM
Hey if 50% that could mean it's worth trillion or trillions pump into Bitcoin/crypto! I know Fidelity Investment have very large portfolios, just don't know how many trillion or trillions.
October 13, 2020, 11:24:05 PM
They just advised to for the investors to hold atleast 5% of bitcoin into their portfolios, yes if everyone hears it means the value will be increasing a lot but still 5% id too less amount for the crypto enthusiasts, I expect the value to rise upto 50% in the next 5 to 10 years.
October 13, 2020, 11:18:33 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/fidelity-report-says-portfolios-should-consider-5-bitcoin-allocation
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
Fidelity Investment have like 1 or 2 trillions dollars portfolios? So 5% is like 50 or 100 billions dollars? That's a lot!
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