Topic: Football leagues to introduce 'sin-bin' & blue card for unruly players (Read 129 times)

Me too I can't really say that I agree with the concept of the blue card. It's a bit unbalanced but also some things need to be put into consideration too.
For instance, the strategic fouls that happen to end advantages the other team might take in the field really are something that doesn't get any specific punishment. So does pretending to get hurt. These things happen often in football because there's a low risk, high reward scenario that plays out usually if players use these things smartly.

If players do a foul that doesn't severely injure another player, or pretend to get hurt to get a free shot, they might get a yellow card, and if they're good for the rest of the match, they get off without any consequences. But this could be solved more easily if UEFA and FIFA for example gave out guidelines that for these occasions, even with the use of VAR, a red card can be given out. This way the team will have to use a substitution which also costs them, but won't be faces with forcibly playing with fewer players for 10 minutes. This solution also has its disadvantages because red card means the player misses the next match in many competitions, which is harsh.  

But this is much worse than yellow card and as you said, every team whose player is caught getting blue card can be very detrimental because the player must be sent off within the specified time.
Which is around 10 minutes and the match will continue with the only team contains 10 players.
We can see that the blue card has been implemented in English football and there are several players who have received it, maybe in the future there will definitely be controversy regarding the blue card but FIFA itself as the world football federation still has not approved it.
FIFA denies the existence of blue cards in major or elite competitions and currently I have no further confirmation regarding the news about blue cards, various media or news broadcasts about football that are really busy discussing blue cards are England.
There, trials are carried out in several lower class football events, but this will become part of football, although it cannot necessarily be applied in championships or big competitions.

I myself don't really agree with the implementation of blue cards because it can make the match less of an interesting competition, this would be the same as red card but the player is only out temporarily and makes the opposing team superior.
I think that blue card would be really detrimental if it was received by the goalkeeper, of course this makes other players replace the goalkeeper during time and that feels very ridiculous.

Ive read about this before and indeed it seems like the blue card is used only as a warning that they can play with 10 men if in the end there are some conditions that require a player to take action that can lead to a red card now but with the blue card it seems like this is an early warning that player cant act arbitrarily because the team they defend can lose because they get a card and with the blue card this is a reminder that players shouldn't overdo it either in communication problems with the referee or with some of the penaggarn that occurs.

I quite like this new regulation because after all this can be one way to make soccer more fairplay.This card can be lighter than a red card but stronger in effect than a yellow card.

Officiating is already bad enough without starting this blue card nonsense. Premier League referees and VAR have been terrible this season, they find it hard enough to carry out and oversee the current rules so this blue card thing is a big no from me.

Just leave the game alone, we don’t need any more changes.

Many players will be sure to get booked within the very first few weeks when this new law gets implemented. If any players issued the blue card and asked to take a break and then his team proceeds to play with 10 men within that time when they play with 10 men a lot can actually happen to them and they can concede goals that could lead them to losing the game entirely. How about coaches and managers or members of coaching staff that act unruly towards officials in a game? What will the blue card mean to them?

I do not like it, because referees will be even more pressured to not show a red card and the players will even try to make them change their decision on the field with more intensity, now if the blue card replaced the yellow card I think that would be better, because quite honestly the yellow card has no dissuasive effect at all, as a team can easily rotate the players that commit fouls, get a bunch of yellow cards and make the life of the other team impossible, but with a blue card instead of a yellow one you could get one or several players out for ten minutes, which is a huge advantage on a match.

I think this blue card idea is good, but the problem that FIFA should also focus on resolving and that with this blue card implementation will make it much worse is the issue of time. in football there are 90 minutes. but as time does not stop during the game when a player is injured, the referee decides to add more time, the problem with this is that on many occasions I have seen some teams winning the game, but when they reach 90 minutes the referee gives another 7 or 9 extra minutes the opponent scores a goal and in certain cases the opponent even scores 2 goals in this period of 90 minutes to 97 minutes, causing the result of the entire game to be changed by just 7 minutes and when I look at how long the game was stopped

I note that it was a game with few stops that did not justify the 7 extra minutes given by the referee, while when they implement these blue cards, the game will have more stops and as a consequence the referees will put in more extra time and this will change the result of many games, that's why in my opinion, before thinking about the blue card, FIFA should introduce a rule that when the game stops the time also stops and when the game resumes the time also resumes and there would be no more extra time, things like 90 + 7 minutes . This would help a lot to avoid having more cases of late goals that change the outcome of games.

Indeed the blue card has more potential to discipline players than just a yellow card as they would be placing their team under a temporary disadvantage for being removed from the field for the minutes that their personal time out lasts. It would encourage players to be more careful, however, for something that is already more harsh than a yellow card, what worries me is that referees might actually be more relaxed when it comes to requiring to give yellow cards following this.

I can't say it 100% makes sense to me to have it so 1 blue or 1 blue 1 yellow equal a red card automatically since blue is already more harsh. Maybe it should be two blue and a yellow. Because for example the blue card already includes a time out punishment it shouldn't be held on the same level as a yellow card which is supposed to be a firm warning without immediate consequence.

Blue cards in my opinion is redundant. I personally don’t see any use in having a blue card as I’ve always thought yellow cards work just fine. If a player is unruly on the field and seems to disrespect the referee, having no regards to his authority on the field, a yellow card has always been a good deterrent for others aiming to emulate such behavior.

If a blue card given to a player sends him to the sidelines to cool off and a second blue card gets you a red card and off the field. Asides sending a player to stand by the sidelines for a while, yellow cards did all of that.
The red and yellow cards used are simple and straightforward. They work just fine.

This is beneficial for handling player misconduct and maintaining discipline on the field. This will also serve as a learning opportunity, being temporarily removed could serve as a wake-up call for players to improve their behavior.

But on the other side, this can be tricky and there’s a potential for referees to interpret things differently, leading to inconsistency. And the potential for tactical misuse, teams might strategically sacrifice a player for a 10-minute break, gaining an advantage later.

Betting can lead to new categories and strategies such as predicting the number of blue cards in a match or which player might receive a blue card, interesting dimension?

I don't think this rule is necessary. There are a lot of complications. How does a referee determine which foul is a yellow card or which is a blue card? It will bring so many inconsistencies and would even create room for referees to have too much control over the outcome of the game.
Also, what happens when it happens a goalkeeper is the offender? Would he go out for 10 minutes too then another player assumes his position? I don't think the rule will happen tho. I believe it's just something that would be brought up in the rule-making process and would finally be rejected. I remember there was a time when Arsene Winger wanted to change the offside rule too. He wanted to make it so that the whole body of the player is offside before it can be ruled as offside, but it didn't work.

As for betting, there are already so many options as it is, so adding another would change much. It won't also make us win more. It'll just be like every other option.

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From a betting perspective I think both the casinos and the gamblers will want to take advantage of the initiative in their bet options but just like every other prediction options before now it has always favoured the gambling house as the number of blue cards a gambler will be predicting to take place in a single match will mostly not be happening.

I have read this news also here in Italy and I don't know why but it doesn't seem so interesting.
I have a good friend that was a referee in Serie B Italian and he explained a lot about this job... if they have good charisma and good approach it's clear no one would discuss to much against referee that's why I think these "cards" are completely useless.
Did you remember "Collina"? If you are too young just check this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKMf9T8rWRI
Did you think that he will ever use a "blue card" ?!? No I don't think so

They are just starting to test this on lower leagues as an idea, but there are a lot of clubs between the grassroots level all the way up to the biggest pro leagues in many countries. If it works, then it will become normal to all the younger players who started off with it and hopefully the idea will be that players start respecting the referee to the same level as you see in other sports like Rugby. There is far too much abuse of refs, who don't always get every decision right but are doing a very tough job. Seeing players crowding them or disrespecting them sets a bad precedent to all generations, being able to send them off the pitch and putting their team at a disadvantage because someone cannot control their temper could be a very useful tool to improve the game.

I think that the footballing body or those who are responsible for making the rules and regulations pertaining to the game should let football be. They should abort this talk of  'sin-bin' & blue card for unruly players. They want to destroy this game and take away the fun with too many rules. They brought in VAR. They brought in goal-line technology and now they want to introduce another card? No, it will change the feeling and thrill of the game we grew up watching and enjoying forever. The refs will have a difficult time making decisions on which cards to use or not on a player.  In the context of sports betting, I think it will make staking your bets kind of complicated

I read that they have tested this on lower leagues already but my view on this is not to fix what isn't broken. Game officials already commit mistakes with just a yellow and red so better keep the game as simple as possible. I wonder what's the rule if the goalkeeper had an outburst and directed that to either the referee or linesmen. They can't take him out of the game even for 10 minutes right?

This is what I read about it:

Yes it will be introduced to betting, but I do not see it as anything special than the red and yellow cards because it will still be in a way that odds will not to favour the gamblers unlike the bookies.

This is a very interesting development.
So if a player is unruly, shouts at the referee, is too defiant at referee and assistant decisions or just creates a nuisance, instead of the referee directly giving them a yellow or red. And also some types of more severe fouls that take away advantages of the other team would likely also result in a blue card. This way the players would be removed from the field for 10 minutes instead of the entire match with a direct red card. It is supposed to act as a way to punish not very serious offenses but there's a lot of backlash also.

This is a tactic that is a standard in ice hockey but actually very new to football. In ice hockey if a player acts in a bad manner, they're often sent to a section of the field where they will be isolated for a few minutes and then after some time passes they could join the field again.

According to information that has circulated it's now been said that if a player received two blue cards or a combination of blue and yellow cards, it would still be resulting in a red card.

What do you think about this?
I think from a betting perspective it'd be interesting to see blue cards included in betting options actually.