Topic: Fixed matches group in 3rd world countries (Read 484 times)

Fixed matches in cock fighting seems impossible but it's also happening, especially if you put something on your cock just to feel weak. Well, if there's a big money involve it can always influence the other. Those spam messages are not offering a fixed matches, its a scam and forcing you to believe on their strategy or advise, it's good that you don't give them the attention or else they can easily get some money from you.

It is a no brainer. People playing in the biggest leagues and within the most important teams of the world do not have anything to gain by getting corrupted and partake in match fixing, they already have a lot of money, followers and mucho of the luxuries most of us will never touch. So when comes to gambling, it is better to stick to the biggest leagues/tournaments and the teams with the highest levels of prestige.
New players and in smaller leagues are easier to corrupt, because they  could be going though a moment in their lives in which they do not see much of a window for them to reach the high level of star players, so they partially give up on their dream and sell their will and reputation to the highest bidder: the mafias and crime organizations.

Maybe, that is why I only like to bet in the leagues of the size of the World cup, the Copa America... etc. and never do when comes to regional or even national matches, this is a very corrupt country, and I don't doubt some people in power here have ties with match fixers aka (criminals)

Of course we often comment that gambling is based on luck. However the undeniable fact is that as from that it doesn't fully depend on luck. Winning and losing are things that benefits either the gambler in question or the casino. A casino will eventually shut down if their customers are winning more than they can fund , and like wise they will also shutdown sooner if no one is able to hit their wins. Therefore both have to be balanced evenly to avoid either the gamblers or the casino running into consecutive losses.

Many a time I have come across discussions where people are of the opinion that some huge casinos partner with teams before games to be able to predict a majority of the most important aspects of the game thus putting them on a safer side.  I am however not sure how true it is but I think if possible it would be more common in friendly games than more serious games and matches.

Yeah a lot of this type fixed matches are in here in my place especially in cock fighting that is why you should be vigilant and double check if it really is a legit match because if you fall victim in one of these then you just wasted your money.

On the other hand, there are a lot of spammers online sending messages randomly asking if we are willing to make money with their strategy but I just ignored them mostly they're from Telegram, Facebook and in text messages from random contact numbers too. I don't even bother clicking links they sent as it could be malicious links or phishing links. Yeah I am in a third world country and this modus is quite common here so I just blocked them immediately. Maybe they are offering the same fixed matches thing but I am not interested on it since I am afraid if things will be compromised.

I saw my friend a few days ago and asked him again regarding this Facebook group. Unfortunately, it's the summer now, and there are no available matches anymore. I wanted to see if such matches are available at cryptocurrency casinos such as Stake or Rollbit. My friend claims he managed to make a reasonable sum of money through these bets and also told me that the group's manager has inside information from some locals in these countries and that he pays a quite large amount of money to receive this information.

The money was distributed through Revolut, something that sparkled with me because they have all your details, including your tax identification number, unless they're using someone else's details. Who knows? I'll try joining again in the upcoming league, although that's quite far from now, and perhaps see what this is all about.

Fixed matches can occur everywhere in the world. With lower divisions that gets very little attention it's easier to determine the entire outcome of the matches but as it gets more popular the chances are from soon to zero so they switch to determining other stats of the match, number of yellow cards, fouls and corners, which player will get a yellow and so on.

The risk is much higher for professional players, but for semi professionals, they have more to potentially gain than lose.

I still haven't gotten together with my friend to gain more information about the group. However, I tried reaching out to him today about it, and he told me that the group's administrator gave me the exact scores to bet on a specific match, which yielded great results, as you can also see from the screenshot below. Is this luck, a coincidence, or actually insider information? Who knows? It's definitely intriguing, though. I'll try to get to the bottom of this and report back as soon as I have more information, hopefully soon.

And even if the person that made those claims is in fact part of that circle of people, why would anyone want to have any relationship with them? After all they will have to be criminals that are either intimidating or bribing coaches, referees and players, and you do not want to be around those people as you will not know when they could decide to victimize you instead.

While on the other hand if those people were lying then you are dealing with a scammer, so regardless of the scenario in place you are the one that suffers at the end.

First, Match fixing exist. Especially in very low leagues of countries outside Europe. I believe it's also done in European leagues but it has to be on way lower divisions because there are no much eyes there.
Secondly, 99.9% of people that claim to have fixed matches for selling or for free are liers. When a match is fixed, they don't make that information public, it stays within a small circle of all those involved, so for you to have that information you're either part of that circle or have a source that gives you that information.
That particular guy may be among the 0.01% that have a legit source of fixed matches.

While you join you have to tread with caution don't rest on the words of your friend. It takes smart people to know how to deal with these platforms which is why some users that join do exit with the money after a one time trial that worked well for them, and they might be doing that out of a bad experience from other similar platforms.

 Weak systems create room for corrupt practices even under the nose of the said authorities because they do have a stake in those corrupt acts sonthey just sit back and do nothing. Any renowned casino that values their reputation and is submissive to fairness will never want to have anything to do with such matches in their platform, except for those that are
 dubious.

I'm in the process of trying to join; I just haven't had the time to meet up with my friend due to different work schedules. I'm also amused by that, and he even told me that there were a few rare instances where the users took the betting money and left the group. I still can't be 100% certain about all this if I don't see it with my own eyes. In terms of consequences now, I do have my doubts. I mean, in such countries, authorities are often non-existent. Who's going to bother with a few fixed matches? In the worst-case scenario, the casino starts banning users and potentially matches from such countries.
Certainly, it's you who's appearing to be gambling, and these casinos have all your personal details, things can easily take a turn for the worst. The so-called administrator is unlikely to face any trouble because h's likely to be using an account with fake details, while it could also be a way to launder money.

This is something that could be considered as red flag, because this only means that they want to use your identity to place a bet on their behalf. Most probably, the casino requires KYC verifications If I'm not mistaken.
If they are truly involved in a fixed matches, then they will literally need other people to get involved than risking themselves getting caught doing it personally.
The only thing we need to remember, if someone wants to use our account, our identity on any platform, that means a red flag because these people are trying to use you to either do illegal stuff that they don't want to get themselves involved into or they are trying to abuse the TOS of that specific platform.
This for sure will entice a lot of people to let the other people use their identity as they can get a portion of the winning.

I wonder where that admin gets the signals from because if the signals he shares are 100% correct and work all the time, I'm sure he has connections with boards that are holding tournaments or has connections with those who are fixing those matches because it is not possible for someone random to be able to guess that many correct outcomes and for them to have such knowledge if it's true.

You are right that it is too good to be true because the ones who are getting those signals from the admin can make a lot of money from them just like how your friend is doing it. Have accounts in multiple platforms and make bets with different amounts in each platform if you are sure that you are going to win the bet, this can make one rich in no time but I doubt it will work in the long run.

While starting to gamble I have joined several groups that offers some fee tips but most of those free tips are not more than 2,3 odds and if any of those free tips are up to 50 odds that means the bets have a higher chance of loss. It's shocking that those telegram groups that offers booking codes have a section for their VIP customers and even those VIP games are not guaranteed.
Some of these groups are scam and there are a lot of gamblers that are lazy to make their own predictions that's falling for those traps.

You could have confirmed his words by joining the group to experience things for yourself to be sure if these things are true as he speaks. What amuses me is that the administrator of the group has to give each group member the money to use for his bet to later get back a percentage after the bets are won. That admin must be a good businessman 

I am aware about  these unpopular leagues competitions getting regular fix matches but still they don't get that easy to find  and a lot of so-called scammers uses this medium to extort lazy gamblers that are after cheap means of getting sport bet wins. Getting the right source to info about fixed match is 1/10, because of the consequences that can follow with if discovered.

If anything i would say am even suprised to see that such group are actually legit and active in the first place because from my experience I believe all the once I have seen are all scam and they all have this particular way of their organization although yours that was legit might be different but for the ones I have encountered you probably have to pay the person offering the service some pay up cash at front before he then offers you the game and from what I know they can give different prediction to different person and later on post on their channel only the one that actually worked out.

I have only come across similar terms like this but not on the line that the entity would fund you to do the bets.
I am only experienced on the side that an entity in the social media who claims to have a sure bet demanding an agreement that if you will be giving the game to play, you will give them their percentage after winning.
Sometimes they would ask you to stake the game with a particular amount so that the winning value can be higher because the strategy is the higher the winning value is the higher the percentage the gets in return.

But one thing is sure that they are pure scammers because they only authorizes winning post to be displayed to the public view just to attract more more.
Meanwhile... Each participants is inboxed privately with different predictions strategically to avoid public disrupts arguing about their partialities.

To be honest, it sounds too good to be true, and I'd prefer not to get involved in something scammy. I talked to my friend on Friday and said I could possibly join, but he advised against it because of my limited knowledge of sports betting. I do know some stuff, but it's mostly limited to my country's Super League for now, and I decided not to push it just yet. I was also afraid that it might work in a few cases and become greedy, until eventually it doesn't and gets screwed off, which is why I have avoided it so far. I was to see him today, but due to some personal issues, I couldn't; otherwise, I'd try to obtain more information and perhaps an invitation.

I tried to be in a group of signals but of sports betting, where it was pure scams, it was where supposedly a woman who was previously a referee, she handled privileged information about football matches, and that they promised to win a lot of money and that she made the bets and that I earned a lot, from there I got a lot of money and that was very good, but then I saw that the original woman was on her networks saying that they do not trust some people who pretended to be her so that they could scam money, so then I don't trust them anymore in group, they have tried to scam me many times, that's why I don't trust them for those things.

Your reason are same as mine, that's why many find it hard to join sporting bets that predict more of bets for them because they will end up being carried away to being dependent on them for strictly making money, which they will be scammed someday, or lose a large sum of money because they will be tempting to bet hugely on a particular bet given to them since we humans are natural greedy when we involved ourselves with money that we didn't stress to get

Many of these signals are based on chance of luck. It is just like winning today and losing tomorrow that is why one has to be very careful how we become so confidence about the signal bets we are getting and how much risk we are taking. If you want to make money from football signal group, it is better we go for free groups we can join and make some quick profit rather than trying hard for join expensive groups that would be demanding money for all bets. We need to understand what bet we are betting on and the level of the risk we need to take so that we don't have to keep losing money for nothing from bad signal bets.

To be honest, there is only one logical explanation to those kinds of groups in which I can think of from the top of my head. That is likely a money laundering scheme.
The administrator is part of a criminal syndicate or something, that way he manages to know the results of the fixed matches. Since they criminal organizations is earning money from it (and probably from other illegal activities) it is likely they have found out giving money to people and guiding them to bet in exchange for a slice of the money is a clever idea to hide the origin of the money if you think about it.

The money is given to the people though an on-chain transaction, then the people deposit the money onto the casino, since they are relatively small amounts the casino does not get triggered by those deposits. The people bet on the fixed game and take the money out again for them and for the administrator, the dinisntrator ends up receiving money which is completely untethered to the original tokens he used to pay the gamblers. After all the process is finished, the money launderers have thousands of dollars which can be deposited in an exchange without being linked to a tainted address, those stayed in the casino.

That is my opinion...

They might have their reasons for doing that, probably to spread out the bets so they won't be noticed. But my real concern is that the bettors are given money by the mastermind of the syndicate and then expected to share the winnings. Isn't it also skeptical that someone, the capitalist, is willing to lend that money to bettors without assurance that it will be used according to purpose?

Well, I have joined in a lot of fixed match groups both on Facebook and telegram, and for some, even on WhatsApp, but I've never come across any group where the admin of that group is the one distributing the money the members of that group us for betting on the fixed matches provided by the admin himself.
And I am sorry to say but this is hard to believe, I mean that I can't believe this to be true until I see and possible join this particular group myself.

And to the above, I would like to ask you why you have not joined the group?, atleast, you should tell your friend to give you the link to join the group, then join and confirm things for yourself, that is, be sure that your friend told you about this group is the truth, and possibly, try it out and tell us your own personal experience and not what your friend told you.

Nothing surprising, third world countries are poor and they don't mind to trade titles for money.

But I doubt someone want to publicity the fixed match for free, why they need to tell it to other people when they alone can advantage over it and bet as much as possible to earn maximum profit?

I'm really skeptic with people who offer to make more money.

Even if the method works, I suggest everyone not engaging in fixed matches bets, because it's cheating. People involved on the scheme aren't being scammed, but they are scamming the fools on the other side who believe the games are fair and legit. This is dirty money for the winners.

It's up to each one to believe it or not, but dirty money doesn't bring anything productive to us. The group's administrator isn't trying to help anyone to earn money. He is simply decreasing the risks of losing big money through an account ban, so he uses a hundred of strawmen to place small bets for him, then he profits on the quantity of bets made, from many different casinos' accounts which are managed by his strawmen.

it's probably deleted but I doubt the guy who created that thread got banned, as far as I know, posting something like that is not a bannable offence. anyway, throughout the years offers like that sometimes pop up on the gambling board and are always greeted with disdain and suspicion of being a scam(which it most likely is).

MAAManda's point is accurate; this whole story sounds like the so-called entrepreneurs you find on social media boasting how much money they make, and they can teach you as well, for the amount of $X. Who in the right mind would share their niche in making money and risk saturating it? However, this story sounds a bit different; the administrator is supposedly banned from casinos and is using other users to his advantage, while he remains mostly anonymous. Although this might as well be an excuse, there's the possibility it contains some grain of truth.

I find this whole case quite sketchy. Even if my friend is appearing to make a reasonable amount of money, I also feel like something is off. Will it be a purposely wrong bet in order to make the exit scam, or will I get in actual trouble for participating in such matches? Who knows?

I have come across such groups a few times especially on telegram and I'm aware that most of them are fraudulent and such that we shouldn't put our funds into because its most definitely going to result in us probably getting to loose our funds to the casino and and in some cases the administrators of such groups of which after such games must have probably come to an end we may not get to even be able to keep in touch with such admins as they will have abscond and probable exit the group s reaching them becomes almost not possible.

some of these country with leagues that aren't popular can most likely get manipulated but not any that I'm sure will be such that will be brought to the casino because they know if many persons are aware of the manipulations and play then they are defiantly going to place a bet on such games which is goin to cause the casino to loose a whole lot of funds.

I live in a developing country and yeah, fixed matches happen here but don't expect that someone will tell you the result of the fixed match in exchange for some bucks. Matches are fixed in a very inner circle that only club owners, players and sometimes coaches know and they make bets themselves. Just imagine, what if you sell a fixed match and a spy or an agent buys it? Can you imagine how big of a risk it is? By hiring a spy and agent, many fixed matches were leaked in my country and those who were trying to fix the match, ended up in prison for years. Don't get lied, no one will tell you real fixed matches, it's such a huge risk for them for such a low amount of money that it doesn't really worth to spend years in prison.

Totally true, that these groups are close knit because this is a big issue once it becomes a thing that's presented to the wrong people, you end up with a full investigation on the matter of match fixing and if you're unlucky that you don't know any friends in high places then it's going to be a full blown investigation. I don't think you're telling the truth about not joining these groups though, it's a really exclusive group and the money behind it is probably too tempting to turn away anyway, you're probably going to have to join by force anyway because you already know about it, for me, if it happens to me, I'll just enjoy the show and join.

I figure trying don't cause too much harm if you go in with reasonable hopes.  MAAManda raises a good point too - if these people really had solid info that works, they'd just be using it themselves and raking in the cash.  So before you even think about joining, make sure to watch your back.  Maybe use fake profiles you don't care about getting banned or something. Just be careful because if it sounds too good to be true, it always is.  And these sport betting sites will slam that ban hammer down fast if they catch a whiff of you using some service to try beating them.

Ultimately it's your call.  If you try it, go low-risk.  But something tells me you already know better than to bet big on questionable tips from Internet strangers.  In the end, trust your gut bet what you can lose, and don't expect miracles.

Good luck either way though!

Fixed matches might exist, but I haven’t seen any before. If a match is fixed, do you think it’s going to be taken to social media to make it public that the match is fixed? If a match is fixed, then it should be something that will be done hidden. People who fix it will just decide to place a bet on it, and they will make their money, but if they are caught, there is punishment for that. Any fixed matches that you see marketing on social media are scams, if a match is fixed, it won’t be taken to social media.

I have heard about it before, but I haven’t experienced any fixed match before. There are lots of groups like that on telegram and WhatsApp, they will keep on editing people's winning slips, and they will be posting it claiming they won their bet, but all that is just to motivate people to pay and join their group. If they were having fixed matches, they should have been rich, and they wouldn’t be begging people to join their group.

Beforenow, I have talked about one Twitter account that someone referred me to some years ago. The guys that have that account usually post free games, and people collect those games and stake, which usually turn out successful for them. After you win, he will upload the ticket on his page. He also has a VIP section for people who want to pay for games that they believe are 80–90% sure. 

I can no longer remember the name of that Twitter handle. I don't trust any of those fixed match groups; those guys are very manipulative, and they can actually fudge fake winning tickets to make you believe that there is really a lot of winning going on, while it's not true. 

He has no interest in scamming people because he is exposing himself by giving away money, he is in a position of not being able to make money on his own, if he tries this with one account or just with his friend's bookies will immediately see that 20 guys from city x are betting on the same stupid game from a 4th league in Zanzibar while nobody else in the whole 100 million country does so which is an instant red flag and furthermore is not having his name anywhere. He sends people money and he gets money back,his name is on no casino/sport betting site, he is not gambling he is just a guy on the internet, the ones actually putting the bets are the ones risking getting banned, that's why he needs a ton of them.

It's illegal and it won't last long for the guys doing the actual betting if they are not smart but it's not really a scam, if we were to label cammers those would be the players that fix these matches, not the mules in the scheme.The best comparison would be large drug dealers they need smaller one to do the distributing, they can't do it without them and they have no intention to sell them bad merchandise as it would ruin them too, plus is the street dealers who are risking the most.

Unfortunately, these schemes exist, the fixed matches do so and the worst is that is still quite a lucrative business,so it will go on for quite a while.
That why I don't bet on tennis matches, any other single player event or 2nd 3rd league events.
Even my favorite sort, horse racing is a bit harder to fix, you can have your horse flop so he will lose, but you will never be sure who will win instead! 

I'm willing to, but I haven't had the opportunity yet. I'll probably discuss it with my friend next week. I'm fully aware that money doesn't grow on trees, and something that sounds too good to be true probably isn't. I've never joined any signal groups in the past, simply because I don't trust them. Why would anyone give information when they could use it themselves? This case seems different a little from what we're used to, but that doesn't make it legit in the long run. Even if I involve myself in the group, it would still be reasonable to be skeptical about it. Just because it works now and pays doesn't mean it's going to in the next one or two months; that's exactly how Ponzis' work.

There’s a lot of fixed matches especially on lower league of 3rd world countries since sports committee in there is not that strict on enforcing security for the teams including corruption and inside job.

This is the reason why casino often offer lower odds on minor leagues since there’s some abuse happening on some country which casino offer with their books. Your friend is lucky to find a group that has a sharer that only require voluntary profit to source while typically there’s a premium fee when you enter to this group aside from profit sharing.

Okay, unless that, because initially I was thinking maybe it's the total amount that was shared and not the profit, because if it's actually only the profit, then it means such strategy is likely to work. But one thing whoever happens to be a member of that group should know is that such strategy don't last long, as I have this feeling, the admin in that group will one day stop giving free games after he/she may have built his/her trust with all members in that group, and as such start selling his game at an exorbitant amount, which may lead to scam.

Fact: Because one thing we should all know is that all platform, groups that are reported to be scam today were one genuine, but as time goes on, they started scamming people, and as such don't ever trust any platform/group you happen to be a member today 100%. Thanks

Until you try it directly and explain the experience, I'll never believe the Telegram or Facebook groups you're referring to. The basic reason is from my experience of gambling on football since high school and joining many betting signal groups, but none of them are truly legit, back to the words that I think make the most sense as to why they're a scam are "simply if they ( admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves".

Yes, I heard about that groups in social media but I never believe it. I prefer to analyze by myself than depends on that groups because we never knows if they can gives a right information and that can makes us get lose the money. I also not believe when someone tells me that they can helps me to double my money in a short time, especially in gambling because gambling is not a place to make money. If they can gives the right information to people, why they don't use that for their own goods because human is greed and they will use something that can benefits them before they gives to other people. But we can't stops people from joining that groups because every people will have their own decision but they must knows what's the risks so they can thinks twice before decides.

That's what I also believed until I saw it with my eyes; however, that doesn't mean it's not a scam, at least not yet. If it wasn't for my close friend and seeing it in person, I'd call it bullshit as well. As I've also mentioned earlier, I wouldn't doubt if the group's administrator persuades everyone to bet on a specific match and proceed to exit the scam  by giving the wrong information and without distributing money as well. We can't be sure just yet; only time will tell.
There's certainly the risk of getting banned from the casino; I'm not sure if there are going to be any repercussions. Being caught once with a few fixed bets is unlikely to get you into too much trouble, but it's always best to not be involved altogether.

I think that the fixed matches odds are over 30 as they know the correct result most likely,they happen in 7th or 8th divisions of Denmark and Norway or league similar to those and these are developed countries,not 3rd world countries,the problem is that the persons who fix the game know only by themselves and bet by themselves the maximum allowed in a sport book.These who offer 1.7 and over 2 odds I guess they are just what they call "tipsters" and the one that does not fit in my picture is how come they pay you money to bet,that is out of my understanding yet I am sure there should be some catch here.

I don't think so, most of them are scammer may be 95%+ . Don't believe on those scammers groups, I have seen lots of telegram group and channel that they are giving free betting signals and as well as also the trading signals but the most interesting things is their followers or members are high amounts but those are hidden. But they are continuously showing that their customers reviews that the user are getting profit from their signal here I noticed that there is no way to see or give them negative feedback they just bought the members. So I have no doubt about they are scammers. So always be aware of these and don't get into trap
 

This is the most legit way of having an info on the fixed match because you are given money to bet and you'll just getting shared with the winning. No risk on your side, unless you got caught for this illegal activity. Other people are offering it differently, they want you to subscribe to their group and you'll have to pay just to get a fixed matches info, those are so called outright scams.

Those groups exist, as it is way easier to fix matches of relatively unknown teams and leagues, since criminals can just intimidate a few people and get what they want, however in order to hide their activities from casinos they need hundreds of people to make those bets.

So using groups on social media seems like an obvious step to recruit people, still your friend needs to be careful, because I am sure those are very dangerous people and you should never invite them to your life no matter how tempting their offer could be.

That's interesting, another user also mentioned it previously, I'm guessing the thread is deleted and the user is already banned.
This was my main question: which websites feature these matches? I was surprised that there were sites such as Novibet or Bwin, major casinos, that ask for KYC and have your personal details on hand. My question was if such matches were featured in cryptocurrency casinos found here, such as Rollbit, Stake, Roobet, etc., in which it would be easier to hide and avoid KYC, up to some degree at least.
To be honest, I highly doubt that it's going to get that out of hand to be faced with criminal charges. Although I understand it's illegal, I believe that it's too exaggerated from the side of the gambler, the administrator could is way more likely to get in trouble. Generally, it's best to avoid such situations where it sounds too good to be true.

I agree with your observation that many Facebook or Telegram groups that lure individuals with promises of huge profits through fixed match information turn out to be scams. While some may attract attention, it's best to be careful.

The statement by your friend who is part of a Facebook group with around 100 members that the organizers provide money for betting on certain matches does sound intriguing. Additionally, the odds offered usually range from 1.7 to 1.8 with big wins. But the need to share profits with group admins and face potential account bans highlights significant weaknesses and risks that require attention.

Personally, I have never found this group, nor have any intention of joining it. While there are benefits to be had, the risks and possibility of fraud don't dispel my doubts. My rule of thumb is to act cautiously and stay away from schemes that seem too good to be true.

There's good reason many sites don't feature matches from let's say Africa. When the stakes are very low and players are paid very little compared to international standards, it's very probable that the teams or even individual players will engage in match fixing. And in today's sports gambling, there's markets for everything, even who gets a red card, which an individual player can fix very easily even on his own. So instead of offering a sub-par experience to players with bad odds and restricted markets, many bookies will opt to never feature an entire league at all.

Of course match fixing has been alleged for bigger well paid leagues too and even the NBA. But in these cases on the rare occasion it happens, it gets discovered and followed by strict action. Maybe there's more that we don't know but at least from what I understand it's not anything crazy that could be happening as these leagues seem very competitive.

The profit is $70, they split and get $35 each and the user returns the admin the initial amount,  it's not like he's giving away free money, they just lend you the money to bet.


This won't work long, bookies have a ton of also running on their website, they will pretty soon catch upon users that suddenly out of the blue bet on 3rd league match and win then switch to a country they've never bet before and again throw a profit, they have hundreds of queries running on the bets and highlights out of ordinary stuff, especially if your winning and not losing.
You can stay a bit under the radar if you go and bet on one fixed match in the 3rd league in Panama or god knows what while at the same time taking another complete gamble on another match in that league but hoping from country to country for just 1 match and winning bet will instantly trigger flags

 

In the early days that I was introduced to sports betting, I had a run-in with several fixed matches groups like the one OP mentioned. On one of those occasions, there's one the admin gave us one of such fixed matches for free citing that it is "Free for confidence" and subsequent games will need to be paid for. What's surprising is that the free fixed game came out right. The right result. The right score. After proceeding to collaborate with a friend to afford the buy-in fees, subsequent bets all lost.

My perception about fixed matches is that the ones advertised on Facebook are fake and if there are fixed match at all, it won't get shared in a Facebook group.

Man!, this is so easy, deposit, go to the football section, select the match where you want to bet and that's it, this is really like that,Then, why the people get so complicated with things like joining groups like those mentioneds(OP), and In reality for a few dollars, fair play corresponds to both parties, do not be part of those ecosystems, stay away, make an honest bet.

I have had and seen some of such groups before, and after some investigations, I noticed that most of them really do share some good matches, but not all the time.
 
The majority of them are just sharing some old games, and sometimes they share already-played games with some edited slips in order to lure in members to place bets on their games. Some actually do share games they believe they will play, but they are not ready to take the risk. That's why they offer it to someone they believe can. 
 
Some are not just about the money they want to earn from those who place bets on their predicted matches that they are after; sometimes, in some of the groups I have seen, the administrator also offers the registration link to the site that they claim has the highest odds and urges the members to register and place their bets there so that they can also get some affiliate benefits.

I hope that the people who are participating in this group of fixed matches will be wiser and leave the group because fixed matches are prohibited and from what I have read these fixed matches are considered crimes


source: https://www.sportsrec.com/consequences-match-fixing-8094396.html

In third world countries like my country, people who are caught betting on fixed matches are arrested and I believe that in many countries things work that way, which is why in my opinion it's not worth getting involved in things like that. like, firstly because it is a crime, secondly because the person will be banned from betting shops, thirdly because people from these groups should not be trusted, it could be that someone from the group reports it to the police and then the police reward the person who reported it and arrest everyone of the group

I haven't seen groups like this before, but I remember a guy here in the forum who posted a thread(not sure what happened to it, I can't find it, it probably got deleted) about offering fix matches but in return, he gets 50%(I am not if it is 50% or lower) of the winnings, I don't remember if the guy is the one going to provide the money with the bets or the person who took his offer. anyway, I don't haven't tried or even thought about of joining groups like this.

I just heard about this last night, but in a different way, signals in trading. I was also surprised that it does happen but the person who is doing it is not the real owner of the scheme. He is just being used and being paid in small amounts. All he has to do is follow the instructions of the owner and monitor it until there's an exit point. Signals are real but these are only for whales.

About the signals in small leagues, I think they are real too. Fixed matches or they already know what team will win that game because of the difference in talent in skills. Still, I would not join such things because it lacks the excitement part and it feels like I am cheating. I'd rather do p2p bet while watching a local league.

I've heard of these groups and this is not a new thing in gambling industry. In most instances, this idea is not working but if you happened to get into one which does, then that's good for you. I'd say no matter how good the odds are, don't go all in. Gambling is still gambling therefore risk will always be there. You'd come to a point that you will be willing to bet as much as you can because in most instaances, their predictions are good but this instance should be avoided.

I don't really believe that ll of the game or matches signal are fixed. It's more acceptable to think that admins of this groups are just good with predictions. Not all matches could be fixed as I believe. If they will claim all of the games are, then that would be a lie. I never also wanted to be included in these groups simply because it can also increase my drive to gamble and that's something I wouldn't want to happen; I just want to enjoy gambling as is regardless if I'm losing.

Not actually a group but friends of friends. So it's like yours with a network of people that they're just sharing the tips.

To be honest, if they've got good calls and real signals about matches, the admin and its friends or relatives should just make themselves rich by doing it.

But he understands that the risk is there and not every call will be a win so, it's better to get some portion from the money that he won't be risking if they win from the members that do understand the risk.

Yeah the group like that is exist, but now they cannot carry out this abuse on a massive scale because casinos/sportsbooks systems have also become more sophisticated.
Usually they do this on illegal local sportsbooks that never ask for a KYC.

Need a recommendation from someone in that group to be able to join them. Also, every new member must deposit some money, to make sure nobody will disappear after receiving the money to place a bet on a certain match.
Each member of the group must also prepare a bank account with different names for the deposit purpose.
Because once the acc get banned, the name of the bank account owner will be immediately blacklisted and share with other platforms.

Fixed matches in 3rd world countries is very possible but I don't think anyone ever really create a facebook group team and add some random internet strangers and share such a sensitive info with them. Matches that are fixed include players, coaches, sometimes the owners of both teams and this is done very secretly because if info about them gets leaked and there is a proof that match was fixed, they'll end up in prison for years. Don't trust those who tell you that they know fixed matches, that won't happen, they just know sports well and make bets very often and show you only the lucky tickets. If I watch football 24/7, I might make good sports bet and 7 out of 10 might be correct ticket but that doesn't mean I have access to fixed matches. Just forget it.

Even if I wanted to know what admin is really doing to turn this idea for him to profit, I wouldn't stick around to wait and get invited to that group. It has more red flags than the May Day parade. If it's laundering like how you suspect what the admin is doing, then you're going to be held liable when shit hits the fan.

But if you are already in the group, it could be too late. You might as well just bet using your own money outside of that bookie.  

There was someone posting fixed matches here that I was observing before but his thread was deleted if I remember correctly. I think he's posted 2 or 3 "predictions" and all of them were correct. I was planning to follow the next one but no post followed. I don't know if he's also banned or not.

I have heard or see for those people who are looking for those gamblers or someone who do have an account on a particular platform and would be giving out that capital and they are the ones who do make out some bets for them. I dont know on whats the criteria for this one considering that it would really be that a huge risks for someone who would really be tending to share up his balance to bet in behalf of him.
 In regarding about the bet selection then iit would really be in accordance with someones choice but if it turns out that the winning rate is high then it would be normal that it comes up into your mind that
those matches would really be that something fixed. If the platform itself do notice out something like this considering that they dont want for those users who do always win then this is the only risks
i could see that they would be locking up someones account but well it would really be just that depending on the situation because if it would really be that so damn shady if they would be locking up
the account because it does have that good winning rate. As for personal view, if it turns out that you are making money with those shared profits then its better not to complain at all since you arent
making use of your own funds in the first place.

The offer looks nice since you are not expected to pay any money to get the stakes rather they will give you the money to place the bet. This match-fixing arrangement is popular in low leagues in undeveloped nations and the last time I read that some players in the third-division league in Brazil were indicted and sanctioned for match manipulation. Players and officials in these lower leagues are noactivityd, hence they are prone to bribery and corruption. But this is not an excuse for engaging in this criminal. There are many of these prediction groups on social media but I will not try to use them because it is against the law and is a criminal activities that can lead to jail terms. Some of these platforms are run by criminals who can also scam people in the group so it is better to avoid them.

To be honest, the 50/50 share is a mistake from my end, my friend didn't specify what percentage is shared with the administrator, I don't know how I came up with that number, the maths don't match, you're right.
That's also a possibility, he's sending "dirty money" and receives back the laundered money with no ties back to him. I don't know how he's distributing the money yet, I'll try to gather more information and report back here.
I don't have a link, I'll try asking for more details from my friend and join the group if possible. The group is supposedly "invite only" for a selected number of people.

doesn't add up still. when he could get the whole amount by himself. but maybe OP should bring the link here for people to investigate and not us just guessing. but he must have been benefiting from all these and doesn't want to poop that party for doing so.

but fixed matches are being done in the top-level organization. they were once the maffia but turned into a federation or organization in sports who decides the outcome of who will be the champ and whos not.

It doesn't prove that the one who sponsor the bets will make profits at all and I am thinking of these whole scenario in different perspective like laundering money in the most organic way, that's what hit my mind when I read someone giving money to everyone and need to return a part of the profits in return and I am sure there will be a catch for the lost amount and sure the admin will compensate the losses with the profits of other bets so he even make no profit still he laundered the money via desperate gamblers, isn't it?

This sounds strange if I may say, because this is actually my first time hearing of this strategy whereby an admin provide a sure fixed game, share money to it's members to gamble and then share the profit 50/50.  Because if this is actually true just the way you explained, then it means the admin is literally losing money every single day, rather than gaining.

That is,
Imagine the admin shared $100 each to members to gamble with.
And the odd of the game was 1.7 odds.
They gambled and won $170 each
They share the profit 50/50 each, which is $85
Which means the admin probably would have lost $15 per individual. (I.e imagine you brought $100, and you got paid back $85). It literally doesn't make any sense.

However, I think the common fixed match strategy I have always heard is that an admin will provide the game, and instead of selling the game to gambler, he will rather give the game to trusted individuals to gamble it and then share the profit either 30/70% or 50/50% depending on the odd of the game. But just that most cases, this always turn out to be scams.

Your friend is a smart man to be doing that cover up regarding the fixed matches, it definitely is suspicious that your bets are only getting you wins so I get why he did that, it's also an instruction by the administrator probably. Regarding this situation that your friend is in, this is a syndicate that we're talking about and I don't know how but I've got a feeling that there's something much deeper regarding this and I think your friend might need to get out of this one because it's already probably being monitored by the authorities and you don't want to be caught red-handed doing what you're doing there, I also have this inkling that it's possible that this is a long con by the administration of that Facebook group, the money that they're investing so players can bet is too good to be true, either they're trying to find a lot of greedy people that will try and invest or bet and additional amount with their own money, we don't have an information about the website and the possibility that the admin might have some part into it.

No, I haven't, but I saw myself in the bets, the teams, and all the details, along with the win amounts. It was a handful of bets, and I find it hard to believe that it's all luck, especially if you see some scores, such as 0–7 in Tier C football in Guatemala or India. I'd be willing to try it for a short period of time for the sake of the community and report back; however, I don't want to risk my own money, of course. I'm not claiming that this is legit, and even if it yields money, it might be a well-run scam that slowly builds trust in an attempt to lure you into making a huge bet that's going to be a flop.
That's true; some of the money is supposedly funding the actual sources who came up with the fixed matches. Of course, all this information should be taken into account with a grain of salt.

It's no surprise that sports have fixing. The business of fixing the match or spot fixing would exist until people are able to bet on it. There are several ways fixing is done to gain profit from gambling. There are cases of gambling operators fixing the matches in order for them to have larger profit as well people fixing to earn on gambling website. The scale too differs, there were some case where whole of tournaments and teams were faked for manipulating gamblers. The fixing are much less in high profile team sports because it's both difficult, costly and risky as many players have lost their career on fixing.

First, if you haven't tried it directly then the wins you get in that group are still a possibility or luck. Information about matches being fixed isn't open information and is easily spread to the public. I've a friend who has an acquaintance who's a match fixer in a tier 3 football league. In fact, my friend couldn't get that information, because it was exclusive information that was only given to bookies.

Whatever it's about signals, never believe it, it's about luck and a little analysis skill that the admin gives you, simply if they (admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves.

That is true, fixed matches don't happen everyday. And if he is indeed giving signals on a regular basis, it may be more of his prediction of the matches and not being knowledgeable of fixed matches. Better not get envy of joining this type of group. It can easily turn to a mess. And that person is earning quite good money because he is not spending his own money, and yet is getting a share of 50% of your winnings. Maybe, he is just good in predictions as he knows very well the sports.

Yes I have heard about those one or two years back. But they were offering fixed matches in local Russian table tennis matches. I don’t know whether they were legit or not, but yes they were convincing many people through their story, how they hire players to lose a particular match and place bets against them. Yes fixing does happens, but if a group is providing these games on daily basis, then I highly doubt that these are fixed games. Fixing cannot happen every day with almost all the matches.

If these were something that catches my fancy I would have gone ahead to give it to trial since it is not my money that I would use. It's therefore at an element of truth to eat because the risk has been reduced. The only risk there is having my account banned. Is this a risk I will be willing to take? Fixed matches don't catch my fancy.

This comment reminds me of one of the blackjack movies where the professor who was banned from most of the casinos for counting cards recruited and trained his students to play in the casinos, make money and split the profit.

In the huge world of gambling, these kinds of groups exist exclusively, and information or access to them will not be easy to get. Fixed matches are not common, but they must exist, not only in third-world countries.

I will not be interested in joining these kinds of groups; I may become too dependent on them. It will remove the fun from sports betting and make me focus too much on strictly making money.

I'm not sure; to be honest, I don't know if it's a 50/50 profit split either; I don't recall if he told me. It sounds like a too-good-to-be true classic scam, but it is also the perfect way to get blacklisted from casinos. One idea is that in that way, he has 100 people betting for him and gets a decent cut from each win, something he possibly can't do himself. Perhaps if you're careful enough and don't get greedy over time, you might end up with a reasonable amount of money.
As far as I know, the casinos used are "centralized" ones, not cryptocurrency ones that sometimes don't even ask for KYC. They even deduct the income tax at withdrawal. My friend himself has made a few accounts with his friend's and family's details in case his own ends up banned.

Well I don't believe in signal groups to be sincere in their dealing but only to be business minded. If you are therefore thinking it is genuine then you can try it out.

However, regards to the winnings that you also felt could be genuine, I have also seen fake results pasted some times which are photoshopped.



This is the part where I could be thinking that the administrator maybe doesn't want his IP to be revealed as the one staking and so he opens it up to different bettors where he now collects the commission from the bet. This is if the fix match is genuine and he has seen it or has link on the revelation but warned or limited to a particular stake for his IP but in any means, I'm still doubtful that everything about this is genuine. Pay groups may not be genuine.

I don't get the point either. Sometimes the rigged matches are obvious in plain sight especially when someone peony is matched to Goliath. But the facebook group admin described by OP doesn't make sense.

What does he get from doing that stuff while he lets them wager using his money, he gets half and the user gets half.  
Did the casino ask KYC on those facebook group users? Because it seems to me there is a deeper scam behind it like using their names and pictures and FB profiles.

Technically, anything is possible. There is no doubt that there are fixed matches and sports betting manipulations. There's a whole underground betting scene, sure, but this situation with your friend reeks of a classic scam with a shiny new coat of paint.

High odds, 50/50 profit split? Red flags everywhere. If someone's "giving away" money on sure bets, why wouldn't they keep it all?  You say admin is banned from gambling platforms so he can't bet by himself, but what about his real life friends and family members? Instead he needs some FB "friends" to share the profits with? Where's the logic in that? I think this is a classic trick to build trust. They throw you a couple of wins to make it seem legit before the inevitable "big one" that disappears with all your "shared" profits.

The intentional losses are made by my friend himself; it's not an instruction from the so-called group. He'll bet on the Greek Super League, for instance, or some other completely random match, such as Liverpool vs. Everton. That way, he's also producing a few losses, so he doesn't flag the system, although he's aware that he may end up having his account banned. He involves both the administrator's money and his own, betting from another account to keep 100% of the winnings, along with the returns from the shared funds from the group. According to him, the administrator is banned from most casinos and is unable to bet himself, which is why he's sharing the fixed matches and having others bet for him.

I haven't tried it myself; I just learned about it yesterday evening, and to be honest, although it sounds too good to be true, I'd potentially test it with a bet or two, but not involving my own money. My friend however, has already won quite a few matches and has generated a decent amount of money.

Have you tried it often and they are winning? There are fixed matches but if those that fixed it are caught, they would be punished for it and they may lose their job. Scammers are plenty and using it to scam.

If it does not involve my own money like you said, maybe it is true, but I will not be interested to go for it. You said there are still losses but which might be intentionally selected by the people for the gambling site not to suspect anything but just like I said before, I am not interested.

I have not seen anything like it before. I hope this will not help the people that use it for scam to scam more people because some people will believe that fixed matches exist than scam ones until they are scammed again.

Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?