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Topic: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) (Read 11966 times)

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Mining away one KWh at a time
One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?..

Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s.  Wink

its recommended to run around 60 if I recall reading in a manual somewhere

I know that this is an old thread, however
I'm not sure thats a good temp running at stock speeds, I'm running at 400 and have temps at 55 and 59 for the two hash boards
getting a stable no error 1,436th/s average, I do notice the throughput drops to 1260th/s below 50 or above 65 temp, so the sweet spot is around 56-58
Im also running a 2440W dell server supply , with a cheap 120mm exhaust fan on the output, one more thing I noticed my temps run much lower when the miner is sitting on a flat surface with the bottom closed by at least 8 degrees lower

sr. member
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I draw a little circuit to drive 4 fans with one S5 controller. All fans are powered from pci-e connector so controller won't get over-loaded. Pwm is from controller and fan1 gives rpm-reading. Fan 2 is driven with same pwm than fan1. Now I can use 1 controller to drive 4 hashboards and both miners have 2 fans. I'm currently testing how this works with stock fans.

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Two weeks ago I needed more heat to the house when temperature went down to -27C outside.
Lady of the house is very sensitive to miner related noise so I needed a lot of damping.
I had one unused S5 and fixed Arctic F12 to inlet side and S1 fan to outlet. F12 is 3 pin fan and miner beebed so outlet fan is connected to fan1 connector and inlet to fan2. Outlet fan 1560rpm inlet 1200, 20% fan percentage, temps 63 and 59C, room temp about +20C at floor.
S5 has miner packing foam at bottom and top is covered with ESD plastic.
Power is from pair of parallel DPS600 server powers adjusted to 11,6V; 46db about 1m up from mainer; 350Mhz 1134Ghs avg 5days from last boot, 0,0256% errors.
Miner is V1.3 it don't like undervolts below 11,3V.
 
540W from wall with 2 x DPS600 maybe one would be enought voltage is adjuted so little.
Edit2: S5 took the same power with one DPS, interesting result these powers work very well together when current share pin is connected.
jr. member
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I sure hope you're underclocking this thing, those two fans aren't gonna keep an S5 cool enough if ambient temps start to get higher.
newbie
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Best fan!

http://www.enermax.co.uk/fans/twisterstorm/


159 cfm,  38 decibels, 3500 rpm


also, i think the other fans they make are the slickest looking ones i've seen
legendary
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2009 Alea iacta est
Noctua NF-F12 IndustrialPPC 3000RPM PWM 120mm High Performance Fan  x 2 ( push-pool )

Conceived for industrial heavy duty applications that require enhanced cooling performance and advanced ingress protection, the NF-F12 industrialPPC (Protected Performance Cooling) is a ruggedised high-speed version of the award-winning retail model. Thanks to the outstanding aerodynamic efficiency of the NF-F12 design and the use of a novel three-phase motor, the industrialPPC version provides superior airflow and pressure capacity while keeping noise levels and power consumption moderate as against comparable high-speed fans. While its fibre-glass reinforced polyamide construction and certified water and dust protection make the NF-F12 industrialPPC suitable for operation in challenging environments, the renowned SSO2 bearing technology guarantees an MTBF of over 150,000hrs. Topped off with Noctua's trusted reliability and six year manufacturer's warranty, the NF-F12 industrialPPC is an ideal choice for highly demanding applications that require superior flow rates and ultimate dependability

Features:
- Based on the award-winning NF-F12 design
- 3000rpm PWM industrialPPC version
- Three-phase motor design
- Fibre-glass reinforced polyamide construction
- Certified IP52 water and dust protection
- Integrated Anti-Vibration Pads
- Six year warranty

Specification:
- Size: 120x120x25 mm
- Connector: 4-pin PWM
- Bearing: SSO2
- Blade Geometry: Heptaperf
- Frame Technology: FocusedFlow
- Rotational Speed (± 10%): 3000 RPM
- Airflow: 109.8 CFM
- Acoustical Noise: 43.5 dB(A)
- Static Pressure: 7.63 mm H2O
- Max. Input Power: 3.6 W
- Max. Input Current   : 0.3 A

JUST PERFECT!


http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=80&lng=en
full member
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Wanted to contriboot.
The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit.
I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit
Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there.

Much happier with that.

What do you mean by "6 x 3 pin fan board"? The fans are not powered by the S5 itself?

Correct. Molex to 6 x 3 pin. The adapters are around $3 and they don't rev up and down just constant speed.
newbie
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Wanted to contriboot.
The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit.
I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit
Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there.

Much happier with that.

What do you mean by "6 x 3 pin fan board"? The fans are not powered by the S5 itself?
newbie
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look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people.

Clueless ?? It's dogie man! You should take time to read a little bit more the forum and learn about what your talking about.

Dogie is highly respected in the community for evaluation of all kind of miner.


ya, clueless.

go look the the tear down and see what is and is not covered by the heatsinks and fan...then talk....
full member
Activity: 179
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Wanted to contriboot.
The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit.
I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit
Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there.

Much happier with that.
newbie
Activity: 45
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One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?..

Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s.  Wink

Temperature from 40 degrees to 60+ degrees can up power consumption by 10+ %
legendary
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Bitcoin / Crypto mining Hardware.
An even cheaper mod would is to trick the temp sensors into lowering fan speed to the lowest range.

full member
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https://eloncity.io
chances are we are most likely experiencing this setup with the S5s.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/antminer-s1-thermal-performance/
full member
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Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner...


No. I like get btc for free, luckyflop is signature campain.
I put those little money into altcoins so it is form of gamble Smiley

I have setup >200 standalone miners, some farms, i got very big experience with variety of miners, chips etc.
Only few of my miners died, coincidentially dragons and ccdesks. I have modded large chunk of my stuff for fun and noise reduction.



If it's fun, and it works for you, great. But the mod you suggested is risky, you do acknowledge that? If so, it can't hurt to point that out so that others know what risk they're taking by running at higher temps.
hero member
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cryptoshark

Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner...


No. I like get btc for free, luckyflop is signature campain.
I put those little money into altcoins so it is form of gamble Smiley

I have setup >200 standalone miners, some farms, i got very big experience with variety of miners, chips etc.
Only few of my miners died, coincidentially dragons and ccdesks. I have modded large chunk of my stuff for fun and noise reduction.

hero member
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Nice...

by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. Smiley

see for your self:
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

chapter: 4Electrical Character
section: 4.2.


have a nice day Smiley and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!

If you actually do some 'research', you may find about the Arrhenius equation and the relationship between temperature and failure ratehttp://reliawiki.com/index.php/Arrhenius_Relationship.  Failure rate increases exponentially with temperature (in Kelvin).  As Dogie pointed out, using the maximum specified junction temperature of the ASIC as if it was the ambient temperature and applied to all components is flawed.  I totally agree with Aurel's graphic that you need to get your RMA forms ready (just to be rejected by any sensible supplier who would claim that you operated well outside the specified envelope). 

Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner...

Cheers
newbie
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80dba+ stock fan.... running like a mofo...

will go find some other fan tomorrow
full member
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look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people.

It may run at those temps fine now, but higher temps will likely degrade performance over time. That might not have been a big deal before when we were seeing double digit difficulty increases, but difficulty has been relatively flat for a couple months now. I'd underclock like others have suggested ... taking off 100-150Ghs seems worth it to keep it running longer.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people.

 70 c is a bit high.

 50 to 64 c would be a better bet.


 If I ran your fans I would downclock to freq 300-325.

have to say the noise level is good.


full member
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^^^^^^^
That's pretty funny. Dogie's guides are for noobs. I never found his guides to be useful, sure they're in high definition and big ass pictures. But, the contents are a bit lacking. Just because someone's popular doesn't mean he's perfect for everyone. I personally don't need big ass pictures, I'd like more info. Big ass pictures don't do anything for me, without proper written guides.
legendary
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look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people.

Clueless ?? It's dogie man! You should take time to read a little bit more the forum and learn about what your talking about.

Dogie is highly respected in the community for evaluation of all kind of miner.

sr. member
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Mine, a pair has been running at 70 C low to 76C high for a week, less than 10 HW errors every day.
newbie
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look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people.
legendary
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Nice...

by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. Smiley

see for your self:
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

chapter: 4Electrical Character
section: 4.2.


have a nice day Smiley and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!

I said this in the other thread, 125C is a TJ, the sensor you're reading is likely on the PCB and so when its reading 70C, its probably 120C on the actual chip. Do your own research before asking others to do their research when your advise may be catastrophic for their products.

Thanks for the clarification. Smiley
Actually Gprime31 is 1 post account so  Tongue
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
Nice...

by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. Smiley

see for your self:
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

chapter: 4Electrical Character
section: 4.2.


have a nice day Smiley and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!

I said this in the other thread, 125C is a TJ, the sensor you're reading is likely on the PCB and so when its reading 70C, its probably 120C on the actual chip. Do your own research before asking others to do their research when your advise may be catastrophic for their products.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
Nice...

by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. Smiley

see for your self:
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

chapter: 4Electrical Character
section: 4.2.


have a nice day Smiley and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!

Nice link thanks you.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Nice...

by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. Smiley

see for your self:
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

chapter: 4Electrical Character
section: 4.2.


have a nice day Smiley and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better

DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!!
hero member
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cryptoshark
If anybody is intersted with those fans i can order them and reship for you.

AAB is polish company and i live in poland so it is not a problem for me.

Price will be 30$ for pair shipped Smiley
no $ margin for me, just tips

to BitmainWarranty

20cm from miner it is 54dB, 50cm 43 dB
you can sleep near thoose fans no problem Smiley

S5 is hashing 40 hours with no issues.

maybe you should consider cooperation with AAB and ship unit with thoose fans ?

legendary
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legendary
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s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms Smiley

24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius

very quiet and stable.
for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$)
it is worth Smiley

There are plenty of things on that board that require cooling other than the chips themselves. Won't someone please think of the non-chip components?
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
Interesting fan, have you compared it with GT1850 ?
legendary
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I love winter!  Grin
15 dba
One tube
http://www.rona.ca/images/0082101_L.jpg

and 350M

temps 55 52   Grin
legendary
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@ bbxx!

What is the decibel level now?Huh?



It's 45 dB now according to OP.
donator
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@ bbxx!

What is the decibel level now?Huh?



s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms Smiley

24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius

very quiet and stable.
for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$)
it is worth Smiley
hero member
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cryptoshark
s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms Smiley

24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius

very quiet and stable.
for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$)
it is worth Smiley
legendary
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One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?..

Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s.  Wink
One thing to keep in mind is its just not the temp of the ASICs themselves thats important but the VRM's and if the VRM's dont get enough cooling, those things will light up like fireballs.
That is unless they over engineered the VRM and it runs nice n cool, but on bitcoin mining ASICs thats hardly ever the case, they cheap around any corner they can.
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?..

Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s.  Wink
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
170 m3/h is around 100 cfm.

Its low for the S5. This is why your temp is around 65. You should try to get below 60. (IMO)

But nice setup! 100 cfm for 20 db is pretty nice.  Grin


45 dba. Its worth pointing out that the temps are above what would be considered acceptable, even with a 20C ambient and so these particular fans won't be appropriate for most.
legendary
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170 m3/h is around 100 cfm.

Its low for the S5. This is why your temp is around 65. You should try to get below 60. (IMO)

But nice setup! 100 cfm for 20 db is pretty nice.  Grin
hero member
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cryptoshark
Hi

I was annoyed with stock fans at antminer S5. They are too loud.
I bought 2x AAB 15-blade 9dB fans.

They are looking great. Good performance and perfect quality.
It stabilised S5 at 65 celsius (20 intake), and gives only 45dB (from 0.5 m)

They cost about 8$
http://aab.com.pl/pl/p/AAB-Cooling-Silent-Jet-Fan-12-PWM/1702

There is video of my mod:
http://youtu.be/7TANw6DeIy0

some photos:





after hour of hashing temps are ok Smiley



feel free to copycat Smiley
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