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uki
legendary
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cryptojunk bag holder
December 28, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
#60
I actually won a good amount on 2 poker sites, both of them stopped working now but it was player's money that I won and not exactly casino's. I haven't had the same luck on dice sites, it's like win one day and lose the very next.
yep, either you have the money for playing that you can afford losing all or you don't play.
hero member
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December 27, 2014, 07:05:26 AM
#59
I actually won a good amount on 2 poker sites, both of them stopped working now but it was player's money that I won and not exactly casino's. I haven't had the same luck on dice sites, it's like win one day and lose the very next.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
December 27, 2014, 04:50:32 AM
#58
If you keep on playing over and over, you will eventually hit some bad streaks and lose your bitcoin. But if you just play for a short period of time and stop playing ever after, it is not hard to get a small profit from house.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
Crypto Swap Exchange
December 26, 2014, 10:26:22 PM
#57
You can get permanent profit if you are lucky and know how to stop. A lot of people profited from gambling but lost it shortly afterwards due to greed. Control is essential if you do not want to lose your profits after a lucky run.
sr. member
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Ace of ♠♠♠♠
December 26, 2014, 10:21:46 PM
#56
Gamble for entertainment and not for profit.
sr. member
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December 26, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
#55
ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.

I think hufflepuff is not real, it's just a show of the site owner to attract more people like you and me Cheesy
uki
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000
cryptojunk bag holder
December 26, 2014, 05:45:17 PM
#54
In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

What do you mean by "hot table"? The rest of what you said makes sense, but "hot table" sounds dangerously close to superstitious nonsense. Smiley

It's possible for a lucky player to win at any kind of casino game if they're lucky enough and stop playing soon enough.

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

I've been betting on dice sites for a few years and am up overall.

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx

that pretty much sums it all. not need to add anything, just look again at these stats before playing. Unless you are running this business, it is quite clear whether to play or not. I wonder, what was the motivation of these 100+ guys who lost xxx or more BTC.
sr. member
Activity: 546
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December 26, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
#53
i am profitable in gamble Smiley)

This is because you have played as many times as you wrote posts here Wink

That's true. Good players have not time to write on forum. Cheesy
newbie
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December 26, 2014, 04:59:42 PM
#52
i am profitable in gamble Smiley)

This is because you have played as many times as you wrote posts here Wink
sr. member
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Merit: 250
December 26, 2014, 04:27:51 PM
#51
i am profitable in gamble Smiley)
yeah i get profit in gambling too
especially from dice with free faucet and giveaway Cheesy
full member
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Merit: 100
December 26, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
#50
I just use it to get some quick coin if I need a little extra for a purchase.
newbie
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December 26, 2014, 11:04:09 AM
#49
i am profitable in gamble Smiley)
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
In holiday we trust
December 26, 2014, 10:42:23 AM
#48
Well as any gambler knows whatever you win you probably end up losing twice or three times that amount. My experience of gambling is not to start then you don't get hooked.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 259
December 26, 2014, 06:09:15 AM
#47
I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx


Thank you, it's interesting statistic.
So, Loosers = approx. 1.5*Winners. I thought the multiplier is much bigger. 
full member
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Web dev for hire
December 26, 2014, 05:12:10 AM
#46
Not by gambling, but I do believe investing in bitcoin casino bankrolls can be profitable. What happened in the past year is a huge bummer, but I am confident that new, well managed sites will be able to fill the void created after the scammers left the market. There is money to be made for both site owners and investors, we only need to work on creating trust.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1003
December 26, 2014, 05:07:35 AM
#45
Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

well, its gambling, u cant profit non stop  Grin
legendary
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
December 25, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
#44
Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option Grin


skills - but what with skills when you play with machine..?  Roll Eyes

You need to have fast fingers if you want to win on slot machines.
Skill game poker where you depend on your luck Wink
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
December 25, 2014, 08:22:55 PM
#43
Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option Grin


skills - but what with skills when you play with machine..?  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 251
December 25, 2014, 06:18:26 PM
#42
Important game for luck is that 99% of money is lost like dice
But you can get enough BTC in the skills base game like sports betting,poker,binary option Grin

full member
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December 25, 2014, 06:03:22 PM
#41
I don't think anyone can make a permanent profit off of gambling unless the website includes a free faucet. Gambling sites are made so that they would earn money.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
December 25, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
#40
Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

This is a gambling man! Casino always wins!  Cool
hero member
Activity: 910
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December 25, 2014, 03:56:45 PM
#39
I would recommend the site luckyb.it I think it would fit you

Its a good site, no dice included. Its for individuals who would like to get off the dice for a bit and try something new.
Luckyb.it is certainly an innovative game, something different from dice. But I just feel it gives the casino more edge than what dice does.
You certainly win back some amount, but losing over 1% is more probable.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1002
December 25, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
#38
I am trying to play, but not to focus on permanent income. It's about luck when I play in casino. When I bet on sports it's some knowleadge as well as I am interested in some sports. This is what I like, but not for permament income  Grin
full member
Activity: 154
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November 28, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
#37
when i gamble i win some lose some..your never truelly up if you keep gambling
hero member
Activity: 602
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November 28, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
#36
Ask that guy who spent like -800 btc loss on primedice. I think his sn was AKcoinminer or something like that.

After seeing that guy lose I dont know what to say.

he was actually in positive before he crashed, if im not mistake he was more then 500btc in positive.

well thats what greed leads too. in a long run you can never outrun any casinos
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
November 28, 2014, 11:21:10 PM
#35
Ask that guy who spent like -800 btc loss on primedice. I think his sn was AKcoinminer or something like that.

After seeing that guy lose I dont know what to say.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
November 28, 2014, 08:44:55 PM
#34
I would recommend the site luckyb.it I think it would fit you

Its a good site, no dice included. Its for individuals who would like to get off the dice for a bit and try something new.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
November 28, 2014, 07:54:17 PM
#33
Sports is the only thing that you can beat if they use multiple decks and early shuffles in black jack.

You can win at games like poker too, where you're competing against other players and the house just takes a rake of the pot - so long as you're good enough compared to the people you're playing against of course.

Sites like gambit.com can be profitable - they have a range of skill-based player-vs-player games with low rakes.
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www.secondstrade.com - 190% return Binary option
November 28, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
#32
Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

Well, I have gambled a lot . I can't say that I make a permanent profit, but I have been profitable over a long time. And that for me is good, as I get the fun of gambling without having to lose any amount of moneyt.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
November 28, 2014, 05:35:54 PM
#31
Sports is the only thing that you can beat if they use multiple decks and early shuffles in black jack.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
November 28, 2014, 05:18:54 PM
#30
Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.

Well obviously exploiting the bugs is the whole different area, i was talking about "legit" strategies that usually just involve adjusting the betsize or another things, sometimes even trying to exploit the "dice memory" (gambler's fallacy), etc

Fair enough, but the guy you were replying to was talking about the guy who found an exploit on PD. He made over 100 max bets in a row at 49.5% and won them all...
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
#29
Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.

Well obviously exploiting the bugs is the whole different area, i was talking about "legit" strategies that usually just involve adjusting the betsize or another things, sometimes even trying to exploit the "dice memory" (gambler's fallacy), etc
legendary
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November 28, 2014, 03:09:56 PM
#28


What about mining hardware that is never obsolete and always profitable; do you believe in that?

Me neither. So why do you advertise it?
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036
November 28, 2014, 03:04:59 PM
#27
Usually the house wins, but in my experience I have to say that in some cases you could have a better chance to win, like in sports betting ( using surebets strategies for example ).

I don't think there are such things as sure bets to be honest  Cool
sr. member
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i ♥ coinichiwa
November 28, 2014, 02:45:30 PM
#26
I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

wow. i'm one of 717
legendary
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Merit: 1333
November 28, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
#25
Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.

You would be surprised.

Last night somebody found a way of winning at moneypot, by exploiting a small bug he found. He was able to cash out just before the game crashed, quite reliably. So don't be too sure that winning players are necessarily just lucky or using martingale sequences.
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 11:32:36 AM
#24
Usually the house wins, but in my experience I have to say that in some cases you could have a better chance to win, like in sports betting ( using surebets strategies for example ).
hero member
Activity: 812
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November 28, 2014, 08:35:14 AM
#23
Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?

Not sure that another variation is martingale can qualify as "cracking PD". Its probably the same old "boy i sure do hope 15~ losses in a row will never come" crap.
hero member
Activity: 854
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November 28, 2014, 08:33:06 AM
#22
actually no,I win,but after that i finish losing my bitcoins
member
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November 28, 2014, 08:21:37 AM
#21
Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.

Ive read that guy who was a math wiz (self proclaimed) that he cracked PD and is earning big there. LOL or Cool?
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
November 28, 2014, 08:20:29 AM
#20
Depends on the game and how good you are. Just saying "house always wins" is kinda retarded.
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 08:13:19 AM
#19
7 people must be very happy!

maybe 1 of 7 was a huffle puff  Shocked  Cool

House Edge you must to beat.
Beside that, you've just very very lucky
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 250
November 28, 2014, 07:55:14 AM
#18
ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.
he was just lucky too...
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 07:16:52 AM
#17
I think the most winners will loose their profit one day. I made a same experience, I won a huge amount of Bitcoins (in 2012) and lost it almost a few hours later. In my opinion you can't pay your way with gamble.
member
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November 28, 2014, 07:10:17 AM
#16
I get regular btc from affiliate program in Win88 Casino. Which is great.
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
November 28, 2014, 07:05:52 AM
#15
7 people must be very happy!
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 12:44:47 AM
#14
Man those stats are shocking
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
November 27, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
#13
In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

What do you mean by "hot table"? The rest of what you said makes sense, but "hot table" sounds dangerously close to superstitious nonsense. Smiley

It's possible for a lucky player to win at any kind of casino game if they're lucky enough and stop playing soon enough.

Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?

I've been betting on dice sites for a few years and am up overall.

I've been asked before how many players won on Just-Dice and how many lost, so looked it up:

944494 accounts

915229 with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
#12
The house has an edge so you'll always lose in a long term.

House edge is the key.

Even gamblers with extensive game knowledge will lose long term. This doesn't include the majority of other donks that don't know game strategy and rules and throw their money at the casino.

A very small percentage make money. Otherwise, there would be no casinos.
newbie
Activity: 29
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November 27, 2014, 09:40:44 PM
#11
The house has an edge so you'll always lose in a long term.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
November 27, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
#10
I got once from 0.1 btc to 3.1 btc in like... 2-3 hours, and then lost it (the next day) within 30minutes

Its all luck my friend.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
November 27, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
#9
Of course not.  As long as math is true you can't beat the house if you keep playing.  Only successful way to do it is exploit variance, get up and stop.  So no way to be a consistent winner.  Unless the site offers an invest option.

Good Luck!
newbie
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November 27, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
#8
it,s gambling bro. 80%luck and 20%strategi.
but everyone 80% noluck  Cry

and hufflepuff that just advertising   Shocked
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 27, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
#7
House always wins, but there's lots of unskilled poker pokers, so poker pros can clean up on donks.

Lines are tough to beat, the best minds set the lines.

All slots and video games are sucker plays.

In real dice games, you have guys that can move money around and kill the house once in a round on a hot table.

BJ card counters have a shot.

The rest is just giving money to the house.

Casino host 30+ years
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 500
November 27, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
#6
well in my experience the best strategy is don't start. I won some nic amount of bits but if I add all my looses I think I'm on zero

And you're lucky to be on zero, only.. Tongue

I agree with you, best strategy is the non playing one. On the medium-long term run only the house gains.

That's the principle on which is funded Gambling.
hero member
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November 27, 2014, 06:26:21 PM
#5
hero member
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November 27, 2014, 06:20:46 PM
#4
well in my experience the best strategy is don't start. I won some nic amount of bits but if I add all my looses I think I'm on zero
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 509
November 27, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
#3
The time it takes for me to put in the research to keep making a profit sports betting takes the fun out of it for me. So I stopped. I remember I tried selling my picks on here. I made more money from betting than selling the picks. Wasn't worth my time. Sad
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
November 27, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
#2
ask hufflepuff, he did such great profit and ran with it.
hero member
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November 27, 2014, 05:56:18 PM
#1
Anyone of you (except gambling sites owners) is able to make permanent profit on gambling? Or It's just lucky shots when you won couple of btc and the loose it in next week?
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