Topic: Foreigners being airlifted by countries but government is just ying to get money (Read 346 times)

Here in our country, the budget for this pandemic is not properly allocated so that the people who are in needs are suffering so much. The government here is not responsible and we all know that all of us aren't ready and prepared for this pandemic to exist. There are budget for this pandemic but they don't properly distributed it to the community.

Still there are still politicians who are not responsible enough and they only think of themselves, all they want to do is to corrupt and corrupt the money of the people. They don't serve the country properly and they only think about the wealth that they get.

During this GCQ in our country, they said that the government will no longer give financial support to its people because people are now able to go to work and earn salary. But for me, that's not right, there's still a budget for the people and for the government to shoulder some expenses and support every family.

Now, it is a bit more fixed. Some countries decided that the private airlines are capable of working again, the government owned ones were already working but pricing was terrible which is the whole topic is about, but when private ones started to fly it became a bit cheaper, because of the competition it will get lower and lower eventually.

Obviously still most nations are following the 14 day lockdown for everyone who came out of the country, but at least more people are going back and forth now thanks to private ones. Plus there was limit on how many people could come in, now that is increased as well so more people could come in too. I think this problem will be gone in few months, by September it will be regular flights on regular prices like always.

Indeed the fact that the government is more concerned with themselves than the interests of its people. So I'm not surprised
the incident that you told me in the opening post really happened. To improve the country's economy, the government must
sacrifice some of its people. One of them is by raising the cost of flights to return to their respective countries, or the government
will raising taxes is a popular way for many countries to improve their economy situation. Though the policy is making people
suffer more, the government should focus on the welfare of its people.

We all know that we are all in crisis. Industries are down and nowhere to find an alternative support for our finances unless you are under a paid work at home set up.

I think we should also see that those people trying to do their jobs are at risk, vulnerable in which we all know that not all people wanted to risk their health but needs that source of income.

But as for the government, they should somehow have financial assistance. Somehow people should not be the one carrying all the burden that tha pandemic had caused.
We all have limited resources.

Is not right. However, some people in this forum might say so, because muh virus became the excuse for everything bad happening, when we all know the only virus here is called "the government", and its totalitarian, abusive measures against the population.

Worse, then, is the hypocrisy of "saving lives". Just imagine how many people lost their jobs, and how many families were destroyed, in the name of "saving lives".

It is better you pay the price they are imposing. But then, after you arrive home, do yourself a favor and put half of your savings into crypto.

It is not really about governments but more like airlines as well, airlines haven't made any money at all and they are trying to make as much money as they can if they are going to start working again. In my country the bus business started back up again, now you can go to different cities if you want to, but the bus will be 50% empty because people are allowed to sit in one side where the other side will be empty, so instead of double lined, it will be all single.

So, a bus that normally caries 40 people will have 20 people instead. What did the bus companies do? Spiked the price up twice so that passengers would cover the difference instead. Now government could have helped somehow, but it is not really in their job description, they do not have to do anything at all about this.

$350 was a good deal! I have heard of many multiples of that. The government isn't making any real money off that and they are allocating valuable organizational resources towards it. While it does seem to be a governmental obligation to relocate those who are stranded abroad, I have seen a number of cases where governmental warning were ignored until it was too late and then some irresponsible travelers started with the "woe is me! mayday!" campaigns on social media. Then governments had to spend ludicrous amounts of money to collect these people from their backpacking holidays.

I personally was abroad when the outbreak started, watched how things were going down on the media, made a judgement call and took a timely flight home. I don't see anyone else couldn't have done the same thing.

We don't know what's the deal coming from the government handling this case but due to this pandemic virus help should start from the government itself, the people who mostly relied with how the government will assist them wherever they are and whoever they are. It's an obligation that should be taking care of, not just because they are leading but the compassion should be considered as human.

Our government is also doing the same thing. As much as possible, they would really try to extend help to those citizens living in our country even if they are foreigners or not. This pandemic has  affected all the citizens so it's the government's turn to take care of those citizens particularly those who are mostly affected either foreigners or not.

Same here, it was reported that our government won't shoulder the expenses of workers wanting to go home because there's no more job for them in abroad. But our government received a lot of backlash from the media and the workers themselves. So the President was very quick to take actions, reverse the decision and allocated money to cover the cost. And not only that, they will be given one time cash assistance to support them and their families once they got home. At least our government did the right thing here.

Believe me when I say this, 750 bucks is basically nothing in governments eyes, it is literally zero for them. They are just trying to make sure they are not losing money on this, but that's it, nothing major. USA has over 20 trillion dollars debt, Germany has above 40 billion in profits, Italy is breaking historical records on losses (obviously) in billions. You think any government would care about the difference between 350 bucks and 750 bucks.

This is purely "if you wanna go back home, you gotta pay this so you are not a cost to us" price, that's it, they are not really willing to help you, they do not care if you comeback or not, but if you reeeeeaallly want to, you gotta pay the prize so you do not cost them anything at all, why would they lose money on something they don't even want.

That cannot be said about every government, some of the governments are listening to the business owners and loosing up the restrictions, not sure about the rest of the countries in the third world as mentioned by some users in this thread, but our government allowed to come back and expense is taken care by the government but not sure about people who was to fly from long distance.

@OP Sad to hear the plight in your country, during crisis if the government is not taking care of you then why we are paying the taxes.

That is very cruel dude here in my country we are fetching our abroad workers using commercial buses and military planes just to get them back home safety. It seems like you do have a very bad governance in your country $350 is a lot! and the fact that you are a foreign student in that country they should have prioritize you to get back. I don't know what the payment for trip is for, since you did not clarify or breakdown the expenses on that one but man during these time of pandemic they should have carry all their citizen no matter what.

It is in situations like these that you will understand the government does not really care about the people, they just do whatever they feel is right and not what's going to benefit the people rightly.

I am hoping that at this time it's going to be a different case, they should really learn to consider and do things in a way that the poor masses will be able to cope with it. And it's not just about the government , we the people should as well do things in our own little ways to help others, we all need that help right now, much more in this difficult situation.

The problem here is the notion of government is helpless, have you heard about the PM CARES Fund and they raised more than 1000 crores INR and then they have another fund collection Prime Minister's National Relief Fund and that has similar amounts or larger amounts. What they do with these huge amount of funds is not clear, they are taking money from poor labor jobless people in the name of evacuation and what are these charity funds collected  . You are aware how many people walked 100 to 200 km just to reach home and some were not even lucky as they lost their life during these mass migration from the poor.

Have you seen the news that the RBI has written off bad loans aka Non-performing assets of 66000 crore mainly from businessman and other wealthy people. How much money was needed to give all the poor people some funds during a situation like this rather than writing off loans of the wealthy .

You clearly mentioned about the flight charges they are forcing them to pay to reach home, hope you heard about the issue that posed by Qatar where the Indian government said the repatriation flight are rescue missions which means they wont collect money while they were charging exorbitant charges and Navy Ships are collecting tickets and carrying people in the name of repatriation .

Lack of clarity on what they will be using with these billions of amount collected in the name of charity should be public.

Still many states are not allowing home delivery of liquor and i have no idea why they want to restrict which is bullshit.

No one experienced this in their life time and it is highly unlikely anyone would forget these weird situations.


If a government consider these are pennies then why don't they write off all these charges and help the citizens rather than charging exorbitant rates when there is no job and there is no clarity when they will get the opportunity to work again.

For me this is Fine since government not do this as mandatory and only the "Can afford" is asked to fly with them right?

Yeah lets say the fare is more than double from normal but think of it?the Plane will not take same volume of passenger instead they will follow the protocol that only half can be taken because of social distancing(this is based in my country when the transport system decided to cut in 50% )

and instead of looking in the bad side mate,why not look at the brighter?and also remember that the Fair is not from the students pocket instead from their Parents for sure so this is Fair enough.

and if you wanted to pay the normal fare then wait until the lockdown ends.

 they only treat foreign nationals, because they have no obligation to compromise with people who are not of the same ethnicity as them. This is quite normal for people with many immigrants. we should get used to it and that is also the way they have money to help people of their own ethnicity.

I'm sorry to hear about your problem @OP. About your situation, if you don't have a job there, can you ask your family to give you money? At least for your 1x trip going back home. It is indeed a difficult time, and this situation may not be over soon.

The amount of money collected will not help the government do anything since it's too minuscule. So I doubt it is their strategy to extort money. Anyway, you can go to the embassy and ask for help, and keep the "government is evil" thing for yourself and try to cooperate at the moment because it won't help you there.

Same thing is happening in my country as well. recently India started air-lifting their citizens from Middle East and the citizens have paid double than the normal price. More over these citizens are forced to pay for their 14 days isolation is various hotels at their home state. That's definitely not right but government is also helpless at this moment. In my country, government has closed down all liquor and tobacco shops when the lock down started almost 50 days ago and every single state is now facing a huge revenue shortfall. Also normal service class people and spending very cautiously so they are not generating a good amount of tax revenue as well.

It's a very uncommon time my friend. I am sure, our generation will remember 2020 for the rest of their life!

There is risk in travelling right now and since all the business is close right now even those businesses being run by the government, you mentioned that these are special planes, this could be the reason why they are charging more because they are making an exception because of the situation, an exception has added values, although on first glance it seems the government is trying to make a profit.

^ Obviously it is true for it is the government's way to collect funds that they can use on this ongoing crisis. In my opinion, I can't blame them because even the governments are about to lose their funds since we are still on lockdown and they keep on supporting their citizen. I suggest you may try reaching your embassy for there are governments who give a free or discounted fare for a lift to their citizens and probably your country is one of them.

The government and many people affirm that the majority of students who can study abroad are from economically well-off, the rest may be on the path to achievement scholarships. The burden supported by the government is now quite heavy, many government officials have surrendered, even resigned. It would not hurt for each individual to take money out of their pockets. Or if the condition of students and their families is really poor then a fundraising program can be opened, there is no need to be ashamed to show that we are poor if we are indeed poor and need help.

When the pandemic in Wuhan was just begun the Indonesian government immediately evacuated 246 Indonesian citizens from Wuhan and was isolated on 1 island, as well as 68 crew members of the diamond princess were all free of charges.

We take another example of a Chinese citizen who lives in Indonesia to work. After Wuhan is green, Indonesia is red, but Chinese airlines continue to open transportation routes from Southeast Asia to China and vice versa by using Cambodia as a transit hub but people arriving in China must follow the packaging procedure. The airline has prepared packages ranging from flights, hotel accommodation to quarantine, and pickup transportation when passengers arrive at Zhengzhou airport. And it costs around USD 3700 which is usually only USD 900 at its own expense instead of being funded by the government.

If you were in the shoes of the government and you are in crisis, and you are a foreigner, not a citizen of that country, an outsider. Would you be helping that person? Yes, you would benefit but in exchange for something, more money. I think that's the case for everyone not living in their citizenship. It's unfortunate, we know, but it's the reality that we are in now.

Businesses are there to make money, there is no question about it. Flights especially chartered to fetch stranded citizens across the world cannot be offered free from the airline companies. But the least that the government should do is to subsidize the expenses of their very own people whose lives are severely hampered by this pandemic. And, are you serious? Instead of easing their burden, you are increasing it more if even the cost of the required swab test is passed on to the stranded people themselves.

Printing money is exclusive to the government. The people cannot print money on their own. That is why the government should equitably spend it to benefit the people whose welfare they've sworn to serve.

I don't know about the flight's departure or destination, but they're certainly not making about with this.
You cannot compare the price of a regular flight with a specially ordered one.
There aren't many planes flying around these days, and none is full. We won't see cheap flights anytime soon.

Actually, his situation is not new as I have seen several articles before that those passengers who wished to be airlifted really need to pay, and it is really expensive. There are even some vlogs on YT discussing this. At first, I thought it is really free provided by the government, but reading some of the articles, it is an eye-opening to what reality is.

Talking about on government side, you should at least consider on taking up the risk on sending out those students from their respective country amidst of pandemic situation.
I dont see anything wrong if they do charge up 2x of fare yet we know on what are the current situations we've been facing and also its up to the students if they would
take the deal or would just simply stay.Its a matter of choice though and also even here on my place, transport fare been raised up 3x but there are still people who do take such
increase because they dont have any choice.

Since we have a pandemic, everyone is having a hard time earning money. You are right with that, and even the governments are having a hard time; hence the money injection thing to the economy and printing money out of thin air.

If you were in a foreign country and just a "visitor." In this case, you're a student. You being there makes you an additional expense, hence they have to make money back. Think about it, nothing is normal. anymore, and currently, everyone has a difficult situation. There's no normal fare anymore, and you would just accept that. Additionally, if you are a foreigner (abroad), you're not one of their citizens. It's a ripoff, but you have to endure it and pay it or else be stuck and pay more just by living and staying there.

Anyways, congratulations on being able to travel and study but unfortunate during this time. Please stay safe.

The last thing anyone would want to happen to them should something like a pandemic like this happen is to be left alone in a country with little to no money to work with. You don't have someone to turn to if you needed help, and your country's embassy would be your last resort to get you out of the country you're stuck in. Knowing that fuel literally has taken a dump since the demand diminished significantly, countries should be somewhat considerate in taking their citizens home. They are literally taking advantage of this hard times in order to profit, but for desperate people who just wants to go home, they'd take the bait and pay in order to just be done with it.

Governments are here for rich people, so if you don't have any money they won't care about you! that's the better truth of all governments.

Same as students, workers are also asked to pay money on their own to get lifted to their own country but they are collecting taxes for each and every activity by every citizen.

None of the businesses are reopening so I guess this is their way to make money. Aren't student going to undergo swab testing for Covid and all before they fly? Because this will also cost and maybe the reason for it to reach up to $750.

All money are imaginary though and at this time of crisis, printing more money I think is just.

Well , I am not going in the first place because apparently I saw a video of how and where they are keeping the kids for the quarantine.

It is not just my country , it is every single country out there .

Just last night my friend Traveled from Europe to Maldives and they paid everything but they are getting very less food and are not even allowed to ask for more.

Plus the population density in Maldives is very low , if they are doing this there I don't even know what will be the situation in my country.

Plus I do think we need to tell government somehow that whatever they are doing is not going to help them for the long run . They are making people more and more cornered .

I don't think it's possible to sue a government for extortion... Which country are you going from and to?

If you have the money and the current country is safe it might be worth staying there especially if they're doing better economically and you can speak local languages there...

Hey

So apparently I had the chance to travel and study and due to Quarantine students cannot go home .
Government is broke and they are trying their best to get money from somewhere.
Economic situation is very bad in every country and every single person is suffering.
Government have agreed to send special planes to lift students off from where they were studying for the time being, but unfortunately they are asking them to pay 750$ for one side , when the normal fare is approximately 350$ .
Is this right ? Government is actually accumulating money from students and other people stranded abroad , charging them 2 X , when they should understand this is a time of need and they have to be helping their citizens.
Is it right to try and improve your economic situation by forcing some half of the society?

See people would have to certainly go ofcourse , their families are there , but government instead of understanding is actually making it worse for them .

I think government should focus for a while more on its citizens rather than look for forced financial help from them , this is not how you go about taking care of the economic health of your country.