Topic: For Old and New forum members (Read 870 times)

Not only users in Germany. Anyone who is a quality poster will receive merits according to the help he provides for the community. Let's assume that it's not that easy to reach, but this presents the best examples for all of us to follow.
Here some good examples: TryNinja marlboroza LoyceV theymos and many others...
Personally, i advice everybody to follow those great profiles before even start posting.

Not just newbies, mate. Even high-ranking members who are stucked in their Meritdrops, they should also start reading this kind of guide so that they can set an example for lower ranking members. Most new members was recommended by old members like them, so new members just follow in their footsteps too. That is why, it is difficult to find new members who are constructive.

In this case, why does every guide on improving post quality only aimed to newbies?
The guide writers should change their perspective for a moment that implicitly every member who only has meritdrops can also be considered a newbie.


I often consider myself still a newbie in some respects, especially technical matters in crypto space.

When I was new in this forum I was in a hurry to make money because back then there are a lot of opportunities and they are real projects or coins that are now the top coins in the market, I was spamming to much until I was tagged by a senior member for posting a lot in a short period of time.
I learned my lesson and the one who tagged me give me another chance and from then on I tried to contribute than making redundant posts.

I can proudly say that I do. I mean, let's say I'm more of the compassionate type of guy . I am always willing to give the best answer I could offer for them, there are also instances that I warn them for doing the wrong way instead of reporting to the mods directly, I seldom use sarcastic reactions on obvious/absurd questions as well.

However, every newbie should understand that every single member here are not based in their ideals, they cannot please them all the time. They will encounter people here with various personalities thus they have no choice but to deal with it. The best advice I could give is don't be butthurt, keep patient, don't take things personal — get ready to learn the easy way or the hard way.

Yes,  most newbies don''t have patience and wants everything now 😀
You can't achieve everything right away,  without time and effort invested 
I advice new members to write freely and without constant thinking about merits.
Just be yourself, learn, help others and merits will come.

Yeah, provided they are willing to stick around.

For me, I joined this forum way back in 2017 (because of the bull craze) but didn't realize it was co-founded by Satoshi. Only like later on when I returned after looking it up.

There is always the right to choose. And the newbie who comes to the forum for knowledge is sure to seek answers to their questions from more experienced users. In the future, his rank grows.
But there are newbies who come to the forum after completely different ones, creating a lot of spam, having only one goal, to make money on Bounty companies.
Pay attention also to topics created by newbies to Meta. The issues that interest them have been discussed millions of times. But they stubbornly create new topics with the same questions.
There is a proverb that speaks well of newbies. " A willing heart makes a light foot."

In any case, it is possible that newbies will move up to a higher rank. For example, there are some users in Germany who have more Merits than Activity.

There are already tons of threads and good ones from Senior members of the forum too but the problem is that newbies do not follow the steps mentioned in those guides. They are looking for the short cuts and indeed there is no shortcut to obtain merits.

If you want to get merits you need to have two qualities.

1- You are a quality poster
2- You have patience.

And then there are the ones that post how to get Merits threads

Every dude here is keen to learning new things, innovate it and start growing it. It would have been better for newbies and beginners to study the boards for about 3 months before posting. Every student needs to be attentive for their betterment as well giving out the best in them in the future time. To be patient, innovative, growing are the key factors here.
There are millions of users here which would be impossible for senior ranks to correct each and every newbies everyday, which I think it's can't be done. It's the purpose of beginners to have a good study on the boards before starting to create posts.

I think Newbies are not getting ignored and those who are good quality posters they quickly move up to Jr. Members and Members rank and do not stay at the Newbie rank for a long time. Also there are many giveaway threads which gives newbies merits based on their posts.

Those Newbies who stay on this rank for a long time, are the ones who posts one liners spam posts or most of them are only bounty hunters.

Many thing that cause beginner cant post quality thing on the forum and one of them is the ability of the brain to absorb knowledge. An educated person might be able to gradually improve the quality of their post even if they end up not being expert. But for those who lack learning ability, they will find it difficult to absorb and improve quality even though many suggestion have been given.

You are right, even though beginners have an important part in the forum but if they only post things that are not useful and waste a lot of time other users continuously then you should also know that ignoring them is not prohibited.

Sure there are a lot of newbies that are giving a good post or opinion to a lot of topics here. And most of the time they are not getting ignored for some of the members at least.

We can't really blame high ranks for ignoring some of the members or newbies because there are so many spammer or low-quality posters from newbies, but as long as they have a quality post and stay active I think it would be good to go.

another thing to add for newbies is:

money comes for providing value
don't have money as a goal, understand how you can add value and solve problems on this community (and in all communities you are in life)

for experienced users:

remember:
it costs nothing to encourage a newbie:

(check this:
https://www.zenpencils.com/comic/kevinsmith/ )

People don't listen and they don't learn until they get a lesson rammed up them. Crypto is pure boom and bust. I'll bet plenty of hardened observers lost their shit and started plans for their paper gains in 2017 too.

It doesn't dawn on you that you've nobbled yourself until the chance to avoid it is long gone. Everyone thinks they're a genius when it's popping left, right and centre.

Arrivals now at least have the benefit of seeing what dead times are like. By the time it booms hopefully they'll know that's a time to be disciplined, not ecstatic.

I dont think its good to leave a real job and focus on making money on forum because we dont know how the future of cryptocurrency is and it wont be good if someone chooses to focus on earning income here. It would be better if we think that the income we get on the forum is extra income and whatever we get here will not be a problem if the campaign end or the token bounty is worthless.

True, even though we can suggest the best for them, they have the right to determine their own way of life. Focusing or not on the forum to get income is a choice, I think they know which is the best.

Another thing to be wary of is becoming too dependent on earnings on here once you get those opportunities.

I've seen quite a few people talking about giving up their normal jobs and going 'full time' on here. If you did that in 2017 you would've thought you were set for life. A few short months later the shitcoin/ shittoken /shitfork /airdrop/ scene died on its arse and you'd have no earnings and what you had earnt would be worthless.

I've also seen people say they pay their rent with their sig campaign earnings. Sig campaigns can die after many years of successful operation without any warning at all.

Things change fast in cryptoland. Plan accordingly.

Forums for work are excellent sites but it's foolish to consider making money here first got to gain knowledge about the forum first and learn something you've got to undertake to follow the principles of the forum. If we attempt to copy-paste or spam at any time we may lose our ID Therefore just in case of newcomers stay more active within the forum and check out to understand who is best about the forum.

Helping and guiding people that are new in cryptocurrency, blockchain, and here in BitcoinTalk Forum could help newbies to reach their goals and enhance their knowledge in cryptocurrency, that is why we should treat each other as one. I am also suprised that there are some newbies who are really dedicated to learn more about blockchain and crypto here in this forum, aside from earning cryptocurrency in signature campaigns because there are some newbies who only wants to earn money in joining signature campaigns that they don't aim to learn more.

I think newbies should always be aware of the forum rules so that they could refrain from ban, because if they do against the rules, they might get banned right away and there is no excuse in ignorant of it.

From my view newbies are interested to learn and know things above them from the superior one's the willingness is there for the beginners to learn better,from my perspective in this community the more you move forward the more you acquire knowledge, a correction can be made from the higher once but we have to learn and realized our mistakes without seeking for external helper because knowledge is power.

Sometimes I am surprised reading a lot of good and constructive posts coming from new members of this forum, there are people who already knows about Bitcoin and blockchain before they join this forum, we must treat team as equal but if they deserve merit and you still have more of it, of course you need to share the blessing.

I think newbies should start looking for stickies (and hey admins, please update your stickies as well, because old information has become outdated and many new things as well as rules have been implemented, so please put them all collectively and let the newbies know about those very small, but basic things like plagiarism bans, bans for giveaway participants just like we suffered, bans for unsolicited PMs and threats, etc.)

I never see any platform in the internet where you can find like this bitcointalk community. I feel proud to be a member of this forum. And I see most (about more than 98%)  of the higher  rank member in this forum don't be late to help the newbies. Other platform im the internet, like youtube, fiverr, upwork etc you can not find someone who will protect you if anything wrong happen with you. But here all the members are friendly and always helping each other.

Newbies made a common mistake due to their greed. And other common mistake is thinking this forum as a income source from the beginning. Thus they make couple of accounts and do something against the forum rules. Then got banned. Keep in mind that you will not be banned for invalid reason. So read all the rules first (all the newbie) and always keep constructive youself. Hope nothing bad will happen with you guys.

Most new members are not willing to posting anything good, they are just here for money sake, that is why established members can correct them with hash words like this forum is not for money sake but for sharing knowledge. If a new member is hardworking, it will get how the forum works and rank up.

It is very good for beginners to focus on learning and gain experience before thinking about obtaining profits and prizes. It is the duty of all the old members to help the new and beginners inside the forum and provide all advice and guidance to uncle so that they can work inside the forum in complete comfort and without fear of prohibition

I guess the reason why many newbies getting banned or reported is because bitcointalk forum and bitcoin is introduced to them in a wrong way that is why many newbies only creatd threads and ask if where can I earn money and how can I earn money here in bitcointalk. It is okay to spoonfeed some newbies but it is much helpful if they learn how to do a research.

I'm here also testifying the importance of this forum for helping me reach a member rank today, there's alot to learn here more about bitcoin, scam accusations, legit wallets and more. Here guides newbies from such traps, the only section where users think, write quality posts and questions and answers in a quality ways. All rounds of life like gambling, politics, services to render and much.

Bitcointalk forum rules is not very strict but I'm not surprised that many are still breaking the rules, newbies most especially, they aren't ready to learn but they want to earn, most newbies focus more on earning instead of learning, that breaks my heart, I hope they list to your advice OP, thanks

Most of the people on our forum are helps a lot to all of the new boss coming right now on our forum we give a huge warm welcome to them and enjoy the life we have right here most of the members right now are giving some tips and what are the things they need to read on this forum most of them are already spoon-feeding those newbies but sometimes it is quite bad because some of them are now going to be lazy and don't want to find out the answer instead just asking the question to the forum and make a useless thread.

To all newbies please become more creative and don't ask just a simple topic and hang the statement and don't get any feedback on it we want to have a good content that can help a lot to the people and also can contribute into our forum which is the main goal to improve more and earn more knowledge become different to others this is not bad because by that you can make changes among others.

One of the important things to remember is that you never know who is on the other end of an account, nor their intentions. Sending out PMs to people you don’t know needs to be done with a spice of caution, even more so if it’s related to investments. Normally, it should be wiser to keep the discussion public (i.e. on a thread), where others can oversee and warn you if things get weird (besides getting more diverse input). The prior applies even more if there is ever a PM mentioning that you should invest in such or such, or directly in the person himself.

This is my first time to enter this world and i dont know how it works. I'm desperate to earn crypto currency but i am too shy to ask my friends how. To the point i've decide to send a personal message who I saw here in forum. It is hard to start but I willing to learn and read some advices and posts about this bitcointalk.

It's a good advice to both old and new members. Now addition to that we should all have that mindsets of what is our aim to be here I guess it's not just for the money making alone but for something that will be in use generation to generation.

Not mandatory. No way you'll get banned or suspended just because you refuse to help someone.

But most of the time, it's for Merit fishing.

Are these binding rules or are they just tips? Why do members keep complicating things, it's just a forum for learning and discussing opinions.
Signatures campaigns have made the forum a suitable place to get some profits, but this does not mean that we focus on them.
Do not think about it a lot, ask and try to learn and rise quickly, but the old members are not obligated to do so.

Well, if I have the capacity to help, then I would; like if I  know the answer to what they're asking. But if I don't, then I'd just refer them to someone who I know is more knowledgeable rather than act as if I know everything.



That's what I always tell those newbies that I encounter. Aim to learn first then other things will follow. And as much as possible, read the rules first upon entering. Ask questions when in doubt. And do your best while staying here in the forum.

I'm not against with this because this is one of our goal on our forum which is helping each other especially the newbies but sometimes they are getting too much lazy and asking for the thing that they can easily found out by just exploring our forum which is we are going to avoid giving too much spoon-feeding to them and also we need to maintain the good quality of the outputs and information we are giving and sharing to our forum.



I came from a newbie that asking how to get merits and how to found out information, give some time to your self as an investment to explore the things we have on the forum also try to be unique and creative that even no one on the entire members created this thing, if you become one of these creative people and share on our forum with also benefits with other members the merits will come that is more easier to you to rank up and join to the campaigns.

Very well said, for all the beginners out there, you should be willing to learn something, the purpose of this forum is to have a discussion about cryptocurrency and blockchain, so you should here first to gain knowledge that is what's on your mind, if you are here with the intention of earning money, you will not improve. The earnings here are just our bonus. There are many online jobs, freelance, etc. that you can try to earn money if you want.

Gaining knowledge is really important because that is our asset if you have more knowledge you have an advantage to others, you can use that knowledge to become a better person.

In my long and painfully drawn out life I have learnt that hardly anyone is interested in advice, let alone take it on board and actually act on it. They have to figure it out for themselves. It's quite obvious that shitposting will get you nowhere and more than likely get you nuked. That's plain from the moment you arrive here. If you can't work that out very rapidly then I ain't going to correct your ways. Maybe you'll have better luck with the next account, if you don't get nailed for ban evasion.

If you want to get ahead pay attention from the off. All these people pining for merits have the solution staring them in the face - click on everyone's merit scores and see what posts attract it.

If you are going for an interview, you will first know about the history of the company that are interviewing you. Newbies are not to be corrected, they have to be banned as they have to have read the rules of the forum in order to escape ban. Most of the corrections are in the unofficial rules of Bitcointalk.  Said this because most newbies spam and like plagiarising.

But if they show seriouseness by not spamming or plagiarizing, and they post meaningful contents, then, if they make mistake, they are usually corrected and they should listen.

Add this "how to rank up fast".  

Those are the beginners that's attracted by those contents on YT and Reddit or even any social media platforms, that they can earn here.

New users always want to be spoonfed, they lack the willingness to search for the information they wanted to know. And obviously, they want to rank quickly for a higher bounty rate because if their real intentions were to discuss, research, or other informative topics that might help in their innovations, they won't ask about it.

Newbies who want to continue learning and improve their contribution in this forum will not be ignored and they will get the appropriate value from every contribution they make to this forum. But there are only a few newbies who have thoughts like you. Many other newbies only prioritize Airdrop assignments, do bounty tasks that produce SPAM posts etc.

A beginner must be directed to the actual purpose of this forum. All require a process and the process must be done properly.

It's very naive to bave such thinking  😀
You always have to invest something;  at least your time but for success also knowledge and experience is required.
It's already boring to see so many similar questions in the forum recently, questions like  "how to earn money here " from newbies. 

I agree with you but we can't change the fact that most of us knew bitcointalk.org for earning money. Even until now, many videos on youtube saying that you can earn money here without investing, same with Reddit, multiple contents spreading across the internet that you can earn here. So it's kinda hard to implementing something that will make grow the beginners' willingness to learn and study cryptocurrency.

The merit system is one of the barriers that avoids those beginners' greediness to earn money at the start.

Actually, this will depend on what kind of old members right here. However, I personally believe that most old members will do the same, helping newbies to be good members of this forum. Each of us will really not want that this forum is fulfilled by the newbies that only come here by asking how to earn money free without willing to learn. Therefore, for newbies, they are provided this section board, special for Beginners & Help. The existence of this board actually proves how this forum really welcomes the newbies. Every newbie can find and read the basic information to be good members, how to start, and other important information that they have to do. What they need is by reading and understanding them at first. We are sure that most old members will help them if they really want to learn and be good members here. However, how the members treat the newbies may be different ways. Some people may be able to tel and guide the newbies in finer ways and explain them in detail. But some will probably tell it in a tone that is quite loud. But this does not matter. As long as what is intended is good, then just take the learning.

Exactly true. However, what happen here is that I often found newbies post their thread by asking:
1. Hello, I'm newbie, how to earn money here?
2. Hello, I'm newbie, please help me, what to do here.

Well, I know probably they are not familiar with this forum and they may not know about the section board of beginner. However, even they have been told about this section and what to do, some of them ignore and don't give any replies. This is so silly. Moreover about the newbies that come here and ask about how to cash out or how to earn money free from this forum.
I suggest that if you are a newbie here, what your first goal is never asking about how to cash out or earn money first. try to be a good member right here. Try to learn more about what to do in this forum in order to be a good member and give contribution well. If you are doing it, I'm sure that many old members will help you to rank up and next, you will get your won moment to earn money.

Actually, I said so because this is also my experience, I become shitposters only to come here for earning money at the beginning. I never bothered about various suggestions and rules on how to become a good member. all I did was only for fulfilling posts for a project. And this was wrong. Once we think only for that, then we will become shitposters.

PS: Many old members care of the newbies and many of them help the newbies to be good members. I know it, we can find many great members with their inspiring experiences and track records in this forum.

That is a good hope, but you need to know that all beginners will never be ignored in forum if they really want to learn. Beginners will be warmly welcomed by forum member and they will get the right guide if they want to read it. See some of the topic that have been pinned on the beginners & Help board. Isnt that proof that the forum and its member welcome all beginners to get proportional knowledge ?

There is no problem if the beginner comes to the forum because of money because the forum still provides the right place for them, the bounty board and other. But if they just spend all their time there without engaging in constructive discussion, then rest assured they will continue to be ranked the same in the long run. No one would give them a higher rating if it wasnt for the quality of posts and contribution to forums and user.

No, I report right away. A forum is a discussion board to talk to each other, to meet people and debate. When you see a newbie joining only for the sake of spamming to rank up, participate in bounties, and distribute blowjobs all over the forum with useless topics I'm not very inclined to do anything

They all waste my time reading thousands of shit comments, destroy interesting discussions and so on.
So I snitch  

and I don't report immediately, I wait a few days to waste their time

There will always come the right time when you really want to change your position here in this community. all you need to do is to learn everything from basic to enlighten everything you need to know. At some point when you already learn something, you will still find something that worth sharing to benefit the others with the new knowledge you discovered and that's what I'm doing for the last 2+ years of my journey here. I always find useful information to share for everyone. I'm not rushing to get to the top as I said: "Everything has its timing, there is a time for everything".

Well,  it's normal and expected of course 😀
We all need money and it's our main goal in life.
When people first time hear about bitcoin the most important part for the most people is possibility to earn money and achieve financial freedom.
Usually people don't care much about other aspects of bitcoin.
Problem is that new members come here with to high desires and without clear understanding about btc forum.
If you wants to earn here please educate yourself first; learn from more experience members.
In such way you will learn faster and receive more benefits from this forum.

Most Newbies are here only to earn money through bounties. There have been few post in diffrent threads by them asking other members how they can ear money from the forum.

They forget they first need to learn and understand the forum rules, before they can earn here. These are those individuals who either get banned or are not able to earn from here.

Then they go on to  other forums and talk negative about Bitcointalk. If they are able to earn they lose it by investing in spammy projects.

Therefore learn and understand before you thing about earning.

That is why I always drop here to support his page and newbies who have concern on how the forum works and the many issues on the community and the, we also recommend newbies to start here and on meta before roaming a lot, I understand they also want to learn how to make money or learn how to invest correctly, but things like this do not happen in an instant.

Its good you understand the importance of learning here more than just airdrop and bounty. Soon you could rank up to higher position but its always much better to go on that situation where you already done on the learning process. Not so hard to cope with different rules here as long as you read and understand all of it.

You can see that most high rank members here will always answer and helo newbies with different question even its so simple. But if the question is way much simple, help yourself cause using search engine is not that hard to pull off. Only post those thing you are havjng hard time to understand.

Agree on this part, I think some or most of the newbies are first heard Bitcointalk forum just for earning some bitcoins or earn money.
This should not be. This is also one of the reasons why they will leave the Bitcointalk forum for being banned or left the forum because they can't earn money.
Learning on this forum is very the best, I can tell it, I started with nothing but this forum help me a lot about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

To All Old Members on BTT

Members please always try as much as possible to help for fellow newbies, correct them so they won't get ban, give them hopes so they can have some courage left in them, I was once a shit poster until few high ranking members makes me change my ways, don't ignore newbies

To All Newbies

Newbies be more willing to learn so that you will grow stronger, don't make money making your first path on here, learn and keep learning then money will find its way to you, without enough knowledge and respect for high ranking members you will probably repeat the same mistakes they did when they are still newbies, high ranking members can safe your as from stupid mistakes