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I don't agree with the system used by the Indonesian national team at the moment, many naturalized players are forced to play in the FIFA World Cup U17 and it has a bad impact on local players. Currently, Indonesian national teams head coach have confirmed with 37 players take part in the selection but most of them dominance by naturalized. But is realistic because Indonesia doesn't have junior competition until right now they not start with junior competition when begin.

Naturalized players have been a long debate and it has been used by PSS for a long time and strangely it has not had a big impact on the development of the Indonesian national team but PSSI is still continuing their way of recruiting national team players, it would be better if PSSI started coaching from the bottom right only looking for naturalized players, as long as PSSI doesn't change its ways then Indonesian football will develop in a less encouraging direction, but I doubt there will be any changes in the near future because the focus should be on getting results instantly, while coaching from the bottom takes years or even decades before finally enjoying the results of seeing Indonesian football growing rapidly.

What is the achievement of the U17 Indonesian national team with the dominance of naturalized players, are they able to qualify from the group phase or is Indonesia only a complementary team at the U17 FIFA World Cup?

Of course this can only be proven when the tournament is underway, the junior team's strength map is a bit different from the seniors so maybe the Indonesian team here has a good chance to win a match or even qualify from the group phase, and the mentality of the Indonesian junior players will be tested in this tournament Are they strong enough to take the pressure during the match?
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Indonesian mixed-blood players have always strengthened the national team and on average players like this have good experience competing with strong teams from various European clubs.
If you say that players from the village are qualified, that's true, but they only have good playing skills, even though in a soccer match in a prestigious tournament that also requires mentality and experience.
Problems of jealousy and conflict between players will never occur if all players practice and play well and can understand each other both in communication and in cohesiveness when on the field.

If a player is eligible to represent a team as per FIFA rules, then nothing else should matter. This tournament is quite important for Indonesia. They are getting an opportunity to participate in one of the major FIFA tournaments after a long interval. Performance by the U-17 team will be closely monitored. And in order to get good results, it is important to have a good team bonding and proper communication system. Descended players agreed to represent Indonesia as per the request from the management. If they are treated poorly, then that will tarnish the reputation of the national football association.
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I am still confused, why is Indonesia always looking for Naturalized or descendant players?
because when I look at how talented native players are in the village. this might jealousy result for each other thus often causing conflict between players. I often see too tarkam tournament on my village, the talented player equivalent to professional player on a big European club, but no one is recruiting, or maybe they should pay some money to the coach and official if want to play on national team?
Indonesian mixed-blood players have always strengthened the national team and on average players like this have good experience competing with strong teams from various European clubs.
If you say that players from the village are qualified, that's true, but they only have good playing skills, even though in a soccer match in a prestigious tournament that also requires mentality and experience.
Problems of jealousy and conflict between players will never occur if all players practice and play well and can understand each other both in communication and in cohesiveness when on the field.
Because they are not being given a chance to play in a prestigious tournament that makes them less of experience. I don't know how talent play seeker work, or they don't have an agent?. I think its pretty easy to looking for a Indonesian Talent player, they just need to create a competition like AGT (American Got Talent) but in football, this is a very good event, no one has made yet on television. this could be income for PSSI to develop young Indonesia players.
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I am still confused, why is Indonesia always looking for Naturalized or descendant players?
because when I look at how talented native players are in the village. this might jealousy result for each other thus often causing conflict between players. I often see too tarkam tournament on my village, the talented player equivalent to professional player on a big European club, but no one is recruiting, or maybe they should pay some money to the coach and official if want to play on national team?
I don't agree with the system used by the Indonesian national team at the moment, many naturalized players are forced to play in the FIFA World Cup U17 and it has a bad impact on local players. Currently, Indonesian national teams head coach have confirmed with 37 players take part in the selection but most of them dominance by naturalized. But is realistic because Indonesia doesn't have junior competition until right now they not start with junior competition when begin.
What is the achievement of the U17 Indonesian national team with the dominance of naturalized players, are they able to qualify from the group phase or is Indonesia only a complementary team at the U17 FIFA World Cup?
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I am still confused, why is Indonesia always looking for Naturalized or descendant players?
because when I look at how talented native players are in the village. this might jealousy result for each other thus often causing conflict between players. I often see too tarkam tournament on my village, the talented player equivalent to professional player on a big European club, but no one is recruiting, or maybe they should pay some money to the coach and official if want to play on national team?
Indonesian mixed-blood players have always strengthened the national team and on average players like this have good experience competing with strong teams from various European clubs.
If you say that players from the village are qualified, that's true, but they only have good playing skills, even though in a soccer match in a prestigious tournament that also requires mentality and experience.
Problems of jealousy and conflict between players will never occur if all players practice and play well and can understand each other both in communication and in cohesiveness when on the field.
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I am still confused, why is Indonesia always looking for Naturalized or descendant players?
because when I look at how talented native players are in the village. this might jealousy result for each other thus often causing conflict between players. I often see too tarkam tournament on my village, the talented player equivalent to professional player on a big European club, but no one is recruiting, or maybe they should pay some money to the coach and official if want to play on national team?

In the end, the funding from FIFA depends on the performance by the national team. Naturalized and descended players with experience of playing in European leagues can completely change the overall structure of the team and make it more competitive. And Indonesia is not the only country that is following this approach. Alexander Merkel and Heinrich Schmidtgal represented Kazakhstan, despite being German citizens (both of them were born in Kazakhstan). So there's nothing wrong IMO.
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Of course, I believe the Associaton and coach appointed by Indonesia are currently looking for their best players for this big event. One of them already has talented goalkeeper Aidan Julien Bonvanie. He has an Indonesian passport and is still 14 years old currently he plays at AVV Zeeburgia U16, a youth club from Amsterdam. For Aidan's goalkeeper size to be so good, 180 cm maybe he will still participate in the selection. It seems that Indonesia is also preparing to go to Germany to train. 
I am still confused, why is Indonesia always looking for Naturalized or descendant players?
because when I look at how talented native players are in the village. this might jealousy result for each other thus often causing conflict between players. I often see too tarkam tournament on my village, the talented player equivalent to professional player on a big European club, but no one is recruiting, or maybe they should pay some money to the coach and official if want to play on national team?
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drawing group will be held on August and Indonesia will not be in the same group as Brazil because as the host Indonesia will into pot 1 along with Mexico, France, Spain, Japan and Brazil so it will be slightly beneficial for them although to qualified to the next round is very difficult for them
Of course, I believe the Associaton and coach appointed by Indonesia are currently looking for their best players for this big event. One of them already has talented goalkeeper Aidan Julien Bonvanie. He has an Indonesian passport and is still 14 years old currently he plays at AVV Zeeburgia U16, a youth club from Amsterdam. For Aidan's goalkeeper size to be so good, 180 cm maybe he will still participate in the selection. It seems that Indonesia is also preparing to go to Germany to train. 
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It will be very difficult to predict the chances of Indonesia qualifying for the next round, since the schedule is not out yet. It won't be that difficult, as the top two teams from each group will progress to the knockout stage. And also, competition at U-17 level can't be compared to that at the senior level. There is a good chance of upsets happening. The first match will be played in around 4 months from now, and therefore we can expect the announcement regarding FIFA on schedule and grouping of the teams very soon.
Pessimistic for Indonesian national team qualifying to next round due Indonesia not have junior competition U17, few months left before FIFA U-17 World Cup beginning Indonesian try to choose their squad by selection without having competition and difficult for head coach to know how capacities with Indonesian player. I don't think with long term training center will make Indonesia junior teams have solid performance because need competition how to push player mentality.
But group stage not drawing yet and hope Indonesian team in easy group without face Brazil or top European national teams because difficult for Indonesian teams will qualify to next stage.
Indonesia don't have much time for the preparation to facing this tournament and until today they still selected the players and choose who are the players who will be playing for this tournament and after selection over the coach will conduct the training center in England and Germany so they very serious for this tournament but indeed in the term of squad quality Indonesia is far below to their upcoming opponents because there are plently of strong countries to playing at there however drawing group will be held on August and Indonesia will not be in the same group as Brazil because as the host Indonesia will into pot 1 along with Mexico, France, Spain, Japan and Brazil so it will be slightly beneficial for them although to qualified to the next round is very difficult for them
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It will be very difficult to predict the chances of Indonesia qualifying for the next round, since the schedule is not out yet. It won't be that difficult, as the top two teams from each group will progress to the knockout stage. And also, competition at U-17 level can't be compared to that at the senior level. There is a good chance of upsets happening. The first match will be played in around 4 months from now, and therefore we can expect the announcement regarding FIFA on schedule and grouping of the teams very soon.
Pessimistic for Indonesian national team qualifying to next round due Indonesia not have junior competition U17, few months left before FIFA U-17 World Cup beginning Indonesian try to choose their squad by selection without having competition and difficult for head coach to know how capacities with Indonesian player. I don't think with long term training center will make Indonesia junior teams have solid performance because need competition how to push player mentality.
But group stage not drawing yet and hope Indonesian team in easy group without face Brazil or top European national teams because difficult for Indonesian teams will qualify to next stage.
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Indonesia has data on 30 players of descent and 10 people must have Indonesian passports. One of the most talked about is Welberlieskott de Halim Jardim, he's a Sao Paulo player and Gabriel Han Willhoft-King who plays at Tottenham Hotspurs' Under 18 years.
it would be interesting if the Host could deploy a squad that could compete with other strong teams. because we know that even though the competition is at a young age, Indonesia is not the favorite to win. they host, and not just make good hosts for a successful event. but if they come up with a good squad it will be even better value for the hosts.

It will be very difficult to predict the chances of Indonesia qualifying for the next round, since the schedule is not out yet. It won't be that difficult, as the top two teams from each group will progress to the knockout stage. And also, competition at U-17 level can't be compared to that at the senior level. There is a good chance of upsets happening. The first match will be played in around 4 months from now, and therefore we can expect the announcement regarding FIFA on schedule and grouping of the teams very soon.
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Indonesia has data on 30 players of descent and 10 people must have Indonesian passports. One of the most talked about is Welberlieskott de Halim Jardim, he's a Sao Paulo player and Gabriel Han Willhoft-King who plays at Tottenham Hotspurs' Under 18 years.
it would be interesting if the Host could deploy a squad that could compete with other strong teams. because we know that even though the competition is at a young age, Indonesia is not the favorite to win. they host, and not just make good hosts for a successful event. but if they come up with a good squad it will be even better value for the hosts.


Of course that will be the concentration for the current Indonesian football organization, namely PSSI, on how to develop a squad that can compete well later in the tournament as well as being a successful host.
The strength map for the junior team is not the same as for the senior team, but I'm sure the difference won't be that great because the junior players describe the development of football development for their senior team later, so indeed Indonesia won't be a favorite but shouldn't fail to get points even if it can passing the group phase will be very good because it will provide motivation to other junior players to be able to develop their skills so they can compete in Asia or outside Asia, really looking forward to this junior team being a good team in that tournament.
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Indonesia has data on 30 players of descent and 10 people must have Indonesian passports. One of the most talked about is Welberlieskott de Halim Jardim, he's a Sao Paulo player and Gabriel Han Willhoft-King who plays at Tottenham Hotspurs' Under 18 years.
it would be interesting if the Host could deploy a squad that could compete with other strong teams. because we know that even though the competition is at a young age, Indonesia is not the favorite to win. they host, and not just make good hosts for a successful event. but if they come up with a good squad it will be even better value for the hosts.

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Quite excited to see teams like New Caledonia, Mali, Burkina Faso and Uzbekistan in this tournament. We never get an opportunity to watch these teams in senior FIFA tournaments like the World Cup or the Asia Cup. Such diversity also shows the effort that FIFA has put in recent years, in order to spread the game to every nook and corner of the planet. My main concern is that the two most populous nations (India and China) are still missing out. I am not in favor of giving wild card qualifications to these teams, but their absence mean that one-third of the world's population is not represented.
Looks like China and India aren't focusing again on football, they may focus elsewhere on other sports and technology, It's good I think, another big country with traditional football doesn't concern again to them. Maybe this is the right time to developing county to expand their young player to the football industry. but it is also necessary to study hard in Brazil and Spain. because they won't be able to Industry if only rely on their skill.
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I read that an event will be held from 10 November until 2 December 2023. Drawing country which will be in place in group held on the next month on Jakarta. Indonesia is in pot 1 with Brazil, France, Mexico, Spain, and Japan. Pot 2 Germany, Mali, England, South Korea, Argentina, Ecuador. Pot 3 New Zealand, Iran, Senegal, United States of America, Uzbekistan, Morocco. Pot 4 Canada, New Caledonia, Panama, Burkina Faso, Poland, Venezuela. Each group will be filled from pots 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_U-17_World_Cup


Quite excited to see teams like New Caledonia, Mali, Burkina Faso and Uzbekistan in this tournament. We never get an opportunity to watch these teams in senior FIFA tournaments like the World Cup or the Asia Cup. Such diversity also shows the effort that FIFA has put in recent years, in order to spread the game to every nook and corner of the planet. My main concern is that the two most populous nations (India and China) are still missing out. I am not in favor of giving wild card qualifications to these teams, but their absence mean that one-third of the world's population is not represented.
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I read that an event will be held from 10 November until 2 December 2023. Drawing country which will be in place in group held on the next month on Jakarta. Indonesia is in pot 1 with Brazil, France, Mexico, Spain, and Japan. Pot 2 Germany, Mali, England, South Korea, Argentina, Ecuador. Pot 3 New Zealand, Iran, Senegal, United States of America, Uzbekistan, Morocco. Pot 4 Canada, New Caledonia, Panama, Burkina Faso, Poland, Venezuela. Each group will be filled from pots 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_U-17_World_Cup
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One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team


Naturally, it seems to be for all countries. There is no guarantee that all young players will continue to enter the senior team. This is because performance may decline and there will be players who have better abilities at that time. So all players need to work hard to maintain their abilities to get better and not decrease. Of course coaching at club level and the ability to continue training will affect. So many scouts will look at this event, they will certainly use it to find quality players to attract in the club and nurture them to develop better.
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One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team
This might be a serious problem, but on another side this can be healthy competition for the team. As we can on the previous world cup, many top-quality players sit on bench, the coach at that time is not confused to choose a player and give a young player chance on the field. But, because they always overact and lost dramatically, and this could be the seriously problem if can't handle it. And, I think Brazilian players will not run out until next 20 years, they have good talent to bring them to the world stage. 
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Yes, Nigeria did perform very well a few years ago, but lately, Brazil junior has dominated every tournament that has been held.
Nigeria has also produced great players but Brazil has proven to the world they have a history of very extraordinary players, namely Pelle where he managed to bring Brazil to win the World Cup 3 times and in the current era there is Neymar with very beautiful and agile dribbling skills also a star from Brazil.

For the tournament that will be held in Indonesia later, I'm still sure Brazil will dominate and come out as champions.

Brazil played a friendly match yesterday against the Mexican national team, you can watch the complete match if you are interested, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opP25T8Vefg
(in case you guys want to place bets, it's good to see how the team is playing, or at least the highlights)

Brazil won 5 x 2, playing very well, and it is worth remembering that Mexico is the current Concacaf champion.
It is also worth remembering that in the previous friendly match, on June 27, Mexico won 1 x 0 against Brazil

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.

Nigeria won a FIFA World Cup in 1985, but back then it was an U16, after that URSS and Saudi Arabia were champions and then the tournament changed to U17
If we consider that they are the same, yes, Nigeria won 5 times and Brazil 4. I don't know if FIFA considers the same tournament

One thing that I also find very interesting about this tournament is that it is not guaranteed that the U17 or even the U21 will continue to play for the Brazilian national team
Many players who play very well and by logic would continue to play for the national team end up losing space and not being as successful
I would say that from the U17 team today, probably 2 or 3 will make it to the main national team
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Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.
Yes, Nigeria did perform very well a few years ago, but lately, Brazil junior has dominated every tournament that has been held.
Nigeria has also produced great players but Brazil has proven to the world they have a history of very extraordinary players, namely Pelle where he managed to bring Brazil to win the World Cup 3 times and in the current era there is Neymar with very beautiful and agile dribbling skills also a star from Brazil.

For the tournament that will be held in Indonesia later, I'm still sure Brazil will dominate and come out as champions.
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Is there a possibility that the Indonesian National Team will summon several players of descent who play in Europe or other regions to strengthen the team at the age of 17? because lately, it seems that there are several players of Indonesian descent who are trusted in competitions of more senior age.

This is interesting, the  U17 world cup event can be used for players to show their abilities and captivate scouts around the world. For countries other than Indonesia I feel sure, they have many players who are regularly trained in the club let's call it Lamine zamal from Barcelona to defend Spain and of course other countries. Indonesia is also not behind. Indonesia has data on 30 players of descent and 10 people must have Indonesian passports. One of the most talked about is Welberlieskott de Halim Jardim, he's a Sao Paulo player and Gabriel Han Willhoft-King who plays at Tottenham Hotspurs' Under 18 years.
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Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.

Nigeria has also done very well in this tournament winning the trophy 5 times ahead of Brazil who have won it 4 times. Nigeria has also produced very good players who later got into u-20 team and senior team super eagles. But unfortunately, Nigeria will not be featuring in this years Asian tournament hosted by Indonesia in November/December after they lost to Burkina Faso at the last group stage.
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Having a World Cup title for the junior national team can have a very good impact on players because they will get used to playing in prestigious events to train their mentality and also how to play against teams from other countries that are strong enough.
FIFA has worked well so far for the development of world football so let's support all football events that are held.

In this U17 World Cup, I'm not too sure that teams from Asia can reach the top because they are still below the Europa and Conmebol teams.
Brazil still has a big chance of becoming the defending champion because they always have very good junior players and so far Brazil has produced quite a lot of great and quality players.
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now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.
This is special, I hope Indonesia will no longer be canceled in holding big events. I hope no political interest is created to derail a major FIFA event. Of course my hope is that Indonesia can reach the knockout phase. I was a little hesitant, because Indonesia's posture tends to be small and loses in physical battles. I saw it happen when the Indonesian U-20 players were preparing against a country like France. But I hope with four months they can minimize that gap with a one-two touch game. Just like Barcelona.
Yes, in terms of posture, there is definitely a shortage of Indonesian players and most teams are from Asia. but if Indonesian players have the speed to make up for deficiencies in body posture, maybe the Indonesian national team at this age can compete with their favorite team.
Is there a possibility that the Indonesian National Team will summon several players of descent who play in Europe or other regions to strengthen the team at the age of 17? because lately, it seems that there are several players of Indonesian descent who are trusted in competitions of more senior age.
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Talking about favorites, I don't know which team to favorite because Indonesia (my country) will also be playing in this tournament. Of course, there's no doubt that I will favor Indonesia regardless of whether they are a weak or strong team.
Same, I will also favor my beloved country, Indonesia. Previously, the Indonesia youth national team successfully won the U-16 AFF Cup last year, I think the squad Indonesia U-17 this years will be filled with young players who have won achievements at that time.
But in reality it will be very tough for Indonesia, because reigning champions Brazil will probably have a higher chance to win the title, considering their are also having produced a lot of professional players.

Hoping that Indonesia can win an international tournament is a very utopian thought, I favor Indonesia because I'm part of them, of course, if not us, who else will be their favourite? can't be people from other countries, right? FYI, Nigeria didn't succeed in qualifying for the u-17 world cup this time, even though they're the team that has won the most u-17 world titles (5 times).

There is no FIFA U-21 world cup. We have U-17 and U-20 world cups.

Thanks for the correction, mate. You're right Grin
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More than 4 months to go, but I can see that a lot of interest is there. And the schedule is not yet out (it will be known only by August). One thing that I liked about this tournament is that they have given equal importance to all the confederations. There are 5 participants from AFC(including the hosts), 4 each from CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and 2 from OFC. UEFA is restricted to 5 teams. A lot of people are going to complain that UEFA is under-represented, but I am quite OK with the current setup. They can't increase the number of participants anymore (this is a U-17 tournament) and need to give enough representation to all the confederations.
The drawing of the group division is still carried out around November-December which is a long time. In addition, Indonesia has also not announced the stadium that will be used for the group stage until the final. But if you look at the U20 World Cup preparations that were canceled, there are six stadium names chosen.
1. Jakabaring Stadium (Palembang)
2. Gelora Karno Main Stadium (Jakarta)
3. Si Jalak Harupat Stadium (Bandung)
4. Manahan Stadium (Solo)
5. Gelora Tomo Stadium (Surabaya)
6. Captain I Wayan Dipta Stadium (Gianyar, Bali)
Maybe this could be Indonesia's choice because they have been preparing it for the U20 World Cup which was canceled.

Source: https://indonesiabaik.id/infografis/enam-stadion-yang-digunakan-piala-dunia-u-20-di-indonesia
I think the selection of Indonesia as the host is not only due to the cancelation of the U-20 World Cup in Indonesia and now at U-17 instead. FIFA sees that Indonesia has a ready stadium that can be used. and I think it just needs some fixing and re-checking of FIFA for its readiness.
from a stadium point of view, I'm sure there won't be any problems. the most important thing is that there is no political chaos in Indonesia that could disrupt the implementation from a security perspective. the fight will begin closer to the democratic party in Indonesia.
This is a big event, I hope that all people and the government can unite to launch and succeed in the Indonesian U-17 World Cup.
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More than 4 months to go, but I can see that a lot of interest is there. And the schedule is not yet out (it will be known only by August). One thing that I liked about this tournament is that they have given equal importance to all the confederations. There are 5 participants from AFC(including the hosts), 4 each from CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and 2 from OFC. UEFA is restricted to 5 teams. A lot of people are going to complain that UEFA is under-represented, but I am quite OK with the current setup. They can't increase the number of participants anymore (this is a U-17 tournament) and need to give enough representation to all the confederations.
The drawing of the group division is still carried out around November-December which is a long time. In addition, Indonesia has also not announced the stadium that will be used for the group stage until the final. But if you look at the U20 World Cup preparations that were canceled, there are six stadium names chosen.
1. Jakabaring Stadium (Palembang)
2. Gelora Karno Main Stadium (Jakarta)
3. Si Jalak Harupat Stadium (Bandung)
4. Manahan Stadium (Solo)
5. Gelora Tomo Stadium (Surabaya)
6. Captain I Wayan Dipta Stadium (Gianyar, Bali)
Maybe this could be Indonesia's choice because they have been preparing it for the U20 World Cup which was canceled.

Source: https://indonesiabaik.id/infografis/enam-stadion-yang-digunakan-piala-dunia-u-20-di-indonesia
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Don't expect too much because if they lost you don't lose too much money. I know how the Indonesian team plays and how they nurture young players educated, it's not like another country where spend a lot of money to talent the young player. In Indonesia, they did it half measures like budget, facility, and player needs, Because of that we can see they lost every game, It's just luck if we can see Indonesia Football Team can bring the champions like Sea Games some time ago. I'm more to be realistic now, If they can pass just the group stage is a great achievement, and can bring a new spirit to rise the young player in the future.

Should not be too difficult for them to get past the group phase. This is a U-17 tournament and almost all of the players will be competing outside their home country for the first time. And home advantage can make a big difference. On top of that, European and American teams are going to struggle, to get adjusted to the hot and humid conditions in Indonesia. But in order to make a better prediction we need to know more about their opponents. That is not possible now, because at this point we don't know which are the other teams in Group A.
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After failing to host the U20s, at least Indonesia can get the chance for the U17 world cup, can't wait to see Indonesia's readiness to host later, even though I don't see great players there that I know, but here I support young players to develop and become the best players they can be. will be pulled into the national team in the future.  Wink
Don't expect too much because if they lost you don't lose too much money. I know how the Indonesian team plays and how they nurture young players educated, it's not like another country where spend a lot of money to talent the young player. In Indonesia, they did it half measures like budget, facility, and player needs, Because of that we can see they lost every game, It's just luck if we can see Indonesia Football Team can bring the champions like Sea Games some time ago. I'm more to be realistic now, If they can pass just the group stage is a great achievement, and can bring a new spirit to rise the young player in the future.
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now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.
This is special, I hope Indonesia will no longer be canceled in holding big events. I hope no political interest is created to derail a major FIFA event. Of course my hope is that Indonesia can reach the knockout phase. I was a little hesitant, because Indonesia's posture tends to be small and loses in physical battles. I saw it happen when the Indonesian U-20 players were preparing against a country like France. But I hope with four months they can minimize that gap with a one-two touch game. Just like Barcelona.
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I don't see the development of football in Indonesia so far for the national team, moreover I haven't really seen the team that will be prepared from Indonesia for this match, of course they are young players and haven't seen the quality of the playing style as well as others, but if this event is held in sports betting site looks interesting to bet looking for experience in youth sports betting.

After failing to host the U20s, at least Indonesia can get the chance for the U17 world cup, can't wait to see Indonesia's readiness to host later, even though I don't see great players there that I know, but here I support young players to develop and become the best players they can be. will be pulled into the national team in the future.  Wink
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Actually, it is quite surprising that FIFA appointed Indonesia as the host, hopefully, the organizers can prepare everything well so that the implementation is successful and can raise the name of Indonesia so that when running for other tournaments it can be calculated properly.
Indonesia is ready for facilities and stadiums. Remember Indonesia was once beaten for the U20 world cup, but it was canceled. Later it was replaced by Argentina. So I think there will be no big problem obstacles, even Indonesia has successfully invited Argentina, and so far there have been no complaints from them. I think four months is enough time to perfect the pitch and support facilities. In the U20 world cup, Indonesia has prepared and verified by FIFA. So this will only continue for the U17 World Cup.
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Indonesia was reportedly very well prepared when they were appointed as the host for the U-20 World Cup agenda. but failed due to some problem. FIFA saw how enthusiastic the Indonesian people were who were crazy about football. FIFA had expressed its disappointment at canceling the U-20 World Cup in Indonesia because it saw how enthusiastic Indonesian supporters were during the friendly match with Argentina.

now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.
There were many unexpected events during the appointment to host the U20 world cup which ultimately made Indonesia fail to host, of course this was enough to make the Indonesian national team players very disappointed even though they had prepared everything before that day arrived. However, with Argentina being chosen as the new host for the U20 world cup, Indonesia will certainly get the advantage, one of which is being able to hold a friendly match against the 2022 world cup champions.

Apart from all that, now Indonesia has been re-elected as the host for the U17 world cup which makes Indonesia have full responsibility for the event this time. The enthusiasm of the Indonesian public is indeed extraordinary for football, especially this is an international competition involving various countries around the world. For stadiums in Indonesia, some of them have met FIFA standards and for sure it will be a suitable stadium for participants later.

Maybe there was a problem with the main stadium which is likely to be the venue for the U17 world cup final later, namely the Gelora Bung Karno Stadium, which had previously been booked for concerts by foreign bands and maybe this would cause friction between the organizers and the football associations in Indonesia to determine who has the right to use the stadium. Considering that this is an international competition, Indonesia certainly wants the stadium to be the final of the U17 World Cup final.
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More than 4 months to go, but I can see that a lot of interest is there. And the schedule is not yet out (it will be known only by August). One thing that I liked about this tournament is that they have given equal importance to all the confederations. There are 5 participants from AFC(including the hosts), 4 each from CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and 2 from OFC. UEFA is restricted to 5 teams. A lot of people are going to complain that UEFA is under-represented, but I am quite OK with the current setup. They can't increase the number of participants anymore (this is a U-17 tournament) and need to give enough representation to all the confederations.
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Indonesia was reportedly very well prepared when they were appointed as the host for the U-20 World Cup agenda. but failed due to some problem. FIFA saw how enthusiastic the Indonesian people were who were crazy about football. FIFA had expressed its disappointment at canceling the U-20 World Cup in Indonesia because it saw how enthusiastic Indonesian supporters were during the friendly match with Argentina.

now with the FIFA U-17 World Cup agenda which will be held in Indonesia. they have high hopes for the success of this agenda. FIFA assesses that Indonesia has a proper and magnificent stadium for the implementation of this agenda. let's see how the preparation of the host Indonesia, not only in their facilities. but also from the readiness of their team to face strong European teams.
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Of course I hope Indonesia can make a surprise even though Indonesia qualified because of Host status. I hope they are able to qualify from the group stage even more than that. At a young age Indonesia has many talented players, they also seem to have the Garuda Select program, although not all are under the age of 17. There are still about 4 months more, I read a lot if they are assisted by senior and U-23 coaches Shin Tae Yong and Indra Sjafri to find young talents in the area to attend long-term training. Another news I heard Thailand failed to qualify for the U17 world cup because they lost 1-4 to South Korea. The other three representatives from Asia are Iran, Uzbekistan, Japan
Junior tournaments are different from senior tournaments so for Indonesia to make surprises is very possible even though they don't become champions but at least they can go far enough to achieve good achievements not only playing in this tournament without results, but I don't really understand also about the strength map of the Indonesian national team at the age of 17, how they are trained and also the preparation.
Actually, it is quite surprising that FIFA appointed Indonesia as the host, hopefully, the organizers can prepare everything well so that the implementation is successful and can raise the name of Indonesia so that when running for other tournaments it can be calculated properly.
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Even this tournamnet is for the junior team, I should be confirmed those countries who have great football traditions like English, France, Germany, Spain, Brazil, and Argentina will be favorites for the champion. because we know, they already exist in all things, they are good at nurturing young players, and their football schools are references from other countries. So, I think, this is just like the early world cup where each talented player meets in a tournament, and we are not surprised if we can see several football agents will take a seat on supporter stands to look for a future talented player.

My favorite is Indonesia, but I can't force it, because I know how they play, So I think Brazil will be the champion again, and meet Argentina in the Final.
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First, congrats for my country Indonesian success become host for FIFA U17 World Cup 2023 and give us little happiness after FIFA removing our participants as host for FIFA U20 World Cup 2023 before changing Argentina as the host. Actually little difficult for predicting which one national teams are favorite with junior level competition, as Indonesian not get impressive performance last edition with U17 squad and we don't have junior competition right now.

Its difficult for Indonesian teams can talk more in FIFA U17 because other teams participants they have competition for junior level and make their head coach easy build teams. However, I have big expectation with FIFA U17, Indonesian teams can qualify from group phase because seems realistic target.
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This is junior tournament and i am sure most of us will not so familiar with all of the players in this tournament and if we see from champion lists i can see Nigeria as the most champion in this tournament with 5 times and following them there was Brazil with 4 title but if we see from list of participants apparently Nigeria will not playing so automatically Brazil is the favourite moreover they are defending champion and for second favourite i personally more likely to choose England

I am sure the talent scouts from European teams will be watching this tournament so this is good for young players because those who can able to performing well probably will be into big teams radar and not impossible they will be signed by big teams and previously some of big names has started to play through an this tournament such as Toni Kroos, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Victor Osimhen, Aurelien Tchouameni and many more and now they are became an famous players
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And still have 4 seats from Asia which is still being contested: Iran vs Yemen, Thailand vs South Korea, Japan vs Australia, and Saudi Arabia vs Uzbekistan, and of course including Indonesia which is the host and is entitled to 1 ticket.

So, what is your favorite?


Of course I hope Indonesia can make a surprise even though Indonesia qualified because of Host status. I hope they are able to qualify from the group stage even more than that. At a young age Indonesia has many talented players, they also seem to have the Garuda Select program, although not all are under the age of 17. There are still about 4 months more, I read a lot if they are assisted by senior and U-23 coaches Shin Tae Yong and Indra Sjafri to find young talents in the area to attend long-term training. Another news I heard Thailand failed to qualify for the U17 world cup because they lost 1-4 to South Korea. The other three representatives from Asia are Iran, Uzbekistan, Japan
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Well am not sure I have any favorite when its comes to football tournament and especially the youth competition like this one but am pretty sure my country has a strong team unlike the national team anytime it come to the youth team especially the under17 and they were also previous winner of the competition in 2015 and would love to see them perform well again of possible.
Since you said your country won the 2015 FIFA U-17 World Cup, you should be from Nigeria.
Nigeria is one of the most successful teams in history of FIFA U-17 world cup with winning the title 4 times, but they haven't qualified for the 2023 tournament. As mentioned by OP, CAF qualified teams are Burkina Faso, Mali, Morocco and Senegal.
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Although I follow a lot of games, different championships, and know a lot of players, including the younger ones, I don't have a very good knowledge of the U-17 players, only the Brazilian players.
Many of them have not yet played for the professional teams, which makes it very difficult to follow

I particularly find it a more difficult tournament than others to place good bets.

Some examples: the Mali team was runner-up in 2015, and 4th place in 2017. Switzerland was champions in 2009, and Nigeria has won the tournament 4 times.

What I can say is only what I know, the Brazilian team. They are the current champions of the tournament and also the current South American champions (without lose any match). The team is really good and if anyone is interested, the team will play on the June 27th (tomorrow) and the 30th, two friendly matches against Mexico
During the championship I will analyze whether the bets will be worthwhile. I believe Brazil will be the favorite


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It's not many months before this world cup starts, I haven't been following the U-17 soccer much, so it's very difficult for me to predict who will be the champion this time, I'll wait for the next few months to see when the news channels start talking a lot about this world cup, they will give very important data about the performance of each U-17 national team, based on that it will also be easier for me to search for more data, but until they get close to the start date of the competition so that I see more data and have an idea of who I'm going to bet one thing I can say now are the teams that I don't expect to win this tournament

I also don't expect to see indonesia winning this tournament, even though it's organized in indonesia, i see indonesia with no chance to win this tournament, i also don't see argentina, new zealand and new caledonia, ecuador, and venezuela, canada, mexico, United States, and Panama, Burkina Faso, Mali, Morocco, and Senegal and Poland. these countries that I mentioned are in my opinion the countries that I do not see them being champions, in the case of other countries like Japan, Iran, Yemen, Thailand, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan any of these countries that qualify for the U-17 world cup will not have a chance to be champion

in my opinion for now the countries that can win this year are england, germany, spain, brazil, france. one of them has a chance of winning, and it's true that I don't have much data on the performance of each national team, so I'm guessing. but in a small analysis I see these countries with greater chances of winning this cup
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Well am not sure I have any favorite when its comes to football tournament and especially the youth competition like this one but am pretty sure my country has a strong team unlike the national team anytime it come to the youth team especially the under17 and they were also previous winner of the competition in 2015 and would love to see them perform well again of possible.
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There is no FIFA U-21 world cup. We have U-17 and U-20 world cups.

Yes this is correct, there is no FIFA U-21 world cup. Only UEFA hosts EURO U-21 tournaments for the youths in the European countries. Also Africa only follows FIFA model, U-17, U20, U-23 (Olympic Squad). In few months time, we will find out the country with the best footballers in teenagers football. I think France would do well to win the competition.
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And still have 4 seats from Asia which is still being contested: Iran vs Yemen, Thailand vs South Korea, Japan vs Australia, and Saudi Arabia vs Uzbekistan,
Iran, South Korea, Japan and Uzbekistan advanced to semi-final of AFC U-17 asian cup and qualified for the final tournament of FIFA U-17 world cup.


BTW, It's quite a surprise to see the U-17 world cup taking place in Indonesia after the U-21 world cup was canceled in this country.
There is no FIFA U-21 world cup. We have U-17 and U-20 world cups.
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U-17 World Cup - basically, it's tournament where teenagers play and it makes very difficult to predict something. Honestly, I have no idea who is main favorites here, but probably we should look at usual suspects like Brazil, Argentina, France, Spain, Germany and England. Now I can't even find outright odds for this tournament.
BTW, currently EURO-21 is outgoing which is much bigger thing as there is some big names are playing there. But as I understand, we don't have topic to discuss it, or I didn't found it...
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In the next few months FIFA U-17 World Cup will start in Indonesia, several major football countries will compete for the title, among them is:

Europe: English, France, Germany, Poland, and Spain.

Conmebol: Brazil (defending champions), Argentina, Ecuador, and Venezuela.

Africa: Burkina Faso, Mali, Morocco, and Senegal

Concacaf: Canada, Mexico, United States, and Panama.

Oceania: New Zealand and New Caledonia.

And still have 4 seats from Asia which is still being contested: Iran vs Yemen, Thailand vs South Korea, Japan vs Australia, and Saudi Arabia vs Uzbekistan, and of course including Indonesia which is the host and is entitled to 1 ticket.

So, what is your favorite?


Is really hard to say which team is the best or favorite at this early stage, but we just have to see how these young lads battle to the final stage of the tournament.
We just have to make a choice eventually and I'd tip the England team as the favorite, they're just like the senior team with so much zeal and they're still pushing hard to get to the senior team so is going to be like we're watching the senior team play. I just feel with so much talents on this young team it will be hard for other teams like the Brazilians to come close.
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So, what is your favorite?
Talking about favorites, I don't know which team to favorite because Indonesia (my country) will also be playing in this tournament. Of course, there's no doubt that I will favor Indonesia regardless of whether they are a weak or strong team.
Same, I will also favor my beloved country, Indonesia. Previously, the Indonesia youth national team successfully won the U-16 AFF Cup last year, I think the squad Indonesia U-17 this years will be filled with young players who have won achievements at that time.
But in reality it will be very tough for Indonesia, because reigning champions Brazil will probably have a higher chance to win the title, considering their are also having produced a lot of professional players.
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[So, what is your favorite?
It is difficult to predict who will be the favorite in this tournament for several reasons.
The fundamental reason, in my opinion, is that each team that will compete is not known for its players and their quality.

The 2019 U17 World Cup in Brazil according to the FIFA timeline, the winner is Brazil.
In 2017 in India, winner of England and in 2015 in Chile, winner of Nigeria.



As an initial prediction, I will choose a team from the Concacaf zone which will emerge as the winner of the U17 World Cup which will be held in Indonesia.
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So, what is your favorite?

First of all welcome back to the forum, how's the past month? Have you found peace in the real world? Cheesy

Talking about favorites, I don't know which team to favorite because Indonesia (my country) will also be playing in this tournament. Of course, there's no doubt that I will favor Indonesia regardless of whether they are a weak or strong team.

BTW, It's quite a surprise to see the U-17 world cup taking place in Indonesia after the U-21 world cup was canceled in this country.
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Previously, the U17 World Cup was to be held in Peru, but due to several reasons, FIFA could not proceed with it because it considered that the supporting infrastructure for the U17 World Cup was not ready and not feasible, so FIFA canceled it. Then FIFA announced and appointed Indonesia to be the substitute host for this World Cup, maybe this had something to do with the cancellation of the U20 World Cup which was to be held in Indonesia, so FIFA considered Indonesia because it had previously prepared everything for the World Cup in the age group.
This may be medicine for Indonesia after the previous big disappointment because they failed to host the U20 World Cup.
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In the next few months FIFA U-17 World Cup will start in Indonesia, several major football countries will compete for the title, among them is:

Europe: English, France, Germany, Poland, and Spain.

Conmebol: Brazil (defending champions), Argentina, Ecuador, and Venezuela.

Africa: Burkina Faso, Mali, Morocco, and Senegal

Concacaf: Canada, Mexico, United States, and Panama.

Oceania: New Zealand and New Caledonia.

And still have 4 seats from Asia which is still being contested: Iran vs Yemen, Thailand vs South Korea, Japan vs Australia, and Saudi Arabia vs Uzbekistan, and of course including Indonesia which is the host and is entitled to 1 ticket.

So, what is your favorite?
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